Assassin's Creed Shadows Should Be Fixed?

Should Assassin's Creed Shadows be fixed? What will Ubisoft do with it? What are the legitimate problems with this game? Let's take a deeper look at it. #assassinscreedshadows #assassinscreed #gaming
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[@DegenerateJay]

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[@damgful]

Currently replaying through the series and they are the perfect 'podcast games'. Some people might not sit through this but I thank you for it. I have always enjoyed your and Nate's discussions. If you ever make a proper podcast with him I think that would be pretty neat btw.

[@admirekashiri9879]

I’m enjoying this 😂 I’ll definitely finish this video. Hek I’ll probably watch again!

[@Mic-8302]

Not a bad thing that this is a long video. Definitely a treat to watch/listen to! You guys are very reasonable when making decisions and crafting discussions. I’m not just talking about this video and the last on AC. I usually watch KZbin not signed-in and have never decided to comment on a video before. However, I felt highly inclined to show my praise because it is important to highlight when people make informed criticisms; not just because it’s a popular opinion. I like that you take into account all /most sides but still promote your belief. It’s very important in these times on the internet! Don’t ever get discouraged by comments. Thank you for all of your channels’ content you make!

[@ektran4205]

japan might ban ubisoft games

[@damgful]

Because one Right-wing politician in a political party with little power talked about it? You guys are so misinformed it's not even funny. Continue watching grifters.​@@ektran4205

[@geypanis]

The American Right every day before this game : "cancelling things is soft and ridiculous just don't buy it." The American Right when AC Shadows was revealed : "CANCEL THIS!" Idk they can't have it both ways lmao. This is the stuff they get mad at the other side for. When it's actual Japanese people concerned, sure, but they still shouldn't "cancel" it.

[@Tin_Le]

There is a video from a KZbinr named Project Moon, and he said that any topic that concerns Japan will easily get people's attention. Like the Western culture programs us to care more about Japan than any other country in the world, including our own

[@anhonestrussian7056]

@@Tin_Le I'm all for respecting other countries that's a great thing, but certain ones shouldn't get special treatment like that.

[@gabe.o.d.s227]

​@@Tin_Le like that meme of Somewhere: I sleep Somewhere in japan: Wow

[@damgful]

It's because none of them have actual values. All they care about is owning the other side - that's it. Meanwhile you have vultures on social media stoking the flames for money. It's pathetic.

[@sevenhunderedandseventy-se8719]

Lets go! Love the long-form videos!

[@justinsider7890]

People on the internet are definitely not great at listening lol

[@firstlast6226]

Or reading

[@mcsnake7748]

38:25 Discs still matter to me because my account got hacked and I lost all my games.

[@michaeljordan9664]

That’s awful

[@andyowski1515]

KZbin could easily fix the whole thing with people commenting without watching the video if they implemented a feature where it showed how long somebody had let the video play before commenting. There would still be ways to game the system but it would be way less easy to just talk out of your backside and not listen to anybody's points.

[@Nicholasmcmath-cr1xl]

That is a good idea

[@visionary1138]

And I bet most of the same people won't bother actually watching the follow-up or listening to the reasoning. They already have their minds made up and it's ok when they do something but not someone else. Hypocritical imo.

[@JoshuaVaughan-pi1sn]

They will just hate buy the game so they can review bomb it not realizing there still contributing to sales these people are not living in the real world man

[@hughmunguss5338]

Exactly - asking for any changes or updates that will make things better is great. Asking for cancellation is what American babies did forever about things they hated but it was wrong then. I guess now its not lmao 😅

[@admirekashiri9879]

Honestly seeing your videos on this topic is a breath of fresh air! You’re balanced and I respect that.

[@笑い男-z9j]

I am Japanese. This whole fiasco started because UBI claimed a big lie that this game is based on Japanese history or that Yasuke was a samurai, which is a historical fact. It would have been a different reaction if I had said that this game was fiction from the beginning. A closer look at the cause of the uproar reveals that a British elementary school English teacher who came to Japan about 10 years ago discovered Yasuke and began falsifying history by altering the contents of Yasuke's Wikipedia and Encyclopædia Britannica. With the release of this game, it was discovered that Lockley had written his own book based on his own altered Wikipedia and had presented a fabricated history of Japan to the world. Now in Japan, this fabrication of history by foreigners is more of a problem than UBI. But such things do not matter to the people of the world. It does not matter how Japan is treated. Most people would think it doesn't matter. That is how human beings are. Whether it is historical fact or fiction is of no concern to gamers. Incidentally, Hirayama, a self-proclaimed historian, claims to be a university professor, but actually holds only a master's degree. He does not have a doctorate. Somehow he works for a university of health sciences. Furthermore, his argument follows the same logic as before: “Nobunaga gave Yasuke a wakizashi(dagger) and a house. This alone does not prove that he is a samurai, and in the end it is all speculation and possibility. In other words, was Yasuke a samurai? Was he or was he not? No one knows. We don't have enough material to make a judgment. If that is properly understood, it doesn't matter if there are fictions about blacks being samurai.

[@hughmunguss5338]

This still falls under the idea of asking for changes is different than asking for a cancellation. The sad thing is many don't know the difference and are calling for a full cancellation. Ubisoft just released a big statement online yesterday saying this is fiction but that's not really good enough for people, so I ask sincerely, what would be good enough?

[@笑い男-z9j]

@@hughmunguss5338 I am not looking for a complete cancellation. But various issues have not been resolved. One is that the president of UBI called those who criticized this issue racists. I will not tolerate this.

[@hughmunguss5338]

@@笑い男-z9j I thought he was talking about the people who specifically were doing things like calling a black man a monkey, not everybody. When I saw that I did not take it as every criticism.

[@hughmunguss5338]

@@笑い男-z9j But that said, I think that's reasonable to have a problem with that statement. I just have a problem with people calling for Total cancellation.

[@笑い男-z9j]

@@hughmunguss5338 ???? In short, what do you want from me?

[@hughmunguss5338]

I don't think that my comment worked before, but my actual question for people who did want a cancellation is what is enough? Ubisoft released a big statement about how it's just fiction based on some parts of history like every other game the other day. But that wasn't enough. So what is?

[@笑い男-z9j]

I am Japanese., I myself am not looking for any more cancellations. But UBI sounds like “This is fiction, it doesn't matter. Don't say anything more” They've apologized, so don't complain anymore, That's what they're trying to say, isn't it? They probably don't seriously think they are wrong. UBI has no respect or sincerity for Japan. UBI always does. Perhaps this sentiment is lost on you.

[@hughmunguss5338]

​@@笑い男-z9j Well if you're not looking for an outright cancellation, then clearly statement isn't directed at you, right? I don't like cancelling art due to offense. There's been Japanese art I find offensive to my sensibilities and I just don't buy it or I will say I don't like it and that's it.

[@笑い男-z9j]

@@hughmunguss5338 This is what most of the people asking for cancellations are saying. I am not asking for it to be cancelled because I no longer care about this damn game. What I am asking is for people to correctly understand that this is not a factual game.

[@andyowski1515]

​@user-rz5ls9kn9g You're not listening. The problem is the people asking for cancellations. Not the people asking for some changes.

[@笑い男-z9j]

@@andyowski1515 This is because this is the opinion of those who are signing the petition for the cancellation.

[@JoshuaVaughan-pi1sn]

Personally I wouldn't care if people hated it i only draw the line at the petition point of things because its like ok now we are no longer having an issue with the game now we are just forcing our opinions on people like seriously if you don't like the game just don't buy it like why is that so hard for these people to do and honestly that would hurt them far more than a petition trying to force a cancelation will only give the game free press and make these people look like entitled brats by making a petition these people are essentially admitting they know the game will sell well and they know its a work of fiction and they know they have 0 reason for there hate other then personal opinion so instead of just not buying it they want to basically make everyone else just as miserable and hate filled as them but if anything me personally this is just making me want to buy the game more like i dont know how others feel but thats where im headed on this 🤷

[@SIlentOnryo332]

99% of the hate comments are NOT Japanese I only listen to the hate comments from Japanese people because this is THEIR culture and most of the hate comments ive seen/read are really just about the wrong Kanji, theft of a flag, very rarely have I've seen anything about yasuke from the Japanese. the game looks spectacular, can't wait to play it I enjoyed Odessey, and Valhalla I enjoyed them, I've played Ghost of Tsushima that's the more HISTORICAL side of gaming, assassins' creed has always been alternate/A-Historical look at ACIII a Native-American didn't help George Washington win the revolutionary war. Nor did a random Irish man cause an entire city to collapse because he touched a pretty rock. and since when did an arm gun exist in history lmao Edit: i personally want to welcome everyone into America, Russians, Japanese, Chinese, Indians other nations dont want that for example the japanese are an island nation and very rarely if ever see a colored person (can't say for the MODERN Japanese) so they are more like "alienated" or "tf are you" like Nobunaga (forgive me if i spelled it wrong im trying to get better at it) loved UNIQUE things Yauske was a very UNIQUE individual as Nobunaga (again sorry) had never saw a COLORed person.

[@笑い男-z9j]

I am Japanese, but it is always talked about that there are many foreigners who lie like you. Many Japanese are interested in this issue. It is even on the news on TV.

[@SIlentOnryo332]

@@笑い男-z9j i dont see many comments in alot of these videos talking about yauske that are japanese so i appologize. dont want to get into an argument just want to appologize.

[@teezoowazoo7272]

@@笑い男-z9j This is also kind of what this video mentioned though about this weird concept of "foreigners" who almost aren't allowed to speak on this subject.

[@teezoowazoo7272]

@@SIlentOnryo332 You should be able to speak what you've seen with your own eyes. You don't owe anyone an apology.

[@SIlentOnryo332]

@@teezoowazoo7272 im always apologetic on stuff like this im only going off what i know and have seen, mainly because i have alot of respect for other nations and their history and try and read alot on that history. and i also just dont like conflict so i say sorry and lave lol

[@Sammy.Bear.King1234]

This game shouldn't be cancelled but it feels like the devs were lazy designing the game. I remember Ubisoft did not give Altair the crossbow in the game, like in the trailer. Because the crossbow didn't exist yet. This was a long video but this video had to come out. Thank you & nate for releasing this you Rock brother god bless you.

[@damgful]

After AC1, that level of commitment to accuracy pretty much stopped. Everyone who denies that is looking at the series through rose tinted glasses.

[@SouLP196]

Please I want one thing to be made clear. Usually, like in 99% of the cases, it is not the devs fault but the management. Bad decisions in gaming industry are mostly taken by management and/or marketing guys

[@SouLP196]

@@damgful and actually AC never claimed to be 100% historically accurate. The disclaimer at the beginning ALWAYS says it is INSPIRED by historical events, not that it will reproduce historical events 100% as they were.

[@Sammy.Bear.King1234]

@@SouLP196 it's still a problem then management is causing the game much backlash if they actually listened to what the fans really want.

[@RipaStar00]

crossbows existed long before AC1

[@doctormunchthatdin7642]

Maybe Persona should be "cancelled" then with how it appropriates the names of and use of deities that are sacred to many people lmao

[@HKLYTUNG]

There is no fixing this, the sales number from us Asian gamers will not be high.

[@annapatton6025]

The preorder sales say otherwise

[@doctormunchthatdin7642]

I bought it lol

[@harlannguyen4048]

@@annapatton6025 It's, like, 26th place in preorder sales last time I checked. Game controllers have more preorders than this game.

[@harlannguyen4048]

@@doctormunchthatdin7642 Didn't Totalbiscuit tell us all why it's a really bad idea to preorder games?

[@Glasgowliam]

I'm so tired of people starting petitions, mainly because they choose to be offended on behalf of someone else. I live in Japan, I read Japanese media every day and I interact with a lot of gamers over here. Not one of them objects to Yasuke being the main character. The only people who could justifiably be offended by the choice of character are the Japanese, and it seems the vast majority of them couldnt care less. All this does is allow Ubisoft to get away with their far more insidious practices, like price gouging, micro-transactions and abusive behavior from execs towards staff. Its all a grift. Manufactured outrage.

[@笑い男-z9j]

I am Japanese, do not tell such lies. How can you tell such a lie? lol は？嘘つくなよw

[@artcorbeau]

you think japanese people are the only asians who have legitimate concerns ? we other asian men who wanted a male asian representation have to shut up and suck it up? white men and women, african men and women, middle eastern men and women, asian women can have their representation within the franchise, but asian men have to shut up and suck it up and be happy with being represented by a woman ? asian men have vagina, is that right?

[@captainnyan-nyan2005]

'I live in Japan'. This is the damn internet. You might as well be living in Mexico and still type that.

[@matuiyo2000]

If I face a tour guide who has a wrong knowledge in my home town, I correct him.

[@anhonestrussian7056]

Sure, but you probably don't advocate that his work be cancelled, you just correct him, right? There's a big difference.

[@doctormunchthatdin7642]

@@anhonestrussian7056 Some people are so dumb they might try to get the tour guide fired.

[@anzrhrn1614]

Vote with your wallet. If its cater to "modern audience", so you should hope that those "modern audience" to buy enough your product for ROI.

[@harlannguyen4048]

More often than not, these "modern audience" never support the products made for them.

[@adamvine5398]

I think they picked him because not a lot is known about him so it gives the writers a lot of creative freedom

[@thebatmanofneo-gotham5667]

As of right now, the current biggest issue with the AC Shadows controversy is the recent apology post that Ubisoft just put up on Twitter/X. At first, they simply lied about the game being historically accurate in order to hype it up, but then in their apology, they just straight-up backpedaled and admitted that their game isn't meant to be a factual representation of history. Like, guys, why didn't you just come out with that sentiment in the first place? Why do all of that pretentious "historical accuracy" bragging about Yasuke, only to turn around and say that him being a samurai was debatable? And on top of that, the person you turned to to check if he was a samurai or not is that Lockley person who is currently known for being a fraudulent historian who basically wrote a fanfiction about Yasuke being a samurai. How the hell does a game company become so lazy that they rely on an irreputable source for their research? Now, I do want to come forth and say that I'm not personally bothered by the idea of depicting Yasuke as a samurai. The man himself has his life mostly surrounded in mystery, so if Ubisoft wants to depict him as a samurai, then sure, whatever. What I DO wish, however, was that the company was more honest and upfront about who Yasuke was, instead of trying to parade around his life as a samurai as being historically accurate when it clearly isn't.

[@stubblytuna4068]

My opinion is that Ubisoft deliberately chose yasuke on purpose in order to A, distract gamers from actual issues, B to get easy ESG points, and C to deflect any criticism of yasuke with the racisim and historical character card. I don’t even mind that he’s not Asian but it’s feels so forced. They had naoe right there but Ubisoft clearly hasn’t put they misogyny behind them and refuse to let carry the game. Honestly whether yasuke is a good character or not, it doesn’t matter to me anymore. I’m voting with my wallet and on my principles and not buying the game and I suggest to anyone who feels remotely similar to do the same.

[@nigelburg2555]

I know this is a month old but you brought up something that I kind of have an issue with. You claim that's why they picked Yasuke, but you don't actually know that. For all we know, perhaps the develops genuinely wanted to pick Yasuke since he's a fairly unique figure in Japanese history. My point is that it seems that even if they picked Yasuke for genuine reasons, they would get accused of being woke or being disrespectful. It makes it that telling a story with Yasuke is now impossible without getting hate. How can Yasuke appear in this game in a way that won't get accusations of being woke? The only way would be to make him a background character and not show him in the marketing. And I think that's unfair.

[@antisbuster6296]

It is incredibly hard to cancel a beloved franchise. Despite whatever someone may or may not think. Assassins Creed is a beloved franchise by MANY. The games have been around since 2008 and have continued to sell since. The best take anyone can have is simply, don't subscribe to the nonsense. Vote with your wallet, and that's about it. Personally I'm going to purchase it, and I'm probably going to enjoy it. But these type of games appeal to me, and I understand that Ubishlop is always going to serve Ubishlop but it's the exact same parallel that Call of Duty has. Everyone always complains about how it's a terrible game that gets released every year, and somehow it sells millions of copies every year. Play what you want to play, and enjoy what you want to enjoy. Don't support ANY company because they will not support you back. It's all a service and some people like myself, just don't care to pay for the service because we are enjoying what it is we are getting.

[@thefervidactor8529]

The “Japan says don’t like don’t buy” thing only works if what’s being created is both about the west and disrespectful of western culture. Westerners being offended by primarily Japanese media(for Japanese people) isn’t the same thing.

[@doctormunchthatdin7642]

Except I"d argue this wasn't made FOR Japan, it was made about Japan. It's just also being sold to them.

[@MasterTemplar781]

I don't think there is anything wrong with the price Normal edition costs like 70 bucks which is around the same price for other games that released or were in preorder stage. However i can agree with the rest your saying.

[@Toragila]

Ubisoft brought the dogpile on themselves I mean really you have 1 playable character who is historical in this game alone what was the thought process behind that blunder I wonder

[@xKawaiiKittenx]

I don’t think that comment was about Ubisoft.

[@AlwaysCorrect-ke6tt]

I also do think that the people telling you that "Yasuke isn't the problem" some of them are being honest but if you look on twitter and social media Yasuke is constantly trending when this game comes up. Maybe it's not the problem for someone but for a lot of people that literally is the focus of their complaints. They don't care about the disc stuff or the art theft or any of that. That's just ridiculous to me.

[@JoshuaVaughan-pi1sn]

I have noticed that to they say it but they aren't showing it I legit had an argument with someone telling them who cares that his story is not 100% historically accurate there is literally a disclaimer telling you at the start of every single game that it's not meant to be and his response was well Japan is gonna sue Ubisoft and I'm like for what giving you exactly what they advertised like what is wrong with these people it's like they don't live in the real world 🤦 the ac series is not for everyone but this is just getting unnecessary these people are coming off like entitled children if you don't want the game like just don't buy it like why is that so hard to do why create a petition and go this far over basically just personal opinion like enough 🤷

[@chriscolombie4135]

@@JoshuaVaughan-pi1sn yeah I find that brain dead too, but ubi did shoot itself in the foot when advertising it as historically accurate when long time players know these aren’t historically accurate at all but they do put in a lot of effort in the world , buildings, armor type, historical conflicts, not always perfect but one hell of a job but certainly not historically accurate cuz Ezio did not ride a freaking medieval delta plane in Italy ain’t no way

[@JoshuaVaughan-pi1sn]

@@chriscolombie4135 but see that's the thing did you know Ubisoft never said that the post was photoshopped it was obvious when some people pointed out that the fake post didn't even have the correct profile picture honestly people just are avoiding the subject because they don't want to hear it same with the fact no KZbinrs seems to be talking about how Japan basically has got involved and basically said they don't care the only people who seem to be offended by this game now is the ac haters even when Ubisoft apologized they still didn't except it at this point it's like they are trying to actually harm them Ubisoft even said in a post some of there staff are getting threats over this

[@chriscolombie4135]

@@JoshuaVaughan-pi1sn it’s not only ac haters , it’s two sides, one are the actual few Japanese and history nerds that do bring interesting points to the table but most of them bare no hate then the louder other side are composed of grifters that never touched an Ac game in 13 years coming to fan the flames of hate it’s prime time you got people in the right that don’t even play video games talking about it, people who are still pissed at sweet baby needing an outlet and actual racist like the game awards stream where ac shadows showed gameplay people kept spamming monkey, we was Assassins and shit, George Floyd and tons of racist shit you got actual bot accounts with the same user name user***** with some random number writing in Japanese to make it blow out of proportion. It’s insane to me cuz most of the complaints are complaints that shouldn’t even exist even they played even one Ac game in the last 7 years

[@damgful]

What annoys me are these disingenuous "logical" arguments they make when they had already decided their position by getting annoyed at the trailer. They go on social media to get their talking points and suddenly it's as if they came to those positions through some sort of deep pondering on the matter and defending of core values.

[@CardCrusher29]

The only way Ubi will "fix" things is when the revenues are adverse. The spectacularly performing AAAAAA Skull and Bones seem to not hurt the bottom line for that company.

[@devin6079]

I absolutely agree that there are A LOT of valid criticisms for this game but most people i see talking about it simply just don’t like that he’s black. It’s not even that he isn’t Japanese, which people seem to just conveniently gloss over the other protagonist that is Japanese, it’s just cause he’s black. I never saw ANY kind of controversy like this around something like, as you said, the Wolverine or the shogun, which is an amazing show but it’s just strange how selective the hating is. I just need the game to be fun and have decent writing.

[@artcorbeau]

you think japanese people are the only asians who have legitimate concerns ? we other asian men who wanted a male asian representation have to shut up and suck it up? white men and women, african men and women, middle eastern men and women, asian women can have their representation within the franchise, but asian men have to shut up and suck it up and be happy with being represented by a woman ? asian men have vagina, is that right?

[@annapatton6025]

​@@artcorbeauwhy are you copying and Pasting this?

[@harlannguyen4048]

Him being black was never the issue. Most people wouldn't mind him being in the game as a side character.

[@devin6079]

@@harlannguyen4048 Him being black is the issue for most.

[@dr_kopic]

Hey I’m a little late to the video since I’ve been busy, but as usual another great video jay!

[@roberthubert2805]

I’m just like just wait until the game come out

[@argop4518]

It's not like we don't know that petition may not affect whether this game being released or not. At best, the petition would only affect the game sales. It's more about sending a message that marketing historical falsification as historical fact is beyond offensive and shouldn't be taken lightly. It's not racial issue. Japanese developers wouldn't falsify western history and market it as historical fact like what Ubisoft did. But go read the game description on any site and you'll find these misleading words like historical, legendary, and samurai regarding Yasuke when there's no evidence to support those claims.

[@damgful]

I truly wonder how these people would react if, say for example, AC3 came out today. I just finished replaying it and I have a strong feeling the way it criticizes how much the Revolution and its founding fathers are romanticized, calling into question the continued slavery and mistreatment of indigenous people, would ruffle a lot of feathers. More, in fact, than whatever Shadows could ever dream of doing. The ending of that game says it all - while the patriots are celebrating Connor looks to the side and sees a stand with slaves ready for auction only to go to his village, shortly thereafter, to find his people were all driven out and their lands sold ("taxation would have been too British, too soon"). Or Shaun's emails and speeches about how homophobic and racist they all were. Being realistic, Ubisoft would be too cowardly to ever release a game like that, in spite all its flaws, nowadays. Once people realize that this would be the scenario today, and the fact they didn't care back then, it becomes too apparent that none of this outrage actually matters. It never did.

[@lowdefinition4250]

I'm going to listen to this entire video while I do some work, but I want to say that I found your last video to be a very well reasoned take. However, it was very conspicuously missing the viewpoint of a huge demographic that this affects. Asian Diaspora (e.g. asian americans) - specifically men. Our opportunity for an Asian Ezio has been completely erased, which stings because of the history western treatment of our demographic in media. I'm not going to go into a lengthy exposition here so I'll just summarize it in two bullet points: - Anti-Asian racism in media is gendered, so the lack of positive asian male portrayal is NOT fixed by Naoe existing, which the game's supporters continue to gaslight Asians with into thinking is okay. - There is no positive portrayal of asian men. I knew about this decision back even in November, but I kept an open mind, and Ubisoft's racism shines through more strongly with every trailer they release. Somehow asian diaspora voices have been drowned out by both conservatives screeching foul at every minority, lgbt, and woman in their games, down to the absurdity of thinking women in video games look too "manly". But at the same time progressives are equally as if not more guilty of drowning out asian voices by painting every critic as a racist, when from our point of view it is Ubisoft, and them by extension, being racist. I don't blame you for missing this huge viewpoint, because I believe discussion around this game on social media was engineered, and Ubisoft planned for asian voices to be drowned out. And what makes it worse is the blatant double standards - Genshin Impact, an even bigger franchise made by a Chinese studio, was recently accused of whitewashing a character inspired by a Nigerian god. Which they absolutely did. But the same people that are actively defending this game, are the ones calling RE5 racist, decrying the new black hawk down game for being colonialist, and accusing Genshin of culturally appropriating. And the industry backs them, while ignoring the anti-asian racism that I find to be not unlikely malicious by Ubisoft. That doesn't sit well with me.

[@toa695]

I feel like almost all of this is purely speculation that the creative decision to have a Japanese female is of malicious and/or racist intent, but I don't really see anything pointing to that being the case. Also, whilst Asian females do get a lot of representation in media, not all representation is good representation. They are almost always in very stereotypical, helpless immigrant or rebellious young girl rebelling against strict Asian family, or a generic love interest for a white saviour... this might actually be one of the better representations we ever get for a game protagonist.

[@lowdefinition4250]

​@@toa695 I finished the video actually, so great timing on the comment. 1) Yes, it's speculation that it's malicious, but given Ubisoft's history of explicitly saying "women don't sell games" back during their 2020 scandal, I'm almost certain that behind closd doors, they said something like "asian men don't sell games". And as a former longtime AC fan, I can tell you there's only ONE piece of media in all of AC that has a full east asian male protagonist, and it's a niche mahnua called AC dynasty written by a chinese manhua artist. 2) I never said asian women get better representation - I said they get oppositely racist representation which means the solution involves representing both asian women and men positively. If Ubisoft is the type of company to go "representation matters", they can't give half the entire asian demographic a massive middle finger. I'd literally rather them just come out and say "yeah the reason why we decicded to go with a black guy instead of an asian guy is because asian guys don't sell. get bent". At least they'd be honest. I'll take blatant in your face conservative racism every day of the week insidious stab-you-in-the-back progressive racism. See point 1)^

[@toa695]

@@lowdefinition4250 I feel like this attitude is doing a complete disservice to the legitimacy of Yasuke as a protagonist. I don't get why the only conceivable possibility people can think of is that he was only picked because Asian men don't sell, or for political reasons. Yasuke as a character is actually quite interesting and pretty much ideal as an AC protagonist, especially for the story they appear to be telling, the Jesuit are going to be templars, I'm 99% sure. Someone with direct ties to the "templars" as well as direct ties to Nobunaga, who also fits the classic and successful trope of "stranger in a strange place" that people seem to love when telling a story of Japan, see Shogun for example which was critically acclaimed and is getting nominated for Emmys. I don't know, it just seems strange that when a black character is involved, suddenly the only possible thing that matters about him is that he is black. Very strange indeed.

[@lowdefinition4250]

​@@toa695 I'm NGL to you, this is shaping up to be a bad faith discussion. The reason doesn't matter - I already told you in both comments that it's an educated guess, and I'll reiterate it here. It's an educated guess. The real problem is the effect of this decision, which is that we as Asian diaspora feel erased, invalidated, and excluded from the representation discussion. They say representation matters and then pull this stunt. It's inconsistent as hell. If you didn't see people complaining about the last samurai, shogun, marco polo, tokyo vice, or any of the countless western shows set in asia that came up with an excuse to shove in a white main character, then you haven't been listening. It's not just "suddenly because it's Yasuke". No, you just haven't been listening. Again, this is progressive hypocrisy at work - progressives are trash allies to asians, and I would even go so far to say that they're enemies. And you're STILL not listening. The very first comment I complained about this being an important matter for Asian diaspora and you've been doing your best to delegitimize my voice. This is a prime example of how people are using talking points to drown out asian voices. Edit: I am criticizing Ubisoft, why would I be concerned that what I'm saying does a disservice to Yasuke as a protagonist? Even if it were, I wouldn't care.

[@笑い男-z9j]

@@toa695 >>I don't know, it just seems strange that when a black character is involved, suddenly the only possible thing that matters about him is that he is black. Very strange indeed. ???Yasuke has appeared as a game character before this game. Don't you know? The problem this time is that UBI initially said that this was a game based on japanese history and that Yasuke was in fact a samurai. They finally retracted it and apologized yesterday.

[@scotlandhillman9229]

I agree that the best way to show Ubisoft you mean business is to not buy their games. If Shadows isn't something that interests you, then don't buy the game. This entire situation with the petition is exhausting and won't change anything. And it's also really immature. To want something cancelled just because it offends you is ridiculous.

[@triton5336]

I agree with most of your points Jay I really do... It's so refreshing listening to people who talk rationally on the internet. One thing I didn't agree with is just making Naoe the only playable character reason being it's based on the idea of avoiding contraversy when I can argue that people will complain no matter what it's up to the writers to choose what they want not the execs or people who want F or M. They should do what's best for the narrative, and as I see it Yasuke has the more interesting Narrative or story as suppose to Naoe. I can already guess what her character arc will be whereas Yasuke you can't really because it could go so many ways where as Naoe just has the standard revenge story which is made interesting with Yasuke being involved but helping her. AC Hexe will have a FEMALE Only as a protagonist for its own narrative reasons (Witch hunts) and AC Shadows has its own. Whether a gender works or not really depends on the writer or narrative in question. Like how Syndicate could have had Evie only and it wouldn't lose anything but in Odyssey it would have made as much sense as AC Shadows having both characters playable with their own stories like Alexios should be the mercenary because their step father who trains them is a TRADITIONALIST to a fault that doesn't make sense if Kassandra is the mercenary she should be Deimos but Deimos must also be playable. That already sounds like a more interesting game just like AC Shadows. Anyways that's just my thoughts, I would like to know what you think and keep up the great videos. It's sad not many people mention the digital only crisis we are speeding towards... Hopeful things change.

[@mcjcave18]

Nice video

[@AnthonySmith-bj9mo]

hi Jay

[@sonupuppy6419]

Any updates on the assassins creed remakes bro? Hopefully an ezio trilogy remake or a black flag one

[@hughmunguss5338]

Oh man I feel like they'd mess up Ezio in a remake. Do they even know how to do that style of game now?

[@damgful]

In an ideal world, I want Ubisoft to take the remakes as an opportunity to reboot the series and rewrite the stuff that didn't work while simulatanously expanding what did by fleshing out certain characters. In reality, Ubisoft would just make everything worse so I'd rather they don't even touch it. But yeah, a RE/ Modern Warfare style remake would be my preference.

[@Umchokewl]

See, you touched on a point that upsets me to the utmost highest degree that I don’t see anyone talking about.. Honestly F all the complaints about a game that will inevitably have you play it. I want to OWN MY GAMES! My history with gaming is very choppy but let’s say when I bought my ps5, I, me, my own person, did not have any idea that the games were not on the discs. Not only am I now paying an absolute boat load for a game, but I technically don’t even own it! Because of that alone, I am super picky with games and hate when I get one I don’t enjoy. We need to stop trying to change a game and go back to buying and owing rights. That’s my biggest gripe. It’s basically online without being online. I play all games offline. Anything ps plus required is skipped cause I don’t want to pay extra to play a game. I don’t get to play any of those fun games but I suck it up. I don’t buy, I don’t play. That’s it. I accepted it and moved on. Not a big deal in the grand scheme of life. I got bills and shit. A lot of your points I put in a Skizzle comment 2 days ago. Great vid and keep standing your ground unlike all the followers in this world.

[@jjl8456]

W video. I watched the whole thing. ❤ ❤

[@WideOldDan]

Nice to hear people being so rational and honest. Thank you for admitting you're bad at AC1. Not many have.

[@AnthonySmith-bj9mo]

hi Nate

[@benh6452]

Theres no way they hust up and change the main character. They will go forward woth it

[@gregorybatman]

Degenerate Jay. This whole issue is about racism, let's be honest racism. This is just a video game, a work of fiction. No one has a problem with Nioh. Ubisoft did nothing wrong. As far as for Yasuke he was given a place of honor in Oda's court, a sword, house and stipend. He fought for ODA in battle, was at his side when he killed himself. Sounds like a Samurai to me. If people don't like the game don't buy it. It's suppose to be fantasy and fun.

[@harlannguyen4048]

Then explain the response by the Japanese people.

[@JustCallMeKart]

I love most of your content, and I've been subscribed for a while. I'm pointing this out for the sake of criticism. I study sociology and history, and my perspective is that of a young left-wing queer person who lived in Japan previously, but was born in and currently live in the West, so understand my perspective is skewed, as anyone else's is. No one is objective. There is a HUGE misconception regarding any discussion about "culture." You bring up several times things like "the west pushing their ideals" or "they have a different culture," things like that when making your points. In making these claims, you ARE doing a form of generalisation of a group. Saying "Japanese people are super polite" sounds positive, but it's still a descriptive statement you are making about Japanese people. The narrative about "the West pushing their ideals" is evidentially nonsense. How often do you see all of "the west" agreeing with anything at all? There's this mythology people have about Japanese people like it's some different species, that's either subhuman or these perfect embodiments of artistic passion, and neither is the case. Japanese people are just like everyone else. "Culture" doesn't influence nor does it excuse one's behaviour. Murder is bad regardless of what "culture" you're a part of, as is pedophilia, as is slavery. Any society with these has had or currently had a large group of people from these societies shouting down these systems that allow these things, independent of "the West" (which seems to be everything that isn't exactly Japan, I never see anyone talking about China in this way for example). Culture influences art, it influences manners and language, but it doesn't influence human decency. Also, in the age of the Internet where everyone is connected all the time, everyone is constantly mingling with people all over. I don't like this treatment of Japanese companies and people like they're the divine authority on art, and I don't like the alternative of treating them like they're a bunch of exactly two kinds of people. The outrage at this game originates from Yasuke. After that, people seemed (in my opinion) to look for excuses to legitimise their knee-jerk reaction to seeing Yasuke. There was genuine criticism of the kanji and the architecture, but that isn't what most of the discourse is based on. I do think those things should be fixed. No game or person has ever really been cancelled. A game made by hundreds of people isn't going to be scrapped regardless of its problems. An extremely rich comedian isn't going to go bankrupt because people call out the bigotry of their comments. Cancel Culture is a narrative pushed by right-wing online figures because of left-wing people who have problems with games. I personally didn't see a single person saying to scrap Stellar Blade entirely, I did see lots of people complaining about the oversexualisation and objectification of women and saying they wouldn't buy the game. Admittedly, I don't use Twitter much so other people may have examples I haven't seen and I am open to reception on that. The "voting with your wallet" take is a common one I disagree with. Obviously I won't buy anything I have a problem with, save for fringe cases, but I think making a statement to spread the information and reasons why you shouldn't buy a game is valid. Regarding Hogwart's Legacy, a lot of people were completely unaware of Rowling's bigoted comments and didn't want to buy the game afterwards. I think big movements that shine a light on something a creator has done are positive, because it means someone can make a more informed decision with their money instead of unknowingly supporting someone they don't know they wouldn't support if they understood the full picture. However, everything attached to an IP makes money regardless. Despite my politics, I did actually buy Hogwart's Legacy. I didn't know about her comments at the time, and I regret the purchase I can't take back now that I understand. Finally, as someone obviously engaged in politics, I think political content is much more difficult to make than people give credit for. It requires a lot of learning about really bad things and it gets an extremely high amount of vehement hatred compared to other types. Of course certain political channels on KZbin have boomed, but that's often not purely a product of politics, or its politics based on knee-jerk reactions (think like leafy clones). Extremely long post, but tldr; I'm a fan of your content and I acknowledged my biases above. But I do think some of your points in this video are worth criticising. I don't like the language Americans use to describe Japanese people, voting with your wallet isn't the sole solution, and I think cancel culture is extremely exaggerated online. 💜✌️

[@GamingKo-u4f]

thomas lackley is the reason that broke the camels back but the pricing is still number 1

[@dr.brightside1503]

The only thing I don't agree with is the female being the main character. Now if they did something where like how Eivor name was unisex I would be okay with that. Me personally I don't relate to female leads. I prefer this choice system that they've implemented in the last few games. Anytime I've ever played a game with a female I just don't relate or feel like the story matters as much. That's just as a male perspective I guess. So if you got a choice to play as amount or a female in AC going forward that to me is the right choice at least but they should keep it to fictional characters only.

[@annapatton6025]

Doesn't sound like this games for you then😊

[@kenlee4356]

Great video👍

[@tehsensei]

I'm one of the ones that winces at overly 'woke' stuff, you know, the really on-the-nose virtue signalling stuff etc. Still, I believe those games should exist if people decide to make them. Just like I believe people should be able to make trash movies and shows. That's just the price of freedom in art, baby! As long as games in general don't turn into a propagandist shitshow for either side, I'm alright. I'm not saying Shadows is at the level of what I describe but I still think it should be allowed to exist, and players should decide whether they want to buy the game or not. It peeves me how Ubisoft handled the historicity of the game marketing-wise, and I think that's probably what most people have an issue with, that have an issue with it to begin with. If you get your history from some shady non-historian and don't acknowledge it, that's not great.

[@AlwaysCorrect-ke6tt]

I think there's a lot of people who aren't even willing to hear out others points. Like I can tell you're taking into account the ideas of art theft and the ideas of how AC tackles history but a lot of people can't be bothered to listen past a minute or two. I have no idea why they waste their time on the platform though if they have so little time to hear anyone else out.

[@JoshuaVaughan-pi1sn]

I had a guy tell me he's not trying to force his opinion on others and cancel the game he's just supporting a petition that forces his opinion on others and cancels the game like do any of them ever listen to them selves I even seen one that clicked on a very obvious click bait video saying Ubisoft is f worded but if you actually watch the video it's like um this was made out a whole lot bigger than it actually is it was about that flag incident Ubisoft apologized and then Japan said oh no big it's all good just ask next time but then you see the comments oh Japan should sue blah blah blah and I'm like did any of you even stick around to hear the results or did you just like watch the 1st minute and read the title and that's it🤦

[@teezoowazoo7272]

@@JoshuaVaughan-pi1sn Yeah people like that don't even bother being fair and they're not even worth your time. It's not good faith.

[@笑い男-z9j]

@@JoshuaVaughan-pi1sn That perception is exactly wrong, UBI appropriates flags made by others and reflects it in their work. And you know what they have yet to fix that?

[@JoshuaVaughan-pi1sn]

@@teezoowazoo7272 yeah I'm all for free speech but I'm against forcing others to agree with that speech if people don't like this game that's fine that's there right but there is no need to go as far creating a whole petition to force others to feel the same as you if anything that actually that actually just makes me want to play the game more if this game is truly so bad sales will speak for it why try to cancel it if you don't think it's going to do well honestly it's as if there just admitting they know there opinions won't have any impact so they need to force it just comes off as hateful intent like ok my opinion won't work to hurt Ubisoft so maybe if I force it like that's not the way you might as well just admit you don't even have faith in your own reasoning if you go that far 🤦

[@BigBlackBarret]

@@笑い男-z9jDidn’t they say they were going to with that flag? I thought the flag was just a lazy and dumb mistake where they mistook it for being real.

[@cobalt82342]

im not sure how to feel about this game and its response since im neither black nor asian. Like imagine ur a black kid excited for this game and you see people hating it cuz the main character has the same skin color as you. It would be very hurtful. On the other hand i do recognize the way asian guys are represented in western media and how shafted they get. its kind of a movie trope at this point where the foreigner goes to japan/asia, learns martial arts, and then beats the native people while also sleeping with their women. lol i remember watching an old james bond movie like that with connery. ultimately if japanese people are cool with it then whatever, but if they have qualms then i think it should be listened to since it is their culture after all. I mean if they made an AC game in india without a main indian playable character i would be hurt as well. but i mean like its a game, its not that deep, just enjoy it, we're all here to have a good time and play games. No need for hate. all this nitpicking about historical accuracies just ruins the vibe

[@toa695]

Your Indian example doesn't work, there is a main playable Japanese character in this game. You should rephrase it to "with only a female Indian playable character I would be hurt" for it to be an applicable argument here. Would that still be true?

[@harlannguyen4048]

"Like imagine ur a black kid excited for this game and you see people hating it cuz the main character has the same skin color as you." If Ubisoft really cared about black representation, then they would have made an AC game set in Africa.

[@toa695]

@@harlannguyen4048 Origins. People are so uneducated these days they actually don't understand Egypt is in Africa

[@harlannguyen4048]

@@toa695 Then go further than that. They should make a game set in the heart of Africa.

[@toa695]

@@harlannguyen4048 sure why not. Doesn't mean anything is wrong with Yasuke goober 😊👍

[@vader1481]

i feel more in japan playing fate samurai remanent then i will in shadows thats for sure

[@chadallen7474]

I’m against Ubisoft no Matter anybody says. The disrespect ubi has is crazy stupid. Lying and putting down customers yea can’t get behind that.

[@joeherrera8826]

I am not buying it because I am just sick and tired of Ubi soft and some of the things they do. The pandering does bother me somewhat but on the other hand the pricing. The Ubi soft open world formula is getting tiresome. The predatory microtransctions and the fact that if you buy the game physically you need an internet connection to download the rest of the game. Cancel it makes no sense since they have been working on this game for what five years and we are close to the release date so don't expect them to make changes.

[@dandreharris636]

They are not going to take Yasuke totally out the game because of some signatures lol

[@Mysterious2887]

Nate was in Paris

[@kylefreeman9874]

They're probably not gonna make any changes to the video game itself. This will be the first assassin's creed.That lets you play with a historical figure. It seems cool on paper I Guess so But it loses his core Everything keep on saying it's Historical fiction. When is supposed to be historically? Accurate, not down to T I love history. I was a big history nerd in school learning about ancient time period. I'm black myself y'all use black guy too many times It's little funny He's African.

[@HI-cc6jf]

多分修正しないと思うよ。このまま発売する。日本人はブチ切れてるから、事細かに映像を確認してデジタルの版権がある画像を見つけて版権元に連絡するのを繰り返す。それで炎上するでしょう。

[@Playitforthenarrative]

No. I would just say it's more fictional now than it was.

[@andyowski1515]

I guess it depends how you look at it. The very first game was packed with conspiracy theories and an ancient civilization of beings that humans now worship. My issue is more the architectural stuff and the day-to-day stuff in the game because the world setting always seemed to have more care put into it.

[@BDOGreatSaiyanMan]

Very narrow minded thinking on the petitions. They send a strong message AND make others aware of a situation they might not otherwise had been. How many times have you been made aware of a situation due to a petition exploding? How many times have they gained media coverage? Got through 8 minutes of the vid, thats enough for me, people have limited attention spans. If you want to make an opinion piece with the EXPECTATION people will listen to the entire thing, make it short, sharp & concise. Keep grinding!

[@มดบ้าเกมส์]

maybe just remove this game it would be good because I don't think they are not gonna fix it, admit it they put money on this too much ,and last ubi apology is prove it my point is fix it or not just don't not sell it

[@annapatton6025]

But I want to play it, You cry babys don't make up everybody😂😂

[@มดบ้าเกมส์]

@annapatton6025 well who stop you? I just share my thinking it doesn't mean everything will happen because I am said,why ? You gonna cry 😢because I said I Don't lame game release? Go on sweetheart

[@annapatton6025]

@@มดบ้าเกมส์ I don't lame game, great comeback And I will buy it and so will the hundreds of thousands of other people who want the game. The way you think is, "I think It shouldn't be made because I don't like it". That's one of the most narrow Minded thought Process i've ever heard. That's the same way of thinking that the Hogwarts legacy cry babies were on about. So it sounds like the only one crying is u

[@มดบ้าเกมส์]

@annapatton6025 well look like you really want me to tear up so bad sugar but it fine😉 ,if it fix they problem I would be great because deep down I hope them fix it, but I also knew type of this company it never fix it only double down on it and blame fan say them resist, I Don't say it won't be made because I don't like it,it just shouldn't be made by the way ubi doing right now because said they made a history accurate game and then when gamer finds out they lie and make up a lot of stuff, and they just want to make game for they agenda not for gamers, they moaning and lie that they never said ac are accurate to history, I just enough of lie after lie ,disrespect after disrespect, and all I say it if not fix it don't made it out

[@annapatton6025]

@@มดบ้าเกมส์ I love how you can't even put a sentence together to even be as misogynistic as you're attempting to be. 🤣🤣 come at me when you learn English, sweetheart.

[@TheEzekiel300]

YU HIRAYAMA Japanese Historian *"It seems like there's a lot of talk about Yasuke, a black man who served Oda Nobunaga. There are very few historical documents about him, but there's no doubt that he was a "samurai" who served Nobunaga. Regardless of one's social status, if one's master promoted one to the rank of "samurai," one could become one in medieval (warring states) society. I can say this because the historical documents state that ① Nobunaga gave him a "stipend," ② he was given a house, and ③ he was given a sword. Being given a "stipend" and serving Nobunaga closely fulfills the important requirements of a "contract between master and servant" and "agreement to receive a stipend." It is also important that he was allowed to carry a sword, so he was a two-sworded servant and not a servant (servants were not allowed to carry swords). And if he was given a house, there's no room for doubt. He was probably a slave until Nobunaga took over the missionary slave, but due to the above ① to ③ , he probably became a "samurai" of his own volition. During the Honnoji Incident, Akechi's side did not kill Yasuke because he was an "animal" or "not Japanese", but that was only because Akechi did not recognize Yasuke as a "samurai" (probably because he had discriminatory feelings). At that time, it was common for a master to promote someone of low status to a "samurai". To begin with, there is a good example in Hideyoshi. I try not to answer individual questions, but this is an important one so I will answer it. Even among "samurai", there are some who do not have a surname. In most cases, they are given a surname by their lord (in documents it is written as "receiving a surname"). There is no evidence that Yasuke was given a surname, but it is highly likely that it was planned to give him one in the future. Or maybe he had already been given one, but this cannot be confirmed in historical documents. Since he served Nobunaga for only a little over a year, it may have been a while since he was given a surname (the establishment of a family name)."*

[@edinho2000ful]

No, it can't.

[@papabloodharvest9542]

The whole game would be fixed by simply removing Yasuke and making Naoe the sole protagonist

[@annapatton6025]

Dumb take 😮‍💨

[@papabloodharvest9542]

@@annapatton6025 How so?

[@annapatton6025]

@@papabloodharvest9542 It would take too long, And There are plenty of people that want to play as yasuke. Just because you and a few other loud people want him gone Doesn't mean they're getting rid of him

[@harlannguyen4048]

@@annapatton6025 It would be easier to rework Yasuke into a side character instead. Though considering how far into development this game is, it would still be a monumental task to undertake, even if Ubisoft delayed the game by no more than a year.

[@papabloodharvest9542]

@@annapatton6025 Like who? Literally who wants to play Yasuke? He's the reason Japan is trying to cancel the game lol