Starlight Invaded Apple Bloom's Dream (MLP Analysis) - Sawtooth Waves

Original Upload: November 26, 2021 by Sawtooth Waves ( / @sawtoothwaves )
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Starlight Glimmer has done a lot more than we thought..
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[@LegoMiester14]

Before I realized it was a dream, I really did think it was Starlight talking to AppleBloom. So I definitely agree with this theory.

[@KamilZmarzly-im6jc]

OMG if Starlight can manipulate dreams like Luna one line of her village theme song get new meaning. "You can't have Nightmare, if you never dream". What if she was manipulateing everyone in her cult with nightamres, and to end this suffer they had to join her village, and remove their cutemark! 😮

[@parkinglot1]

😮

[@PatriotMapper]

Ooh, that’s a good one.

[@keiracurry104]

Good theory Sawtooth except…. How does Starlight even KNOW Apple Bloom since Twilight has never mentioned her name or the FACT Applejack even has a sister?!

[@CozyGlow-7pr]

she looks like applejack...

[@CozyGlow-7pr]

...or maybe she spied on applejack with her...

[@snookerdooker471]

Applejack could have freaked out about not being able to see apple bloom the guards could’ve heard and told starlight even though that doesn’t really make sense but it could explain how starlight could know about Apple bloom

[@jaelynnelson3455]

She probably spied on applejacks family

[@rebeccaos.]

We don’t know how much starlight saw, she could’ve just spied on Apple Jack

[@juvairia12345]

Are we gonna ignore the voice of the shadow, it sounded SO much like Starlight

[@MysticWater261]

I think the pont of shadows might be a symbiote, look at how venom comes out of Eddies body and then look at the pony of shadows and stygian. If you want me to explain more leave a like and a thumbs up in the respond comments.

[@flamingmagmafish6616]

alr please do explane more

[@sudesh.khatri]

👍

[@HarlowFanpage1112]

Wait, Starlight can go into dreams.... and then Sawtooth wondered who would be on dream duty when Luna retired? IT'LL BE STARLIGHT DUH!

[@katemakesedits]

I would agree to the WHOLE theory, but not really. 1. How would Starlight know about Applebloom? And how can starlight access the dream realm when only princees Luna knows how to access it? Twilight and her friends never mentioned Apple bloom near Starlight, only when she was reformed. 2. Starlight talking to Apple bloom may kind of make sense, but everything that Applebloom said in the waking world was the same in the dream realm. It was just her shadows and her shadows only. I guess its just 2 for now :3

[@SouhailAdal]

Answers: 1-Maybe Starlight spy Applejack's family, and she found that Applebloom doesn't have a cutie mark and she wants to manipulating her to make sure she doesn't have a cutie mark, and Starlight can do spells that are impossible like flying or create an explosion with her shield, so maybe she learned how to use a spell or she spied how Luna use her magic to dream walking, and she succes, so now she can dream walking but in season 7, in A Royal Problem, she made a nightmare and she can't control it, so that means she can't dream walking...unless, she can dream walking but she decided to not longer doing this, that explain why she can't control her dreams. 2-I don't really know, but like I said on my previous question, I think she spy her, so she used to be the shadow, and she decided to go back to the real world to make sure she will not being caught by Luna, so Luna thought that AppleBloom was talking with her shadow.

[@Msdiva0216]

I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS You always right

[@DefNotEnder]

He won’t be able to see this cuz it’s a reupload

[@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376]

Unlike other fans I knew it couldn't be Starlight Glimmer to be begin and knew it was Apple Bloom's own fears and doubts she had them before her nightmares started Apple Bloom's Shadow being the one doing it makes way more sense Starlight never even met Apple Bloom and Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon bullying Apple Bloom for having a Cutie Mark she doesn't like doesn't bother me . Also Starlight was never shown to have a Dream Spell Shadow Apple Bloom is my favorite Dream Villain.

[@kuroyuu츠즈린]

I concur!

[@Storm369-v8k]

Starlight was stocking them😮

[@sarahnkansah6813]

I think that she did

[@UmmAdam-ch4ud]

Yah that's what I said

[@ChristianHernandez-l8t]

3:58 why do you sound so evil😂

[@KhairunnisaBukhari-p8q]

Sorry if you don't like replies but I have no idea that....why did he sound so evil 😂

[@StarlightGlimmerr]

are those the only 3 times she's hidden? or is she hidden throughout even more?

[@azizdastyar996]

Yes

[@poojagupta3638]

How could have starlight even known about twilights castle or the map every time starlight was spying on twilight the castle wasn't visible so how could she possibly know

[@jaelynnelson3455]

Youd be suprised how many times the main 6 accidentally spilt information about the castle

[@Shashu_the_little_Voidling]

She probably spied on them a lot more than just those two times.

[@MagicalKittyCats]

I can’t believe sawtooth did that, honestly, he used to be my favourite KZbinr.

[@michellecomer2492]

DID WHAT?!

[@MagicalKittyCats]

@@michellecomer2492 grooming a child

[@kiddiewinnierobloxgaming6449]

The description give the basis of the controversy, but here are more details for those who want it. The basic story of what happened goes as follows (yes, you'll have to read a bit but this is a condensed version of the mountains of text they gave): A 15-year-old fan (a name I've seen is Ash) was a big fan of Sawtooth and made art and videos for him. He eventually saw them and thanked her for the art. They became friends, talking about MLP theories. He has done this with many fans and even featured some in collabs on his episodes. Eventually she confesses that she has a crush on Sawtooth (whom had just turned 19), making him feel awkward about their relationship and initially denying her feelings back. Some weeks later, the conversation came back again he came back with a "maybe if you were older" type comment which gave her hope in that they could be a couple when she was older but for now would just be friends. Over the next year or so, they would become much closer, talking more openly about things like mental health, family situations, et cetera. They were essentially online bf and gf but didn't do too much apart from roleplay and virtual hugs and kisses. Typical teenager stuff. Then her mother comes in, and she is quite abusive to Ash and threatens Sawtooth to stop talking to her. This is when both parties realised how serious this relationship could be. They didn't want to give up being friends but were willing to put themselves at distance. They would go weeks or even months without talking because of her mother's rules, but they did occasionally mail to each other (as they had done prior while sending fanart to each other). During these separations, she became even more obsessive than she was to the point that she started ignoring her studies and failing in school. On the few times they did reconvene, Sawtooth warned her to not ignore school but she ignored his warnings. By about 2019, they were barely in any contact. Her mother placed a final strict separation between them, though Ash would still text Sawtooth, even though he refused to text back because of her mother's boundaries. A point that was brought up earlier was that when she turns 18, she can make her own decisions and wouldn't have to listen to her mother anymore. When she did turn 18, Sawtooth would start returning her texts and they would officially become a couple. At this point, they began exploring a mild sexual relationship (no one was forced or pressured to do anything), but this wouldn't last too long. The relationship was immediately toxic and ended barely 6 months (I believe) after it started. Sawtooth was the one to break it off. They apparently had a momentary FWB deal but there really is no detail as to how all of that went but they were both adults at this time so it generally isn't our business but it was clear their relationship had grown sour. Then by 2022, Ash told Sawtooth that she was gonna expose him for their relationship and Sawtooth knew that if she did, he would never be trusted again because he knows how the internet is gonna take stuff like this. She got him to beg that she not come forward because it would mean the end of his channel. He would eventually accept this and stopped making videos for a while. By February, both made posts around the same time detailing their sides and Sawtooth privated his channel. She blames him for being 19 and fraternising with a 15 year-old at the time and for being the reason she did bad in school and can't go to college. I'm not even framing it, that is literally what her trauma was; that she did bad and school and blames it on him. It's obvious to me at least that this was a masterclass of a nothing burger that honestly has nothing to do with us so there was no reason they should have actively destroyed his career, but we all know how the internet is. No one can make a mistake without being caught and cancelled for it, no matter how many years have passed or how small the mistake was.

[@Animallover-idk]

@@kiddiewinnierobloxgaming6449rest in peace fingers 😞

[@abdullahalamin-n7c]

I agree with @LegoMiester14 , cause she can manipulate others into thinking cutie marks are bad.

[@ItsMillek]

3:25 im not sure but isnt hat the place were portal opens in frendship games witch is taking while twillight fights starlight?

[@UmmAdam-ch4ud]

Hmm maybe starlight did do it

[@CesarMagicfun]

I know this was like, a year ago but when I see the shadow I see a horn, like a unicorn horn, I've watched a lot of your videos on my TV and on one of them you said that no one can go in the dream world but Luna or use magic, so she Cuden't have done that, but a about the horn confuses me. Just saying.

[@ridagillani3821]

I think she did

[@trimax2978]

9:23 i first time i was thinkin yiu say somethingike not so true, but when i was still watching i was locking again at shadow snd the first shadoe din't hsve coros on the shadow and din't stay on frond its stay all the time on back but when the nextt shado appears i see is having colors fhe 2 shadow and its stays on front this time

[@popcornproductions2]

This isn't sawtooth. It's a reupload

[@DefNotEnder]

I had a stroke reading this

[@michellecomer2492]

Learn how to spell trimax geez 🙄

[@Moonlight_Shadow7]

So we’re just forgetting about what sawtooth did?

[@harper40]

what did they do 😭

[@sakoholtian2305]

@@harper40 never telling :3

[@kiddiewinnierobloxgaming6449]

The description give the basis of the controversy, but here are more details for those who want it. The basic story of what happened goes as follows (yes, you'll have to read a bit but this is a condensed version of the mountains of text they gave): A 15-year-old fan (a name I've seen is Ash) was a big fan of Sawtooth and made art and videos for him. He eventually saw them and thanked her for the art. They became friends, talking about MLP theories. He has done this with many fans and even featured some in collabs on his episodes. Eventually she confesses that she has a crush on Sawtooth (whom had just turned 19), making him feel awkward about their relationship and initially denying her feelings back. Some weeks later, the conversation came back again he came back with a "maybe if you were older" type comment which gave her hope in that they could be a couple when she was older but for now would just be friends. Over the next year or so, they would become much closer, talking more openly about things like mental health, family situations, et cetera. They were essentially online bf and gf but didn't do too much apart from roleplay and virtual hugs and kisses. Typical teenager stuff. Then her mother comes in, and she is quite abusive to Ash and threatens Sawtooth to stop talking to her. This is when both parties realised how serious this relationship could be. They didn't want to give up being friends but were willing to put themselves at distance. They would go weeks or even months without talking because of her mother's rules, but they did occasionally mail to each other (as they had done prior while sending fanart to each other). During these separations, she became even more obsessive than she was to the point that she started ignoring her studies and failing in school. On the few times they did reconvene, Sawtooth warned her to not ignore school but she ignored his warnings. By about 2019, they were barely in any contact. Her mother placed a final strict separation between them, though Ash would still text Sawtooth, even though he refused to text back because of her mother's boundaries. A point that was brought up earlier was that when she turns 18, she can make her own decisions and wouldn't have to listen to her mother anymore. When she did turn 18, Sawtooth would start returning her texts and they would officially become a couple. At this point, they began exploring a mild sexual relationship (no one was forced or pressured to do anything), but this wouldn't last too long. The relationship was immediately toxic and ended barely 6 months (I believe) after it started. Sawtooth was the one to break it off. They apparently had a momentary FWB deal but there really is no detail as to how all of that went but they were both adults at this time so it generally isn't our business but it was clear their relationship had grown sour. Then by 2022, Ash told Sawtooth that she was gonna expose him for their relationship and Sawtooth knew that if she did, he would never be trusted again because he knows how the internet is gonna take stuff like this. She got him to beg that she not come forward because it would mean the end of his channel. He would eventually accept this and stopped making videos for a while. By February, both made posts around the same time detailing their sides and Sawtooth privated his channel. She blames him for being 19 and fraternising with a 15 year-old at the time and for being the reason she did bad in school and can't go to college. I'm not even framing it, that is literally what her trauma was; that she did bad and school and blames it on him. It's obvious to me at least that this was a masterclass of a nothing burger that honestly has nothing to do with us so there was no reason they should have actively destroyed his career, but we all know how the internet is. No one can make a mistake without being caught and cancelled for it, no matter how many years have passed or how small the mistake was.

[@LunaiCarmen]

@@kiddiewinnierobloxgaming6449people have been saying that he groomed her, do they seriously have nothing better to do than gossip?! I feel bad for sawtooth he kept the boundaries the mother set, and never done anything deserving of full cancellation. Maybe a personal confession… it’s such a shame…

[@kiddiewinnierobloxgaming6449]

@@LunaiCarmenalmost all people in the internet forgot to do something as basic as research, they always believe in gossip that is why majority of people are misinformed. People in this day and age are also a bit disgusting and extravagant. They summarized highly complicated situations to simply exaggerated phrases that either cast blame on the so called "doer" or the victim. They can't comprehend how they're actions affect the people involve cause even if their not active in social media doesn't mean they won't hear allegations against them. Imagine people who just make a mistake, a large but still a mistake hearing he 's a groomer, she 's a manipulator that would not help the situation but it can't be help since this is the era where common sense seems to start disappearing.

[@vegewolf2862]

Yeah, great theory sawtooth! But another question, how does starlight know how to go into dreams?😊

[@DefNotEnder]

1. This is a reupload 2. She altered a complicated time travel spell without any help. She could definitely walk in dreams

[@michellecomer2492]

⁠​⁠@@DefNotEnder everyone knows this is a reupload and you’re right

[@lixakarwan732]

She's literally more powerful than the wizard guy I forgot his name and she could take away cutie marks

[@michellecomer2492]

@@lixakarwan732 the wizard I think you’re referring to is starswirl the bearded

[@JJJJ-vw6ze]

It’s a good theory but I don’t think starlight could effect the dream realm not even princess celestia can effect it even princess luna said my sister is hoplesss in the dream realm so yea if princess celestia can’t effect the dream realm I don’t think starlight can if it was possible princess celestia would also be able to effect the dream realm

[@KhairunnisaBukhari-p8q]

I think you are right about starlight sneaking around but I don't know anything about starlight in Apple blooms dream. And how does starlight know apple Jack has a sister how does she even know about Apple Bloom and more of the fact how does she know Apple Bloom really wants a cutie mark and controls her dream that way sorry I just have so many questions because some of the things about the video just don't make sense I mean how does starlight know..... Whatever just never mind. I want a reply from someone at least !!!

[@AshBlueFox16]

I think it’s because their names have the same first name, apple. I think she can put two and two together

[@AnnMaureenGabisan]

Maybe she did it

[@ProudAlterhuman_.]

6:25

[@DarkPurple_25143]

I didn't see that Starlight was spying on the Mane 6?

[@samuelkriz2761]

then you are really blind

[@nerodavid7026]

maximam snaky !!!!!!!!

[@TheAnimalFans]

U al ways hav beeleevebel thereys

[@TheAnimalFans]

Translation: you always have believeble theories

[@orion8615]

@@TheAnimalFans bruh, do you even know swatooth waves made them?

[@juanahernandezo.3033]

😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@emmabaino6646]

Unless it's just a show glitch

[@DefNotEnder]

Starlight didn’t look very glitched

[@CozyGlow-7pr]

yr ryte

[@DefNotEnder]

Why can’t anyone spell? Also this is a reupload