Delboy's Garage, Harley ABS brake fluid change.

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Delboy's Garage

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You CAN change part of your brake fluid at home like normal.
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@KainamHD
@KainamHD 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Del, on ABS bikes, the brake fluid travels to the ABS module prior to going to the brakes, else you wouldn't have ABS. If you do not introduce air into the system, you don't need to see the dealer for a fluid service. You will have a small bit of old fluid in the system, however you can mix it with the new fluid if you activate the brakes hard enough to engage ABS. The problem is most people never get on the brakes hard enough to activate ABS. Also if air does get introduced into the brake line, it must go to the dealer to hook it up to their system to electronically engage the ABS module to bleed the air out of the brake/module system.One other note about brake fluid types, DOT 5 (silicone based) is good for 10 years. DOT 4 (glycol based) is good for only 2 as you stated. If you have ABS you will have DOT 4.
@Evgeni432
@Evgeni432 6 жыл бұрын
you are right dude, just what i wanted to say!
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Brian Laraby - you're dead right in all you say my friend, had a long chat with a dealer and they were very helpful - they said the only rule of thumb is never turn the ignition on, and don't, whatever you do, get any air in to it... but the way I see it, for what it costs, you may as well get it done once and for all, even if it was every 4yrs, it would be better than rolling around with the sludge I had in my system... great tip on DOT5 fluid, I think in the future all bikes will use that... thanks for your input buddy, much appreciated!
@maximilianpaech1944
@maximilianpaech1944 6 жыл бұрын
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@stephenchapman5089
@stephenchapman5089 2 ай бұрын
The amount of information that you have given me and used that info has saved me big bucks, thanks a million
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 2 ай бұрын
Most wlecome mate, im glad the videos can help out.
@sexaholic28
@sexaholic28 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Guys. I just recently found your channel, and could not be more grateful for what you do. you now have a loyal follower in Colorado. 3 years ago I "tried" to replace the front fork seals on my 05 Kawasaki z750s and got stuck because the inner assembly bolt was siezed. I put it aside and forgot about it, and it sat there. I found your channel and you guys lit a fire under my ass to fix my bike. so after watching your videos I finished the fork seals, replaced the chain and sprockets, replaced all of the fluids, and got it back up and running a couple of days ago. I took the bike out and took a corner at a speed that was normal for me. I didn't take into account that I was 3 years out of practice, I couldn't lean into the corner enough and ended up running into a curb, and cracking 2 engine covers and snapping the foot peg off. Luckily I was wearing my helmet and gear. I slid about 15 feet on my face, but I came out unharmed. After beating myself up about it I started researching the parts needed to fix it. Your channel, and the confidence you give me allowed me to move past the accident, and see it as an opportunity to learn more about my bike, and fix it up again. Sorry for the long winded story. I just wanted you to know that this channel helped me fix my bike, and helped me move past an accident and order the parts to fix the bike again. You are awesome, and I promise you will be seeing more of me in comments sections from here on out. So take care and ride safe, Brae
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Brae, sorry to hear about your spill my friend, what a shame after all your hard work... am glad the damage was limited, and you weren't hurt... we're so glad that the videos have been able to help you, and that you've been able to use them for inspiration and guidance... it's great to have you aboard, always feel free to ask us if you need a tip, or trick, we're always more than happy to help if we can - keep safe, keeping working on your bike, and keep in touch my friend, all the best, D&Px
@tommorrisey3999
@tommorrisey3999 6 жыл бұрын
Del, the bleeder valve caps get baked dry by the Florida sun, so they: a) are hard to remove, b) often as not, crack when one tries to reseat them and c) have almost invariably become separated from their little collar tethers, so they go hiding as soon as one pops them off with a screwdriver. On Linda’s Dyna and my Road King, I have replaced them all with 7/32” rubber vacuum caps - sold in auto stores to cap off 1/4” vacuum lines. These stay in place nicely, yet remain pliable, can be removed by simply pinching the tops, look tidy on the calipers and, if I drop one, I can buy six for less than $2 at any auto parts store.
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Great solution Tom, I like you're thinking... I've used plastic tyre valve dust caps in the past, just a tiny blob of clear silicone around the base of the bleed valve, they wedge on and stick in place, sealed until you need to get in there - I love these kind of solutions, don't you?!! And btw, don't expect too much sympathy for living in that glorious sunshine lol - would swop you tomorrow !
@alveus8205
@alveus8205 Жыл бұрын
I know I’m late to the party, but it’s not about the money for me. I have an old Harley and many dealerships won’t touch it. I need to service it myself. Thanks for the great videos. They’ve saved me hundreds of dollars. Cheers from 🇨🇦
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 Жыл бұрын
You're most welcome buddy, im glad the videos can help you out. If you have an older Harley, then make sure you use the right fluid.. the older bikes were often DOT5 silicone fluid (available from your HD dealer.!
@metatronmen2431
@metatronmen2431 4 жыл бұрын
You probably will save some accidents out there with videos like this, thank you.
@paulharast1958
@paulharast1958 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip, I got my brakes done about 2 years ago and I am going to have to check the fluid to see how it looks. The dog sound pretty cool in the background. You should have kept filming🤔 Penny and You have a safe ride and a wonderful weekend or week because I don't know what day it is yet on your side of the world.God Bless
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, bless him, our neighbours dog is a proper comedian, he kicks of yodeling and he goes on for ages - it isn't that I mind the sound, it's just it cracks you up and you can't concentrate! I swear to god, it's some weird language I've never heard... definitely words in there somewhere !!
@geoffozevans4500
@geoffozevans4500 6 жыл бұрын
Cracking video Del, another one for my folder "Softail Stuff ", lovely weather out there, was out yesterday, geez there's some loonies on the road. Off to Swansea on Wed for the spinal fusion, unless cancelled, yahoo👍😎
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Geoff, this really is an emergency fix if you can't get to the dealer, it's not the 'proper' way to do it - good luck with the op, fingers crossed for you ,,, D&Px
@garya3056
@garya3056 6 жыл бұрын
Best of luck, Geoff.
@geoffozevans4500
@geoffozevans4500 6 жыл бұрын
Gary A Many thanks Gary
@geoffozevans4500
@geoffozevans4500 6 жыл бұрын
Moonfleet41 I am looking forward to the op, fed up of taking pills etc, any benefit however small will be good. Lovely weather over the weekend guys, hope you got out & about x
@williamcormier1553
@williamcormier1553 4 жыл бұрын
dodging the rain here in the states.....last thing on the list is the brake bleed on the fld....I cracked the nipples with a ratchet and just snugged them up....just waiting for dry weather....I will be using a diy auto bleeder where the tube will be submerged in a bottle removing any chance of air getting sucked back into the system.
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 4 жыл бұрын
Hi William, Glad to hear you've got it under control, Lets all hope this current crisis gets behind us soon abd we can all get out for a ride in the sunshine.. Keep safe and thank you for your support. Del.
@MotoMirius
@MotoMirius 6 жыл бұрын
That was one of the best brake videos I've seen. Great camera work and explanations. Timely reminder that the commuter Bandit is due for this job. Skal Del.
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Ayup Dave, you're dead right mate, it's the periodicals that always get neglected.. brake fluid and fork oil are the worst two offended... get stuck in mate, it'll be all the better for it...! And thanks for your kind words, it's much appreciated - see ya soon, D&Px
@Cueballproductions1149
@Cueballproductions1149 6 жыл бұрын
Out take was funny added this to the dels playlist for future keep em coming
@rsbharley4766
@rsbharley4766 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video Del, with good advice. This will help put a lot of people on the right track for years to come. Penny and you have a great Sunday. Cheers
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy, it's just a little emergency housekeeping, in case your stuck and can't get it changed fully by the dealer !
@PkwyDrive13
@PkwyDrive13 4 жыл бұрын
What about changing the brake line from master to the ABS block? How would I go about that without completely draining the fluid
@awedihdaira2786
@awedihdaira2786 3 жыл бұрын
Hi mate sorry keep asking questions 😫 got little problem here , I've purchased 2012 road king abs & front brake stiff for first 20second ride & after that work fine but the abs light is on. Now I recently changed the front wheel with 21" wheel with abs bearing come on it , I've cleaned the abs bearing sensor already , bleed both brake calipers & still does it 😵 could this be a faulty abs bearing ? I can't think anything else what made those first 10-20 seconds stiffness front brake ... Thanks 🙏🏻
@cmsgtgoose6334
@cmsgtgoose6334 5 жыл бұрын
I am so grateful for your videos.
@d.mar.2624
@d.mar.2624 2 жыл бұрын
Delboy, thanks for uploading all these great videos. I've been learning from you for a long time. From sportster maintenance to plastic welding. My question here, i recently bled the brake fluid on my 17 Ultra Limited. The front brake feels good and tight but at slow maneuvering moving the bike in the driveway, the front brake lever feels like it falls flat to the handlebar. I let it go and pull the lever again and it feels fine. Good and tight. Any ideas why it does that? I know that's not how it's supposed to feel. Thanks in advanced.
@kevinwaterman1
@kevinwaterman1 6 жыл бұрын
Good video. When you take it to dealer you should do video of fluid change there and show what the fluid looks like when all of it is out of the lines.
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
I've asked the question at my dealership once or twice, but many people are not comfortable appearing on video in their working day job, and I don't blame them... be good to see it though, you're right !
@buffordv8
@buffordv8 Жыл бұрын
Hi i have double disc on front on my FXDF which would be the most comfortable procedure
@mike-on-the-bike
@mike-on-the-bike 2 жыл бұрын
Hello del, can I ask you....when I was cleaning my front brake calipers one of the pistons popped out. I pushed it back in but some of the fluid came came out and my brake does not work now. Do I have to bleed the brakes or just filling it up is enough? Thanks
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a serious problem mate, you may have captured a tiny bit of air behind the piston, so just bleed them through and they should be fine... good chance to change the fluid whilst you're at it!
@harrypalmer7169
@harrypalmer7169 6 жыл бұрын
That was not a dog crying Del, that was the sound of a man crying over his Harley service bill.
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
haha now tea on laptop thank you lol!
@emiliomed
@emiliomed 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, if the front brake line was replaced by new one how to do the bleeding with lots of air in the system? (Upper and lower hoses + manifold block)
@rolanddumas407
@rolanddumas407 2 жыл бұрын
The best gift one can give is knowledge and expertise with honesty. Thank you for your example. God’s Speed.
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Roland, I'm glad you enjoyed the video and really appreciate your kind feedback.!
@blujack100
@blujack100 5 жыл бұрын
Is this procedure the same if changing out the brake cable from lever to manifold on a 2019 HD sport glide. Thanks
@gabrielfernandez566
@gabrielfernandez566 3 жыл бұрын
Can I do this procedure if I’m installing longer brake lines which will require me to remove them completely? Install apes on my deluxe
@steven-vn9ui
@steven-vn9ui 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, loved the outtake Del. I recently purchased a handheld vacuum pump, just a cheap one form ebay. It came in a red plastic hard case and contains fittings, tubes and a catch pot. Cost less than £12.00 and it would be even easier then the time honoured method to just pull the fluid through. It has a gauge as well so can be used for fault finding on old school systems which is quite cool. I have a KTM 390 with ABS so I shall heed your warning when I come to do mine soon. ps might be worth mentioning for newer guys not to shake the new fluid bottle - it's a natural instinct but aerates the fluid. Thanks again!
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Steven, great little bike that KTM, perfect for real time streetfighting, you could lose anything round London on one of those, and great tip on not shaking the bottle !
@Winterwolf1975
@Winterwolf1975 6 жыл бұрын
Got a link to it mate? My abs KTM 990 could do with a bleed as well
@steven-vn9ui
@steven-vn9ui 6 жыл бұрын
Ben Finley m.ebay.co.uk/itm/HAND-VACUUM-PUMP-HELD-BRAKE-BLEEDER-TESTER-SET-BLEED-CAR-MOTORBIKE-BLEEDING-RB/183173298364?epid=11017883198&hash=item2aa5fab8bc:g:O7oAAOSwYwdazZjy Nice little kit mate
@CarlRecktenwaldJr
@CarlRecktenwaldJr 6 жыл бұрын
There are a few options for diy abs bleed. Snap on and daytona sell options to bleed abs.
@craigslistofprojects3451
@craigslistofprojects3451 6 жыл бұрын
Best tutorials on you tube, great work.
@alexclark9457
@alexclark9457 Жыл бұрын
Hi!! Great video! I’m looking at changing my handlebars, meaning I need longer brake lines. Dealer is quoting a lot of money to change them so; I’d like to do it myself. Only trouble is I’m not sure if I was to do this I’d introduce air to the system by removing the line. What are your thoughts on this? Any recommendations? Thanks.
@alexclark9457
@alexclark9457 Жыл бұрын
PS: I have a 2016 sportster. Thanks.
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Alex, of course fitting new hoses will mean re-purging the dry system.. just remind me, is it an ABS bike.?
@alexclark9457
@alexclark9457 Жыл бұрын
@@Moonfleet41 yes, it is. Sounding like I may have to bite the bullet then. Thanks for the reply!
@ianlawrie919
@ianlawrie919 6 жыл бұрын
Splendid advice as always Mr Delboy. However I am left somewhat perturbed having recently bled front, rear & clutch cylinders on zzr abs not realising the relevance of draining the ABS unit. On top of which, I replaced the old DOT4 with synthetic DOT5. I've done a couple of tonnes since and there seems to be the usual improvement. The silicone based DOT5 floats on DOT4 leaving me thinking it would have found it's way into all crevices, hope this isn't a silly billy fete a complit. Yours I
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Ian...I just need to ask to be sure mate.. Did you mix the purple DOT5 with your old DOT 4 then..? Hope you didnt... do you mean you used DOT5.1?..
@ianlawrie919
@ianlawrie919 6 жыл бұрын
Yes that's just what I did. Whoops!
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry I must ask again mate... you've used purple DOT5 synthetic fluid and tried to mix it with DOT4?? The reason this is a problem is because it doesn't mix, and it doesn't just sit separately on top either, eventually it will form a gel in side the system and jam everything up, am afraid the bad news (if this is what you've actually done) is take the bike to the dealer and have the full system washed out with propyl-alcohol and re-filled with a single fluid, one or the other... you must never mix these two together and they may have to strip the system completely and wash the internal parts in alcohol... and if it's already formed a gel and gone solid, you may need to replace brake hoses and other internals, so you could be in for some big bills mate - sorry it's bad news, but it's well known, that that's a big no-no... those fluids must never be mixed... my best suggestion would be to take it to the dealer, explain what you've done and see what they say... am sure they will be able to sort it out, but talk to them about what it's gonna cost, sorry it's bad news fellah... good luck with it, let us know how you get on mate...
@ianlawrie919
@ianlawrie919 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that Squire, Shall keep you informed.
@madeleinegillett5892
@madeleinegillett5892 5 жыл бұрын
Best way to DIY bleed abs is to bleed like this first and then set off the abs while riding to circulate the fluid through the valves, then bleed again. Iffy but does the trick to get the fluid that's trapped in the other chambers
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 5 жыл бұрын
With every respect Madeleine, I would never condone the process of deliberately trying to lock your brakes up, it could still be dangerous and I doubt very much whether it affects any air in the system anyway, but if it works for you, then by all means, that's your choice... personally, I would never do it. Be Safe.
@madeleinegillett5892
@madeleinegillett5892 5 жыл бұрын
@@Moonfleet41 in all fairness I think most bikers would run away at the proposition of deliberately locking up their brakes. However it could be done safely on the rear if the bike was up on stands securely, traction control off and then the rear brake jammed down with the clutch then pulled in to prevent stalling. Doesnt help for the front but at least for the rear. In reality, there isn't likely to be any air caught in the abs unit anyway so to any rising to the highest point in the braking system, not to mention the fact that unless you were to lock up your brakes in the first place, the air wouldn't circulate through due to the valves being shut tight in the unit. The only reason for an abs flush is just for old fluid but seeing as it wouldn't have had the opportunity to absorb water either, being in sealed chambers, it wouldn't really matter. The quantity of brake fluid would be so small compared to the lines and reservoirs that it wouldn't really be worth a dealer visit
@KemDIY
@KemDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid. Subscribed! Quick question; if you did suck out too much fluid from the master, and there is an air bubble now. Can’t you bleed it out? Or do you need to do the “bench bleeding” of the master. That’s the only thing that confuses me about the master cylinder.
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 4 жыл бұрын
If you go too low, and empty the reservoir, even if you pump one or two inches down the line.. its no problem... top up the reservoir and just work the lever in and out a tiny amount, (no more then an inch of movement), not enough to pump the air down the line, but enough to "wiggle" the piston in the master cylinder back and forth which will express the bubbles out into the fluid...and you'll have a solid line again..
@KemDIY
@KemDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Moonfleet41 awesome thanks!!!
@johanw8157
@johanw8157 5 жыл бұрын
monkey see, monkey do. But if monkey learns.. then monkey can improve.. You make the best tutorials on youtube, thanks alot!
@stephenwilliams1824
@stephenwilliams1824 7 ай бұрын
The electrical dongle to service / flush out the abs pump costs approx $600 in the US from the likes of JP Cycle’s or Dennis Kerr.
@prostreetgsxr
@prostreetgsxr 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! I am rebuilding the calipers on my street glide with ABS. I emptied the master cylinder out and the lines going to the calipers. Do you think I will have any trouble getting the air out of the system when I put it back together?.
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 4 жыл бұрын
If it's ABS, then yes you will... it can't be done manually, it will need to be hooked up to an ABS pump, and your dealer has these, in order to prime the system.
@prostreetgsxr
@prostreetgsxr 4 жыл бұрын
Delboy's Garage ok thanks
@prostreetgsxr
@prostreetgsxr 4 жыл бұрын
Delboy's Garage just an update. I finished powder coating my calipers today and put them back on the bike. I bled both calipers with a Mityvac and they work fine and I didn’t have to go to the dealer. Somebody told me if I would have turned the ignition switch on while the lines were loose then I would have to go to the dealer to have them use their special machine. Either way I’m glad I was able to do it myself.
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 4 жыл бұрын
@@prostreetgsxr Well done, looks like you got away with it, it could be the MityVac that helped, certainly bleeding a dry system by hand can be a nightmare with ABS! So good trick, may get myself one! Ride safe and have a good weekend mate.
@prostreetgsxr
@prostreetgsxr 4 жыл бұрын
Delboy's Garage Thanks you too!
@AllanNathanson
@AllanNathanson 6 жыл бұрын
Do you also need to bleed the rear brakes? Same/similar procedure? Same cautions w/ABS?
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Allan, this was purely a get out of trouble trick to get rid of the horrible sludge, the right way is always, with ABS bikes, to take them to the dealer and have them do it fully...
@bufftankington7349
@bufftankington7349 5 жыл бұрын
So another question: I blead my brakes last year and put the new fluid in. I'll be honest I could barley tell the difference between the old and the new so I probably "wasted" some money on that. But here's the question: Since the old fluid looked so fresh do I even need to bother about taking my bike to a dealer and blead the abs-pump ?
@billcarson1966
@billcarson1966 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you do. Color isn't always indicative of the need to change. The most common problem is the moisture content level. You could have beautiful fluid color and still have 3% or higher moisture levels, which means poor brake performance/danger. Change fluid every two years and check the moisture level at least once a year. My last change I did (fluid only 11 months old) had over 3% moisture because rubber gasket was not maintaining a proper seal. I replaced the cylinder cover and gasket, problem solved.
@christopherdevries1969
@christopherdevries1969 6 жыл бұрын
Very Handy video. Thanks ! My bike is from '01 and i bet you a dollar the fluid is blacker than yours. :-)
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
I don't doubt it my friend, nothing surprises me with periodical fluids !
@softailfun
@softailfun 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris. You don't know me mate, but I used to deal with a family business called de Vries in Holland. Used to have a Vauxhall dealership I think, but I know them for running a Private Ambulance service. Any connection, just interested. Hope you don't mind me asking. Cheers mate and RSMB
@rezam6436
@rezam6436 4 жыл бұрын
Really loved your presentation bro!🤘🤘
@smokingviper1
@smokingviper1 6 жыл бұрын
Hi delboy quick question, so done an oil change and sorted a new sump out after garage killed other 1... oil in, start her up and there's coolant coming out of the header/midpipe connection, i had had the coolant reserve tank at a height to get it out the way, so has there just been to much coolant going in? Just asking coz I'm not sure, the liquid has a taste so dont think its condensation
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Elliott, really hard to diagnose that, when you say you have this fluid coming out, how much are we talking?? Is it pouring out?? Or just a residue blowing out like condensation?? And can you be sure exactly what pipe you mean by 'header/midpipe'??
@smokingviper1
@smokingviper1 6 жыл бұрын
Moonfleet41 its dripping out but like making a nice puddle, it may be just condensation and im just overthinking it
@smokingviper1
@smokingviper1 6 жыл бұрын
And where the midpipe fits to i mean to say exhaust manifold
4 жыл бұрын
May I ask, would this the same as for twin disc brakes . Having to do one side at a time.
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, same procedure, and I generally do the left caliper first as it's furthest from the master cylinder.
@greenmeeni
@greenmeeni 6 жыл бұрын
Hi dell you did not mention the back brake is ok to bleed the same way with the abs thanks mate good video
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
OK, it's the same principle, but I was purely showing one simple thing... which was that you can bleed an ABS bike partially, as long as you don't get any air in, and don't turn the ignition on... but it's purely an emergency measure if you can't get to the dealer and it's as bad and horrendous as mine was... I'll be booking mine in next week!
@leandrofelix8595
@leandrofelix8595 6 жыл бұрын
Very good ! The dog crying 😂
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
He's a proper comedian aye?! A big dopey labrador who loves to voice his opinion !
@geoffhalsey2184
@geoffhalsey2184 6 жыл бұрын
Brake fluid not done in the service, I wonder how many other makes that applies to? Good advice, as ever.
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Too right mate, periodicals are the most commonly neglected service procedure...
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Too right mate, periodicals are the most commonly neglected service procedure...
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Too right mate, periodicals are the most commonly neglected service procedure...
@jessicadiesel3193
@jessicadiesel3193 Жыл бұрын
Also can I go from 3&4 to DOT 5 silicone on my 2021 Harley Davison trike with ABS system, thanks
@theosid5099
@theosid5099 4 жыл бұрын
by far the best tutorials
@tonymartin3780
@tonymartin3780 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Mate great tip .My heritage 2004 stated DOT 5 ,looked like it had never been changed very black and sludge in the bottom of the master cylinder, this goes for the rear one as well (no ABS) would you believe the bikes been serviced by HD and a specialist , personally I will change it every two years as fluid doesn't cost a lot and a half hour job , take care D&P
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly that mate, this is something that I've always felt is a fatal flaw in Harley's system for servicing, or at least the marketing of their servicing - they effectively separate these periodical procedures away from the mileage focused procedures, and most people will take their bike to the dealer at 5k and 10k and pay a fixed price for a 5k or 10k service... the dealer doesn't pro-actively ask the customer if they'd like the periodicals done, they just do what they're asked to do - on the other hand, if they do ask, some cynical owners will see they are just trying to make more money by "selling more services" - it's the same with fork oil, I reckon on most bikes, not just Harleys, fork oil and brake fluid doesn't get changed much shy of 6-10yrs... my bike's a 2012 Harley and that's clearly the first time it's ever had brake fluid, and yet it has a full main dealer service history - not clever aye! It should be tucked in to the 10k service as an 'optional', depending on the calendar and when it was last done... chat soon mate, hope the show went well! D&Px
@tonymartin3780
@tonymartin3780 6 жыл бұрын
Moonfleet41 , second job done on the heritage , the bikes done 29k and the damping was poor , a quick look no marks on the drain screws so either a good fitting screwdriver or the oil has never been changed It was as black as engine oil also replaced the top rubbers as they were showing signs of cracking .New medium grade oil Now it has good damping and much improved, then the full oil purge from your video thanks again mate
@olSta1948
@olSta1948 4 жыл бұрын
Underneath the ABS Module is the Reservoir for the rear Breaks. How can I reach the little phillipshead screw. On my 2012 Dyna this is Hard to reach. Any hints ?
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 4 жыл бұрын
The trick i use for any philips screw that has no space above it, is to take a loose 'slip-in' screw driver bit (the hex kind that go into a bit driver).. press it down into the screw with my finger, and turn it with an 8mm spanner... works every time.!
@apf14378
@apf14378 6 жыл бұрын
Will the new fluid get mixed with the old fluid still in the abs part of the brake line? In that case frecuent changes would make unnecessary to go to the dealer. You could check the fluid color in some months to see if it mixed up
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
It would mix, eventually, but it's not the right thing to do... even constant partial changing will never change all of it, and it does deteriorate with age, so just get it changed when you can afford it ... it's not like it's often, being every 2yrs, if you have DOT5 fluid however, that lasts a lot longer, up to 10yrs I hear... but it doesn't mix with anything else... so you can't change over to it...
@kealaboy808
@kealaboy808 5 жыл бұрын
Im putting 12" Ape hangers on my 2016 breakout so I would have to change out and install longer brake line. Do i bleed it the same way? Does it affect the ABS?
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 5 жыл бұрын
If you're changing brake lines mate, you'll have to bleed them, am not sure on the Breakout system, so check with your dealer whether you need to plug the system in to prime it... on some bikes you can bleed up new hoses as long as you don't switch the ignition on and activate the ABS pump, but am not sure on your Breakout how your system is set up... they'll give you the best advice.
@breeze-wd1xn
@breeze-wd1xn 5 жыл бұрын
When I did mine,I reverse bled the new line by using a large syringe full of new brake fluid.Hooked it to the bleeder on the caliper,sucked the master cylinder dry,and pushed the new fluid through to the master cylinder.keep repeating until no bubbles come out. This keeps air from being pushed through the abs module. worked good for me.
@thedigitalemotion
@thedigitalemotion 6 жыл бұрын
Del Boy, can I ask your advise? First of all I just found your channel and i'm pleased I have, I've binge watched a ton of your videos yesterday and learnt a lot! I bought a new 2009 HD Nightster 1200N (Sporty) back in the day but due to some life circumstances I wasn't able to ride it much and its only done 600 miles from new. I love the ole girl and am at a point where I can start to ride again. I charged a yellow Moto Batt thats about a year old (old Harley one died as they do) and got it started the other day, still sounds sweet but the cranking is quite slow like the battery is struggling even though it seems fully charged? Oxford optimiser is saying its 12.5V. Any ideas? Secondly, do you think I should change the oil (or any other fluids) before I ride as its just been sat there with the odd turnover every now and then for years? Thanks for your help, keep up the great videos!
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve... Sorry not to reply sooner, i only just got home and started tackling the days emails... Ok, with your Sporty, it would be wise to give it a monstrous Birthday of Birthdays...Change every possible fluid, Engine Gearbox and Primary oils, brake fluids front and rear, and also the fork oil too.. They are all 9 years old, and have a shelf life of more like two or three... so i'd get that done before you do anything else... also the fuel in the tank.. if its been in there for more than 6 months, then syphon it all out, and fill the tank with clean fresh fuel... then thats all done. Then take a good close look at the tyres, inspect for any micro cracks in the deep grooves of the treads, and any cracking on the side walls... they'll probably be ok, but better to be sure.. Then once its all ready.. fire it up and got for a gentle ride.. build up the amount or speed and work you put the bike through, and be conscious all the way to feel and look out for anything that doesn't feel right... Thats the usual procedure for re-activating a long term laid up bike.. Let us know how it goes and have fun.. Thank you for the kind comments, its great to have you aboard my friend.. Take care. Del.
@thedigitalemotion
@thedigitalemotion 6 жыл бұрын
Moonfleet41 Thanks so much for the reply Del, that’s a massive help for me to hear your expertise and I will do exactly that and get everything refreshed and changed out. Really appreciate the advice, keep up the great work and I looked forward to all future videos. All the best, Steve.
@fader2701
@fader2701 6 жыл бұрын
have you ever used one of the hand pumped vac (one mad brake bleeder kits)?
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
No I haven't mate, I've never felt the need for one, just a plastic tube and a spanner does for me, solid bleed every time...
@134493
@134493 5 жыл бұрын
Hi i spilled brake fluid on my front tire while changing the fluid . The hose slipped off the bleed nipple. Ive washed the tire down twice with car detergent and power washed off but the tire feels kinda slippery now. Is it safe to ride would you think.
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 5 жыл бұрын
Hi there... Brake fluid is harmless to the rubber components inside your braking system, not only the hoses (even braided steel hoses are rubber on the inside), but also the critical seals inside the master cylinder and calipers.... so its a given that it probably wont do any harm to the tyre... but if there is any residue on there, then obviously it is slippery, so do what you can to get it all off now matter what... if you're in any doubt, then the only guarantee you have is to replace it buddy..!
@134493
@134493 5 жыл бұрын
@@Moonfleet41 many thanks for that. I was a bit nervous that the front end would go out from under me in a corner . I think I'll get a new tyre anyway just for piece of mind anyway. The old one is coming pretty close to the end . Love your videos it's a credit to you. I've also got a bit of a weeping coming from a seal either from inner primary or the shaft from the transmission so I must check out you videos to see have you anything on this problem. Thanks again.
@arieldelagarza7826
@arieldelagarza7826 Жыл бұрын
What does it mean when my brake paddle stays down It does not come back up on its own Can it be the brake fluid?
@softailfun
@softailfun 6 жыл бұрын
ABS, ..... ABS.... Hmmm that sits right up there with that other new fangled idea erm...... Oh yea..... Injection 😂😂. Too old school here mate. As for the rest of the vid....... Well that was a HOWL! ..... I'll get my coat!
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Ayup brother, the march of time aye?! ... how quickly we've also forgotten kick starts and foot clutches with a jockey shift..( and no a jockey shift doesn't mean moving the brooch and earrings for increased rider comfort!)...
@softailfun
@softailfun 6 жыл бұрын
Curiously, been looking at kickers for the Harley..... but the price of the good ones... OMG! one day maybe
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Here you go mate, found you one..! www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STARTING-HANDLE-STATIONARY-ENGINE-TRACTOR-CEMENT-MIXER/112943576434?hash=item1a4bf63572:g:eywAAOSwTuJYoLQs
@softailfun
@softailfun 6 жыл бұрын
aaaahhahahaha Bastard. erm.... would it fit? lmao
@scrappy1984
@scrappy1984 5 жыл бұрын
You don’t need the stealer lol reverse bleed with a syringe and 3/16th hose and your good to go
@jimmyjimjim3054
@jimmyjimjim3054 2 жыл бұрын
I just rebuilt a leaky front Caliper on my 2010 Superglide. I can't, for the life of me, get get it to fully bleed out. I think air is trapped in the "inside" half of the Caliper. I see there is only one channel at the top for fluid transfer when applying the breaks. How do i get the air out?
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 2 жыл бұрын
Trapped air can be a ballache Jim.. try binding the lever in to the handlebar with medium force, overnight, then bleed it through again in the morning,, that usually works.!
@jimmyjimjim3054
@jimmyjimjim3054 2 жыл бұрын
@@Moonfleet41 Great thanks for taking the time! I'll try that.
@MrRajkarthi
@MrRajkarthi Жыл бұрын
What is the size of the drain hose
@jackzuranski852
@jackzuranski852 3 жыл бұрын
Great Tip thanks JEZ
@Bikertyke
@Bikertyke 6 жыл бұрын
I bought an Hornet with combined ABS. I've stripped and cleaned pistons and replaced pads. But dare not change the fluid. Haynes manual says just bleed using a vacuum bleeder. But I'd rather let dealer do that
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Good call, the Honda linked system is tricky to bleed, it'll be a wise investment..
@raymondfettes6260
@raymondfettes6260 6 жыл бұрын
would you use a suction pump when changing brake fluid
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
They're a great tool buddy, essential for cars, unless you have a partner to help, but never used one for a bike... always seems to work ok by hand !
@jerryhess5564
@jerryhess5564 Жыл бұрын
The brake fluid is pulled through the ABS on its way to the caliper. FYI
@colinsharp1314
@colinsharp1314 6 жыл бұрын
Great advice del and top job again mate cheers Colin
@MrKamilof4
@MrKamilof4 9 ай бұрын
Great job Ty!!
@garya3056
@garya3056 6 жыл бұрын
Haha loved the dog off camera...! Seriously though, Del, this was interesting to me given that I thought I couldn’t do any part of a brake fluid change on my now sold but not forgotten ABS Ducati. Who knew? My Fatboy is sans ABS, so am proper old school there. Btw, love the paint scheme on the Dyna! And how old was that fluid exactly? Cheers. 🏍🏍👍🏻
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Gary, I'd give anything to be able to strip out this ABS, unless you ride in ice, you're hardly ever likely to light the system up in anger, but it's so woven in to the wiring and systems of the bike, it's there forever... so you're stuck with a £90 bill every 2yrs... ho hum! I think this fluid was, clearly, original by the state of it, the bike is 2012, so 6yrs old is about right...!
@garya3056
@garya3056 6 жыл бұрын
Moonfleet41 I see... I wonder if there’s info on the net about a way to de-ABS a bike. Will look...
@johnmccallum8487
@johnmccallum8487 6 жыл бұрын
Good vid Delboy
@kritterhillvideos9221
@kritterhillvideos9221 3 жыл бұрын
Do I have to drain my fluid to change my brake bleeder?
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 3 жыл бұрын
No mate, just swop it over and it should be fine, you may want to give it a little bleed through if you loose a little fluid during the process.
@kritterhillvideos9221
@kritterhillvideos9221 3 жыл бұрын
@@Moonfleet41 Thanks man!
@BIG-K
@BIG-K 6 жыл бұрын
Very helpful - nicely explained. 👍
@Loft54
@Loft54 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, not done on mine. 10,000 miles!
@479ktm
@479ktm 5 жыл бұрын
isn't that the same procedure to bled brake fluid on system without ABS?
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it is, exactly the same, and works just as well.. Good luck with it..
@jaimielibbi1
@jaimielibbi1 6 жыл бұрын
What size tube is needed Del
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
That tube i have is 5mm ID buddy..!
@suzuki750stu
@suzuki750stu 6 жыл бұрын
Great video buddy 🤘🤘
@ubslo5405
@ubslo5405 6 жыл бұрын
Master cylinder to ABS modulator and from there to caliper. Otherwise it couldn't work! The black gunge is the inside of your brake lines eroding and there was no point in leaving any of it in your cylinder because you just pumped it through your ABS system.
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
It doesn't go through the module if the ignition is switched off mate, all you'll end up changing is the bit between the master cylinder and the caliper, this is only a temporary fix to get rid of that awful fluid till I can get the bike to the dealership and have the whole system pumped through fully... the reason I loaded this up was we have a lot of Harley owning viewers in countries where dealerships can be hundreds of miles away, like India and South America...
@ubslo5405
@ubslo5405 6 жыл бұрын
That's clever stuff Del is there a tiny switch at the splitter to stop it bypassing the ABS when the ignition is on?
@maximilianpaech1944
@maximilianpaech1944 6 жыл бұрын
The ABS Valves are always open (they will close if the ABS is activated), so the way of the oil is from the Master Cylinder through the ABS Modul to the Brakes !
@ThumperXT
@ThumperXT 6 жыл бұрын
Cool vid matey
@springy-2112
@springy-2112 6 жыл бұрын
Good job brother ☮❤
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Springy me duck... just a bit of housekeeping aye !
@baccas66
@baccas66 6 жыл бұрын
Another essential how to video. That brake fluid was rank! If you have cleaned your brake calipers and pistons, and still your bike's brakes are dragging. A fluid change and brake bleed often rectifies the problem. Clean, bleed and fluid change your own bike's brakes. Save yourself a few quid, and possibly your own life...
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more buddy, it's not ideal to do this at home, it should really be taken to the dealer and done fully, but it's better at least, then neglecting it all together...
@martinhaskell376
@martinhaskell376 6 жыл бұрын
That's a nice bike Del...
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate, you wanna get yourself one !
@martinhaskell376
@martinhaskell376 6 жыл бұрын
Have you attached the back end of your ABS cover with a cable tie?
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Yes Mate... which is why its still there and not in a ditch somewhere like they all end up...! daftest design ever aye..! they fall off with the power of thought..!
@tinks43
@tinks43 6 жыл бұрын
(P) Was black like the Bonnies clutch reservoir when I did it a while back. Def worth the change 👍🏻 Owwwww
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Too right mate, it's like fork oil, it only gets done when it's way over due...!
@albertodiaz6164
@albertodiaz6164 2 жыл бұрын
Quick question for anyone that can help. If i buy a black master cylinder to replace my chrome one. Obviously when the new one is on the handlebar it will be empty. But when i go to bleed it should i just top it off before i start bleeding? I dont get how i go about with a new one ,if they recommend not to go below those holes to not get air in the line.but the new one is bone dry... super confused
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 2 жыл бұрын
That's an easy upgrade Alberto... if you take off the banjo union and clip it to the bar upright, then change out the master cylinder, re-connect the banjo union to the new one, and you will have fluid, obviously, right to the top of that hose... so top off the new reservoir with fluid and just gently squeeze the lever in and out by maybe 1/2", this will wiggle the internal piston backwards and forwards and coax the fluid to drop down and any air bubbles to work their way out... as you do this you'll see the air bubbles pop up in to the fluid, it may take a few minutes, but when the bubbles have stopped, you should have a solid lever... put the cap on and then tie the lever under pressure in towards the bar overnight and you'll have a rock solid brake lever in the morning, no need to bleed the system through... just as a safety measure, check your lever is solid and the brakes are locking nicely before you venture out on the road. Good luck.
@albertodiaz6164
@albertodiaz6164 2 жыл бұрын
@@Moonfleet41 thanks for the help ,your the man!
@albertodiaz6164
@albertodiaz6164 2 жыл бұрын
@@Moonfleet41 hey another question Del,does that process you described ,still apply if i have abs brakes
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 2 жыл бұрын
@@albertodiaz6164 Yes Alberto, makes no difference, you're not pumping the system through, just filling an empty reservoir and 'burping' the air out the top.
@albertodiaz6164
@albertodiaz6164 2 жыл бұрын
@@Moonfleet41 ey del,here again. I just replaced the master cylinder. Wen burping the system i saw the bubbles and then they stopped after a few minutes. I didnt feel it really stiff..definitely not loosey goosey like the very first pump.but does the overnight trick really do its job? And stiffen it up alot ?
@alexdevereux2291
@alexdevereux2291 6 жыл бұрын
Can u do a video on bleeding brakes
@BipityBopity93
@BipityBopity93 2 жыл бұрын
Man it’s 2022 and they were going to charge me $400 to add a new brake line which involves, flushing brake line, and adding new brake line. So dumb. I’m doing it myself.
@sctpc
@sctpc 6 жыл бұрын
I just looked at mine it looks like off milk, the bike has sat n my garage for the last 11 months.
@bobgwinn5091
@bobgwinn5091 6 жыл бұрын
cool. did not know they can only do it.... i do not like them touching my bike. i do not think i have abs. would be good to check tho eh ty
@bobgwinn5091
@bobgwinn5091 6 жыл бұрын
nope checked manual says does not need replaced under normal wear. but i know it gets old it changes. i have the 2015 street. newer models i think you may have to take in. great subject
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Bob, it's not expensive enough to side step, only £89 sterling for a full change, and it's once every 2yrs, so you can spread the cost! Great to hear from you....
@canalmileduque
@canalmileduque 6 жыл бұрын
Muito legal! Parabéns!
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you , you are most welcome Sir !
@akasa231
@akasa231 6 жыл бұрын
The rear brake reservoir is a bitch to get at on my switchback, exhaust and mounting bracket off job, I let an independent Harley shop do it all... much cheaper...!
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
You're dead right mate, it's the same on my Switchback, stupidest damn design I ever saw and one day in the future I think that's a little design faux pas that is ripe for modification - you can put a Softail reservoir up front with the foot peg and eliminate the expense - at £89 for a full brake fluid change ain't a lot of money, so it's not the end of the world!
@fader2701
@fader2701 6 жыл бұрын
lol!! that sound
@jeremyneufeld6541
@jeremyneufeld6541 2 жыл бұрын
And if replacing a new brake for taller bars, the procedure is what . . . . . .????? Nobody can answer this. All they ever show is standard bleeding.
@MattSaysSmile
@MattSaysSmile 6 жыл бұрын
👍
@cpuuk
@cpuuk 6 жыл бұрын
As an aside: Has anyone been following the poor Ducati multistrada rear brake failures? Seems the heat from the Cat is cooking the brake fluid and ruining the Boiling Point, thereby making the rear useless. Just a thought, as I can see that a lot of bikes have a rear brake line\ reservoir close to the cat, so it may well be that many bikes need bleeding, or rather flushing, on a regular basis.
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard of this one as I don't follow Ducatis much, but it's the same on this bike, the rear master cylinder is right behind the exhaust collector...
@cpuuk
@cpuuk 6 жыл бұрын
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@TijmenvandenHeuvel
@TijmenvandenHeuvel 6 жыл бұрын
You have a typo in the title, fliud=fluid!
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tijmen, changed... got up too early doing this aye lol !
@TijmenvandenHeuvel
@TijmenvandenHeuvel 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your videos, recently changed my brake fluid and it all went perfectly because of you!
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
That's great news, thanks for taking the time to let us know - ride safe mate...
@Radioactive_Slime
@Radioactive_Slime 6 жыл бұрын
Poor HD mechanic that gets to work on your bike. Must be shaking in his/her boots when they notice the name on the work order!
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Ha ha, i think not.. i know a few Harley Tech's, and they are dedicated guys, they care about the bikes, they are generous with their advice and knowledge, and have a passion for the biker community..!
@johnrendon2777
@johnrendon2777 Ай бұрын
Thanks with much respect!! I APPRECIATE your content on partial break front bleeding. I would like to let you know Jesus Christ loves you and to make it to Heaven is just confess that Jesus Christ is Lord and Believe with you Heart that Father God Raised His Son Jesus Christ from the dead when he for our sins, I Will see you in heaven, john
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your kind words and good wishes.. God bless you sir.
@8ball903
@8ball903 6 жыл бұрын
Just another reason for me to not buy a Harley 😂😂😂 only joking 👊😎
@softailfun
@softailfun 6 жыл бұрын
Haha..... How's it going buddy?
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Don't believe him Stan... he's just scared of them, couldn't handle the torque mate..!
@softailfun
@softailfun 6 жыл бұрын
Haha. Can't say too much, I still might need a saddle!!
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 6 жыл бұрын
Oh wait.. so do i.. Hey 8Ball.. you look fit mate.. have you been working out..!
@softailfun
@softailfun 6 жыл бұрын
Such a creep! hehe
@jessicadiesel3193
@jessicadiesel3193 Жыл бұрын
Sr I have a 2021 Harley-Davidson trike with ABS system can I change my break fluid as you show in the video without using a pump Harley-Davidson dealership it’s so expensive it’s on for people with money, thanks your videos helping a lot of people 👍👍👍👍👍💯💯💯💯
@Moonfleet41
@Moonfleet41 Жыл бұрын
I would check with your dealer as i believe the TriGlide has a linked system, so maybe needs a different approach.!
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