'Deliciously' Ella Mills on healthy eating & society's toxic relationship with ultra-processed foods

Ella Mills is the bestselling food writer and founder of Deliciously Ella, the food blog-turned-brand which she created in 2012 after a sudden debilitating illness led her to overhaul her diet and turn to plant-based foods as a way to get better.
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Since then, Mills has become a key player in bringing healthy food to the mainstream, with a brand whose 100 plant-based, additive-free products are now sold in all major UK supermarkets, and whose revenue is estimated to be £20 million. But this huge success has come with vicious trolling and personal attacks online - and it’s only now that Mills has finally come to terms with it.
Today on Ways to Change the World, she tells Krishnan Guru-Murthy about the story behind Deliciously Ella, why a change in our diets towards more fresh, plant-based foods cannot happen unless the government steps in, and talks about acknowledging the difference between her privilege and her business success.
Produced by Silvia Maresca
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[@rawforaugust]

Thankyou Ella. As someone who has reversed disease by eating whole foods, having the option of your snacks has uplifted my life. Xxxx

[@charlottet7548]

I find it fascinating that despite her privilege she was evidently eating ultra processed meal deal food as a student? That is real evidence that the problem of healthy eating really is largely cultural and environmental and makes it difficult for individuals to make the best food choices. I appreciate the interview sounds a little bit like an advert for her brand but for the most part she’s making solid points.

[@eladan867]

Yes it is very cultural and environmental, but I think it is deliberate selling this processed food to make people sick and dependable from big pharma 🤐

[@ET76001]

for deliciously ella everything is always about her brand promotion.

[@hanric2000]

She seems a nice well balanced person with a lot of good points about society, food and health. Well spoken and thanks for speaking up on the inherent problem with ultra processed foods 😊

[@an67481]

That's all fine and well but always throughout abundant human societies they have known to value one important food group: animal meats and products. The developing brain, the convalescent fighter and strenued worker, the stressed and fatigued mother, the aging grandparents, they all need meat/fish, animal fat, and dairy for better iron levels and cell repair/mitochondrial function.

[@ornyoko]

100%

[@billybobs1705]

stop salivating

[@ConnieHeartsValentino]

@@an67481 It's all about balance. I like to incorporate Ella's delicious recipes as side dishes to accompany my animal meat.

[@paulbooth77]

@@an67481 You are correct in that society values meat & other animal products, but this is the downfall. A high meat & dairy diet has been proven time and time again to be detrimental to overall health. The majority of the western population don't get enough fibre and are lacking in many of the vitamins and minerals that only come from plants. The awareness is there, but many people are so addicted or set in their ways to consuming ultra processed food, they refuse to change. We need to get rid of all the chemical laden convenience food and get back to eating natural whole produce. In addition, the hormones in dairy products play havoc with the human body as they are simply not designed for us (calf growth hormones), so using soy milk for example would be a far healthier option.

[@sebbyknight]

She’s cool, calm and very articulate. A great campaigning voice in a complex food supply ecosystem. I bought her first book and she’s evolved with integrity and charm.

[@kpmgp22]

What is her book 📕??

[@asahdo]

It is hard. I have a daughter who I have so far managed to raise without added sugar or ultra processed foods. I cook everything from scratch and always have done and it is hard. Firstly it’s more expensive. Healthy proteins and fats in particular (nuts, extra virgin olive oil, avocado, fish) are very expensive. Secondly so much of our culture and society revolves around food as a treat. My daughter does ballet. At the end of every term they give out chocolate as a treat. My daughter doesn’t have it but I don’t want her to feel like she doesn’t deserve a treat. Rewards are so closely linked with unhealthy food in schools and kids classes. Why can’t rewards be something that isn’t bad for you. Thirdly, obviously all her friends eat differently. Birthday parties, going over to friends houses etc is all so much harder when usually there’s nothing there that she can eat. Fourthly, time. These days two parent families have both parents working full time to get by and single parent families are equally as stretched for time if not more so. It used to be that there would always be a parent at home to be able to do the housework and cook proper meals from scratch. That’s a luxury most families don’t have anymore. Fifthly, it’s so normalised that most people don’t know the true extent of how weird our diets have become. Most of what we eat these days isn’t even food. But every book I read my daughter there’s so much hype around things like cake and chocolate. And at school many are entitled to free school meals but those meals still have way too much sugar and processed food in them even post Jamie Oliver.

[@annemccarron2281]

You don't have to eat fish, nuts, & avacados to eat healthy. Peasants around the world and throughout history have survived predominately on beans & rice. Both are considered longevity foods.

[@asahdo]

@@annemccarron2281 if you really think living solely off of beans and rice is either healthy or realistic then I’d suggest you don’t understand what healthy eating is at all. Beans and rice can be a healthy meal within a larger more diverse diet (we have several beans and rice recipes ourself that we love). But living off just beans and rice is definitely not healthy and there’s no way you’d receive the macro or micronutrient variety sufficient to be truly healthier than just living off a standard modern western diet tbh.

[@sarahsnowe]

@@asahdo Root vegetables, onions and cabbage are cheap, nourishing, and delicious if you know how to cook. You can grow your own sprouts. Also, people have lost the skills of foraging for free food: chickweed, for instance, is incredibly nutritious, and dandelion leaves are tasty in spring.

[@asahdo]

@@sarahsnowe yes I know those are all cheap. But people still need healthy fats and protein. Eating healthy food is not hard. Eating a healthy diet is much harder in modern British society/environment.

[@littleboots9800]

​@@asahdo True. I don't use seed oils, I only use butter, EV olive oil, avocado oil, animal fats but the cost difference is vast. It's one food group where it definitely IS more expensive to make the healthy choice.

[@farrahburke4768]

She smashed this - SO eloquent, clear and reasonable!

[@meg27mm]

Love Ella, her message, work, what she stands for and how she's going about it.

[@ilzeherbst6711]

I work in a supermarket and organic healthy options don't sell well. We would love to add more options. It is just too expensive right now. I hope this will change soon.

[@lifeiswonderful2023]

I love Ella Mills and I am a huge supporter. I feel we owe her a lot. I have most of her books, seen most of her early videos and listened to most of her podcasts. I am so grateful for all that I have learnt through Ella. I am just a massive fan and hope she continues to thrive.

[@ConnieHeartsValentino]

Totally agree! I've been following her since her early days. Really enjoy looking back at her old cooking videos and cookbooks. She was so fun and I loved her enthusiasm for her recipes and eating well. Now she has matured, as a wife, mother, businesswoman, and wholesome food advocate.

[@iphar]

(1) I lost count of how many times this old school journalist brought up 'privilege' and tried to put words in her mouth. (2) I found her very sensible and full of easily agreeable ideas, that does not mean any of us has to buy her products or even that her approach to an individual diet is the 'best one'. (3) She mostly said that the context in which we live in makes it very difficult to cultivate a healthy, balanced diet. Nothing new there. (4) It is up to us to judge how much effort we actually make in pursuit of that in our own lives.

[@ParanoiaConspiracy]

I agree! It’s simple. Tons of veggies, proteins and simple carbs for energy (whole grain and brown flower). Avoid unhealthy fats, drinking and smoking. Drink plenty of water. What’s difficult about it? People should start look in at the labels on every food they buy. There is so much to learn if you spent 1 Minute to read them.

[@mum2jka]

🤣 Now that's privilege.

[@sarahsnowe]

Even better: don't buy food with labels on it, i.e., buy fresh fruit and veg, bulk beans and lentils, etc.

[@ConnieHeartsValentino]

You go Ella! You are doing marvelous things! It should not be expensive to have access to good, wholesome food.

[@streamingpandora]

Her food still contains seed oils and syrups like rice syrup which are terrible. Seed oils are mostly extracted by chemical solvent, then purified and refined and sometimes are chemically altered. The heavy use of seed oils means we are heavily overdosing on omega 6. We should have a ratio of 1:1 in omega 3:6 but now we're getting roughly 1 : 20. There are various thoughts on links to inflammation and increased heart disease but they are observational studies. Regardless of this, undergoing such an extreme shift shouldn't be overlooked. There is simply no need for the oils in cereal at all and there are other suppliers like Dorset cereals, who truly have nothing but whole foods in their boxes - no sugars and no oils. This leads me to believe she's selling her food for taste rather than health. For cereal bars, the use of peanut oil could be substituted. At the end of the day, her food is still processed, just a bit less than others. Buyer beware.

[@eliteboxfitness]

Fair and informed breakdown . More PUFA leading to the distorted ratio of omega 3 /6. Her products are delicious thats for sure. They can also be and at home and they share recipes on thier site. The challenge is always the same . Time and money . Fix that fix everything

[@littleboots9800]

That out of whack ratio of omega 6 : omega 3s is massive in the area of depression too. Our brains are mostly fat. Studies have shown treatment with the correct type, dose and ratio of different omega 3s can be at least as effective as prescription antidepressants, more for some. That's why Dr Ilardia has it as one step in his Depression cure plan. The others are pre noon sunlight daily for 30 minutes (this cant be substituted for vit D supplements, its about the light specifically, ) vit D3 supplementation and a couple of others I can't remember now. Just a couple of the steps are enough for some ppl to achieve a lifting of longterm depression but the more steps implemented the better. All science backed, no quackery. Most of the steps are free or cheap and very easy to implement even with the lack of motivation or energy longterm depression brings. I'm a big fan if you can't tell 😂. Check out his lecture on here or check out his book. I love his practicality. When asked if ppl could get there vit D and omega 3s in diet he said sure but he's not about to ask the chronically depressed to change the way they shop, cook and eat. That can come later when they get motivation and energy back. Besides to get the exact dose and ratio of the omega 3s he recommends would be tricky to get right if attempting to do it with diet.

[@philhunt168]

Lots of epidemiological data that shows that seed oils are healthy, even necessary in moderation,

[@streamingpandora]

@@philhunt168 I should have clarified that seeds oils are terrible WHEN they are chemically extracted and altered. Seed oils naturally processed i.e. by grinding is a different matter and I agree are healthy in moderation. I remain sceptical that her produce is using the healthy version given some of her ingredients, which are not natural or healthy.

[@forward2000]

​@@philhunt168 Seed oils were originally created as machine lubricants and epidemiological data is terrible evidence that doesnt prove anything

[@Azz77A]

Pesticide residues in fresh unprocessed vegetables and fruits are not fully monitored and tested 😢. This is very concerning to me

[@girl_on_fire_x_x]

I'm absolutely onboard with us all eating a Proper Human Diet of whole foods and cutting out seed oils and ultra processed food. I am not onboard with her findings that plant-based is best. Majority of the plant-based research was funded by that very industry and the pharmaceutical industry. There's a clear conflict of interest. We need a common sense approach to what we eat.

[@bobadams7654]

Funded by the pharmaceutical industry? Re plant based - loads of proper research validates that it is best. NB this does not mean not having small amounts of quality meat, dairy, etc

[@ErikaLucas-wv1ub]

And all the meat and dairy research is funded by the very industry. At least eating a plant based diet your arteries don't get clogged up with cholesterol. Ella Mills is not advocating eating nothing but a plant based diet, she says eat like your grand parents did. They did not eat ultra processed food, cooked everything from scratch and ate very little meat

[@PaKalsha]

12:35 - "conventional chocolate spread is 56% sugar, we've got 5% sweetener". Sweetners make it ultraprocesed food, by definition, and she's not going to at least mention that?

[@kona328WH]

Lol no. Way to be stupid

[@LucyCatlow]

It’s maple syrup

[@annaoslo8650]

I don’t know. I tried vegan and then just tried a more balanced diet with lots of vegetables, sweet potato and lots of nuts and seeds, and so much spinach. I have had bladder issues, chronic pain, chronic fatigue and serious blood sugar ups and downs. I then learned about oxalates and will never eat spinach again. My sleep is better, my bladder is happier and my skin is not itchy, rashy and blotchy! I think I really overdid it with the oxalates and am leaning more towards good animal protein which has helped me gained very healthy weight. I think a balanced diet, with very little processed food eaten in season is probably best. I am still learning and seeing what my body needs, but not all plants are great or should be eaten in excess. That is what my body has taught me. I think when you’re in a balanced and healthy state, you can tolerate and manage to have some of everything in moderation, including al food groups and even what we consider poisons. Life should be enjoyed but it’s true you can’t enjoy anything if you’re ill all the time. Wishing every single person clarity and light on their journey to figuring out how to eat their optimal way. It’s not easy but hopefully with honesty and integrity we can really help each other. I know that that has always been the place from which Ella tries to share her story with us and I appreciate her doing so. ❤

[@avayu2289]

I am hugely inspired by the beautiful and well informed nutritionist foodie Ella Mills. ❤

[@Shane-zl9ry]

Eat plants and drink water ✊😎🌱

[@PaKalsha]

There's multiple systemic issues preventing people who want to avoid UPF doing so - any encouragement to eat better needs to be paired with material support, helping people afford the time and money to cook at home. It's not enough to simply tell people "just read the label" or "just learn to cook" when the broad picture of what's good/bad for you is patently obvious; we need to address the underlying issues that stop people using that knowledge.

[@charlottet7548]

Absolutely spot on !

[@bec5250]

Convenience, convenience, convenience. That and comfort eating. The world is getting harder, we are all desperate for more comfort, and there are very few places where you can as quickly and easily get a super healthy meal.

[@eliteboxfitness]

Share examples of material support that helps people afford and cook healthy foods

[@Beesa10]

Underlying issues such as people not wanting to chop vegetables and not being able to keep a kitchen knife sharp.

[@eliteboxfitness]

@@Beesa10 simplicity is key

[@jimboj460]

Its good to have the discussion about diets, processed food etc but you have to mention sedentary lifestyles in connection with the bad health outcomes.

[@itgetter9]

Brilliant. Thank you for sharing this!

[@georgelennybecerratames6717]

Me encanta tus libros, la cocina vegana es lo mejor de la vida , escribo desde madrid España 👍🏻

[@mollydavidson1787]

Ella had so much grace with that interviewer

[@wurstsalatohnegurke]

How come two generations failed to pass on knowledge on how to cook and work an allotment ?

[@monicaaparecidaoliveira8063]

Interesting conversation. I find it hard to change my food routine but it is worth listening and trying to make the change that is proposed. Thanks.

[@LivingALife4Me]

Its clear that she knows what problems people may have which is rare. As she says, its about changing ideas and reducing the ultra processed. Read the label and if its something you cannot recognise as an ingredient look at a different produce. I have found that cheaper brands often use less ingredients in such at tinned tomatoes

[@kona328WH]

Good video BTW. But sadly most won't take it in.

[@ornyoko]

Speaks really well. Maybe Ella should be a politician, especially if she can pull through an abrupt-at-times interview like that

[@TommysPianoCorner]

My caveat would be that there are far too many hypotheses presented as facts. Whenever I hear ‘we know xyz is good’ or ‘we know xyz is bad’ it makes me cringe. In fact, we know very little. Most of what we are told we ‘know’ is based on associative data and as they say, there are lies, damn lies and statistics. Thus, suggesting the state should get involved is dangerous. The state endorsed the ‘low fat diet’ decades ago and the food companies went off reducing fat (by adding sugar, emulsifiers etc.). Most now agree that we should avoid anything labeled ‘low fat’ and instead eat healthy fats. Herein lies the next problem, what is a healthy fat? Is something produced in a factory using heavy machinery, high temperatures, bleaching agents etc (so pretty much all seed oils) more healthy than a naturally occurring fat in a food we have eaten for as long as records exist (so, pretty much any animal fat). It’s not that long ago that we were convinced that trans fats were ‘healthy’ as they were unsaturated yet now they are banned in many countries …

[@jimboj460]

That's very important and this creates the confusion that she talks about.

[@TommysPianoCorner]

@@jimboj460 absolutely. The phrase ‘according to science’ is a bit of a joke when talking about nutrition.

[@leighbloomfield9458]

Great video!

[@salvatorelionetti1274]

Channel 4 hosts very interesting debates! Thanks

[@hanric2000]

Food is only one part of the equation but most people are also doing much less physical labor. Wake up, get into your car, go to work, sit in front of a computer, go back home in your car. That’s everyday life for many.

[@anonnymous4684]

Food is probably the most important part though. The more active people are the more calories they are likely to consume so the key is encouraging people to make healthy choices in what they eat, rather than simply reaching for more processed food.

[@starfish3419]

It's not about the nanny state...it's about realising that we currently ARE in a nanny state, one which is encouraging us with advertising to make bad decisions and eat poorly. She is encouraging people in another direction to free themselves from that nanny state, and to eat naturally and simply.

[@The_New_Abnormal_World_Order]

I love his tie!!

[@AnyKeyLady]

So let me get this right. Her mum is a Sainsbury and she is selling products in supermarkets under the guise of whole food and unprocessed foods made in a factory? What a lot of PR BS! The main issue is when they removed home economics as just a lesson for girls, instead of having it be inclusive of both sexes. I started my traditional cooking, whilst in care and looking at what my Nan would make and how i could incorporate this into my cooking and purchasing food on a limited budget. It is a lack of food knowledge and convenient food reliance. Even in your own room, you can grow some of your own food. If you shop smart enough you can find some great deals on whole food. Organic just means that the fruit or veg hasn't been sprayed with pesticides and if washed carefully, these can be removed. If you plan a head you can make lots of meals from one base dish and freeze the rest to have as ready meals.

[@upendasana7857]

I agree with her totally about eating wholefoods and cooking more from fresh and not buying ultra processed BUT I am NOT going to start buying her products as they are way overpriced when they can be made easily at home and there is no way I can afford to buy them nor would I when I can make them myself for a fraction of the price and taste better. I have been making wholefood plant based since the 80's,I was brought up even as a meat eater with good quality whole home cooked food. People simply need to get back to cooking more,it just takes some time and planning and it doesn't need to cost anymore.I eat well ona budget and I don't see whay whole food,plant based cooking should cost anymore ..in fact it should be cheaper as the price of meat and fish and dairy is expensive and these new plant based alternatives very often are also too expensive and often not healthy...maybe not hers but too many unhealthy plant based products. You do not have to soak your chickpeas...ever heard of tins Krishnin...eating well and healthy does not need to be expensive but I understand those on limited budgets and with limited time go for the cheapest more processed options based on convenience and money.

[@eliteboxfitness]

You're eight they can be made at home. Of everyone did that that would be great . They are also a business so what is over priced it's really supply and demand. And subjective. I learned nothing is expensive life, it's just beyond my budget

[@MelodyBee-yl7we]

Love deliciously Ella :)

[@lesleytao1915]

She’s great 🎉🎉🎉

[@leegarryallen]

Asking the question "can only the privileged advocate for change?"... i like Krishnan but the question reaks of privilege. We do live in that world. Wake up. However, good for people like Ella doing the right thing from a position of privilege.

[@user-oe7br8ww5n]

Our NHS is struggling to cope partly because of the amount of obese ill people in the UK eating junk. Partly their fault partly not. The food industry has a lot to answer for.

[@nicolewalker5502]

The history of upf taking off involved governments pushing low fat (ergo high sugar and carb). Big food just took the baton and now we're dependent on veg oil sugar etc and grains. So I blame the nutritional anti science@.

[@hyderabbasi]

Is this new? This is already well known and covered by Channel 4 News in June last year, with an interview with Dr Chris Van Tulleken.

[@starfish3419]

The regulations Ella wants to put in are not regulations on people and what they eat, but on the advertising that forces people to only think there is one way of eating. She wants regulations on manipulation, and to give people education which frees them to make their own decisions instead of being restricted to certain patterns.

[@janehelps591]

Very true ella

[@marijones5661]

It's grift shift. She used to promote clean eating (she says she doesn't but she used the hashtag on her posts) and sold misinformation about 'inflammatory' foods. People called her out for it so now she's going against hyper-processed food -- while her slightly-less-processed food products are full of sugar. She will do anything to sell books and make money (which she doesn't even need because she's an heiress).

[@___hannah.]

Yeah, her products are super sugary and will have fancy looking ingredients like brown rice syrup that just mean sugar

[@Metonymy1979]

100%

[@terrilynnshoemaker5000]

Client base Food will just about make anyone sick sick after a while

[@MostlyLoveOfMusic]

we should all be vegan, that would help a lot

[@alidolloso1704]

People consuming 2/3 ultra processed food is scary.

[@samshepperrd]

At least she lived in a time, society, country that required disclosure of ingredients on food packaging. And for those who can afford it, chemically unadulterated food is usually available.

[@belkentens]

Save yourself 40 minutes of your beautiful precious life… This is an advert

[@FayCreative]

💯

[@BenCG]

Our food got so much better starting around the early 2000s, fewer tins and frozen and more 'freshly prepared' convenience foods. It's hard to know what's ultra processed and what's not among them, but we are backsliding with the increase in inflation and in greed/profit margins. We're paying more for less and for poorer quality ingredients wrapped in the same posh marketing. It's even harder if you actually have food intolerances, but there's a question too over whether higher quality, cleaner ingredients can address those intolerances without the need for pricy alternatives. My mum and I are both intolerant to milk and cheese but recently we tried raw, unpasteurised milk from the farm and we're fine, but it might not be that way for everyone.

[@natela_mk]

Why are her products so full of sugar?

[@jasonfallon4968]

Keto - IF. 👌🏼

[@Jade-bf5we]

We are the only species that cooks our food. If you want the reap benefits of healthy food. Eat it raw. Or as close to its natural state as possible. Our grandparents grew as much of their own food as possible. We need to do the same.

[@The_New_Abnormal_World_Order]

Good look switching to a high carb 'healthy' diet if your blood sugar is messed up which is the case with most people nowadays. It's a shame for her to put down keto which is saving so many lives. I've just had a look at her range and I'm seeing sugars and seed oils. That's not healthy, just saying.

[@mattybanks1624]

So use more experience food.. sorry like but everyone's poor and have to skip meals on the daily so going organic isn't an option

[@paulallen2919]

you don't have to buy organic food at all to make healthier food choices

[@BenWillock]

She's got a good grift, fair play to her.

[@jhc839]

Stupid looking to attract stupid. Can you figure out my intended target? Hint, it's not Ella

[@Erectotoad]

Grift?

[@KJ-js7pi]

History of Art St Andrews graduate... hmm not sure she is the most authoritative figure on nutrition, wellness and consumption.

[@ironfistdave8571]

I'm happy that change is good for her I Am Not Her I am something else.

[@nicolewalker5502]

I know it's veganuary and that's better than standard Western diet but Ella has no.knowledge and sells processed food so she should not be offering dietary advice. Plant based (the new marketi g term for vega )in the long term is nutritionally deficient (protein,B12 and A D E,K). After 5 years. 😢

[@tidytown3313]

It is very easy to be a healthy long term vegan as long as you understand basic nutrition and Macros and Micros. People jump into things with no real knowledge then it goes wrong. A focus on whole plants in any capacity is only going to benefit a person and the planet's health. Processed Vegan foods are nice to have from time to time but not something a diet should be based on! Deficiency is rife in all aspects of society so education on what our bodies need to thrive is vital. Sadly our food environment is not set up that way! There is also a social economic side to all this as well. We have to have faith and lead by example or what hope do we have. We live in a world of misinformation and capital gain.

[@georgiemary1518]

I think you're a little bit confused; "vegan" refers to the lifestyle i.e. no wool, no animal products, no leather and "plant based" refers to exclusively food. Therefore, all vegans are plant-based but not all plant-based people are vegan i.e. may still wear leather. A lot of plant-based people refer to themselves as vegan as its generally more well known :)

[@elenageorgieva1495]

Let me ask you a question, if you have an illness would you rather go to a doctor or some quack with an Instagram account? If we don't use quacks for our health, why should we with our food, at the end of the day, food does have a great effect on our bodies! What I find extraordinary about this lady is the fact that she came from the "wellness industry" and in the last few years when everyone finally realised that this exact same industry is nothing but marketing speak, she is suddenly "frustrated" with it. I used to follow her and her blog religiously, and have seen how she used to peddle untruths like "peanuts make fungous grow in your body". She's been banging on about how eating organic foods is the best option and people should only be eating such foods for many years, she even did an "experiment" on her site on how much it will cost with half the products being given to her and her team for free. I am very happy I don't follow her anymore but I still wonder how intelligent people can buy this nonsense she and others like her are spreading.

[@ikronic258]

AGENDA!!!

[@cliveargyle5237]

It always makes me laugh when we get lectured by young people who work sitting at a desk that we should all be eating a plant base diet. People who probably never done a physical days work in their lives. Simple, if you want a healthy diet for longevity and health, shop at a fish mongers, butchers and green grossers.

[@littleboots9800]

That is basically what she said. 30 plant foods a week includes stuff like garlic, herbs, nuts etc. It's much more easily incorporated than it might first seem. I'm trying it alongside my usual meat eating. It's not about going vegetarian or vegan. Shes just saying eat lots more plant food and cook from scratch.

[@crulove]

She makes some good points but her suggestion to limit meat is extremely misguided. As a man, lean animal protein is essential to feel satiated and get the nutrition needed. If i were tocswirltch to majority plant based diet id be constantly snaking on junk food. By eating meat, eggs and fish i pretty much avoid ever needing to snack between meals.

[@Davd-ik2hm]

just wondering, how fake that podcast branding is. do the regular studio or dress different boomer

[@belkentens]

Who is this little poppet?

[@SA-ff9uc]

He's called Krishna Guru Murphy.

[@suitsushi]

She has created and sells Deliciously Ella's food in supermarkets.

[@rosemarybrown4407]

Duh

[@kona328WH]

Let the fools eat junk. It's they're loss and they'll pay for it in the end. If they put some actual effort into they're diet they'll see that eating super processed food is basically an early grave.

[@SA-ff9uc]

We all pay for it.

[@kona328WH]

@@SA-ff9uc and we always will

[@LucyCatlow]

We all pay for that. Education is not there

[@kona328WH]

@@LucyCatlow the government would only just spunk the saved money up the wall anyway. On endless wars and lining their own pockets.

[@normhanson981]

Plant based , get meat and dairy out of your diet .

[@user-xi9kx6sq5s]

Not very "delicious" at all but somewhat self opinionated. Cannot stand her book or recipes.

[@billybobs1705]

this woman does not live in the real world