Delta Force Vs. SEAL Team 6 Judged By 24th STS Member

[@davidhooksteadinterviews]

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[@thediner8929]

It seems that 24th STS and RRC guys are the quietest of them all.

[@royalusala8527]

Indeed!

[@qwertyp_]

ISA is pretty pretty quiet too..

[@Justopenminded67]

Its because there are less of them then other tier 1 units

[@WarInHD]

Nightstalkers too, you don’t hear awhole lot from those guys

[@WarInHD]

@@jg3_75 yes they’re not “apart” of JSOC but they have a dedicated company that flies for them. Kinda like SF CIF (CTAC’s now) teams used to be

[@davidandmarino]

Haven’t finished the video but it’s interesting that (at 1:25) he says in regards to delta “they want to know WHY you’re around them” they’re the best, they know it, and there must be a reason you’re in the same room with them. From the interviews I’ve seen a delta guy is super details oriented but also doesn’t lose sight of the big picture… he’s gonna find out why, or pass it along to someone that knows why, but he also already respects you due to the fact that you’re there in that room. I’m a civilian so this all comes from interviews like this but damn am I glad they’re on our side and thank you Dave for making sure these oral histories aren’t lost into the ether.

[@deathfire096]

any milititary force would want to know why you are there if you are not part of the squadron or if they neve rseen you,. DUH! Is not exclusive to DELTA. Try to enter a nuclear submarine on the dock and see if they are going to allow it.

[@fochdion1152]

@@deathfire096 That's not what he meant, it's not a question of security. He means if you are a tier 1 operator, having another person attached to you as a peer means you are operating at the level comparable to tier 1. They are curious what it is about you that makes you worthy of being attached as a peer to them.

[@kcopara1]

​​@@fochdion1152 Both you and the original commentator didn't fully grasp what he was saying. They want to know why because usually/historically Delta pull people from ANYWHERE. This means you could start off as a cook in the military and still make delta. So thats why they want to know why. Devgru don't ask why because you are coming from a higher baseline (other lower tier seal teams so not just anybody in the military ) so they know you must be qualified at an acceptable level in order to make it this far. Hence, they don't need to ask the why. Don't let your bias skew how you view information. I can see the original commentator is slightly biased.

[@deathfire096]

@@fochdion1152 No, this is the military and you follow orders to work with anybody in the military including civilians as the Command sees fit. Just because you are a TIER 1 doesn't mean you only work with tier 1. You work within the community and the regular branch. You don't choose which orders or commands to follow and with who. If your Command says you have to work with tier 2 or civilian intelligence or regular military in whatever mission, you have to. That's why they train over and over. DELTA is part of the military like all communities. They are not rogue or can do whatever they like and with who. The military doesn't work that way.

[@fochdion1152]

@@deathfire096 Weird post. I don't see any evidence they said they had any problem working with others. It sounded like they wanted to KNOW, and knowing things is really the major thing Delta brings to the table as opposed to lower tier warriors. They are a much more mental side. Nobody is arguing they need to gatekeep who they will work with. They are just expressing deep interest from what I can tell. You also sound like you assume I was not in the military, which is a false assumption. I'm not sure if these videos trigger you somehow, maybe ptsd or something? Maybe your one of those old warriors that has returned home and still needs to fight everyone because you aren't positioned to fight real enemies anymore? If that's the case there's no shame in seeking support.

[@ErickAVelezBeltran-eg4jl]

I am a nobody and have never been in any branch of the military. But in regards to Delta vs Devgru there is not even any conversation about which is the best at counter terrorism as Kevin Holland said in the interview that he served in Devgru and then in Delta, I quote his words verbatim from the interview on Songen channel 2 years ago minute 17.10-17.17 Holland said Delta force is the best counter terrorism unit in the world period. Devgru is the best counter terrorism unit in the water. I don’t understand how Navy Seals fans don’t understand this. Each unit is the most proficient in its environment.

[@kevinl8440]

Holland served pre-GWOT in SEALs and during GWOT with Delta. Not a fair comparison at all. And you know why Holland went Delta? Because Delta would take him and ST6 wouldn't.

[@HeathenFitness]

That’s what devgru was created for, sort of molded from the MOBILITY-6 mission, a quick reaction team agaisnt terrorism etc. they trained on oil rigs in the North Sea with German combat swimmers, it was created as a maritime equivalent to delta, like the Jess Buchanan raid

[@hianxi80]

@@kevinl8440 thats not accurate. Its bc after he [Kevin Holland] was out and became a LEO Game Warden for a while, he wanted to go back [reenlist] to the ST6 but the commander said he needed to do a year in a regular Seal team before going back to ST6, and he was like F that. So he was telling his buddy who suggested he go try Delta.

[@justaguy4real]

@@hianxi80 thats what I've heard Holland say in multiple interviews.

[@Deliweez]

I agree for a mission sets like Afghanistan and Iraq then delta are the guys. If we go to war with china or Russia then I think devgru would be more utilized because of all the maritime operations

[@ssvd91]

24thSTS is my favorite SMU. Air Force. Aim High. The only thing that would be more forward operating would be a Space Force SMU and there isn't one.

[@xprettylightsx]

Are we 100% sure of this?

[@jakhaughton1800]

Mike Lamonica is a very sound and analytical person. Very interesting interview.

[@KGSpradleyAuthor]

Good stuff. A lot of Marines I knew switched over and loved the job and mission.

[@BiggFinalBoss]

Imagine that? Real support and not treated like a mushroom! Kept in the dark & fed shit.

[@1anre]

Switched to become Green Berets?

[@nicks6280]

@@1anre I think only one marine has gone trough delta selection

[@williamsmith8790]

@@nicks6280There’s been a few. Over to SF is much more common.

[@kcopara1]

​​​@@nicks6280😂 I love how people on KZbin and social media in general just make things up with confidence. BTW I'm a former Marine.

[@tomwalker389]

I can't find any info about 24 STS selection.

[@Valkyrie-OD1115]

You can’t blame those that are expected to work independently for not being all hugs and kisses when they meet a new person. It’s the nature of the beast.

[@YoManWhatIsThis]

The “2” “4” ❤️

[@BrodyToYou]

Geez man, like every short is a Delta DEVGRU comparison.

[@deathfire096]

he is on a mission to know who is the best. He can't join either so he asks everybody. LOL

[@BrodyToYou]

@@deathfire096 it’s like man, you haven’t got the gist of it by now? The Team House does good interviews with these guys. Check it out.

[@1anre]

That's what people truly want and David feeds us just that. Stop nagging, and just watch

[@KirstenBayes]

And we watch all of them.

[@randomman057]

It's a subject that gets views. Although, it's a bit tired at this point.

[@markdarwin3635]

He's right, 24th STS is the best unit. They are trained up to tier 1 standard to the likes of Delta and Devgru and know the tactics of the rest of tier 1 units and can integrate with them seemlessly. They probably see more action than Delta and Devgru. They're probably the most dangerous combatants on any battle field due to the ability to rain hell on the enemy on top of being top tier trained killers.

[@Frogman125]

Spot on. Culturally different. D boys are not as social, while DG guys are social animals. 24th cats are the best, CCT and PJ's.

[@ronstallworth9421]

You gotta promote your books and movies somehow. That’s why the Seals are gregarious. 😂

[@deathfire096]

@@ronstallworth9421 and what do you call programs like this top secret. SEALS are even better writers. LOL

[@gannethackett9323]

You have no idea what you’re talking about, there isn’t some overall personality between the two. Some DEVGRU guys are somber and quiet and some Delta guys are loud and rambunctious.

[@Frogman125]

@@gannethackett9323 11 years partner. Know exactly what I'm talking about.

[@1anre]

I want hollywood to make 4 CCT films, 2 TACP films, 3 PJ films on the level of 12 Strong Which haven't they?

[@BryanWiedeman]

"Delta never ask, every STS would tell us after a few beers on my GWOT deployments

[@gannethackett9323]

Sure

[@BryanWiedeman]

@@gannethackett9323 Sure what

[@firmbeliever3847]

What?

[@Siete_Tres_LA]

You are not in Delta Force buddy

[@gannethackett9323]

@@BryanWiedeman Willing to bet this guy never saw any 24th STS guy.

[@byronbass5485]

Comment section people need to go outside

[@hianxi80]

Great answer on why he wouldn't go to "best unit in the world". Bc he already was in LOL. When I was in Airborne school, even thought I was Army, some of my best friends were Combat Controllers and PJ's.

[@michaelrollins806]

Delta don't choose the best guys they choose the right guys.

[@deathfire096]

stupid motto, doesn't make any sense.

[@C_dougy]

@@deathfire096makes perfect sense..the best guy is not necessarily the right person that fits in the unit. Do you want someone who’s great at something and has a toxic, superiority complex or someone who’s just as good but is willing to learn from his peers, grow personally/professionally, and can accept they aren’t perfect and will do everything to work on their weaknesses to make the team stronger??

[@deathfire096]

@@C_dougy no, the best is the right person for the job. It's word games. Best and right are the same thing.

[@C_dougy]

@@deathfire096 it’s not word games. Just watch podcast on the A&Sprocess for SF, SW, SO.. they all literally say they want the right guy..not the best

[@C_dougy]

@@deathfire096 the entire purpose of A&S across all SF, SEALs, AFSOC, MARCOM is to build the best teams of operations with the right people. Dudes can be physical studs and shoot all day but if they aren’t willing mesh, grow, learn, or present qualities to make a team stronger then why use select them? That’s why so many current operators don’t make the 24, Delta, or DEVGRU. They are good but aren’t there yet mentally. That Insight through Experience podcast I posted also about that from the operators POV.. not just the cadre

[@PLZU81Truth]

comparing these two are apples to oranges. SEALS are primary is temporary mission. Deltas are indefinite occupation mission.

[@deathfire096]

negative, Green Berets are for long missions because they have to train the locals. Delta like ST6, are intel, small direct action on the target and move in and out quick.

[@benjaminjacks1211]

@@deathfire096 which in your opinion the top 3 special forces in the WORLD. ?

[@deathfire096]

@@benjaminjacks1211 The U.S. is #1 because of the unlimited resources and intel.

[@edwardlittle5686]

Air Force CCTs are the most unknown SOF unit in the US military. They are absolutely as elite as any other, but just like all of them they have a specific role. Imagine a Navy SEAL or Green Beret who is ALSO a FAC AND qualified air traffic controller. They imbed within a SEAL or Green Beret or Ranger Unit, but they aren't answerable to ANY of them. Their chain of command is the Air Force - so essentially, they operate autonomously. These guys don't get the glory in movies and TV, but they probably have the best job. Any doubts about these guys? Watch the video about John Chapman. All of our SOF forces are supermen, and I pity our enemies.

[@MOBMann]

Seals belong in the water … and delta belongs on the floor! Right?? Lol

[@deathfire096]

the name SEAL means SEA, AIR ,LAND. Their name says it all. The only place they can't go is the moon.

[@rickybobby8704]

@@deathfire096Army SF, Delta, Marsoc, etc. all have sea air and land capabilities. The seals having those capabilities does not separate them from anyone else.

[@deathfire096]

@@rickybobby8704 you are clueless. That’s like saying the regular military has rifles and train on land so they have the same capabilities as the Tier 1 or SF. Army DIving is for means to get to land. They don’t even have a full time squadron that trains everyday for operations at sea. You will never see Army lock from a submarine, breach a ship or do underwater demolition at sea because they don’t have the training, equipment or full time squadron or capability. Any SPecial Force operation at Sea, they give it to Tier 2 SEALs or Tier 1 Devgru especially if its breaching or rescue. Name one high profile mission at Sea that the Army did. Name 1. Army Combat Diving its for means to get to land. That’s why 1 out of 6 Army SF are Combat Divers but no Squadron. They are not train to lock from submarines or breach a ship or destroy a ship under water. Their CD is just a qualification. Big difference.

[@deathfire096]

@@rickybobby8704 what makes the tier 1 and 2 work differently to regular military is budget. They get a higher budget to have more training and have more weapons, better gear and more access. Combat Diving in the ARMY is just for means to get to land. They don't have a budget to have a full time squadron, or best diving gear or access to the Fleet to train full time. That's why they will never call Delta or SF to do Special Operations at SEA including rescue at sea. It's all about budget, Army only spends a small % on sea.

[@rickybobby8704]

@@deathfire096 I mean all I’m pointing out is the seals aren’t the only ones with water capability 😂😂 but go off keyboard operator. Never said seals aren’t the best in the water baby boy.

[@travistarr9433]

I'm not a military guy so genuinely curious. I feel like this question is disrespectful and just causes division among the military.

[@yuk6260]

Delta are Jedi's... SEALs are Pirates... both outstanding but unless you 'belong', you won't understand them...

[@deathfire096]

stop watching Hollywood.

[@1anre]

More like samurai not jedi

[@ericj6636]

​@@1anreJedi would be the First Earth Battalion

[@goodputin4324]

Jedi's? 😂😂😂

[@helenmiller5071]

General James Dickinson where is he lives Colorado estates have you lately heard of him

[@JoeMunoz-o7r]

You never learn any thing with this clickbait shows

[@1anre]

In what way?

[@mcgmcg2792]

No dive teams at cag. Can't even get dive pro-pay.

[@deathfire096]

you don't need to float let alone swim to be in DELTA.

[@jagwarz]

If DEVGRU are better at Sea, would that make them better in an overall standing compared to CAG?

[@deathfire096]

yes they are better. ALL SEALS are Combat Divers. You don't even have to know how to float in the water to be in Delta. Tyler Grey, a former Delta said he could never be a SEAL because he can't float. His words on the Shawn Ryan show.

[@X_Meechie_X]

@@deathfire096nope the better one is Delta they are better shooters

[@X_Meechie_X]

@@deathfire096best snipers are delta

[@deathfire096]

@@X_Meechie_X says who? They have better guns? Please.

[@MPerry-ox9qb]

@@deathfire096 shooting competitions. There is a Ranger sniper that talked about who the best snipers are. There are clips on KZbin. Sorry, cannot remember his name right now.

[@h4l414]

Seals are men in the first half of their careers. Delta more likely to be in the second half.

[@deathfire096]

No, DEVGRU are seasoned SEALS. You have young Seals and veteran Seals in the regular teams and Devgru is the top 10% of the veteran Seals. Most are E-5, E-6 and E-7 and seasoned officers.

[@helenmiller5071]

Looking for General James Dickinson

[@williamfieldsjr4144]

sorry i rock Delta but the C.I.A. Special Activities is better than both

[@ricardosanu5467]

It’s literally just guys from all over regular seals, green berets, rangers, marines, all the above it’s not just something separate

[@joken7449]

If I were Donald trump and there was an MSNBC reporter taken hostage by some terrorists, I would specifically request devgru to rescue she/him.

[@equinoxnemesis6170]

If it was at sea I would too. But not in a city or something Delta all day.

[@joshb5798]

sas are best

[@didyouknowamazingfacts2790]

Delta has the best combat marksman in the world by far. It's either Delta or SFG who wins the international sniper competitions every year.

[@joshb5798]

@@didyouknowamazingfacts2790 competition lol

[@kevinl8440]

lol SAS has horrible funding, horrible gear, and very little exp since they left Iraq. SAS commander Clive Fairweather even said in an article SEALs are better

[@MPerry-ox9qb]

@@joshb5798 SAS started it all, but all of these decades later nobody really knows.

[@joshb5798]

@@MPerry-ox9qb delta and team six are cqb kings and unreal solider, but they need everything attached to them in ordered to get a mission done, SAS/SBS are equally as good at cqb but the don’t need other units attached to them to get a mission over the line, to me there is no question who has the edge, but just so we are clear the yanks are top of the pyramid also

[@deathfire096]

It's mandatory to be a Combat Diver to be a SEAL let alone ST6. Tyler Grey, a former DELTA said that he couldn't be a SEAL because he can't float in the water. So we know for a fact that you can make DELTA by not learning how to swim. That's why DELTA is only air and land. SEALS are SEA, AIR, LAND. 3 is more than 2.

[@X_Meechie_X]

Delta is still better

[@deathfire096]

@@X_Meechie_X at what getting fat?

[@X_Meechie_X]

@@deathfire096 better at everything besides water based operations fatso

[@X_Meechie_X]

@@deathfire096 Delta is the best

[@deathfire096]

@@X_Meechie_X Jet Blue wins

[@royalusala8527]

The Ukrainian soldiers carried US flags and pretended to be Seal Team 6 just to fool the Russian troops, to scare them! That tells you who is the best and most feared!

[@dylanjohns8409]

But how did the Russians know or thought they were ST6 because it’s not like the Ukrainians held a big flag with the DEVGRU logo on it so how did they know. If they just saw the American flags then they could’ve assumed it was any American unit.

[@songen1042]

There was also some former Delta/ST6 guys serving in the Ukraine Foreign Legion at the beginning of the war.

[@marcoosvald8429]

Give me a break keyboard commando

[@royalusala8527]

@@marcoosvald8429 Its public knowledge you can google it.. Dont be a dump ass. No one fears Delta like ST6

[@natwolf687]

... That's... that's a really stupid comment. 'That makes them the best!' LOL

[@russellridge8623]

The United States Air Force is a very good alternative to actual military service.

[@seanmcpart832]

You have no idea what you’re talking about. LA is a stud. Smart guy. Great team guy. He has four combat jumps since 9/11.

[@BurnerTurner]

Lmao bullshit

[@seanmcpart832]

@@BurnerTurner which part is bullshit, stud.

[@BurnerTurner]

@@seanmcpart832 original comment

[@seanmcpart832]

@@BurnerTurner you don’t have an original comment? That figures. Show me what is said is untrue. You served? If so, where?

[@deathfire096]

DEVGRU trains on SEA, AIR, LAND. DELTA on Air and Land. 3 is more than 2.

[@kasogod5682]

He literally just said delta has a dive team they train in the sea too

[@deathfire096]

@@kasogod5682 Stop it. The dive team in the Army is for means to get to land. Not on the same planet as the SEALs of locking from a submarine, taking over an oil rig, or a ship or being in the Fleet for any mission. DELTA wouldn't know how to move within a ship.

[@sgedeon01]

All SOCOM units train to work on water and on land. The SEA, AIR, LAND in SEAL has to do with special method of insertion which is not unique to them. SEALs are only the best trained in and around water.

[@gannethackett9323]

@@kasogod5682Yeah they have a dive team, doesn’t mean they are remotely close to Navy SEAL’s capabilities. Guys have said multiple times that no unit compares to the SEALs maritime capabilities.

[@speedracer2336]

Delta takes trained operators from SF units onto their teams. They do not recruit civilians.

[@mrhrobinson]

Delta is the best at Hostage rescue bar none because that is there bread and butter. But Team 6 is just as good, both are equally proficient at counter terrorist, but i would give team 6 a slight edge. But when it comes to maritime ops, team 6 is the best bar none. Team 6 can can take on any Delta mission and pull it off. But Maritime ops are owned by Team 6, and aren't as interchangeable with Delta.

[@olijames7321]

SAS/SBS beat em both at anything

[@deathfire096]

ST6 is tier 1 on SEA, AIR and LAND . DELTA is tier 1 on air and land. 3 is more than 2 and the difference is the ocean, the hardest training in the military. Go ask any Army SF what's the hardest training in the Army, Combat Diver.

[@badnews9635]

I'm sure that Delta Force are extremely good at what they do. But those Seals are just on another level. Case in point, a Seal Team was doing a ship boarding mission near Yemen and a Seal fell off the ladder and his buddy dived into that jet black water after him. I think neither of those Seals bodies were ever recovered. Seal Team Six only recruits from other Seal Teams because the maritime war skills needed are unique. Delta Force is a great organization, but the Seals are the standard of special ops. That ocean separates the Men from the boys. Or should I say "Bell Ringers"?

[@deathfire096]

SEAls train on SEA, AIR , LAND and SEA being the hardest training of all. DELTA are only Air and Land. You will never find DELTA in the fleet or a submarine.

[@sgedeon01]

SEALs are only standard spec ops for rest of the Navy. They are not that elite compared to the army, an organization that has way more units that do tactical things. Every time NSW competes against the army in shooting competitions the army beats them and it’s not even close most of the time. And this is despite the fact that the Navy SEALs have the longest sniper course of all branches. The Navy has nothing to compare well with the army when it comes to formal patrol courses and schools that teach small unit tactics (which are infantry tactics conducted at the squad and platoon level). The SEA, AIR, LAND concept in SEAL has more to do with special method of insertion. It certainly doesn’t mean SEALs are as capable on land as army light infantry or USASOC units. Army infantry has been doing land warfare since 1770’s. Navy SEALs didn’t come into existence until 1962. When SEALs want to get better on land they go to army schools (ranger school, RSLC, SFARTEAC, Sapper school, etc.). The army doesn’t send anyone to navy schools to get better on land.

[@deathfire096]

@@sgedeon01 you write a lot of cr@p. If SEALS aren't capable as the army on land why are they the ones to be called to killed Bin Laden in the biggest covert operation of the war and rescue high profile targets on land and air by orders of the President and highest command in the military. They are highly trained on SEA, AIR and LAND. That's the difference SEA, You will never see Army in the Fleet, or taking down a ship or an oil rig or locking from a nuclear submarine for missions around the world. 3 is more than 2.

[@Abefroman-lq3md]

You know nothing child.

[@1anre]

So a delta guy won't enter a Hailstorm if his brother went into it to duel?

[@GrandMasterWu777]

The Unit is the superior unit, true grey men for real, real.

[@helenmiller5071]

General James Dickinson where is he lives Colorado estates have you lately heard of him