Deformable light with anti-seepage. (with schematic)

[@Mountain-Man-3000]

Finally a way to take care of all the seepage around my lamps!

[@RK-kn1ud]

I'm enjoying all the color-coding you've been doing...makes it easier to visualize.

[@gregorythomas333]

A friend recently purchased some of these...I will send him your tip about snipping the resistor to increase longevity of them.

[@lostjohnny9000]

I've got a couple of these. Nice reversible hinge design but also thin hot plastic. Think I'll try and Dubai it.

[@tazz1669]

Thanks for your expertise and insights into its expected lifespan of lack of. Great to hear the potential back to make it last longer

[@pulsar7632]

My guy is killing it with the hearted comments

[@bigclivedotcom]

Maximum hearts.

[@chrisanderson4325]

I saw your comment on PhotonicInduction! I'm so excited he's back!

[@OnlySlightyRadioactive]

Omg really? Wow that takes me back a bit! Cheers for the pointer.

[@forbiddenera]

Oddly enough I only discovered him like a day before he came back

[@dudebroham4083]

My wife picked up a couple of these on Amazon for just a few dollars. I thought the same thing that you are saying.I ventilated them with my soldering iron. I haven't had a lick of trouble out of them and I will probably order more for my woodshop.

[@LiLi-or2gm]

I had one of these. It lasted less than two months :( Didn't throw it away though- tossed it in the "maybe later" box.

[@SharkoonBln]

Two months? Count yourself lucky :)

[@RFC-3514]

I suspect "anti-seepage" was just a dodgy translation of "spill resistant" or something along those lines (i.e., "vaguely sealed design").

[@ShinyPeeko]

Anti-seepage meaning sealing or maybe 'ceiling'

[@straightpipediesel]

I think it's "moisture resistant". It's an issue in the hot humid parts of China like Shenzhen, moisture will seep in and mold will form. I've actually seen a little of that in my bathroom LEDs.

[@johnjoyce]

No. They just write crap on packaging. They don’t much care.

[@baucelabs1159]

i agree with your conclusion, but just in case you're curious, i've had two of these exact LED lamps and they're still kicking after about a year and a half now... not on 24/7, but i leave them on by accident in the garage all too often.. so they do run a few days straight now and then

[@GordieGii]

I think the "anti-seepage" is those two 510K resistors that keep it from flickering if there's a little current getting through (or around) the switch.

[@wimwiddershins]

The fold out panels look suspiciously like they should be made from die cast aluminium. Maybe this is an eBay-dump version of something more durable?

[@SeanBZA]

Probably took the aluminium casting mould set and polished it, then used plastic as it is cheaper. Yes drop the power rating and you will improve life, and very likely with half the power there will still be more than 70% of the light emitted.

[@martin09091989]

Die casting and plastic injection molding is not compatible at all! I even doubt that they could have reused the CAD design.

[@RFC-3514]

@@martin09091989 - The main part of the CAD design is just a negative of the part they're trying to build, so that would be basically the same. But they would have to modify the parts that deal with the actual injection, of course.

[@SuperAWaC]

@@martin09091989 incorrect

[@martin09091989]

@Monochromatik-Vision Yea just plug and play, like putting the brakerotor from a car on your bike, no problem. You need way better and lokal precise cooling on plastic injection molding, the parts have to have other wall thicknesses in surten places to account for the different behavior while shrinking. You need more ejection pins most of the time, and the draft angles can't be as steep on plastic.... The list goes on. Maby there are parts that could be made with both methods, and molds that can be modified relatively easy, but I generell, other then the outer shell model the parts have to be specifically designed for the intended process. Also, why is it that most company's out ther don't do both processes if it is that easy? 🤔

[@offdagrid877]

Nice one Clive. Photonicinduction is back

[@ThorAlexandre]

I have a couple of similar 45w lights, one in the basement workshop and one in the garage. They are great for getting more light without having to put up more lamps, and the horrible cold white is not too much of a problem in a workshop. They do get a little hot, but not enough to burn my fingers and much less than i expected. Had them for well over a year, probably a couple hundred hours on each and no issues so far.

[@martinbalmforth2665]

A Clive and Photon vid uploaded today, joy!

[@SigEpBlue]

Mmm, deformable _and_ anti-seepage? I'm sold! 🤪 That "chewy" plastic has been ridiculously flammable, in my past experience. Would be nice to see if it holds a flame.

[@johnmorgan1629]

I think the 8-Bit Guy, used a similar style light in parts of his new studio/workshop, but some with decent output and balance for video.

[@stevetobias4890]

I have a couple of these, was going to do a teardown but you saved me the trouble. Thank you, great video.

[@frankowalker4662]

Nice design, it's a shame the LED's are being over driven with little heat sink.

[@WillFuI]

Yea I know it sucks just how many companies do that.

[@TechGorilla1987]

@0:57 "Fer-rrrrrrr-ocious" My favorite bearism to date.

[@Nono-hk3is]

Thank you, Clive

[@tikaanipippin]

"Ground Control to Major Spudger. Crack this case, it's quite a bugger..."

[@rickseiden1]

"It's a huge bulky thing, as I may have mentioned before." "That's what she said."

[@f.f.s.d.o.a.7294]

Mine is seeping, should I see a doctor?

[@roseelectronics4582]

The globally acclaimed fan light. Great!

[@DigitalIP]

Love these kinds of lights, definitely a must have for Attics

[@tactileslut]

First thought: house fire.

[@DigitalIP]

@@tactileslut lol, for straight up chinese versions MAYBE (doubtful), but these lights in general are soooo much better than a normal single LED light.. Even walmart sells a full metal version in store for around $30 or so. They really are great to have in large attics and basements though.

[@gustavfenk4021]

Counter-espionage interrogation light - to prevent “seepage” of secrets.

[@travcollier]

There are four lights!

[@Thingstest-rl8xu]

@ about 6:20 is 4 band resistor with extra band showing is a "fuse type" similar to Vishay PR02-FS datasheet page 3 @ www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/427/pr02fs-1762753.pdf Other brands for fusible resistor may use different color for 5th band but same thing like Yageo uses white 5th band.

[@mtreis86]

Any chance you'd post a long-form video some time with all of your process for reverse engineering something like this? I notice you use colored pens to mark the solder joints, and am curious how you use that to make the schematic.

[@bigclivedotcom]

I initially added the colour to help viewers follow the layout, but found it's actually quite useful for reverse engineering too.

[@XtremeKremaTor]

I'm buying them for extra light for the plants. BUT the ones I am buying have the petals made of metal. They do last for ever mostly. Plastic petals version with 30W draw have lasted for 2 years. After that the capacitor exploded and plastic was all brittle from the heat. I was even going to post it to the big guy

[@KirstyTube]

I wish I knew how long one of Big Clive 'moments' were ? Probably a few hours for me lol

[@bigclivedotcom]

Sometimes minutes, sometimes hours, and for really complex or potted stuff, sometimes days.

[@jameslmorehead]

@@bigclivedotcom I've taken to some of your ways of de-potting some stuff for repair and/or upgrades. It's amazing how slowly or quickly things disintegrate depending on if you have chosen the proper solvent. Acetone works well as a starter in most cases. Polystyrene has no idea what hit it. Isopropyl works for final cleanup or on rare/cheap stuff. I also have Ensolve on hand, but that needs special care as it evaporates extraordinarily quick as it's made to clean PCBs after manufacturing.

[@kirkb4989]

Yay, finally some proper white LEDs!!!

[@SabretoothBarnacle]

Your view count will go up in a few minutes, everyone's over at PhotonicInduction's channel watching him pop that 5000A fuse 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

[@WineScrounger]

I’m so glad he’s doing ok.

[@SabretoothBarnacle]

@@WineScrounger indeed. That was quite a comeback video though😅

[@twocvbloke]

I do like a light that doesn't have seepage problems, got enough of those with the sewer pipework outside... :P

[@ShinyPeeko]

Anti-seepage meaning sealing or maybe 'ceiling'

[@DigitalElectronicsCircuitsLab]

really enjoyed watching the video

[@Flying0Dismount]

You need T-shirts with the Kink Palculator on it

[@rolliebca]

Love these videos! Thanks for telling us how to Dubai it.

[@AndyFletcherX31]

The inrush current must be significant with the large rectifier capacitor and only a 0.5 ohm resistor to limit it

[@UnrealVideoDuke]

Was looking for this and found others like it searching for "Multipurpose LED Ceiling Light 60Watt" or "Deformable Ceiling Fixture Light" will give a better result

[@falloutwolfie7229]

I have no idea how i got hear or what im watching but i can't stop watching hes vids. No idea about anything hes talking about tho

[@EmbeddedEnigma]

really like your videos, super informative and actually really learned alot from them. Keep doing these reverse engineering video.

[@chrisa2735-h3z]

I Wouldn’t be surprised if It puts out 60 watts of flames🤣🤣

[@guyh3403]

Aren't these the ones that 8-bit guy is using? Ferocious white af!

[@graemedavidson499]

Anti-seepage design - as in a sealing (ceiling) light…..

[@Tayroy]

Boooooooo. I'm angry that I didn't come up with that. lol.

[@ericpaul4575]

It’s not a pun it’s a bad translation.

[@rexsceleratorum1632]

It's almost like someone translated "ceiling" phonetically into Chi nese and then translated back for the new product.

[@omarek555]

What about changing the 1.5 ohm resistors to make it lower power, like around 15-20 watts.

[@Mr.T4LLY-0]

No FLIR footage to show the hotspots? Bring out your precious. No, the FLIR precious. XD

[@duncanmacdonald6993]

The LED current will be higher than you said. Ignoring losses the current per LED will be given by 48 watts/(3 volts per led x (26 x 3) LEDs) which is 205mA per LED - allowing for losses probably about 170mA per LED.

[@johndododoe1411]

You forgot it's 2x26 sets.

[@electroniquepassion]

Merci 👍

[@danlemke6407]

I am surprised that with all the diodes I have seen on Clive's VJs, that there is any free electrons available to operate his equipment! He must be the keeper of polarity...

[@0Light6and3documentary9]

Hello👍🥇🎥👌 thank you! 🙂

[@christonabike2222]

I suppose the anti-seepage is so it can be used in conjunction with the one that shines when man comes.

[@PeteRondeau]

Thank goodness for Anti-seepage.

[@johnsiders7819]

The local farm store was selling the aluminum one like you showed some time ago and one the socket pulled loose and it fell out of it hitting the floor it was just pressed into the housing some thing to look at on there lights

[@dcallan812]

Shame its not a ceiling fan and a light. Anti seepage? is that it lets in water but wont it wont come back out? 🤣⛈⛈ Nice video 2x 👍

[@frankowalker4662]

Yes, It's cooling for the LED's. :)

[@dcallan812]

@@frankowalker4662 👍🤣

[@ShinyPeeko]

Anti-seepage meaning sealing or maybe 'ceiling'

[@johndododoe1411]

On first hearing it, I presume some way to safely drain out condensation, as mentioned in videos about various outdoor devices that did or didn't deal with the problem.

[@ZillionPrey]

The 8-Bit Guy has some of these in his Studio Shed

[@AUcameraman]

I have one of the deformable light. If you turn turn the power on-off-on you will go to a lower brightness. 3 settings High Medium Low. No control over the brightness setting. (I hate that). The light is bright at the high setting.

[@jessebob325]

Maybe adding some discreet passive ventilation holes would help its active life as well? Break out the Dremel tool! 👍🏻🍻

[@jerkovicbrate]

Can you measure voltage and current at low voltage side, to give us insight about driver efficiency? Thanks.

[@HyunMoKoo]

Maybe anti seepage was meant to be anti droop? As in the folding parts won't droop because of gravity.

[@oskardzida]

My guess is that anti-sipage might be anti-bleed, like light bleed. You can direct the light flux (stream?) a little bit so the translation went by water analogy.

[@snakezdewiggle6084]

Always in awed by the constant variety of these power supplies. And why do these LED lights have to dump so much heat, to be 'efficient' ? (plz excuse my oxymorons, I'm having one of 'those' days). Dam, now I sound like Electroboom. ;)

[@bigclivedotcom]

Even with high LED efficiency there is still a lot of wasted heat.

[@shlibbermacshlibber4106]

When things are "too easy" bad things happen, like in Alien, check the ceiling

[@johndododoe1411]

In this case, the too-easy danger is accidentally knocking the cover off, exposing live circuitry to random people and animals getting too close.

[@rexsceleratorum1632]

Be warned that if you snip the resistor to halve the power of the lamp, the automatic "deformable" plastic feature will no longer work as expected.

[@kiefac]

Do they mean "anti leakage"? As in current leakage?

[@bigclivedotcom]

Not sure.

[@xenonram]

"Seepage" not leakage

[@kiefac]

@@xenonram I know what it says, but it's a bad translation of Chinese to English, soo...

[@stridermt2k]

Seepage...it's not Gormenghast's "drainage", but it does have a certain appeal to the lowest of the low.

[@JohnSmith-qd8po]

Nothing that an adult diaper couldn't handle ...

[@mikebirkett010]

Where does the hose connect to the Hopi to test the anti seepage capabilities?

[@SimonSideburns]

If there are four fold out arms and the central section, and each arm has ten sets of 3 LEDs, that's 40 sets before you add on the central circle. How does the schematic only say 26 sets in this case, or am I missing something?

[@bigclivedotcom]

Two separate drivers and groups of LEDs. The schematic only shows one driver.

[@jayherde0]

@@bigclivedotcom ... Mathematics is on holiday today? ... The central portion has 36 LEDs - 3 don't gazinta 26 ;-) For a 24/7 light ... remove the surface mount resister and replace the through hole resister with a 2 or 3 ohm ? I can see getting some of these now that we know how they work.

[@SimonSideburns]

@@bigclivedotcom Yes, that makes perfect sense. Thanks for the explanation.

[@johndododoe1411]

@@jayherde0 Half the central section has 6 sets of 3, plus 2x10 such sections in wings = 26 sets per half circuit = 52 sets total of 3 chips = 156 yellow LED chips receiving 0.5W power each and emitting some as light, rest as waste heat.

[@brianterrill9587]

I did find a FYL9V that is used in a power supply adapter..

[@phonotical]

Every capacitor should be purple💜 What was the gt on your calculator?

[@harezy]

Would it grow exotic tomatoes 🧐🧐😁

[@kyoudaiken]

Cutting out the resistor should be viable. Half the power, still 60-70% of the light roughly. I also wonder how good the color reproduction is. If it's CRI/Ra>80 it should be a good lamp if the current is toned down.

[@marklittler784]

"Ferocious white light! "😂😁😅😃😂😅😃😂

[@curtw8827]

Your bin of E-waste keeps growing.

[@carlyonbay45]

My aunt Sylvia has a problem with seepage

[@SpotTiger]

Ah yes, anti-seepage! Finally, the lamp that cures incontinence!! 😆

[@lukedavis436]

they should make these spin

[@magnfrejensson2035]

How about drill a hole for fan and som holes for hot air to escape from the wings light? It is possible?

[@bigclivedotcom]

I used to drill ventilation holes in the bases of compact fluorescent lamps.

[@fxm5715]

I was expecting a Starfleet spaceship from the animated thumbnail.

[@lewisbaynham3858]

Hey buddy im learning electronics will you be doing anymore vids for beginners

[@peterdupont7559]

Sadly I thought that this was a more advanced "loft propeller" with some disco-light to enhance whatever you are doing above the sheets.

[@H3wastooshort]

I'm guessing "anti-seepage" means that it won't shimmer/glow when there is some current leakage though long switch wires.

[@grantrennie]

Have a good day everyone 👍

[@WillFuI]

I’m looking to making or finding a power led setup for a computer. I am just stupid when it comes to this kinda of stuff so some help would be nice

[@d.t.4523]

It only lasted 12 minutes, by my clock! 👍

[@gideon4747]

Hey clive, ive recently bought a "driverless LED" for my microwave light. It just looks like a big yellow diode with two wires going directly to the 120 ac pins. No circuitry at all from what I can see. It flickers at lower light settings, at what i can only assume is lower voltages. Can you go over this and maybe tear one down? Thanks!

[@bigclivedotcom]

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[@xxexplosivexxxxexplosivexx8512]

Isn't that the light The 8-Bit guy installed in his studio?

[@borayurt66]

That could have been a good design if it was the other way round, I mean if the leds were on the upper side, illuminating the ceiling.

[@RobertWardJones]

I'm just guessing but can the 0.5 Ohm resister actually be an inductor?

[@bigclivedotcom]

I don't think so.

[@johndododoe1411]

Or an NTC resistor to limit inrush.

[@dgsurfer]

as most electronics have low voltage DC transformers, would there be any advantage of having low voltage DC running from your fuses box, to outlets and lights

[@bigclivedotcom]

A whole house power factor corrected 24 or 48V supply could be useful.

[@EverBeyondRadio]

I have a 12v power cable running from my solar panel collectors. My girlfriend doesn't like it but we run night lights for the bathroom and charge our mobile phones from it.

[@johndododoe1411]

Big problem is that to carry the same number of Watts, the wiring and plugs must be thicker to handle the current. Then there's also the need to calculate and check voltage drop between power source and circuit, as many gadgets won't like getting only 8V instead of 12V due to something else pulling 4A (50W) through 1ohm of wiring.

[@billybull7419]

Anti-seepage is always good

[@DJChrisYee]

I'm curious. Does the power factor change as the voltage varies from 85v to 240v?

[@mohinderkaur6671]

ceiling repurposed into a lamp?

[@andyleatherbarrow7322]

How much did it cost?

[@Streamtronics]

What's the point of the foldable panels when their radiation angle is so big anyway. Like, I doubt it makes a difference whether they're folded all the way down or angled up a bit.

[@johndododoe1411]

Shipping in a smaller box.

[@robertwilloughby8050]

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but surely "anti-seepage" means no light bleed into areas where you don't want light? Anything else is frankly absurd, right?

[@ShinyPeeko]

Anti-seepage meaning sealing or maybe 'ceiling'

[@ernstoud]

No seepage, but does it shine when man comes?

[@phcoh]

Isn't the black band after the gold a tolerance I believe black was 1% in my day.

[@james42519]

to me i would call that white really. didn't see any blue at least in video. i think i would like that white compared to the yellowish white

[@gazzaka]

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[@paulabraham2550]

Has that chip really got 330v across it?

[@rpavlik1]

240V AC RMS rectified is about 330VDC, yes

[@paulabraham2550]

@@rpavlik1 That's not what I was getting at - if the schematic is right then of course that is the voltage applied. What surprised me was that a control IC would be directly powered at that sort of voltage (and not an order of magnitude lower). Not impossible I suppose but quite a surprise to me