Dell Made an Impressive RTX 4090: Relatively Small, Large Flow-Through, & Good Cooling

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@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 11 ай бұрын
Watch our Alienware R15 pre-built review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWnOoaWLfN5obac Grab one of our Tear-Down Toolkits from this video! store.gamersnexus.net/products/gamersnexus-tear-down-toolkit Or buy one of our Large Anti-Static Modmats from the GN15 series! store.gamersnexus.net/products/large-modmat-gn15-anniversary Finally, consider a GN Project & Soldering Mat! store.gamersnexus.net/products/gn-project-soldering-mat Check out our previous review of the Dell RTX 3090: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWnOZoN5oqugbcU Or our review of the Dell PSU! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGjLf6Crnt-AeJo
@Av-vd3wk
@Av-vd3wk 11 ай бұрын
Get a haircut, hippie.
@CompatibilityMadness
@CompatibilityMadness 11 ай бұрын
To get "flat" frequency on power limited card, you simply need to undervolt the card (with "strix card frequency being the target). With low enough vGPU, power limit stops being an issue. At this point, the only question is how good is GPU die quality of your Dell card ?
@varishsingh
@varishsingh 11 ай бұрын
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@rawdez_
@rawdez_ 11 ай бұрын
tech reviewers became a joke. they are basically shills now making ads for overpriced x3-4 times ngreedia/ayyymd crap. corporations set prices for freaking stupid GAMING devices like its money printing machines... and reviewers stay silent about that. either reviewers are shills now or stupid AF if they don't notice whats going on. tech reviewers DEFINITELY SHOULD CRY MORE, to the point of ignoring products reviews and making videos about HOW MUCH OVERPRICED IT IS instead of doing tests.... khhm, I mean ADS for overpriced AF GPUs. talk about the fact that all these cards are irrelevant as they are overpriced x3-4 times, and e.g. actually the 4070 is a xx50ti class card. and shoud be priced accordingly below $200, as xx50ti cards were priced pre-mining. tech reviewers must talk about the fact that a true xx70 card is the 4080 16GB, 30% less performance than a top card (the 4090) is what xx70 cards were all about. talk about the fact that xx70 GPUs cost around 300 bucks in 2016 pre-mining. remind people that no one in 2016 considered ngreedia GPUs cheap, so even if they get to pre-mining prices they still actually would not be cheap. it'd just be way more justified pricing than what we have now. and don't forget to mention that 1080p is extreme budget in 2023, we aren't in 2016 anymore, with current monitor prices 1440p is the new norm. talk about the fact that any 1080p GPUs must be considered extreme budget and be priced around 100-150 bucks. just like 1080p monitors they are only suitable for. e.g. the 4070 is DEFINITELY an entry-level below $200 xx50Ti class card. talk about that a 4090 die 608mm2 costs 300 bucks MAX to make according to wafer calcs and 2 y.o. TSMC prices per wafer, its more like 200-250 bucks now. a 4080 die 379mm2 costs 150 bucks MAX. and ngreedia is trying to sell 60-class cut down silicon 295mm2 that worth around 50 bucks as 4070ti for 800 bucks with 12gb VRAM, they even tried to sell it like 80-class silicon for 900 bucks at first. and its on OVERPRICED AF TOP TSMC NODES. you easily can release 4070/ti/4060/ti tech on WAY CHEAPER NODES. yep, it would eat a bit more power. and those dies would cost not 50 bucks from TSMC (which is by itself should allow to sell 4070ti for 200 bucks) but like 10 bucks to make. so 4070ti literally is possible and would be VERY profitable for 200 bucks. but we are dealing with ngreedia here milking the market. same as ayyyymd and intool. ALL TECH TUBERS DEFINITELY SHOULD CRY MORE. as is "tech reviewers" ACTUALLY ARE NGREEDIA/AMD SHILLS who normalize overpriced x3-4 time GPUs by ignoring HOW MUCH it all overpriced and not crying about it all the time. YES. YOU - TECH TUBERS. ARE. SHILLS. whether you realize that or not. period.
@rawdez_
@rawdez_ 11 ай бұрын
all tech tubers at this point are just like you - useless to gamers joke of a "reviewer" who KILL PC GAMING because game devs are forced to make games for AFFORDABLE hardware and nobody makes games for overpriced AF hardware that nobody can afford. if you bought 4000 ngreedia card you've swindled yourself because your overpriced AF PC is useless for gaming (way too redundant if you will) and will be useless until its level of performance gets to way more affordable price. like 5 times cheaper. which with "tech tubers" advertising-normalizing-promoting overpriced AF crap hardware won't happen soon. all tech tubers are "constantly complaining about the prices of GPUs", there's a catch though - they all say stupid shit like "it must be 25 -50-100 bucks cheaper" BUT GPUs ARE OVERPRICED X3-4 TIMES! overprice is NOT 100, not even 200 bucks. its literally 3-4 TIMES! GTX 980 Ti Die Size 601 mm2 2015 Launch Price 650USD GTX 980 Die Size 398 mm2 15% slower 550 USD GTX 970 Die Size 398 mm2 30% slower 330 USD RTX 4090 Die Size 609 mm2 Launch Price 1600 USD RTX 4080 Die Size 379 mm2 30% slower 1200 USD. its a xx70 card. RTX 4090 must cost 600 bucks, its OVERPRICED 1000 DOLLARS. RTX 4080 must cost 300 bucks, its OVERPRICED 900 DOLLARS. 600 & 300 bucks are normal prices for such devices because TECHNOLOGICAL PROGRESS, mf-er, ever heard of it? yeah, ngreedia can sell 4 times less GPUs for 4 times more money each and get the same profits, yet gamers will have 4 times less new faster GPUs and game devs don't make games for overpriced AF hardware, game devs make games for hardware that MOST people can afford to have a player base to sell games to. +most new GPUs have like 0 progress = thats how ngreedia is killing PC gaming with its overpriced x4 times crap. when you buy a top overpriced AF GPU there will be minimal amount of games that actually need such GPUs. and most new "hard to run" games actually is boring AF crap with bad gameplay and stupid storylines. and YOU SUPPORT GREEDY AF CORPORATIONS AND DEATH OF PC GAMING through overprice. and ayyymd isn't better - supporting overprice to sell more obsolete cheap-to-make high-margin ps5/xbox chips to sony/ms. ayyymd supports ngreedia overprice to push PC gamers buy crap consoles. and both corporations are making profits of slowing down technological progress. no progress = no price drops. people really should ONLY get used GPUs and don't feed GREEDY AF corporations at this point. and "tech tubers" are a sad joke with fish memory because they never seem to remember pre-mining prices, which is 2015, always comparing TO MINING PRICES WHEN GPUs LITERALLY WERE MONEY PRINTING MACHINES. THEY aren't anymore. GPUs are JUST GAMING DEVICES and MUST BE priced accordingly as such, 500-600 bucks MUST BE TOP GPU PRICES, xx70 class cards like "the 4080" MUST BE around 300 bucks just like pre-mining when NOBODY EVEN CONSIDERED THAT CHEAP.
@cszolee7979
@cszolee7979 11 ай бұрын
The flaw of unacceptably high quality will be remedied in the next revision.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 11 ай бұрын
Noooo hahahaha. Actually laughed at this one. Please don't patch out the quality!
@jonathanellis6097
@jonathanellis6097 11 ай бұрын
It's better than the bare minimum! It's overbuilt, quick cut some costs!
@TTS-TP
@TTS-TP 11 ай бұрын
​@GamersNexus I feel like this is been The Cry of many of us for years. This is Dell's Playbook
@imperatorpalpatine3978
@imperatorpalpatine3978 11 ай бұрын
This is actually one of the prettiest graphics cards out there, I think. It looks simple and sleek, and seems to not be crap, which is also cool.
@Walczyk
@Walczyk 11 ай бұрын
i just ordered two alienware pcs just for the cards to put in my own build. awesome purchase
@LagiohX3
@LagiohX3 11 ай бұрын
really
@Walczyk
@Walczyk 11 ай бұрын
@@LagiohX3 no
@LagiohX3
@LagiohX3 11 ай бұрын
@@Walczyk oh
@arnox4554
@arnox4554 11 ай бұрын
What drew my eye to this card by far though was how relatively slim it is. You got ALL these manufacturers making these hulking monstrosities, and here, we have Dell making a cooler that's actually kinda close to being a two-slotter. That's really impressive and something to be praised. Two-slot cards should be the norm, not the exception.
@Jahdoh
@Jahdoh 11 ай бұрын
Wow, never thought I'd see the day when Steve compliments an Alienware. This video needs to be archived in a national library of history.
@vdevov
@vdevov 11 ай бұрын
I genuinely have purchased quite a few Dell GPUs second hand. (The most powerful GPU one could reasonably fit in the old 2012 Mac Pro was the 2-slot Dell 6800XT.). I’ve also been genuinely impressed with them.
@Sgt_SealCluber
@Sgt_SealCluber 11 ай бұрын
It would be nice if Dell could make most of their products to the same quality standards. I have a Dell Inspiron i7559-763BLK I got in 2016 and it is very well designed, the bottom cover to get to all the replaceable components (including the battery) is ONE panel with ONE captive screw. It was also very well priced at the time, $800 for a 15" i5-6300HQ Processor up to 3.2GHz, 8GB DDR3, 256GB SATA M.2, GTX 960M
@Dan-Simms
@Dan-Simms 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for blocking off the flow through area as a test, that recent design choice really does work. I figured it was better and now there are numbers to back that up.
@SharkBoy87
@SharkBoy87 11 ай бұрын
After the Army- I bought a dream machine. An Alienware Area 51 ALX. It was so heavy, so absurd, with moving vents. It was like turning on a space ship, all to max out that Windows Performance score. I remember swinging the side vault open and was wired for 6! hard drives. I bought a ton of 1TB drives and that was my first intro to SSD's and SLI. I don't think any tech will compete to that unboxing, despite us now having 24TB drives, 4090's, etc.
@Kroyer102
@Kroyer102 11 ай бұрын
Maybe a suggestion, when mentioning and showing previews of previous video, maybe add an date to it. Probably just a month and year is good enough. I struggled to remember how many years it was since your first Dell Alienware prebuilt video, so having that shown instead of having to look it up can be useful especially on a long stretched out "series" on a certain topic that spans for several years. Edit: One link to the video is in the pinned comments but not the others
@kasarnfla
@kasarnfla 11 ай бұрын
This is genuinely the most unbiased channels on KZbin that gives great advice to manufacturers. If your products good, they will pay you on the back. If your product is trash, you’ll be exposed. Great journalism👍👍👍.
@Zapdos0145
@Zapdos0145 11 ай бұрын
when i think of dell generally speaking i do think of like “engineered” products even if the engineering is normally for the worse. sometimes it works out.
@SpectreMK23
@SpectreMK23 11 ай бұрын
Really? How many have you owned?
@Zapdos0145
@Zapdos0145 11 ай бұрын
@@SpectreMK23 more than i care to admit due to work
@Derkiboi
@Derkiboi 11 ай бұрын
​@@SpectreMK23i think the Alienware reviews backup that claim
@SpectreMK23
@SpectreMK23 11 ай бұрын
Well I'm loving my R16. Peace boys!✌
@Zapdos0145
@Zapdos0145 11 ай бұрын
@@Navi_xoo dell as a corporate entity probably has little to do with it but dell the company definitely makes it and it’s probably pretty cost effective too, if they didn’t make it themselves that would cost even more money over what nvidia is already charging for the core
@ray73864
@ray73864 11 ай бұрын
It should be noted that those 'Warranty void if removed' stickers are really only useless in the US. Outside of the US, it depends on the country and what consumer protections they have in place when it comes to warranties. So I wouldn't be surprised if the sticker is only missing on the US version of the 4090, it's possible on international versions that the sticker is present.
@aztracker1
@aztracker1 11 ай бұрын
Not too surprised. Dell has usually done pretty good with video cards in general. I've also appreciated some of the things they've done for air flow control in the past. It's mostly when they try to make something look cool they screw it all up. They should take some cues from Fractal Design on that front.
@endfm
@endfm 11 ай бұрын
lol
@hankkingsley2792
@hankkingsley2792 11 ай бұрын
Still using the power supply, RAM, CPU, AIO, and a fan from someone's R10 they sold me cheap (to get their 2080 during COVID). A $50 z-390 from ebay, $40 in 140mm fans, and a new Y60 case and I have a good enough machine to wait for an "9800X3D" or "15900K" rebuild.
@deviousmeuk
@deviousmeuk 11 ай бұрын
I bought one if these off ebay for £830 a few hours before this video was released and I was happy the review didn't trash it 😂
@alejandrocalori6298
@alejandrocalori6298 11 ай бұрын
Okay, now for more science: What about doing a thermal pad and thermal paste replacement to sort of match the (most likely) higher quality pads and paste from the strix model?
@hotdogsarepropaganda
@hotdogsarepropaganda 11 ай бұрын
This! I know they are already doing so much but I want to see things taken to the max and really trimmed and geared out. Flashy a different bios on it, and see what it can do! I realize its likely they dont have the time to produce all of that
@GENKI_INU
@GENKI_INU 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, it doesn't need it. These temperatures are all already under 80C (except GPU hotspot which is still great) at under 2000 rpm, which is a massive improvement over most last-gen 3090's where 95C+ memory hotspot temperatures were common across AIB's.
@olising8843
@olising8843 3 ай бұрын
It’s hilarious that you can tell which divisions/departments in dell actually care about what they’re doing, and which ones don’t.
@Bambam21476
@Bambam21476 3 ай бұрын
Have a R-16 with a 4090. Handles anything thrown at it so if you want a pre-build this one is excellent with this card.
@CrumblingLeech
@CrumblingLeech 11 ай бұрын
Wish they can sell their OEM cards as is, this looks really well made for the size
@jamesmullane6337
@jamesmullane6337 11 ай бұрын
i bought a Dell RTX3090 to fit a small form factor case, and it was amazing, performance and temps were great even in a case with terrible airflow, they are definitely not the best looking cards, but GPUs and monitors are pretty much the only thing Dell still makes well
@swampmullet
@swampmullet 11 ай бұрын
I have a real love/hate relationship with Dell. Their business hardware (Latitudes, Precisions, Optiplexes, PowerEdges) can be found for cheap en masse from government/corporate auctions; they’re super easy to service and are built to last. As for their consumer hardware… a broken clock is still right twice a day, right?
@Lauterec
@Lauterec 11 ай бұрын
Scored this card on Marketplace for $1100 about 4 months ago. Great card! Pretty compact for a 4090. Love it's black muted aesthetic. Very silent compared to my old FE 980.
@Intrepid17011
@Intrepid17011 11 ай бұрын
I actually love the oldschool design on the DEll 4090, looks really nice. Just plain and simple. No weird angles, falshy colors or useless plastic stuff to make it look like a cheap Powerrangers knockoff from 1980.
@Nevakonaza.
@Nevakonaza. 11 ай бұрын
I like how easy it seems to be to take apart vs the Founders cards or partner cards who really do make it difficult to take the cards apart just for a service of new paste etc.
@benjaminoechsli1941
@benjaminoechsli1941 11 ай бұрын
Steve has mentioned in previous Alienware episodes that Dell keeps an incredible team of talented engineers chained up in their basement and working on keeping their ancient case tooling alive (I'm paraphrasing, of course, but the sentiment should be accurate). Not surprised that those engineers are 2/2 with graphics cards. _Thanks, Steve!_
@bw4593
@bw4593 11 ай бұрын
Honestly the hidden parts of this GPU were impressively attractive! Love that nickel plating
@jakep1481
@jakep1481 11 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see how the card would perform with the recently released tool that allow for bios flashing regardless of card manufacturer for the 3000,4000 series cards. Flash it with a bios with overclocking enabled and perhaps a higher power target.
@jamesbrendan5170
@jamesbrendan5170 11 ай бұрын
Steve, in 21:53, what is that waifu case? Will you be reviewing it soon in the future? Maybe even do a build with those waifu GPUs from Yeston?
@David-he7nw
@David-he7nw 11 ай бұрын
Got a dell during the gpu pandemic just for the 6800xt and it worked fine. But less than a year later it messed up and after much trouble shooting I found out it was the thermal pads.
@technewb8241
@technewb8241 11 ай бұрын
"Warranty void if removed" stickers are only un-enforceable if the FTC actually does their job. The manufacturer can and does enforce them, because they know there's no recourse. Zotac and AsRock are both enforcing their tamper seals, because the FTC lets them get away with it and any lawsuit brought against them will QUICKLY get buried in red tape. These manufacturers know that any attempt to fight them will take years and instantly become more expensive than a replacement card
@blackrifle6736
@blackrifle6736 11 ай бұрын
*So right! Have you been watching Louis Rossman's videos? Cheers!*
@johngalactus4014
@johngalactus4014 11 ай бұрын
I have a Dell 3080 Ti and 3090. Both have been working really well for over 2 years now. The amount of "crap" I get whenever I make a comment about using OEM GPUs are baffling - you get similar performance, decent cooling and no fancy extras + for the overall system build, it is not overpriced like AIBs.
@enpinion
@enpinion 10 ай бұрын
I love vendors design TBH. Like, the small rail like retainers prevent bent or dislocated from slots (which is actually a part of PCI standard) but almost every DIY PC part markets don't even care about such small details. So make people buy aftermarket retainers or such.
@chincemagnet
@chincemagnet 11 ай бұрын
It wasn’t until maxed the voltage I could get a decent clock speed from my Dell GPU, it didn’t really get to a higher voltage usually, but it helped a lot, if you haven’t tried that. Got much closer to actual stock voltage 1.05v
@Wayofthelao
@Wayofthelao 11 ай бұрын
In what universe does our dearly beloved Steve ever use the word Dell and good , in the same sentence?
@lindah6954
@lindah6954 11 ай бұрын
I would like to know the inside of a case temperature between the 2 cards. In some cases, getting the heat out of the cases is a small challenge. I see this on pre-build Gaming PCs. They have mass of power, but they didn't think it through on how the heat buildup would affect other components. I corrected the air flow on many of these pre-builds. Sometimes even having to change cases.
@Mr8ohms
@Mr8ohms 11 ай бұрын
Yes we remember the dell pc review, you will never let us forget it.
@iamdarkyoshi
@iamdarkyoshi 11 ай бұрын
"GN Calibrated Gorilla Tape" For real though, actually impressive card for an OEM
@kitsune2858
@kitsune2858 11 ай бұрын
My first gaming PC was a pre-Dell Alienware. The huge alien head case with very little in the way of airflow, green :) I think it was an i5, but it got stuck to the cooler fins cause I guess they used liquid metal, I still have the cpu/finstack combo and the green case lol :) I ran EQ, FarCry, and later WoW with absolutely no issues.
@cj_zak1681
@cj_zak1681 11 ай бұрын
I seem to remember HP getting praise for one their GPUs in I think an Omen PC...seems like most of these GPUs in OEM builds are surprisingly well made. Would be great if they put the same amount of thought into their case cooling
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 11 ай бұрын
I love the green PCB so much.
@renob422003
@renob422003 11 ай бұрын
@11:20 those are to prevent static discharges. Intentionally made.
@Akab
@Akab 11 ай бұрын
I love oem parts because they are like game levels: as soon as you leave the designated area, they shows their true colors! 😂
@AlpineTheHusky
@AlpineTheHusky 11 ай бұрын
Having the shroud on the back guide the air down like that allows for higher air speeds across the motherboard and reduces turbulance from top to bottom of the card
@Maxi86inAction
@Maxi86inAction 11 ай бұрын
I just noticed that EVGA 10 series card in the background and it gave me nostalgia.
@queden1841
@queden1841 11 ай бұрын
This makes it very clear how much of a difference there's between their departments
@blackrifle6736
@blackrifle6736 11 ай бұрын
*Agreed. Dell focuses their engineering talent where the margins are the highest. Workstations built for LTC clients like Boeing are superb, go 24/7/365 without failures. The same can be said for hp W/S products for L-M and Raytheon. Like the racers say: "Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go?"*
@samserious1337
@samserious1337 11 ай бұрын
20:28 warranty, less burned gpus that need to be replaced.
@rmarquez491
@rmarquez491 11 ай бұрын
I bought a Dell alienware aurora R 15 rtx 4090 i9 13900F AIRCOOLED like 2 months ago and it hasn’t given me any problems so far.
@doomsayr_x
@doomsayr_x 7 ай бұрын
I have the Alienware Aurora R16 with a rtx 4090 and a i9 14900kf and I couldn't be happier.
@cameronmorrell2899
@cameronmorrell2899 11 ай бұрын
Any chance that Dell eventually makes cards for non-prebuilt retail?
@kapunas
@kapunas 11 ай бұрын
I don't know why I enjoy watching Steve disassemble yet another Gpu but I do. 😊 Quick follow up question, why is Steve always wearing shirts you can't get on the gn store? Really only 'rgb" glitch version, so much cooler in B&W. :)
@hueman69420
@hueman69420 11 ай бұрын
9:10 that looks rather impressive for being a dell component
@SalemTechsperts
@SalemTechsperts 11 ай бұрын
Now to attach a Mini PC to it 🤔
@idontwatchtv
@idontwatchtv 11 ай бұрын
This and the 3090 should be sold individually. Would be a great option for smaller cases.
@ruikazane5123
@ruikazane5123 11 ай бұрын
They have good engineers. Shame the marketing team tends to beat them up towards poor design choices for looks...Dell did something nice with that card!
@commandershepard9920
@commandershepard9920 11 ай бұрын
Dang, I got excited and thought Dell released their own RTX 4090 that you can buy on its own for your custom build at first from the thumbnail.
@lategamingwithiainjarvis
@lategamingwithiainjarvis 11 ай бұрын
love how at the 1:42 - 1:45 mark the top of the side panel keep moving every time you shake the table just slightly 😂
@Jonj57
@Jonj57 9 ай бұрын
I feel like they learned a lot from their Dell OEM 6800xt, I have that card currently and this thing shows the bones of what the 4090 has design wise but they didn't quite nail it down.
@HardWhereHero
@HardWhereHero 8 ай бұрын
can confirm that the dell 4080 is the exact same design. Runs just a bit cooler than the 4090 ofc, but I feel comfortable using it in my productivity rig. Rocking a 3060 ti in my gaming system.
@Stepica
@Stepica 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if slapping 92mm fan over the backplate hole in pull orientation would decrease temps meaningfully.
@nastassia19
@nastassia19 11 ай бұрын
How useful would it be mounting a 120mm to the flow-through hole to help as a push-pull config?
@darylandcat
@darylandcat 10 ай бұрын
I came across a Dell 2070 Super that ran a total of a zero dollar cost to me. Quite happy with it. The temps are not too bad while gaming, and even messing around with NVENC in Handbrake.
@SovietToaster
@SovietToaster 11 ай бұрын
Finally, Dell receives the "It's better than Dell" award!
@oliknow
@oliknow 11 ай бұрын
damn that chamber is really hard on my eyes. it looks always like a smooth render, totally surreal
@fcmancos884
@fcmancos884 11 ай бұрын
Nice to see a 4090 at a reasonable weight and sizing.
@famip3679
@famip3679 11 ай бұрын
I’m still using a 980 ti from dell PNY I believe I got for a price mistake on their outlet site , mounted a water cooler on it and still rocking
@NextEevolution
@NextEevolution 11 ай бұрын
Did you get it by mistake in a system that listed another GPU or do they sell GPUs standalone on the dell outlet site?
@famip3679
@famip3679 11 ай бұрын
@@NextEevolution yes I did over night shipping because they were canceling orders so I got lucky
@robmasters3569
@robmasters3569 11 ай бұрын
love your channel. nobody gives as comprehensive a look at all areas of whatever it is you're reviewing at the time. Always love seeing the look of amusement on your face at things that make no sense. As always I'll be looking forward to your next video. Your Dell analysis is always very enlightening. Thank you.
@hattix6713
@hattix6713 11 ай бұрын
Looking at the PCB silkscreening, this looks to be an MSI-built card. MSI's been building video cards for the OEMs for many years now, it's not that surprising to see their ODM-chops being used here.
@Thor847200
@Thor847200 11 ай бұрын
@GamersNexus, This may be a stupid question but would it not be better for your sound chamber if it were carpeted instead of having, what looked like anyway, some kind of vinyl or hardwood?
@Navi_xoo
@Navi_xoo 11 ай бұрын
Not a stupid question. It's a hemi-anechoic chamber. It's supposed to have a hard surface to allow for some reflection. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4bUioebo6dld5I
@gavilfalls
@gavilfalls 11 ай бұрын
Not the biggest fan of Dell, but I really do like it when you give props when due. Honesty in reporting!
@hondaland_
@hondaland_ 10 ай бұрын
dell is smart for exhausting 90 degrees. one big thing is motherboard mounted 30 series cards like evga blast the side panel. it they made a case that has a exhaust hole for side blasting exhaust cards it would be a cool addition for cooling
@hondaland_
@hondaland_ 10 ай бұрын
i bet the down firing exhaust is also restricting it in a simular way the tape did. just blows down on the fins and deflects the air that cant make it through the exhaust
@VadikRamm
@VadikRamm 11 ай бұрын
I am surprised you have not said anything about how twisted is the 12VHPWN connected at 16:44. Isn't that a safety concern according to your standards?
@Ivan-pr7ku
@Ivan-pr7ku 11 ай бұрын
This is probably the cheapest 4090 PCB out there. 14x50A phases with all aluminum electrolyte caps for filtering. Both the caps and the chokes are through-hole soldered, which is easier for replacement, but slightly lowers the signal stability. There are some mid-grade 4080s with better VRM than this.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 11 ай бұрын
Yes, but this isn't undergoing any OC and is relatively low power as a 4090.
@DENetworkES
@DENetworkES 6 ай бұрын
It would be cool if you guys could review the HP version of the 4090. They aren't using an FE version, and there is no information about it's build quality.
@Cybracs
@Cybracs 10 ай бұрын
Is this the same one that comes in the dell XPS
@Adam1984_
@Adam1984_ 11 ай бұрын
I had to pause after the cold open to comment. Hearing Steve say that Dell, of all companies, is doing better than a lot of AIB partners blew my mind lol. That is some *incredible* praise for the usually very sub-par Dell.
@JacobJoseph1992
@JacobJoseph1992 11 ай бұрын
I feel like they also are saving money by not having the capicitors and VRM phases, this allows them to not have to provide overclocking on the card and cutting cost by not having spent on components being placed on the board. Those pennies add up!
@aaronjessome1032
@aaronjessome1032 11 ай бұрын
12:00 is steve hinting around about a Titan possibly?
@fatal1ty3910
@fatal1ty3910 11 ай бұрын
As someone who has worked in the enterprise space and I've dealth with Dell's PowerEdge and PowerVault lines of server gear, I can say, without a doubt, that their server division has some top-notch engineers. Their server stuff is top quality and has been for years (multiple differrent component types have much lower failure rates than HPE for example). Regarding the proprietary shenanigs, it's weird - on the server side they are MUCH better. Their whole system log is free and easy to read, the HPE one is encrypted and requires a support contract and only HPE can read it. Same with firmware and driver updates - HPE locks the latest versions behind support contracts, while Dell doesn't - they are free, forever. With all the strange Alienware stuff, I can tell you one thing - it's clear that Dell's server engineers were not very involved, otherwise it wouldn't be like this...
@blackrifle6736
@blackrifle6736 11 ай бұрын
*Agreed. Unfortunately most of the folks on here have never, probably will never experience the sheer power and build quality of Dell's Enterprise-grade workstation offerings. Having worked at both Boeing, a Dell house and Raytheon, an H/P house; your observations are spot-on. H/P's "client as a hostage" behaviours are the sign of a terrified enterprise. Cheers!*
@justair44
@justair44 7 ай бұрын
Dell has done well with their video cards from the 5700X/3000 series days likely because they had so many issues with the previous gen. Some of it is downright basic but it works well and does the job you want it to.
@JackIsWaCk2
@JackIsWaCk2 6 ай бұрын
Great review! Are you going to review the 4090 R16 pre built pc? It’s only about 3k and I’m tempted
@mafortu9032
@mafortu9032 11 ай бұрын
Dell doesn’t want to overclock the GPU inside an Alienware as the heat might start a fusion reaction we don’t need another demon core scenario.
@ChannelSho
@ChannelSho 11 ай бұрын
I kinda miss green PCBs.
@ajamaan
@ajamaan 11 ай бұрын
I do not see why there is credit to Dell with this PCB, because its produced by MSI. Marking on the PCB "MS-V510 VER 4.0" is a MSI production marking.
@BrightPage174
@BrightPage174 11 ай бұрын
Theres something a bit surreal about seeing that corporate Dell styling on a 4090 lmao
@damasterpiece08
@damasterpiece08 11 ай бұрын
if you can cool a 4090 you can cool anything, they can take a break from researching gpu coolers for at least 5 years and just mass produce this one
@DaveImagery
@DaveImagery 11 ай бұрын
Only thing of Dell's I'll buy, are there monitors. They have good ones
@Valkross9
@Valkross9 11 ай бұрын
Why hasn't any company made a smaller RTX 4080 or 4090? From what I've seen on tests, the current line of 4080/90's have a ton of thermal head room. Especially the 4080.
@NeightrixPrime
@NeightrixPrime 11 ай бұрын
I look forward to buying one in 24 to 36 months.
@robertpearson8546
@robertpearson8546 11 ай бұрын
I see that Dell is still using the 1920 vintage buck converter for the VRM. If they had used the 2011 vintage Ćuk-buck2, there would be a maximum of 2 inductors and 4 capacitors. The 100-year-old design is more expensive, takes up more space, has inferior performance, and if one FET shorts the GPU voltage shoots up to 12V. Fortunately, the 60% efficiency is not a problem because heat is never a problem in a video card.
@ChurroDude
@ChurroDude 11 ай бұрын
Dude, you’re getting a Dell!
@lindah6954
@lindah6954 11 ай бұрын
I would like to see a GPU with a built in water cooling system. Instead of cooling fins. Micro radiator that circulates the heat away. This could reduce the heat inside the case.
@KenOtwell
@KenOtwell 11 ай бұрын
Does Dell sell this as a replacement or standalone?
@jaredcrandall9145
@jaredcrandall9145 11 ай бұрын
All other hardware products (cars, appliances, etc.) Components are built to have a synergy, but computer prebuilts go the opposite direction
@dylanherron3963
@dylanherron3963 11 ай бұрын
So, the Dell 1660ti included in my 2019 Lenovo prebuild, which would serve as the foundation for what I'm rocking today, was... damn well made. With a yearly clean and repaste, the thing never saw 71C and played Tarkov at 90fps. Last year for Cyber Monday, I picked up a XFX 6650XT for 200 bucks, and noticed how, out of the box, the shroud plastic felt flimsier. Performs well enough, I'm glad I purchased it for sure, but you can tell the pennies they shaved off of certain areas of the card. So yes, for the last few years of GN reporting on Dell-made RTX cards, it doesn't surprise me at all to hear that... they're pretty damn good? (Obvious hesitation because of *COUGH* Alienware, and Dell company antics) Edit: Interesting! My 1660ti was also power-locked! (No more than 100% power allocation allowed in Afterburner) I should have considered that to be an OEM thing. Edit 2: correctly pointed out, my brain just defaulted to another 3-Letter brand, it's an XFX 6650XT not a "PNY 6650XT" like previously stated.
@th1jzzz531
@th1jzzz531 11 ай бұрын
PNY doesn't make radeon cards..?
@dylanherron3963
@dylanherron3963 11 ай бұрын
@@th1jzzz531 WOOPS good catch, I meant XFX. Or as Steve likes to put it, the "XFX SWAFT" (SWFT) The vast majority of input I get on a GN page are typically corrections (or attempts at them) rather than input, but fair!
@th1jzzz531
@th1jzzz531 11 ай бұрын
@@dylanherron3963 oh np! I was just kinda confused ahha. Xfx be making some good cards but have yet to figure out how to name em ahha.
@dylanherron3963
@dylanherron3963 11 ай бұрын
@@th1jzzz531 I look forward to my "QICK PWR MERC SWFT XFX 8900 XTX" in the future
@dylanherron3963
@dylanherron3963 11 ай бұрын
@@th1jzzz531 Man, this is supposed to be the "bottom of the barrel" RTX capable card (the 6650XT) but having never had one before capable of RTX, it's a trip playing Cyberpunk 2077 (admittedly at 35-45 FPS with RTX on) with realistic lighting and reflections. I did some testing between "Ultra, RTX off" and "High, RTX Performance mode" and to be able to see the individual lettering of a lit sign in the reflection of a puddle is a wild testament to how far "low-mid grade" tiers of graphics have become. I'm excited to see what 250 dollar cards do in 6 years!
@xmr323
@xmr323 11 ай бұрын
I am going to guess the case at 4:45 is yet to be announced? Curious to hear about it.
@okydokey
@okydokey 11 ай бұрын
I am always entertained by the agressive actions gamersnexus makes to create the most accurate to a rediculous level data possible. A hemianichoic chamber for noise testing, damn bro, go buy yourself an audi r8 or something. Huge fan, just ribbing.
@NVMDSTEvil
@NVMDSTEvil 11 ай бұрын
16:43 power cable is twisted, does that mean the connector is at risk of burning up? :) Also looks like a fan connector isnt fully seated.
@destrozar
@destrozar 11 ай бұрын
I worked at the Dell EMC factory as employee tech support in Ireland Full access to the factory floor. Lots and lots of Foxconn cardboard boxes around. Dell wouldn't know how to build a server if their life depended on it. EMC, now that's where the real brains are.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 11 ай бұрын
You can say that about literally every manufacturer in the West. But if they're branding it and paying for it, it's their product.
@destrozar
@destrozar 11 ай бұрын
@@GamersNexus Thanks Steve(sorry could not resist) 😁
@Navi_xoo
@Navi_xoo 11 ай бұрын
You're totally correct. Dell had almost nothing to do with this product and most things dell themselves touches is shit and overpriced anyway.
@robertpearson8546
@robertpearson8546 9 ай бұрын
I am amazed by how many "phases" their 1920 vintage buck VRM has as opposed to the two-phase 2011 vintage Ćuk-buck 2 VRM. Much, much, smaller (25%), cheaper, more efficient, and better transient response. But the design is not an antique.
@Bobis32
@Bobis32 11 ай бұрын
Dell has some of the best Electronics Engineers in the industry sadly they have to fight the design and management teams wants instead of designing a strictly great product
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