Dell Latitude 5410 / 5411 (2020) In-Depth Review with Internals Inside Peek

[@stephenstuttard6498]

Thanks for the great video, I am getting my new 5410 shortly, looking forward to the updated ram and SSD

[@subwarpspeed]

Haven't checked the whole video yet. There are more differences than the processor, one I've noticed is that the 5411 comes with a HDMI 2.0 port but the 5410 have a HDMI 1.4b port. Difference will be that normally the 1.4 can't provide 4k (3840x2160) in 60 hz but 2.0 can (if display supports it). You can work around that with an adapter (or docking station) which uses DisplayPort 1.2 (that do 4k@60hz) over USB-C. But it was a bit annoying when looking for machines to deploy, a regular user won't think of connecting a USB-C (form factor) to HDMI adapter when the computer has a HDMI connector already and they will be stuck with 30 hz. Next series up model to the 5410, the 7410, have HDMI 2.0.

[@helensilver1381]

I have a couple very elementary questions. Please excuse but this is the first day I am working with my new Dell Latitude 14", Intel Core i7, 16 GB Ran, 512 CG SSD. Whatever that previous statement means. 1) the desktop icons refuse to downsize and they are too large, 2) the text appears blurry, 3) When I used more than one program such as MS Word document, Internet German to English translator, I cannot get them to appear as they once did on my former Dell Latitude 5480. By the by, this Dell arrived appearing used. The outer box was perfectly intact but the inner Dell box was ripped open and re-taped sloppily, there was no documentation save the Warranty which did not include my computer's SN or anything indicating that the warranty applied to my computer. The protective cover for the screen and the pad to protect the keypad were missing. I was informed yesterday by our computer guru that Dell recognized my computer and that someone had set it up. He removed that setup but I am still not confident that Dell knows this. Any advice you can give would be much appreciated. Thank you.

[@venkataramana675]

Hi thanks for your review. After seeing your review I bought this laptop 5411 and feels good about its performance

[@stenbros]

Does the fan noise get very loud for u?

[@kjgaaty]

is the fan the loud ?

[@eladlevy8852]

Would you recommend this (latitude 5410) or vostro 5402 for web browse, photos view . Minor home usage. Look for new laptop after macbook 2012 died . Looking for good quality build

[@fiorelaquipildor8507]

Very complete review. Thanks mate! Would you recommend it for studying programming?

[@BsianTech]

Thanks very much @fiorelaquipildor8507, I would recommend it for programming, if you can get the 5411 with the H series processor would be ideal for programming since it takes advantage of the speed difference of the processor.

[@nazarottto]

appreciate that Dell still keeps the 2 RAM slots on the 5000 series, these are now gone for the new Dell 7000 and 9000 series lineups. The fan is however still so tiny, I bet if you run Cinebench R15 ten times or so in a loop it won't be able to hold a high clock speed for long and will throttle down quickly.

[@BsianTech]

Yes it's sad we seeing more business laptops go onboard RAM these days. It's one part that gets upgraded or also fault a bit and to make it easy to swap or install is important for business situation. When I get the next 5411 with an i7 I plan to do a direct comparison of heat with the 5401 and I will run this in much longer times as Dell has said that thermals have improved in the 5411/5410.

[@nazarottto]

@@BsianTech From your disassembly I saw that the new 5411 has a dual heatpipe while on your 5401 review I only saw one heatpipe, so I guess Dell is righ that thermals have improved. Cooling a 45W H-CPU (TDP down to 35W in those laptops) requires beefier cooling solutions than those used for 15W CPUs anyway. Intel mobile CPUs are bursty and are more suited for short but intensive computations, but nevertheless there will be some performace loss if the laptop is not properly cooled. Looking forward to your comparison (:

[@BsianTech]

@@nazarottto Absolutely fantastic you picked that up. I really didn't notice it even though its a big item! I just found a fantastic interview with Travis from Dell (an Thermal expert engerineer) with PCWorld where he really talks about thermals for computers and especially laptops, while I was doing some research into thermals regarding the new Dells. I have reached out to him so see if I can have a chat with him regards to the new Dells.

[@narianu0]

@bsianDad - Thanks for the great review. Are you able to run a stress test on this current model and see how much the core clock speeds drop over a 15-20min period of full usage?

[@BsianTech]

@narianu0, I plan to do this when I get the next 5411 from our orders. The unit has returned back to Dell already.

[@Mishkafofer]

Got this from work i5 8gb 256gb version. The screen is 6bit ips and is dim. I wish I could crank up the brightness 25% more.

[@colt680]

Perfect match for me. I do not need much graphics power but the WWAN slot and 10875H CPU is definitely a go.

[@BsianTech]

I am liking the H CPU in this computer as well, thermals on 5411 is holding up for the H series processor.

[@andreasyostinadewannegara9321]

Thank you for th video, mate !

[@BsianTech]

Pleasure to demonstrate the computer mate, hopefully will help with your decision.

[@sharmanishant8186]

Thanks buddy for such a detailed video. Can you guide for comparison of 5410 & 3310 which one to buy for small business, basic usage presentations, few modeling software training purpose.

[@BsianTech]

Hi Nishant Sharma, since I now have touch and seen both 5410 and 3310. It's an easy one for the small business go with the 5410, its more suited for adult and professional look. The 3310 is more rugger suited for the abuse from kids or tougher environment. As a working professional you will find the 5410 is more refine to play in a part of a business add to the fact that the 5410 has more and higher configurations as well.

[@sharmanishant8186]

@@BsianTech Thanks for the clearing the doubt. What is your opinion on Vostro 5401 is it worth for start business considering long term usage?

[@BsianTech]

@@sharmanishant8186 The Vostro range is still very good computers, if the laptop is going to go through a bit of travelling and abuse go with the Latitude range as has more stronger material IMO. I haven't played with a Vostro for a few years so I should try get one in to have a look at them.

[@wanderer29903]

Is there enough clearance in the M.2 slot for an SSD with memory chips on both sides? Or it a very tight fit, i.e. will only fit one-sided SSDs?

[@99BakerMan]

I see this model has twin heat pipes on the heatsink vs a single pipe heatsink on the 5401. Does this laptop run cooler than the 5401? Thanks.

[@danarj5713]

Thanks, you are reviewing most of the laptops that I like. this laptop a large number of ports and most of the internal are swappable

[@BsianTech]

Thanks mate, agree this work horse is loved by a lot of IT departments for it's nice arrange of ports plus a lot of internals are so easy to service.

[@philipekema4315]

Can you drop in the mx250 into these?

[@royheim]

That's a great review. Keep getting better. You should promote your review videos. About the laptop.. I think 200 nits of brightness is too low for any kind of screen

[@BsianTech]

Thanks Sumit, I think as people do searching for it the videos they will come across. I don't have website or team nor place that my content to promote my videos. Maybe one day one of the IT teams will promote the videos in their company. I did create the videos for both the consumers and also IT personnel in mind. I think if Dell can increase this to 400nits be good, the 220 nits do struggle a bit in outdoor environment when working or presenting outside eg. at cafe.

[@BarbarraBay]

I assume these will be exactly the same as Dell Latitude 5510 / 5511, apart from screen size? Is this correct? The Dell Latitude 5511 offers a 6 cell battery. Will this automatically have longer battery life? Thanks

[@tahirabbasnaeem7673]

Hi basin, need your opinion on this Dell latitude 5411 i5-10400H 8gb 256gb, i bought it for programming and some business tasks, but problem is the display is 6bits and not vibrant or sharper. Do you recommend switching it with Hp elitebook 850 G6 i7 8thgen U processor? It has a better display but low powered processer

[@exti047]

Hi - Great review. Just interested to know at what distance did you perform the dBA noise level measurements? Keep up the great work!

[@BsianTech]

I normally put the sound meter tool 45cm away from the hinge of the display to do the measurement, hope that helps. Thanks for the feedback John =).

[@andrewlam3532]

Awesome review mate, would you recommend the Dell Latitude 5411 with i7-10850H and Nvidia MX250 for running SketchUp and AutoCAD software? As I will always travel with the laptop, hence I'm looking for a business laptop which is not too heavy and at the same time able to perform 2D and 3D design. Thanks for your recommendation mate!

[@BsianTech]

Thanks for the nice feedback Andrew, the Latitude 5411 with the i7 and MX250 should run SketchUp and AutoCAD, the other laptop you might consider is the XPS 13 it will be lighter and have a quicker graphics card but if you really running AutoCAD for work and want it stability I would then suggest to look into the Precision 5550 for it's Quadro graphics. With all laptop I would suggest minium 16GB RAM but ideally 32GB or more for AutoCAD depending on your projects. Easy way is fire up your current projects and go to Task Manager and then performance tab and look at how much memory it is using this will give you good idea how much you need at the very least.

[@talkandplay]

Which i5 10th gen CPU was in the laptop you tested?

[@binarydesk8442]

I had a question. If I go for 51Whr battery, will I be able to to use both 2.5" SATA HDD & M.2 SSD at the same time?

[@johnrenzcaballero4308]

Hi, Is this is the Successor of the 2019 5401?

[@BsianTech]

Hi John, yes the 5411 is the 2020 successor to the 5401.

[@johnrenzcaballero4308]

@@BsianTech Thank You so much

[@3xitt]

Great review, thanks! I still cannot decide between 5410 with 4-core i7 10610U 15W (or maybe with 6-core i7 10710U 15W) and between 5411 with 6-core i7 10850H 45W CPU. I'm still sort of worried about the fan noise, thermal issues and short battery life at the latter one. I want to use the laptop for scripting, programming and testing, including taking it on travels with me (better battery life needed). I really like the specs of i7 10610U (TDP 15W configurable up to 25W, base frequency 1.8GHz, turboboost frequency 4.9GHz) so I'm kind of inclined to go for 5410. Am I making the right choice here? Thanks in advance!

[@narianu0]

I just bought a 5411 with the i7-10850H. I had the exact same concerns as you, but I think I'm going to be happy with the 10850H. I did a few stress tests and found that fan noise is the same or quieter as compared to my Latitude 7480. Throttling wasn't an issue either. Doing a Prime95 on hottest settings, the CPU throttles down to 2.3-2.6ghz (85-95%) after 10-15min and hovers around that level. Running a both graphics benchmark (Furmark) and cpu benchmark (Prime 95) at the same time is a different story. In this scenario the cooling system is definitely overstressed, and both CPU/GPU throttle to about 80% of max. However, my Latitude 7480 does the same thing and it'll be rare that you're running both systems at max capacity, so I'm willing to live with this compromise. Overall I think Dell did a good job with their cooling system.

[@3xitt]

@@narianu0 Thanks a lot, appreciated! Could you pls also tell me more about the battery life (I guess you have the 4-cell one with 68 KWh)? How long does it perform on average and under stress? And what about the AC power adapter? It should be 90W, right? Could you please weigh it? The thing is that laptop configuration with Intel Comet Lake i7-10610U (4-core) comes with just 65W power adapter, that's where I could save some weight. Thanks a lot in advance! Generally, still my biggest concern here is possible overheating and battery life of Intel Comet Lake i7-10850H (6-core) laptop configuration...

[@narianu0]

​@@3xitt I got the i7 model with the dedicated nVidia GPU and the 4-cell battery. Battery life seems to be about 6-7hrs, though I haven't drained it in a full test. The video review mentioned battery life under full stress, so take a look there. For power adapter, you actually need a 130w if you have the i7 w/dedicated GPU. I tested using a 90w and although there's a warning every time I boot that power levels might be affected and the computer might have to throttle, it functions fine. When I tested Cinebench with 90w, 130w, and on battery, they all performed at about the same level, so I'm unsure what the ramifications are of using the underpowered adapter. Maybe the battery charges slower? I don't think overheating will be that much of a concern, honestly. The fan and dual-heat pipes seem to do a decent job. However, the extra weight, lower battery life and mediocre screen/color quality (I got the 220 nit screen) made me think about returning the machine. I ended up deciding to try a Lenovo Thinkpad T14 with the new AMD Ryzen Pro 5 CPU. Apparently this achieves the same performance as the i7-10850H processor with much less heat/battery usage.

[@3xitt]

@@narianu0 Man, you totally inspired me - I've checked a couple of reviews (sadly, there's not too many comprehensive tests out there yet) of T14 Gen 1 w/ AMD Ryzen PRO and eventually decided to go for it too. That 7nm AMD APU and IGP Radeon RX Vega (allegedly more powerful than Intel Iris Pro) look really awesome and like a clear winner when compared to Intel Comet/Ice Lake 14nm stuff. Besides, Lenovo offers more colorful, 400 nits bright display w/ much better brightness distribution and I literally love Thinkpad keyboards (already owned 2 Thinkpad laptops in the past) and also touchpad looks much better (bigger). Sadly no NBD on-site, has to be purchased additionally but I can deal w/ it. My question is - why are you going for 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650U rather than 8-core AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750U? Is it because of higher base frequency on a single core to have more balanced performance for both SW supporting multi-/hyperthreading and SW not supporting it (or being coded ineffectively) and thus requiring higher clock on a single core for better performance?

[@narianu0]

​@@3xitt Yeah the T14 looks pretty good. I am not excited about the no-button touchpad, but hopefully I'll learn how to get used to it. I also got the 400-nit screen with full color gamut as well. Regarding cores, I did think about single-core performance since I do lot of Power BI workloads which benefit from better single-core performance. Also, compared to my current processor (i7-7600u), I'm already going from 3633 --> 15814 on CPUBenchmark.net. It should provide plenty of additional improvement for me as-is so I decided to save the extra $$ :)

[@sideecm]

i just received this model from my employer and i have very bad experience. First time power on already bluescreen, can you imagine? Every time reboot it will not able to detect hard drive, need to wait for some time then only can use it again. Need to get replacement very soon.

[@BsianTech]

Sorry to hear the bad experience on the Latitude 5411, do watch out the heat from this if the computer runs the fan at 100% a lot even if its not doing much work do call up Dell, we had a number of these just needs better thermal pads on the processor which we have fed the feedback back to Dell.

[@tremainerobertson2794]

Hi, thanks for the great review. Could you PLEASE review the Dell Latitude 5510? Thanks in advance.

[@mariapelzer8005]

would it be able to handle premier pro?

[@BsianTech]

Will you be editing 4K footage? If so it will struggle a little, editing 1080p it can do decently.

[@mariapelzer8005]

@@BsianTech probably just 1080p at the moment, also does it have an sd card slot?

[@BsianTech]

@@mariapelzer8005 It will do 1080p editing but as you load up more complex layers and filters it will of course start to lag a bit but if you doing some hardcore videos you be looking for even higher end laptops or gaming laptops. The 5411 comes with a microSD card reader, great for gopros and drones but isn't helpful for DSLRs and larger format cameras.

[@nathan469]

Thank you for the video. For a professional usage (using Bloomberg + Excel heavily), would you rather recommend this Dell 5411 or a ThinkPad P14s?

[@g4m4de]

Dell

[@chrislai6691]

why don't you talk anything about the screen? which is the deal-breaker for this laptop imo. for those who's wondering, it's only 200 nits at peak brightness, for the sake of battery i guess. Not sure about color gamut, went here to find out, kinda let down...

[@BsianTech]

Hi Chris, sorry about that the reason why I haven't talked about the screen much was because I was planning to release a separate video (usually its 8-10mins video) which would look more in-depth about the display of the 5411 only. I have it all filmed but just haven't had the time to edit and put the video together along with a lot of the reviewed laptop display videos they all sitting on my backlog. ibb.co/G5GyTSs

[@chrislai6691]

thanks for replying sorry for being an ass i'm looking forward to your video

[@tahirabbasnaeem7673]

​@@BsianTech I just bought this laptop, and the screen is 6-bit display 😢

[@tammy_56]

Which one is better HP ProBook x360 or Dell latitude 5411?

[@BsianTech]

Hi Andy, should be Latitde 5411 as that has the much faster processor being H series in there for the intel but if you going to the AMD version of the proBook then I go with the probook x360.

[@andrewp858]

Would this laptop support a 144 hz monitor?

[@davidsalamoun2362]

What do you mean by opting to A nvidia geforce? Can the graphics be upgraded? How much does this cost?

[@BsianTech]

When you purchase this new, Dell can put a Nvidia GeForce in it. Once the laptop is created you can't upgraded it later on it's done on first configuration built.

[@sachinvaidya2126]

Great Review! Could you advise if to opt Latitude 5411 over lenovo thinkpad T490

[@BsianTech]

Thanks SACHIN VAIDYA, currently the 5411 is on 10th Gen Intel where as the T490 is still on 8th Gen Intel, better comparison would be the new Lenovo T14 which would match up the Latitude 5411. Either way I think performance wise the 5411 will win. The one thing I do like about the T14 or T490 is the thinkpad keyboard and the ablity to have a mechanical docking station. Though port wise the 5411 is better.

[@sachinvaidya2126]

BsianDad ! Thanks for your reply and clarification. T14 is not available in india yet and T490 is coming with i7-10510U CPU with NVIDIA GeForce MX250 2GB. Currently i am looking for these machine for normal review work like naviswork but in future i wish to use same machine for 3d modeling work. Does you recommend T490 or shall i consider 5411

[@talkandplay]

Really like the look of the 5411 but the single SSD slot is a no go, hopefully they corrected this in the 5511.

[@jigarshah1438]

Which one you suggest for enterprise web and cloud development work, Latitude 5411(i7) or 5410(i7)? 5411 having high performance processor and 5410 having power saver processor. Which one is good in terms of work performance and cooling too ?

[@BsianTech]

Hi Jigar Shah, for web and cloud development work both will be fine, if you can afford it go with the 5411 but if not 5410 is fine too, what I suggest is to put more money in RAM minimum 16GB, 32GB better if you are going to run a number of virtual machines to run test environments then the difference between 5411 and 5410. As for heating question the 5410 will run very slightly cooler due to the mobile power saving processor, only slightly. I hope that helps your decision.

[@jigarshah1438]

@@BsianTech cool thanks for the reply. Yes I am planning to go for 5411 as not much difference with 5410 price. Also while looking into dell India online site for battery there are two options both are 4 cell 68Whr but one is with express charge(which supports fast charging) and one is long life battry (with 3 year limited hardware warranty). I think one with long life battry would be good in longer run. And there is price difference between Dell india site and dell sales (by calling their sales team). Dell sales team giving more discounts.

[@BsianTech]

Awesome, I personally would lean towards longer battery warranty myself as well. Seen too many swollen batteries, not just Dell batteries, that it’s pretty common problem in laptops. I didn’t know there was price difference in calling vs website for India, nice you explored both options. Price difference in each country and even method we find out hence why I removed mentioning the exact price in my videos.

[@jigarshah1438]

@@BsianTech Hi sorry to bother you one more time, any idea what's the difference between 5411 and 5511 latitude other than bigger display in 5511. Will the thermal will be more of capable of handling heat better in 5511 as its bigger body and it might have more then 1 fan. I searched online on Dell site nothing much mentioned about number of fans .

[@BsianTech]

@@jigarshah1438 I haven't touch the Latitude 5511 yet myself. It's pretty much the 15" one and it might have only slightly better thermals due to larger surface area and ability to fit larger size fan but I can't guarantee that since I haven't actually had it in my hands to confirm with my hands on testing.

[@Piotru26]

I have brand new 5411 on my desk (i5-10400H). Working on baterry is OK (noise wise). When powered from the socket (connected via WD19TB) noise is awful. Even in idle. Even with Quiet setting chosen Dell Power Manager). Fan works always (!!!), even without any workload. It is impossible to work in my office now. Even people who visiting me are asking what is that noise!

[@BsianTech]

I would be reporting that to the IT department or if you have to deal with the issue then straight to Dell. I would first do a BIOS update on the 5411 to see if it will settle down the fan, get that from the dell support site. It shouldn't be spinning its fan all the time. After the BIOS update and doesn't improve the fan issue then call up Dell, I am thinking you got a faulty sensor on the mainboard.

[@Afterburner1245]

@@BsianTech I have the same. With the i7, now my second model (from Dell support) also. It was the replacement of my first where they also replaced the complete mainboard. As soon you set the battery to quiet the system performance deteriorated till nothing. GPU (internal) at 100% on desktop window movement. Placing apps on mx250 did not help. Have the latest Bios. Can only fix it with bios reset. And as soon as you set it backt to quiet in dell power manager it becomes rubbishy. Can you try the same? Dwm.exe process takes 100% gpu. Don’t know what to do now.

[@venkataramana675]

Im using 5411 since 1 month but no such issue found till now. What i feel that at bottom side of laptop there is a heat which is noticeable but it is bearable. The performance of this laptop is awesome.

[@ravingJuggernaut]

Any update on this issue? I am considering getting this laptop but the fan noise problem coupled with its thermals are my main concern. Would greatly appreciate any input 😃

[@stenbros]

This seems like a really really good machine to own. But kind of skeptical to buy it because it seems the fan noise could get potentially very loud.

[@cswingle]

I use this laptop for work and the fan noise is exceptionally loud.

[@PrashantSharma007]

I see so they haven't updated this one like 7410. Keyboard and trackpad is same like last generation.

[@BsianTech]

Yes the touch and feel of the 5410 and 5411 hasn't really changed from the previous gen. The 7410 did a get a keyboard and trackpad upgrade though from the 7400..

[@JohnSmith-yr6je]

@@BsianTech when you mean upgrade do you mean better materials or just more pleasant to type?

[@priyankpatel5281]

dell 3410 is it worth it ? should I go for 5410 newer updates in india ?

[@BsianTech]

I have never played with the Latitude 3xxx series. I will place a request to have a look at it, as I have been ask previously for student use. Which ones are you considering?

[@priyankpatel5281]

@@BsianTech well i do a lot of presentation , MS teams , M S Office work , Xilinx, Matlab Software , Python coding and code blocks, Inspiron 5593 ,3593 ,5590 vs latitude 3410,5410 which dell do you suggest there are trillion versions. 10th gen i5 , 8 g b , dedicated gr, ssd , IPS display ..

[@BsianTech]

priyank patel Xilinx and Matlab, are the two intense applications you be running well more Xilinx side. Forget the 3 series, my suggestion are put your money into RAM, go for 32GB, 64GB if you can afford it, both Xilinx and Matlab will love you for it. Don’t worry about Discrete graphics, what money you can spend put into the best processor you can afford, do go with the 10th gen Intel core. The 5411 has the faster version of the processor so that’s what I would lean to plus having the HDMI port ready to go.

[@tokakhashaba-gg3pp]

Is it touch screen ¿

[@BsianTech]

The one in this video isn't touch display but you can configure it with a touch panel.

[@robj144]

My friend just got one for work with a 7200 RPM HD only and the 1366x768 display. I honestly didn't know laptops in 2020/21 still came with non- (full) HD screens and mechanical HDs. SMH. And that configuration is $1200 on Dell's website to boot.

[@stage666]

Why imperfections makes life beautiful and interesting?

[@evodgamehunter4290]

The screen isn't very nice on these.

[@vladimirkraus1438]

This notebook (and pretty much all of newer Dells) is a total crap! It has one fatal flaw which kills it totally for normal work: the layout of keyboard, specifically Home ad End keys. If you want to type fast or want to quickly navigate in text (e.g. you are a programmer) then the position is unusable. Older Dell keyboard mapped Fn+Left to Home and Fn+Right to End. This was superfast to use and I loved that. When navigating in text you can simply have your right hand on the arrow keys area and you do not need to change the right hand position most of the time. But now Home and End are in the upper row (the same keys as F11 and F12) and if you change settings in BIOS to prioritize function keys F1-F12, which is what most sane people do, then you not only have Home and End far away from arrow keys, but you also need to map them with Fn key only. This is total crap. There are thousands of people complaining about this change on the internet but Dell does not care. The solution would be unbelivably simple: just allow mapping Fn+Left to Home and Fn+Right to End. There is no conflict in function so all they should do is just to allow what already worked before. The change in BIOS settings would be easy. But DELL just does not care! They probably laugh at people struggling bad with the new keyboard... Unfortunately I bough a new Dell and when I discovered this fatal flaw it was already too late to return it. SO now I have a notebook which is only usable with external keyboard. Useless crap! My conclusion: I LOVED DELL FOR A LONG TIME. THE OLD DELL NOTEBOOKS WERE PERFECT. BUT NOW I FU*KING HATE DELL!!! THE MOST UNUSABLE NOTEBOOK EVER!!! If all you can do is playing games all day, then you probably do not care about this. But if you want to do some useful work: DO NOT EVER BUY DELL UNTIL THEY CHANGE THE KEYBOARD LAYOUT.