Going Through 300+ Planes To Choose Your Premiums/Talismans For The War Thunder Sales

[@DEFYN]

Don't forget the link for an additional small discount and my new decal :) Hope I stopped you from buying the wrong thing :) store.gaijin.net/catalog.php?category=WarThunder&partner=DEFYN&partner_val=c56e1lgp

[@snowbrero5448]

Ngl the old one was better

[@GamingCheeto]

@@snowbrero5448 I like both

[@PabloB-KMP]

@@snowbrero5448 If you're a true Defyn fan you'd have both.

[@The_warthunder_guy]

Thanks defyn for giving me another decal to add to my growing collection and for making a great vid I can watch in the background during my free exam time slots today

[@NonameNinja55]

@DEFYN 1:15:59 Chinese F-5A gets Aim9Js actually, for some reason…

[@stormjet814]

see you all when he has to do this again next spring

[@Someone-qu3lx]

"VL Pyörremysky feels like it's made out of cheap wood" (It is made out of cheap wood)

[@Jatzki]

😂

[@bahadirmukan]

İt will beat a K4 every scenario

[@KekusMagnus]

@@bahadirmukan K-4 outclimbs, out-runs and out-energies it pretty drastically. It beats the G-2, with which it shares the engine

[@aaro_W]

suomi mainittu torille🤍💙😫😫🦅🦅🦅

[@bahadirmukan]

@@KekusMagnus no way pyo can climb at 31° AoA with 220kmh and has better turning&retention balance

[@EdgeR2]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="93">1:33</a>:04 for funny defyn sound

[@Denkmaldrubernacht]

My god ...

[@colonel_cookies_]

thank you

[@genghiskarsten6297]

Good info tnx.

[@aaronho1914]

Thank you

[@anarchopupgirl]

OOOOEE?

[@filippavlovic18]

loved the moment when defyn said "its defyning time" and defined the strengths and weaknesses of around 300 airplanes

[@pyencdocde5716]

I can't wait to watch this again because I didn't pay attention the first time

[@naeemahmed6494]

Thanks defyn man you're a hero. Hope you are enjoying those motorbike rides, it is a sweet ride after all.

[@rodericklenz5030]

I appreciate your dedication in producing this Defyn. The bare minimum I can do in return is liking, commenting and watching the whole thing.

[@incognito3678]

Liking, watching and commenting the whole thing

[@masondegaulle5731]

@@incognito3678 Something something engagement something algo fed.

[@oliverc0815]

At <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="85">1:25</a>:20 the JA37D F21 now gets Datalink for 4 missiles

[@DEFYN]

nice change too bad its still bad

[@bzorf_tng]

And the fuze of the SAP shell of the gun got changed so now it shouldnt be a hit mobile

[@jaxastro3072]

Too bad they killed that things FM like 3 different times. Was my most used plane back when the 37C was the top of the tree. Would even beat F16s and Mig29s in 1v1s back when apex predator first dropped. Now it struggles to fight F4s :)

[@40rollsonly]

@@jaxastro3072the flight model got buffed too. Cope 😊

[@40rollsonly]

@@DEFYNflight model got buffed too. Cope. 😊

[@EdgeR2]

Defyn videos to fall asleep to

[@GrimSix]

Video put for 30 min and your com is 7 days old how the hell

[@duckmucker]

@@GrimSix Probably paid for a membership so they get early access

[@DEFYN]

People review my videos before they go live I dont so paid early acces

[@RadiumTheFemboy]

thanks pookie defyn i needed this

[@joaoarmandowiteck760]

P-51H be like Full downtier: One of the most balanced props in the game Full uptier: Best prop in the game

[@monke25624]

I perform better in uptiers than downtiers, idk how

[@wydavii2512]

​@@monke25624 probably because it faces early jets, it will always stay at high speed while the jets engines need more time to regain speed, so if u turn against a p51h its over I THINK ITS THAT, never played with the p51h, just against it

[@monke25624]

@@wydavii2512 yeah, a lot of the jets try to dogfight me, that's prob why I get a lot of kills in the p-51h

[@wydavii2512]

@@monke25624 its probably the only prop that can you can do this in the game

[@UndeathCold]

I wish they finally gave the British Phantoms mercy and either lower them by 0.3 down or simply add on their current BR the 9Ls that they should have.

[@marioh6177]

Since I jumped to the end of the timestamp like a good follower would do, I am confused since the MiG 15 bis is sometimes in a higher rank and sometimes lower. pLeASe ExPlAiN Thanks man for the vid. Always followed your recommendations and never got disappointed. Sadly I already have everything I need. Sad because no one gives me my money nor my lifespan back.

[@fdfd4739]

Just a couple things: The He-162 personally was probably the worst stock grind I did short of the new ARH top tiers. I think it's just because it sits in a very weird spot performance wise. Don't be surprised when you just can't quite outrun a p-51h in your first match, but at full spec is it quite amazing for a low br jet. I may be insane, but I decided to do a last minute change in my plan to spade the Javelin and put it on the Magic 2 Jaguar after hearing of the nerf for the Jav. It paid off very well and I think I sit around 2.0-3.0 k/d with most of my matches actually lasting long enough to give some significant rp. Maybe I was capitalizing on the sale spam when I played it, and it was still a hard fight every time, but it ended up being good fun lol. I don't know if I necessarily recommend everyone to try it, esp if they don't already have it, but just something I didn't expect

[@DEFYN]

The javelin got changed last patch and the fm is pretty shit now

[@fdfd4739]

@DEFYN It's sad because I grinded UK just for it too lol. At least I have a rank 7 talisman instead, and the top tier of the tech tree has gotten significantly better.

[@cazperia4520]

The Ki-44-II OTSU is the one with the 40 mils.

[@magicmissile7533]

Nice vid overall, and i appreciate the dedication! Just a correction tho, at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="81">1:21</a>:46 the MiG-17PF is the same as the Lim-5P but with the ability to carry 2x250kg bombs, so meaning it actually gets 3x23mms, and besides the ariete it's imo the best grinder in rank 6, i had a lot of fun playing it getting through the tech tree

[@barred_barron]

you forgot the german premium tornado and the Su-22

[@DEFYN]

I skipped them cuz theyre bad

[@barred_barron]

@@DEFYN noted.

[@esadkurt1095]

AMX with cope hurt, is accurate but only with the simulator being the redeeming factor. Great RWR, find it more useful than a radar at its BR. Its got a TGP, lock the base and use CCRP with napalms, OR lock planes to identify and keep track of their location from far away AND for some reason get a lead indicator within 1km or so. Chose your target well and Aim9Ls do the job.

[@mtxle1nad]

good work defyn now I bet you won't make a 2 hour video

[@oOPrinzValiumOo]

My dude.... you are crazy! Thanks for your work :)

[@carlosadonayguardadogaleas6150]

I cant sleep lets see one of the best content creators of wt

[@erwinc.9117]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="84">1:24</a>:00 the D. 520 IMO is a much better VG. 33 at a rather miniscule 0.3 BR higher. It has crazy flaps for dogfighting and mid-high speed performance that equals 109Fs. It is underpowered but if you sideclimb for energy you can sweep a team pretty well.

[@paint4r]

My favorite dutchman talking about war thunder premiums slop

[@DylanAlexander-nv1ez]

The F-35 is a insane grinder. I average 700-800k sl in any sim match I take it in. If you can pick it up I highly suggest it. Sl will never be an issue again.

[@JDEEZ6969]

Oh heel yeah defyn! You da goat 🐐

[@steffent.6477]

That german La-5 is expensive as heck when they bring it once a year.

[@KekusMagnus]

Back in early 2013 it was a UFO with superprop performance and everyone bought it, so they increased the price from 1300GE to the current 5250GE before nerfing it, then they just forgot about it

[@synomuumi]

I really enjoy these videos because they also work as a sort of "state of the meta" guides for air RB, even if you don't plan on giving the snail any of your hard earned dollars.

[@ml-fishing1341]

For italy, the premium Bf-110 is insane for ground RB. Monstrous firepower and a huge bomb load, you can use it at 6.0 and be effective. Hunts most low tier planes effectively

[@ccramit]

I don't even buy premiums anymore, but I like watching this just to get an idea of where planes are at in today's meta. I don't play as much as I used to and I don't pay attention to patches so this is a nice easy way to keep up with the game changes.

[@JaykeBlayde]

As a ground RB main, I use these guides to help determine best CAS options. THANK YOU

[@Swaglozo]

Now I can spend my money on more pixels 😍

[@WPope]

nah the M.B.157 is goated. You just need trigger discipline. Relatively easy to get 3 kill games once you get used to the guns

[@DEFYN]

yes it's good as a grinder not too much

[@sarcasmenul]

It’s a brutal plane for beginners, I played this when I was an idiot and I was awful with it and now that I’m flying it again I’ve had excellent games with it.

[@DasVryst]

Sussy defyn decal!?!?

[@bleichmane]

Damn, Defyn is defyning. Merry Christmas:D

[@aidenoak9728]

I'd honestly recommend the Meteor mk4 F, the non clipped wing one at 7.7, over the mk8, better power to weight than a CL13 B mk6, whilst having a lower stall speed and better retention than the mk8, while also not having the speed limit issue of the Sea Meteor mk3. In a downtier you go 900 against 7.0s, and while you compress a bit at that speed its super easy to play around. The only shitty part is the guns, but it's not like you can't kill people with them, they just are a bit tedious

[@dannycross3808]

Thank for the nearly 2 hour video. Used your code. Getting the Chinese m41a3 and ki-84

[@el_DartoSuprapto]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="977">16:17</a> INNIT?!

[@Finnix.]

This is some insane work, tysm

[@masondegaulle5731]

I'd love to see you do an ep on that little Brit Corsair F MkII. That thing is wild, routinely get 4-5 kills because it flies like a 3.7, downtiers are just criminal.

[@iuploadclips851]

Whew, good thing I fed the snail with the link for the previous decal (not that the new one is bad, I just like the older one)

[@michaelsanders6920]

Listening to defyn use profanities in a funny accent for an hour and a half makes my day

[@JohnDoe-yo2us]

Mooi overzicht, weer 5 kwartier in een uur gepraat!

[@TheDougsSB]

Honestly the Jaguar IS is an okay pick for Britain, 2 magic 2s is basically 2 free kills if doen correctly, used it myself with a talisman and it's a challenge but it's fun

[@jmssr5504]

I feel like the La-200 should be included

[@sundhaug92]

I'm a bit surprised at the hate for the J29F, I feel I've done quite well in it. Also: The non-premium A32A can take out bases quite easily

[@MarkDrisch]

I don't need any planes but I'll still watch all 1 hour 40 minutes and 49 seconds of this.

[@croatiandude8884]

The ariete is absolutely insane for sl farming

[@hagridflower2907]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="3100">51:40</a> Mig-23ML has 2xR24 and 4x(not 2x)R60M

[@Alpakinator]

Meteor mk.4 G.41F (the 7.7 one you didn't mention) is the strongest meteor imo. 1000kph rip speed (vs sea meteors 850kph) + it climbs and turns even better. very worth 0.3br increase. much better than clipped wing meteors

[@jedbedrock2944]

You should have given the Bv-238 its own personal Meme tier.

[@lksenp]

love how the section title for the usa is forgot the a2d and yet its the first rank 5 plane introduced

[@kRIEG_elf]

Not a single one of my favourite British planes on this list. Success!

[@aldocarulli3054]

I'm one of the 2 italian viewers btw but i'm not pissed off at all, keep going with the macaroni my man

[@patriklenck1735]

nice! when do you do Tanks?

[@DEFYN]

I dont have the knowledge for that

[@patriklenck1735]

@DEFYN sadly :( but thanks for the nice content! Really helped me to Pick Up the Game:)

[@untitled4148]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="89">1:29</a>:03 Please elaborate on the etendard im a decent pilot usually but I CANNOT make this thing work

[@klulessdood4327]

Note for Italy the spit Vb trop is rank III even tho the techtree one for Britain is rank II

[@Bezem1944]

I think giving plane higher rating because it's premium is kinda moot because it's talisman video and they will get premium bonus for exp. I would prefer to see list only based on performance

[@DEFYN]

I get your point tbh, might do for the next one My thought proces was that you can scroll to the end of the segments and see the order in 1 quick glance

[@Bezem1944]

@@DEFYN yeah, thanks for time spent on making this video tho :) appreciate your content. I would keep prem A-10 in ~B because it is frag machine in shitters, someone might take pic after you moved it and see it in cope and think its bad :D

[@F-14-W]

Defyn you do know this patch actually buffed the viggen its fm is actually flyable its not as good as it use to be but almost there and in some situations is actually better, another thing is it did also get its data link channel of 4 so it can do proper bvr

[@pko6596]

i belive you overlooked Q5s in the chinese tech tree in terms of grinding they are essentially slightly "worse" mig 19 but with flares and rwr essentially all strenghts of the mig19 apply to them and they can really shit on people who stick the energy fight

[@_ace_defective_]

Given he didn't mention the MiG-19 in any tree except China's, I'm actually not surprised at the exclusion. Being a good plane doesn't necessarily mean being a good grinder. The MiG-19 has great flight performance but it needs time to play energy and really take down targets, so it's a great plane obviously but it won't get score as quickly. The Q-5s are about a ton heavier than the MiG-19 iirc, so they turn worse. Thus, the issue is further compounded because their worse turn means that it takes even longer to get your nose on target to shoot things down.

[@pko6596]

@@_ace_defective_ i agree but at the same time they eliminate the main issue of the mig 19 and can also bomb with napalm before coming to be a fighter they might not be the best at grinding but at that rank i would argue they are the most consistant thing china has due to being relatively up tier immune

[@CaptBojangles]

Prior to the IRIAF F-14A, I would have argued the F-20. I get the "F-16, but worse" argument; but that only really matters for someone who's already unlocked the F-16. But since the IRIAF F-14A has shown up; the F-20 is almost unplayable. The lack of countermeasures vs the fox-3 spam makes it pretty miserable to fly. And then you get pulled into 13.7 uptiers and its just soooo much worse...

[@Splint993]

agreed. jet needs a downtier

[@VIT-ey8wo]

​@@Splint993 more like top jets need to go further up.

[@lixlivlxxxiv714]

For Sweden, you put the B18B but not the T18B (57) which gets free kills every game.

[@terraflare2962]

can i get a head pat for being a good little boy for feeding the snail

[@maciejobara7208]

bedankt Defyn

[@_EUREKA.]

Hey, I agree with most of what you said, but the mirage IIIC at 10.0 is a complete sealclubing machine. The performance are insane, the matra r530 is a guaranteed kill and after that you still have 2 magic 1. Also after your missiles well the game is pretty advanced and most people dont have missiles left so you go down and clown on everyone trying to fight you. My only problem with it is the 30mm that are not easy to aim, im dogshit at the game and i pulled my first 3 aces in this thing in 33games, for context its the only plane im positive with.

[@Jack_Gibby]

1 hour and 40 mins of ambient DEFYN yapping

[@jedenasty2226]

Ju288c is absolute monster, kills evering in it's proximity and can bomb.

[@kerotomas1]

Surprised not seeing the FGR2 in Britain. With a talisman it's a way better grinder than the F4Junk.

[@crashbandicootnerd4321]

The Shenyang F-5 is pretty good _IF YOU'RE GOOD AT FLYING MIGS._

[@celras5941]

First of all amazing video. Which Rank 8 Jets would be worth to talisman in your opinion? With Rank 9 just around the corner and 80 $ price tags for premiums, I think many people would prefer to Talsiman a Rank 8 Jet. Thank you!

[@gasupplisson]

For the fr3nch rank 3 i would recommend the d520

[@edoardomarrazzo]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="79">1:19</a>:29 oh cmon man im from italy i tought you loved me :(

[@TorstenP-cq4gl]

I didn’t expect you to say that 💀 <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="93">1:33</a>:02

[@mike1045]

Great video, I was tempted by the Premium Harrier GR.1 for UK, where would you put that? Seemed to have missed it :D

[@Rorywizz]

I play the Harriers a lot and would personally put it at C. Everyone poops on it which is kinda justified because it's a slow flareless brick but the missiles can be fun occasionally and it can bomb. The Sea vixen is a lot better but I'm not sure if it's still on sale

[@mike1045]

@Rorywizz Cheers for the good information

[@arucalibrxti3782]

nah dont get it your getting shit on in air and ground

[@theannihilator9167]

I grind the british top tiers with the Tornado F.3 and a talisman. This thing is freaking awesome and i dont know why its still on 12.0. Awesome speed, good missiles for close combat und tons countermeasures. Just wanted to say this cause its not mentioned here. And for Japan the EJ Kai.

[@GrimSix]

Crazy that the french sea hawk is the only one out of sales....

[@Jigglypoundage]

Don’t worry. As one of the two Italian mains that watch your videos, we like it when you degrade us, after all getting dommed is what we do best 😎

[@lapantony]

Damn F4D really went up in world since its release

[@mathiasvernet763]

You forgot the Be-6 It's a pretty good grinder for the russian TT imo, and the guns on it are really nasty. It's slow AF, it's not idiot-proof but it's reliable and you will usually down 1 or 2 fighters during the bombing run. Also, no mention of the G.55S ?!

[@k__aviation0]

Sale just started an my man releases a 1 hour 40 minute vid.

[@Янус_Ырт]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2560">42:40</a> La-5F was in the game for years, if not from start, man, why that Lavochkin unawareness

[@DEFYN]

It just got buffed so its a new addition to these lists because i didnt recommend it before

[@h_leb]

The Chinese f5a gets the same missiles as the f5e (aim9js), so the Chinese f5a is probably a better plane in terms of grinding

[@gupikot5272]

Wake up!, DEFYN posted

[@baz4745]

Damn Defyn always cooks, every year XD

[@motoquasi]

Thank you!

[@HeinrichDerGrosse1298]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1553">25:53</a> what about the av8b na?

[@DEFYN]

I think its mid

[@Soccera0]

I will not accept P-39N-0 hate. The 37 is hard to aim but once you get it down its firepower is I'd say even equivalent to planes with 4x 20mm cannons. Especially against twin and quad engine aircraft where it can't be dodged inside of about 400m.

[@poguetanker6522]

i would like to say dont sleep on the j-7d no more with the 10.4 br

[@pencilcase8068]

Defyn out here giving us a lot of gifts. Time to bust out the wallet

[@edwcon4032]

Love your vids❤

[@NoMi_Nomad]

I've got 1010 kills and 273 deaths in the Ki-44-I, seeing it in B tier almost broke my heart lol

[@DEFYN]

S tier plane for sure but theres much better grinders at the tier

[@KekusMagnus]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="66">1:06</a>:30 Fw 190 A-5 "good flight performance" have you flown this thing recently??? Since its FM got nerfed in 2022 it has the most god-awful flight performance of all 4.7s. The guns don't save it from being completely outclassed in every single fight, and it does not get an airspawn so you have to side-climb. It's cope tier or C-tier at best, it needs to drop to 3.7 and even then it would be mid

[@lartsapox]

I have most of the techtrees done but still watched entire vid so can help friends decide who dont :)

[@andyvie5332]

Love how for germany you didnt mention the Tornado WTD61... Dont wanna give people the impression its an airplane?

[@DEFYN]

Well it isn't

[@Samila009]

Will turn your ass inside out ...funny 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@nicolaiandersen1402]

Will the F5C and the F4s Phantom even be on sale? All the lower tier premiums are, but the "packs" doesn't seem to be on any discount whatsoever at the moment. WIll they be at some point?

[@domagojmarcic5617]

@DEFYN you have to make a decal "at the end of the day" 🤣🤣🤣

[@engi7456]

the scimitar flight model has changed it has a rudder now

[@NANOG-P8]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="77">1:17</a>:08 : ' u will u ' - defyn 2024 🤧

[@samadams2203]

The Italian 109 F-4 does get gunpods. Is great.