The 10.3 Plane With 11.0 Missiles - J-7D

[@Beulena.]

One warning for people wanting to Talisman the j-7e. The teams are not great and you need to get 3 kills to go positive on SL in a loss (at least during the average length of an 11.0+ game). This is if you die.

[@holesintheground38]

this has been my experience too. the plane is at least fun to fly tho i thought i could get around this by squadding up with my friend in an f-14 and it just put him on these same teams instead of putting me on the american teams haha

[@akarouge]

@@holesintheground38 Right now the team either has the USA on both sides, or the USSR on both sides. Not super foulproof atm.

[@sadrootbeer]

yup. 20ksl for repair costs is just stupid. But hey. Gaijin only cares about money and you spending it for any reason at all so that's expected. I just wished they would add in some other FKING game modes that didn't involve 2 teams of planes colliding in a massive shit show at the start of every match. it's just so dumb.

[@fuahrahn]

i got talisman on j7e and got f16 in 4 hours, so its ok. But yeah, USA team dominates

[@korutoinoue4389]

i used J8B instead of J7E，its cheaper，and if you are downtiered， aspide always can get u some sneaky kills

[@smigoltime]

All the best and good luck in 2023 Defy N ;----DDD

[@kingghidorah8106]

DeefNutf

[@sosobel5843]

Why the ;----D look like a pe-

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@sosobel5843 Fuark

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@trollking7046 Kackewerfer

[@tobi2233]

@@Betto_333why was the n word the first thing that came to your mind? Fuckin war thunder neckbeard

[@IowanLawman]

Knowing Gaijin, those Eagles and Flankers will indeed be 11.7 because "Hey the AIM-7M/R-27ER are already at 11.7!" and then only when the AMRAAMs/MICAs/R77s come will there be 12.0.

[@kingghidorah8106]

the Eagles will get buffed and Flankers would get something important removed because 'they are already good enough and don't need them'

[@alamoemperor3845]

@@kingghidorah8106 why would you think so? the Mig29 ingame rn is one of the best planes, imo better than the F16 (no thanks to having the best BVR missle ingame now)

[@sentinelxcix2526]

Idk man, they might sneak the Harrier F(A).2 in at 11.7

[@evo3s75]

​@@alamoemperor3845 ehhhh, no. F-14 and F-16 are top dogs rn, I'm more struggling against those than the MiG-29's

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@alamoemperor3845 Russians have most of the time been top dogs performance wise but having totally balanced armament removed because Americans just cry too much about muh rear aspect only as if IR short range missiles were still relevant in a BVR and head on Doppler radar sparrow meta where sorry to spoil your point but America has been king of that since the F-4J was added. Vympel R73S were very strong but still balanced since they could be flared away until the second dev server where they buffed them over the top for 12 hours to build up rage from US mains to finally remove them as they planned to do since the first day they added. R24s are also worse now.

[@a_komainu]

That commissar teamkill bit is hilarious lmao, despite the sub par performance of a MiG-21SMT with chinese missiles at 11.0 the video is pretty fantastic

[@xBaristaPaul]

I just have to say that im very proud to have a fellow Dutchman with a WT channel in this community! Beste wensen gozer!

[@aleski6506]

Time flies so fast... can you believe that 2010 was 53 years ago? Happy new years Defyn and everyone else

[@lolzers7986]

Chad mig-23: Missiles friendly Refuses to elaborate further, Leaves the area.

[@petar6950]

All the rank 8 planes have abysmal sl multipliers. You'd think they would be better for 70$.

[@nobleman-swerve]

Seriously, I was shocked with how comparatively poor the rewards for the tram were compared to my F-5. If the snail wants $70 for a single vehicle the thing should have insane reward multipliers at the very least.

[@CsStrez]

@@nobleman-swerve I wonder if a talisman'd F-5E or something would be better

[@doud623]

I have bought the J7D and I have to admit it’s not the best, but I’ve had the most fun with it and would totally reccomend it!

[@iansykes6792]

Finally remembered to use your link and got the awesome decal!! Thanks!

[@Ken-no5ip]

For future china grinders: the a5c still earns 5-10k rp for tier 8, i got the f16 with it in 4-5 hours

[@ArcaneOverHeaven]

Hey, Im thinking about grinding china for the J-10A, is the A-5C still worth it or nah?

[@felion_]

The 10.0 plane with 11.7 missiles - a10A early that destroyed the matchmaker. Every match I play has 6 or more a10 early’s

[@MrRobschnieder]

Yeah just recently bought the F5C and any time I get a downtier it’s an instant loss with 10+ A-10s in there.

[@ThaiLitzki]

I highly recommend to wait a few seconds to wait for everyone elso to span, spot what kind of team/br range you're in. If there no chance of F8Es, F4j etc etc you can go all flares instead of mixed. It saves you a shit ton from 9Ls spam.

[@AMDeZani]

Missiles aside, I wouldn’t even call the A-10 a 10.0 plane. It’s slower than even some props. You give a Spitfire Mk 24 400 flares and AIM-9Ls and it’ll probably do better!

[@niggalini]

@@AMDeZani lol nah. It's flight performance naturally isnt much but that simply doesn't matter when it carries missiles that are a guaranteed 2 or 4 kills against the many flareless jets it faces (and even those with flares might get caught as the 9L has IRCCM). Rank 6 and above's meta shifts to weaponry as opposed to flight performance being the primary factor of which plane is better

[@AMDeZani]

@@niggalini Yeah, that’s what I mean. The 9Ls are 11.7 missiles, but the airframe of the A-10 would barely chop it at even 7.0.

[@Thisious]

"the commissar doesnt like that, and if you're useless you might as well be dead," hahahah that is too funny dude 6:20

[@jegory6899]

12:06 -10000 social credit

[@robertvanschepdael1425]

Thanks for showcasing the J-7D. Watching your video, this jet bleeds speed very similar to the J-7 II and found this a good video to watch in how a pro would use the J-7 II. I notice that you took 20 min of fuel where I in Arcade am resigning myself only to min fuel , but I do watch my afterburn usage, so I can stay as maneuverable as possible. Can't use the keyboard like you guys but I do do well using the mouse for all maneuvers except rolls. I will buy this plane eventually when this pack comes on sale. I like the RP and SL rewards. Thanks for a good review as always from you.

[@alexr6994]

arcade player lol

[@robertvanschepdael1425]

@@alexr6994 How's that Zoom Button workin for ya?

[@bradenhagen7977]

@@alexr6994 Not like RB is that much less arcady

[@janflorovic5880]

**Chinese missiles ** PL-1 produced from 1958-1969 PL-2 produced from 1967-1970 PL-2A produced from 1970-1981 PL-2B produced from 1981-1986 PL-8 entered service in 1986 PL-5B starts production in 1987 PL-7 starts production in 1987 PL-9 starts production in 1989 PL-5C starts production in 1991 PL-9B starts production in 1992 PL-8A starts production in 1994 PL-5E starts production in 1999 PL-9C starts production in 2002 PL-11 starts production in 2002 PL-12 starts production in 2005 PL-8B starts production in 2006 PL-10 starts production in 2013 PL-10E starts production in 2016 PL-15 starts production in 2016 PL-21 still in Prototype Stage : China buys Italian Aspide missile in 1986 but cooperation ceases after the 1989 massacre. China buys Python-3’s from Israel in 1986 China buys R-27’s from Russia and Ukraine in 1991 China buys R-73’s from Russia and Ukraine in 1995 : PL-3, PL-4, PL-6 never reach production or service use.

[@xeontron964]

Very nice information

[@leveler74R]

Jo Defyn, wil alleen ff zeggen dat sinds ik je video’s je video’s mij erg hebben geholpen!!! Ga zo door 👍

[@cursedcliff7562]

Dutch is not a language to be taken seriously

[@dyren7437]

@@cursedcliff7562 To this we say in Dutch: "Lik dan lekker mijn linkerteelbal jij gore kankermogool" And i think thata beautiful 🥰

[@NocturneSega]

Thank you Jengar, another great vid.

[@farmcat9873]

Happy New "DEFYN"

[@MrPanggs]

Really thought that the F16 and MIG29 being added would replace the J7E as the most manueverable plane at top tier, but for some reason they limit them to 9G's

[@fixit9844]

It’s a half-assed implementation of these planes’ fly by wire systems, combined with them having a lot of speed (you don’t need to be full burning while dogfighting in these planes, they have insane engine power)

[@yesyes-om1po]

@@fixit9844 gaijin's flight model is starting to become a bit dated, both the F-16 and MiG 29 ingame have significantly weaker engines than IRL, IRL these planes also have afterburner stages, so you can get afterburner thrust but with less fuel consumption, this is ideal for when you don't want to rip your wings off in a straight line but need to go faster than mach 1, and you can go full afterburner in a dogfight when its not a concern, would also be neat to see the different afterburner effects, and would be tactically useful to see how hard your enemy is burning their fuel. the fly by wire system doesnt justify the turn rate, G-limiters can be turned off in combat irl no?, I am pretty sure the F-16 and MiG 29 can sustain far more than 9gs, it just won't be great for the airframe's lifespan or maintenance, but I think this can be said about every aircraft, its a bit silly.

[@sule.A]

I dont think mig29 got fbw

[@norske_ow3440]

Would love to see an updated ej kai vid now that it faces 4th gen every match ❤

[@TheDAWinz]

Man I thought you hit that shot at 15:14 that was close lol.

[@sosobel5843]

Same lol

[@saabsk60b31]

I think this is a good explanation of this aircraft. I would like to see some prop content though, maybe around the 4.0-5.0 BR range.

[@H-cranky]

He said he's gonna cover all the new tier 7 premiums

[@saabsk60b31]

@@H-cranky ok, good to know

[@hungarianlad9734]

This plane may not be the best, but it’s certainly very very fun, I’ve had great times in this thing

[@152mmapfsds]

That "welcome back" hit dif in 2024

[@rileyring6025]

2023😂😂

[@yingundjan.strkstrm]

what?

[@DEFYN]

2019 was 8 years ago

[@raksomething6942]

@@DEFYN wake up wake up wake up the accident was 12 years ago it’s time to play the F-22 wake up wake up

[@russian_spy2205]

@@raksomething6942 hmm only F-22? I'm on rank 14 in my CFA-44 Nosferatu, doing 30+ kills every game

[@americansoviet9908]

As someone who’s grinding the F4C and stuck at 10.0 US with an entire team of exclusively premiums, 11.0 sounds like heaven

[@jakehaessig5151]

Oh boy don’t I love the full a-10 teams plus like two f-5cs

[@jakehaessig5151]

Even with a team that practically can’t be hit with missiles and aim-9ls they still, get hit because they won’t flare

[@dilldoe1991]

Isn’t buying an a5c and putting a talisman on the j7e literally just more expensive than buying the j7d tho

[@DEFYN]

if you get the A5C on 50% off like you should with all these packs its about the same And way less painful

[@MarlinHunter673]

The talisman is basically free if you use the 2000 GE that comes with the A-5C pack as it'll only cost 1400 GE during 50% sales. And you really shouldn't be spending GE or buying packs without said sales.

[@dilldoe1991]

@@MarlinHunter673 so you want everyone to just ignore leveling up their crew?

[@asiftalpur3758]

@@dilldoe1991 what frequency are you on mate

[@MarlinHunter673]

@@dilldoe1991 By GEIng crew levels you're just wasting GE since you can get them for free in a semi-reasonable amount of time and prove to Gaijin that fucking their players over to extract money out of them is a profitable endeavor. It doesn't take longer than several dozen battles to get the G-overload skills maxed out and Experts unlocked for purchase, just don't engage in 1v1s against skilled enough players and leave at your AF until then.

[@RedTail1-1]

Yeah I don't know about the A5C instead... They are literally all I kill when flying the A-10...

[@henryatkinson1479]

3:40 inb4 F-15 and Su-27 at 12.0 next patch or 2

[@sarcasualindividual]

I bought the A5c and really just do not like it. Magic 1s will get thrown off if your target even thinks about flaring. They also just have terrible drag stats and get munched by the air if its not a DIRECT rear shot. The plane itself isn't terrible. But after 750 kph, the plane just becomes a lawn dart and does not want to move After test flying the J7d and owning the Mitage f1c 2000 im certain i can make it work

[@afloppyfish200]

Recently got my F4EJ (The 11.0 one) and damn top tier seems impossible to play. Decided to retreat back to my F-1 so I can keep my sanity.

[@norske_ow3440]

I just got the ej kai thanks to the f1. Completely ignored the ej after getting dumpster’d about 40 times. The f1 actually does pretty well if you play very passive and abuse the radar to find people

[@norske_ow3440]

Btw the ej kai is WAY better than the ej. Pulse Doppler radar makes a huge difference

[@dakotahondalock5621]

Goof Trooper back at it again with some solid content, happy new year btw

[@Shankmeyster]

Watching this in late 23 and seen 2 kill rounds in RB twice in 1 night. The 1 sided rounds are insane these days.

[@kek207]

9.7 to 10.3 is quite frustrating rn. I used to love that BR but now you got SU25 and A10 Spam. Kinda sad to see that something without flares literally can't survive 3mins in that environment

[@Hawkeye_Myhawk]

Dunno man, 10.3 and 10.7 are the best brs by far for me right now. Especially if you have the mig21mf. 11.0 and up is straight up top tier, so pretty boring. And 9.3 is pure cancer of 97% uptiers where you are useless

[@williewilson2250]

@@Hawkeye_Myhawk well when you have the mig21mf and smt yeah it's fun for anybody who plays it, those things should've been 10.7 with the draken a long time ago and the only reason they weren't there was because of the lack of a countermeasure pod

[@aleski6506]

@@Hawkeye_Myhawk smt and mf are like the best jets to fly in the game lmao. Try something like a f1 that is worse than an smt in every category except the vulcan. Dont get me started on the 10.7 f104s without flares

[@stoyantodorov2133]

@@aleski6506 The crusader is up there too. Good thrust and maneuverability, plenty of of flares and quite deadly missiles. It feels like a 10.3 J-7E.

[@Hawkeye_Myhawk]

@@aleski6506 f1 is my second most played jet, its worse than mf in every single think but I like how it looks. You get so many downtiers that its pretty fun to fly. Unless you get too close to an a10

[@polaska_tyu]

6:28 that joke, I cant breathe LMAO

[@homemadeaxel4503]

Im actually wondering, why dont you give streaming a go?? might work great imo

[@telesiak2484]

john seen stole his ice cream? -10000 social credits

[@_GODSFIGHTER]

12:06 lmao The ending by the way is sad. I've never seen a match in 4 min except if I was in mozdok

[@absboodoo]

First day of the year and the commissiar is already hard at work

[@idriswt7286]

It is maybe not great but man I had really fun times with it!

[@raphaelambrosiuscosteau6685]

Where is mig29? What are you waiting for? Another buff?

[@Rumpelpumpel3]

Could you pls review the Bf109 Z? Rarely ever see any content on it

[@SanityDot]

BING CHILLING 🥶

[@Jayhawker32]

Honestly, after the most recent patch it seems like no missiles have flare resistance anymore

[@SMERSH_BERSH]

Well got this on discount so I’m not beating myself up about it. Now I think I’ll get the A5

[@kobakami7793]

i got the j7d, some times it can be frustrating against F16/F14, u just adapt to fly very low on the start of the game, analyze enemies, locate the worth to kill and run against them, pl5b does all the job and it's prety ez to go grinding with it (at least for me)

[@andythesaladgod4578]

I honestly prefer it to the A-5 just cuz of the way it flies to the but some MM changes would make it way more enjoyable like 11.0 BR cap or moving it to like 10.7

[@Daniel-CMelinte]

You are full of shit sir.

[@Spunky7819Hove-bi4eg]

I kinda bought this thing on accident, I thought they had moved it down to 10.7, but my game mode was set to arcade, I will say, it’s pretty bad, but it goes up against so many premiums that have no idea what their doing. A5c woulda been better, but I like the j7e enough

[@majorpark]

what missile do you recommend using more, PL-5B or PL-7?

[@H-cranky]

PL-5B any day

[@vavord5181]

PL-5B

[@Kaijiro____93]

is it always best when dog fighting an enemy with missile to turn Radar off to not let them know they are locked?? Everytime with F5C, I get flared

[@clayblaze1327]

So glad I switched to dcs than dealing with the bullshit at top teir here

[@elenaeverett4481]

The FishDead

[@savatage9777]

I heard a long while ago that the 30 mil nose cannon in the later bf109s actually affects the weight I think I remember it being lighter than the 20 mil but I can't fact check this anytime I look it up I get no results does anyone know anything about this thanks

[@maxthehack9072]

yes armament weights do indeed affect flight performance. Wikipedia: Mg151: 42.7 kg Mk108: 58 kg

[@savatage9777]

@@maxthehack9072 thanks man

[@maxthehack9072]

@@savatage9777 no problem

[@martijn9568]

@@maxthehack9072 Not that the weight difference is significant enough to notice in most cases. You're better off using a gun you like using, rather than taking one over the other for a few kilo grams of weight.

[@RedTail1-1]

10.3 vs 12.0 what the actual FUCK. Gaijin needs to either add an entire new BR rank and stretch things out, or make it so that 12.0 gets it's own matchmaker so that F-14/16 Yak-141 MiG-29 and Mirage-20005F(no one uses) can all just fight each other.. Wouldn't even be a problem since at 10.0 it's literally all F5C and A-10A on one team and no one whines about that

[@MootietheCow]

BING CHILLIN

[@MausOfTheHouse]

Please make a video about the FGR.2 and how it needs to be replaced, please.

[@stoyantodorov2133]

It doesn't need replacing. Gaijin should give it the AIM-9L and it will be an excellent missile bus.

[@MausOfTheHouse]

@@stoyantodorov2133 Прикольный сценарий

[@dyerleader]

Could you do a video in the mig27m in the current meta please?

[@Bennyy85]

Do you think they will buff its flight performance? If not is the new German premium a better option?

[@CyberBot17]

i literally just entered the test flight of the j-7d and you uploaded this lol

[@kingghidorah8106]

this video is Zhong xina approved 😑👍

[@roberttauzer7042]

Defyn cannot even comprehend 90% of the populace is SL-starved: ) It HAS to be premium else I had to play 50% of the time and grind SL 50% of the time, climbing to top of TT. You see, gaijin has it all figured out!

[@Siddich]

F-35 as german 12.5 premium? 🤔

[@DontM8-__-]

what is the discount code?

[@FRDOMFGTHR]

I haven’t played in 2 years, did they nerf RP and SL rewards? I feel like I get 50% of what I used to

[@BrunimMCD]

Hello DEFYN, i was searching into your channel for a Harrier GR.7 video, i and i couldnt find one. I´m having a hard time playing vs F14 and F16s with him and i cant come up with an actual strategy that works against them. Can you make a video about the GR.7 or please enlight me what should i do? I do wanna ask if its possible to have good games on GR.7? Since i feel powerless compared to other jets in the same BR.

[@DEFYN]

I do have a harrier gr.7 video and everything i say there still applies

[@mtunit]

J7D ,now ? DOA

[@thetrainshop]

MiG-29s historically ran like absolute dogwank at mil power, or really any power level below reheat, so meme or not at least the snail got that bit correct

[@Owlberightback]

Am I insane, the PL-7s can slave to radar?

[@ホークショット]

missile gameplay 🥱

[@Appppy]

PL-5Bs are one of the most flare resistant missiles with one of the smallest seeker FoV except for those ICCM missiles.. they seem to be like an r60 but they have like more than twice the rocket thrust than an aim-9L giving it close to aim-9G range..

[@H-cranky]

Yeahh.... No. PL-5s can be flared with a single flare in almost every jet by just cutting afterburner

[@Daniel-CMelinte]

@@H-cranky I agree, this dude is talking nonsense.

[@IslandWork1]

Happy New Year Dudes

[@pastanick48]

Happy December 32nd!

[@WarCry3R19]

What you think of the F-4EJ ADTW? Is there nearly a chance to do some stuff besides try to bomb fast and maybe get busy planes with the aim9?

[@matthiasfeid5929]

It is basically a copy paste of the regular F-4EJ which is probably the worst 11.0 in the game. You only have AIM-7E's and AIM-9P's as missiles and non agile eagle Phantom Performance, so you can't really deal with planes that well. It's only real use is as a bomber as you said

[@WarCry3R19]

@@matthiasfeid5929 *sigh* well then i go bombing

[@norske_ow3440]

It’s literally identical to the tech tree ej (just a reskin) if you are trying to grind the ej kai, your best bet is just stick with the f1 and ignore both 11.0 ej.

[@zacharylucchetti3038]

How would you recommend grinding in the A-5? Prioritizing kills or bombs?

[@TheFingerman77]

For grinding I would usually take a load of bombs and two magics, it sets you up pretty nicely to attack enemies at off angles if you survive your drop route. Lots of people play it as a pure fighter, I think it used to get an air spawn.

[@No1harris_98]

Is it worth getting the F1C? I know it isn’t the best but I need a better grinder instead of the Milan because that aircraft is pure pain to grind with.

[@kobenrivers1189]

Don’t ask Defyn that question his community seems to hate the F1 if you want to get it then you get it.

[@No1harris_98]

@@kobenrivers1189 bruh I’m only asking 💀

[@kobenrivers1189]

@@No1harris_98 yeah I’m just saying he’s not the best unbiased opinion on it. But it’s better then the Milan

[@DEFYN]

it's ok he doesnt have the plane and is coping prematurely I made a video on it 2 days ago if you're interested. It might be the best french grinder soon but it's by far the worst 11.3 in the game, just keep that in mind

[@No1harris_98]

@@DEFYN ok thanks I appreciate your answer, I have seen ur vid on it already but I can’t decide between buying it or not considering you and other CC have gave mixed answers.

[@Vaughnage25]

Is this still true?

[@BULKABULL]

MB.5 pls

[@nemisous83]

i wouldnt even call the PL-7 a 11.0 missile since every French jet that gets the Magic 1 is sub 11.0 and every jet at 11.0 and higher gets Magic 2's. the J-7D is at best a 10.3 and at worst a 10.7 aircraft.

[@yeethappymeta]

comisar mig23 executing the su22 💀💀

[@haydenchan6389]

Should’ve called it the ‘Fishbad’

[@DEFYN]

The J-7D is called the fishcan so no

[@BTechUnited]

@@DEFYN more like fishcan't.

[@DEFYN]

more like look at that thumbnail

[@norway3062]

Play the yak 15p

[@alfonsomarquezdeacunariesg5911]

pls f4ej kai video with those new aim9L

[@Daniel-CMelinte]

$70 premium with copy paste cockpit in Russian langauge/Cyrylic alphabet in a 100% produced and used by China plane .

[@Rguhbuh]

Gaijin moment

[@katerinamalkova1126]

Top tier air RB is just trash rn. I cannot, for the life of me have any sort of fun. It’s just missile thunder where teams get obliterated the first 3 mins. I just want to have a proper dogfight sometimes but no, here’s 5 missiles for you while my team is ground pounding or dead. Fun.

[@bennyohara2357]

Mate, i tried to grind chinese F-16 but i swear always being hooked with really bad teams and it is fraustrating

[@mochabear88]

gg

[@yuta5926]

As a New supersonic pilot of T2, I HATE THIS AIRCRAFT. I can not out run, i cannot use rocket to evade its PL-7. Its just unfair

[@zeljkomadzo614]

But Defyn, 1st game and MIG-23 kill you say you used Magic but that´s no Magic ;)

[@ghostofthecommentsection]

There are rank 3 planes with better SL multipliers than that plane.

[@WadælTheDisciple]

sound sick or tired either way you need some rest

[@ChrisVesgo]

For someone that doesn't play Chinea or France, how are PL-5 and 7? Whats their Russian and US counterpart and what makes them better or worse than said counterpart (just so I get an idea)

[@bobdole6768]

never found pl5s that flare prone tbh

[@c17bykenshi67]

2:20 exactly what i just did lmao, got the a5c for gaijins 10th birthday and unlocked the j7e exactly on christmas for the christmas sale

[@norske_ow3440]

6:29 😂😂😂

[@moldypotato4656]

people might not be engaging you because they think you're in a J7E instead of a J7D.

[@lithium1135]

Fishbed’nt

[@wilsonlee4658]

this plane's flight performance is just so damn insane that im crying in my EJ kai. often times u just wish your plane had the flight performance to clutch wins when needed

[@kingghidorah8106]

Mig19 stomps it in a 1v1, thing that doesn't happen vs J7E

[@hebele3585]

J6K1 #21

[@Hazey652]

Just like if thr Chinese decided to pull a funny on Taiwan, their air force is gone in 5 minutes or less too, who says WT isn't historically accurate 😉

[@_xxexexx_3002]

I think u mean 11.0 plane with 10.3 missile XD

[@tankdempsey2926]

mig29 scared of bin chillin