DeHavilland Venom

[@Gruntol5]

Makes me very emotional to see a Venom powered by a very early DH Ghost engine (probably built around 1950), still capable of taking off under difficult conditions and thousand of miles from home. Kudos to all concerned - original designers (no doubt long gone), engineers, maintenance chaps and, definitely to brave and skilled pilots of today.

[@TheHorizonhobby]

I'm from switzerland and I'm only 17 years old. My gran father always tell me about this plane. Every time he listen to this, he almost cry for the joy. I think that you have good care for our old planes. Thanks and congratulation ;)

[@Paiadakine]

The engine start is fantastic. I'd love to have a car that started like that!!!

[@ngamo52Nick]

Thanks for posting this. It was great watching this video. New Zealand operated 2 sqns of De Havilland Venoms plus the Venoms older brother the DH Vampire in the 50's and 60's.

[@Gruntol5]

Wow! What a gem of a video - thanks a million! Spectacular start by the black Venom. Very gutsy pilots to take off from a snow covered runway. As I look out of my window here in TN, the ground is covered in snow. Now - where did I put my DH Venom.......... ? Ah yes, now I remember, it was 18" wingspan and powered by a Jetex 50.

[@garyspeed8961]

my dad was an RAF Squadron leader flying them out of Thornhill AFB Zimbabwe... i first memories were of them at Valley AFB Wales

[@Braun30]

I remember in Ambri clearing the snow from the runway by using the hot air from the jet, the front wheel would be jacked up on a trailer and driven round the airbase by a tractor. Must have been the late 1970s or early 1980s.

[@Sheerwater909]

DH Vampire and Venom take my prize as the prettiest jet fighters ever built and used.

[@MrJumper37]

I worked on the Venom in 1955/56 in Stetton[R.N.A.S] then with 894 squadron at Yeovilton and far east on Albion[1960]. Jumper ex air mechanic and C.P.O.

[@3thedward]

So much ice on the runway, such a short runway unbeliviable greetings Ed

[@HptfwO]

I love the start cartouche. :D Wakes up Childhood memories of Hunters and Venoms mass starts on Airbase Dubendorf in Switzerland where I used to watch every free Minute.

[@SmoothWaterSports]

Start Cartridge spins the starter, which if I remember right has lots of mass, which spins the turbine. Kurt maybe able to confirm this.

[@tomshiba51]

Holy kerosene exhaust, it sounds just like the 1966 bat mobile firing up!

[@SmoothWaterSports]

Yes, the start cartridge looks like a huge shotgun shell, but all brass. The clicking you hear prior to start is testing the ignitors so it'll fire off after the start cartridge spins it up. A very cool start, even after seeing it 100 times.

[@SmoothWaterSports]

Jonesy97 - The speed brakes are a separate panel that is hinged so that it deploys both above and beneath the wing. The flaps are conventional split type but also include brackets inside to hold a few spare start cartridges!

[@davem5333]

I dig that starter!!!

[@studioROT]

@WinchesterRanger , during the late seventies and early eighties, several Swiss Venoms MK I and MK IV were used as stationary small artillery targets for the purpose of damage-repair crew training (operation Lindi). Some were badly damaged, but flew again after repair. It should be possible to track these birds down by serial number administration research. I wonder if there are still some flying 'Lindis' around? I assume that their 'battle wounds' do not add to their structural integrity.

[@shitNameAlert]

now this is so cool - just no words for it - I'd love to have a licence to fly one of those!

[@SmoothWaterSports]

The smoke is from the start cartridge. In simple terms it's a huge brass shotgun shell, which is fired to spin the starter. If I remember there are two shells chambered, and then you reload with new cartridges.

[@cliffin22]

Saddening and good at the same time! Too bad that the planes are not in Switzerland anymore. They are history. But good to know that they ( at least back then ) still are flying

[@SmoothWaterSports]

@poodleslayer - The purchasers of the Venom's would always get a supply of start cartridges, with the typical option to purchase more. I am not aware of anyone running out of them, but my assumption would be eventually they will be "reloaded".

[@mytmousemalibu]

Thats a Coffman type cartrage starter used on piston engines, this is a large black powder or cordite type cartrage of much larger size than a shotgun shell. Made to burn for a length of time VS a blast of a coffman

[@jamesosborne5391]

I remember that. I believe his name was Dean Martin. Saw the B-25 several times.

[@SmoothWaterSports]

There's more than one. There's a beautiful red one there as well, secured in it's own hangar.

[@vt325xi]

I think there's still 2 at 6B0. One outside and one inside. The one inside is for sale. I think it comes with a spare engine.

[@Tiramisator]

Very wonderfuel aircraft !!

[@n3njeff]

wow thanks for posting, I remember when dean brought them to VT.

[@iamthefatstig]

Great plane and a unique sound. Nice to see and hear the cartridge start in operation. Makes a modern air compressor start sound bland! Great video, thank you for posting.

[@SmoothWaterSports]

JJ, the engine is spun up by a small geared starter that is powered by a start cartridge. The start cartridge is what causes the smoke.

[@SmoothWaterSports]

Thanks Rockydog. I didn't realize it was Sidney. I can picture the guy (and his daughter) I think purchased it, but I thought he was out near Genesseo.

[@SmoothWaterSports]

xfire, two different pilots left Middlebury in the Venom, but Dean was the only one to bring them back in, if I recall correctly. There was little margin for error, but it was accomplished numerous times. No such thing as a balanced runway.

[@stimpy308]

lol nice 2 see this ..i know them from seeing it in air over 20 years ago ...i grow up at Airbase Dübendorf ;) Swiss.... Venom ..vampire ..hawker Hunter, Mirage 3 RS n alaot more ..now we got FA 18 C ;) lol and still use F5 Tiger... :D

[@fleasternut6471]

One of these planes was lying in a garden as an ornamental piece in Gauteng south Africa. I even climbed around in it much to the amusement of the owner who said he claimed it from someone to offset some outstanding money owed to him..I have pics of it somewhere..

[@vt325xi]

I saw it and another one or maybe even two sitting at Sidney airport in NY. It was rotting on the ramp outdoors.

[@-KISS1228-]

Wow! very cool!

[@nozmoking1]

Amazing - it looks like it would never fly with its fat stubby stabilizers and bulky fuselage. I love the "prime it and torch it" turbine starter.

[@GJones462-2W1]

Was I seeing that right? It looked like on the black jet, the flaps can also be used tilted vertically as a speedbrake or spoiler of some sort?

[@PeterNGloor]

When I was a kid those and the Vampires were all they had. Later the air force bought Hawker Hunters

[@PeanutttGoat]

wow thats awsome

[@JJspitfiremk9]

Can anyone explain to me why there's a fast pressure of smoke like a train. Before it starts ?

[@Varue]

what a nice plane

[@act7733]

I remember being at the Middlebury State Airport in 1969 and watching an incredible airshow put on by Harold Krier. Flying the Super Chipmunk I believe and watching some just incredible flying. Anybody remember that?

[@scottfw7169]

Startup of J-1799 is interesting.

[@SmoothWaterSports]

Rockydog - which one, 202DM or the black/orange one? (Still DM, but don't recall the number)

[@LULEKOSO]

Estas voltas nas cabeçeiras da pista é para abrir trilha na neve para fazer uma decolagem mais segura?

[@NoFrameHell]

+LULEKOSO Não necessáriamente. Como foi escrita na àrea de descrição do vídeo, esse mini aeroporto tem 2500 pés (762 metros) de extensão e mais 500 feet (152 metros) extra de gramado para o norte, onde eles decolam os aviões. Jatos pequenos como o Vampire ou o Venom precisa de pelo menos 800 metros de pista para decolarem com segurança.

[@greggerm]

J-1763 (as seen in the video) was lost in an accident in 1990. (www.warbirdregistry.org/jetregistry/venomregistry/venom-j1763.html) N202DM (aka J-1616) seems to be the one in Sydney, NY (See it via the aerials in Google Maps at N23, or www.warbirdregistry.org/jetregistry/venomregistry/venom-j1616.html)

[@credera]

Crazy What about ASD!!!

[@TheBossssssssssss]

EPIC.

[@warbirdkeith]

LOOKS LIKE DEAN MARTIN!

[@horitson]

yes,gun powder start