Delta Pro Ultra and Smart Home Panel 2, 3 Month Review Savings and Backup

[@hardymichael533]

Great EcoFlow delta pro ultra system 👌

[@melyndacurriden4986]

Thank you for a great video!! I've watched dozens of videos on this system and your video has given me more helpful information than any other I've watched!!! Thank you🤩🤩

[@NextProjectawesome]

Great job in video, you are literally hitting every item on my question list

[@josephsjodin4837]

Thanks for being upfront about the costs. Most other videos I watch on this product skip it entirely.

[@dosadoodle]

The comparison with the Anker Solix 3800 (13:10) was on my mind, given great sales going on right now by Ecoflow and Anker. The note of the lower input possible from solar for Anker makes Ecoflow look much preferable for anyone with a moderate sized solar array.

[@reginaldwalton]

Oh if I had known you were in the Dallas area, I could have given you my installer's information. He does EcoFlow installs all the time and did my SHP2 install in a few hours. And a slight correction, the batteries weigh a little over 100 1bs (114) and not close to 200 lbs - but still very heavy. 😀😀

[@williamsung]

Oh nice where in Dallas are ya. Im actually relatively new to the area so i didnt have a trusted electrician that i knew so i relied heavily on ecoflows network.

[@reginaldwalton]

@@williamsung I'm in the southern area of Dallas - a couple miles south of Dallas.

[@HieuHoang-py8oe]

I’m in DFW and might be interested in the installer info. However, I got their hassle free package.

[@Tom-hb1no]

Does this system allow you to back feed to the gris for net metering?

[@reginaldwalton]

@@Tom-hb1no No it does not allow you to back feed to the grid for net metering.

[@yahsoulbro2018]

Great video! I was wondering if you could create a video demonstrating how you ran your solar lines into your house and set up your array.

[@williamsung]

@@yahsoulbro2018 you bet I’ll be working on it ☺️

[@yahsoulbro2018]

@@williamsung , Thanks I really appreciate it.

[@HieuHoang-py8oe]

@@williamsunginterested in how you got solar hooked up as well

[@Celyasa]

Same. Solar hookup?!

[@TheSarameng]

@@williamsung thanks for your video, looking forward to your solar lines video .

[@bodieleonard4567]

Are you charging your EVs from the SHP2, ULTRA or from your main panel?

[@eclipsegsx96]

Great video!

[@stevebutler8387]

Can you recharge it from gas generator and connect to home panel thru the infinity plug in rear or have to use front one? Using rear infinity would be a cleaner connection. Thank you

[@williamsung]

@@stevebutler8387 from how I understand it you can get an inlet for gen installed to shp2 . power the shp2 and charge the dpu from that. Otherwise you would probably need to use the infinity to 30 amp plug to infinity to go into the dpu directly. Here’s a link to it (affiliate) sovrn.co/10wvi7x

[@MrBearitall]

Did you have to pull a permit for this?

[@nameredacted5309]

Great video. I also am in Texas with Oncor as a provider. The video did not mention anything about pushing power to the grid for credits but I was wondering about the permits and any bureaucracy hassles that you had getting setup and hookuped with the Smart Home Panel.

[@SShepherd]

You need to go with a different solution such as a Tesla Powerwall if you want to be grid connected, which then costs significantly more to get installed. The Ecoflow products are meant to be tied directly to your home and never push power to the grid, just consume what you generate.

[@kevinm234]

The Ecoflow ultra with three batteries is a little undersized for me, up here in the north, to go off grid. I would have to run one of my natural gas generators on average 1.5 hours a day if the grid were down to live as usual. Or I could cut back my usage and accept a minor inconvienience. Besides natural gas I also keep a large Supplies of propane, gasoline, wood and surprisingly lamp oil for heat and light. In the meantime I am on track to achieve payback in just about 7.5 years.

[@alexherrera3918]

Thanks for sharing the savings nobody mentioned this in any video. I also live in TX and i am considering the ultra and panel 2 and solar, mainly to : emergency, and i wish to reduce my electric bill of about $350. Have few questions: How you calculate the size of the solar panels to charge the ultra to charge in about 3 to 4 hours? Do you advise but the ultra with the installation option or without the install option? I have not solar panels yet , any advice what to buy and who may install them? Thanks

[@charlesdavis7461]

The biggest problem I have is that I live in a Townhouse and take my orders from the HOA who haven't even thought of off grid. I can't just put panels on the roof which needs new shingles anyway all controlled by the HOA. Definitely not enough room on my concrete pad for panels, and theft is becoming a big problem in most of the country.

[@lukem5962]

Still recommend DPU over other competitors? Great vid man!

[@williamsung]

Currently I would probably still recommend dpu especially if you can get it on sale at Costco. Otherwise you can always build out your own type of system for a little less a little more work.

[@lukem5962]

@@williamsung have you checked out battery evo walrus, Atlantic or Pacific? Seem to have more power for half the price.

[@daviddickerson495]

Great update on real world operation. Where did you source the solar array?

[@williamsung]

I found them locally on facebook marketplace :)

[@nishitas1973]

Great Video, I have a similar setup and want to take advantage of installing solar panels, can you please give more details on where you brought the solar panels and the company that can install the solar panels if we buy our own.

[@hawkmasters11]

I have a question. Can the smart panel 2 be used as a stand alone breaker box. Im currently living off grid and building a tiny home. If so I'd use this panel with my offgrid life.

[@rayi38]

If something goes wrong with the SHP2, is there a way to bypass the smart electronics and draw power directly from the main panel? If all your critical circuits are there, you can be screwed if the SHP2 fails.

[@williamsung]

@@rayi38 it does act as a side panel so if internet/ smarts were down it would still work as a panel. 👌

[@IMAGINATIONxCREATION]

William, Thanks for the review. Good job. I own a DPU with 2 batteries. When charging and discharging do you see a difference in SOC between the batteries? I see about a 4-5% difference between my batteries and a about a 7-8 degree running temp delta. With the battery closest to the DPU always running a hotter temp. I think the higher temp for the top battery is normal as ALL the power from the lower battery must pass through the top one. But it's the SOC differential that I am curious about. The 4-5% differential may be the best that the computer can do in balancing the batteries during discharge and charge. What have you seen on your set up? (BTW - I have done the 0 --> 100% cycle etc as recommended by the factory.) Thanks

[@virtualejv]

Hi Ryan im also from Dfw area. I live in Melissa Tx. Very intrested on your setup.

[@SilentFilmRestorationChannel]

Nice video!!! I literally just had a system installed Friday and was looking for info about battery draw down and what happens when you reach the set emergency limit. Yours is the only video I've seen mention this and you also mention a whole host of other facts others gloss over. CAN I ASK - are you able to deduct the cost/installation of the solar panels as well, or is it just for battery backup system and installation? I've seen conflicting info...

[@williamsung]

You can I just bought mine second hand so I couldn’t write those off!

[@3affaf]

Thanks for this video! Would be great to know which solar panels you’re using and the setup/wiring. In the video you show a clip of flat laying a few in the yard, I’m thinking to do the same at least initially. Also, how has the unit held up in Texas summer heat? Is it stored in the garage? I’ve read a user have issues with storing the unit in the garage in Texas, stated it was having issues.

[@williamsung]

@@3affaf hi there I’ve been monitoring the heat currently. So far it has gotten all the way up to 110-115f range with 40% humidity and still ran fine only thing I did notice was solar charging degraded a little. It was maybe down 10-15% it’s usual peak. The next big finish up project is to get the solar panels off the ground onto a mount which I will be trying to diy maybe with some friend help and I will document that ☺️

[@MooreAnalytical]

How well do these units work in the Texas heat? I want to put some in my garage, but I am worried it will be too hot.

[@williamsung]

Hi there I am also in Texas in Dallas specifically it was still working fine at about 110 in my garage now we haven’t gotten a bad heat wave yet so I expect there will be degraded performance at higher temsp

[@MooreAnalytical]

@@williamsung thank you for the response. My concern about high temps is what really held me back. But I bet I could insulate my garage a bit better. Great video! Thanks!

[@mattdelacruz2097]

@williamsung This is also my concern. I am in Houston. How are the batteries holding up with August Texas heat?

[@DonVasquez]

Can you share what panels you purchased and where?

[@dosadoodle]

11:14 shows which solar panels he purchased in the second list.

[@GJKSTUDIO]

Where did you get your solar panels? I want to attach our panels on the roof and Ecoflow has advised that I get tEcoFlow 400W Rigid Solar Panel | . But it's out of stock.

[@williamsung]

@@GJKSTUDIO I see here in Texas there are a lot of private sellers o I just sourced it locally. But eg4 or Santan have a lot solar panels that will work just as well as the Ecoflow ones

[@saeidmofrad6276]

Thank you for your great videos! I recently purchased the DPU and SHP2 system, but I haven't installed them yet. I'm currently deciding which loads to transfer to the SHP2. I have a question about disaster recovery if the SHP2 experiences a fault. Do you know what the default behavior of the circuit-level relay is if the panel encounters an issue? The user manual mentions manually transferring the source from the grid and the generator, but it doesn't specify what happens if some control modules in the panel fail. Will the loads remain energized, or will the entire circuit-level relayers shut down, cutting power to all loads? I appreciate any insights you can provide!

[@rayi38]

Have you gotten an answer to this? I believe this unit fails closed, meaning it's not powered if circuitry fails. I'm hoping that there's some manual way to reconnect power to the main, but if there isn't any, I guess you could hook up the generator input to the main instead. Or to a double throw switch if you want to retain the generator function. This won't work if the generator input also goes through the circuitry though.

[@HereNow-r3f]

With two inverters @30amps, are you limited to 60amps of load on your home panel 2? Or does the home panel increase the amps available?

[@williamsung]

@@HereNow-r3f it does not increase the amount of amp available by battery power but it can support loads up to 100 but that would be through grid power. The 60 amps is also continuous load which very rarely ever happens. A lot of things would have to be on at the same time with large loads.

[@HereNow-r3f]

@@williamsung thanks

[@mikeyfl]

Great useful video! Question: for your solar, did you find a rapid shutdown system that works with DPUs/SHP2? I'm looking at getting permit for roof install and would require rapid shutdown and Ecoflow CS couldn't even recommend a system. I'm hoping Tigo TS4 will work.

[@williamsung]

I believe you will need something like a tigo4 and a rapid shut off switch I am not sure how it communicates with the dpu. But should just shut off at the array/module level. Mainly for safety for roof installs I don’t see why it wouldn’t be able to communicate a shut down to the modules as long as the tigos or an optimizer are on each panel.

[@alexherrera3918]

ho much loan you out in the do ultra? how much battery power you have an how long dies it take to charge the batteries. my house load is 130kwh per day and i wonder if this do ultra is worth it to reduce mi electricity bill substantially. my bill is about 350usd in summer. i hope you can comment .

[@rogermartinez78]

You need to go solar my friend.

[@virtualejv]

Hi William. Who did you hire for your SoLar instal? thank you

[@rob6154]

I'm really interested in it , can it run a 2 ton window unit solo

[@williamsung]

Yea I run a 18k window unit no sweat as long as the start up amps isn’t over 40amps ish it should be fine.

[@rob6154]

​@@williamsung and is the inverter a low frequency inverter using transformers or mosfits

[@rob6154]

​@@williamsung I live around the East Texas area and I'm thinking about getting this unit with 3 batteries and I'm definitely electrical tech savy

[@Celestialrob]

Thanks - what is the maximum pv input on a 3 inverter system? Appreciate what you’re doing.

[@williamsung]

Hi there with 3 inverters max solar input would be 16.8kw if you maxed out all 6 Pv inputs.

[@Celestialrob]

@@williamsung thanks William, this was my fear. We are designing a 24kW system with 48 bifacial panels @500W. We will likely go with two EG4 18KW inverters. Appreciate you!

[@williamsung]

You could also get 2 shp2 and double up. But I would say the output and input is better on the 18k just needs more leg work to get it up totally worth it if you can get it done.

[@Celestialrob]

@@williamsung ground mounted system with about 80kW batteries. Agfain thanks for the follow up - subscribed.

[@doorofmyrrh6225]

Have you been able to setup “Automations” with SHP2 and DPU? I’ve been unsuccessful so far. I called ecoflow and they seem to indicate it’s not possible with the SHP2. I know it was possible with SHP1.

[@williamsung]

I was able to set up the automatic charging times but that was mostly it I didn’t set up priorities.

[@magus269]

Hey great video - we are in Houston and I've decided to start out our system with the Delta Pro Ultra and the 400W solar panel they sell. What solar panels did you go with? I'd be curious to see as I am already thinking of expanding our battery capacity and solar setup. My initial thought was that we needed a backup system but now I am thinking we can find ways to hopefully reduce our power bill as well.

[@OhhhSheila88]

Hi! Same here in Houston! Looking for solar panel installer, do you have a contact?

[@LenisPerezlenpe]

@@OhhhSheila88 on the same boat

[@brandongray9190]

Same boat here too!

[@nishitas1973]

Same here in Houston! looking for a solar panel installer

[@lukem5962]

What’s your power bill now compared to without DPU?

[@williamsung]

The highs were usually July Aug and September all over 400 and now they average 60-80

[@tlteal]

Sounds like INFOMERCIAL vs. "technical deep dive".

[@dieseldawg7132]

I think a lot of these KZbinrs got the batteries for free

[@tlteal]

@@dieseldawg7132 yes clearly and paid INFOMERCIALS

[@tlteal]

@@dieseldawg7132 absolutely. Ecoflow went on an advertising campaign giving away lots of free batteries, free equipment, etc in exchange for positive reviews. What these folks aren't talking about is the horrible customer support (from China) and how some of the Delta Pro's are smoking the homes up with black smoke.

[@TheNature101]

I find VERY HARD to believe that you spent $2500 for 27 solar panels (about 400W each, total 10,800W). That comes out to just $92.60/panel with ZERO installation, racking, rapid shutdown etc... which usually adds 2x-3x the cost of the panels. Also just the QCELL 400W panels brand new go for $200/panel. So maybe you bought them used and locally with no shipping and you have them lying on the ground rather than installed on the house roof or with ground racking (which can easily add $3000 just for the racking & hardware). So I think a more realistic cost estimate for 27x400=10,800W should be used instead of the totally unrealistic $2500.

[@williamsung]

I did actually luck out on 9 at 50 or 60 bucks. And the rest were in the 90-100 range I actually have 24 panels. Just kept searching fb marketplace daily and I’m in Texas a more solar friendly state and I spent 6 months accumulating them. (Got lucky the same type kept showing up) Plus cables some conduit clips critter guards etc. I do still have the cost to do the diysolar ground mount I haven’t included yet which will definitely be around 1200-2000 dollars of materials plus my labor time I didn’t include as that part of the project needs to be completed once I finish removing the tree that blew down during the Dallas storms. I still plan to finish that part up before I release one about just the solar part of this install ☺️

[@akmix89]

That electricain installed it wrong my dude... It's a sub panel that if he where a real electricain he would know that grounds and neutrals are separate on their own bars in a sub panel... It's not safe man get it fixed right.

[@williamsung]

@@akmix89 I see can you clarify so I can pass off to him. His did explain to me before since this is a sub panel he did run the neutrals through the big hex instead to the main or something as the loop is completed the same way not sure how he did that but he did say he did something in that way.

[@williamsung]

He was a master electrician so I didn’t question it.

[@danchesney631]

With use of so many acronyms, it’s hard to understand what he’s talking about.

[@seanohaoda2841]

Ecoflow sold me a faulty Smart Panel 2. Then they refused to make it right. DO NOT BUY!

[@williamsung]

@@seanohaoda2841 did they tell you why I would say check the Facebook group and see if they can help you!

[@TheNature101]

I find that hard to believe, as my experience (I have 2 DPUs + SHP2) is that Ecoflow takes care of issues right away. So maybe the issue was that they checked your SHP2 remotely and found nothing wrong with it? Or maybe you tried to install it yourself and as you know warranty does not apply on the SHP2 >>>WITHOUT

[@rogermartinez78]

And you have to make sure that you bought your SHP2 from a reputable vendor because you have to upload your receipt on the warranty portal!

[@jimbo5635]

Same happened to me. I bought a ecoflow pro new off eBay, but it was an individual selling it. Ecoflow wouldn't honor warranty. I won't buy ecoflow again

[@dlam5342]

​@jimbo5635 just like others things. Warranty doesn't apply to 2nd hand items unless you have proof of purchase. Why would it be ecoflow fault?

[@CanTho2022]

Blah blah blah…. Stop reading from a cue card and show us!