Delta Wing Fighters: Rise, Fall and Comeback - Rafale, Gripen, Eurofighter Typhoon, Mirage etc.

Delta Wing Fighters like the Rafale, the Eurofighter Typoon or the Gripen, all have a similar general configuration. It seems that everything not stealth, and even some stealth planes, is sharing the same configuration.
Obviously there is a reason for that, and we are going to explore it in this video.
Enjoy!
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[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

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[@RaveSharrma]

Please remove the background scores. It's irritating

[@0623kaboom]

you missed the best part of the delta wing history ... the fact the avro arrow proved that the delta wing was the best way to go faster ... and yes it started late 51 early 52 ... and first roll out was oct 4 `1957 ...

[@0623kaboom]

the arrow was the FIRST fly by wire plane designed and built ... back in the 50's the planes that claim it after that are wrong ... the arrow was fly by wire ... fly by hydraulics and fly with minimal hydraulics ... the first triple redundant flight control on a fighter .... it also has 14 other firsts to go with it that ALL modern fighters use to this day .... sorry but your facts are off because you ignored the arrow the plane that proved the delta was better ...

[@0623kaboom]

further the specification the arrow was designed to ... still has not been matched by ANY plane to this day ... that includes the f18 f22 and f35 ... thats right ... 70 years and still NO ONE has matched what the arrow was designed for .... SEVENTY YEARS and counting .... think about that for a while ...

[@rahmansetiawan6052]

you should mention delta dart and delta dagger instead of phantom 😶

[@mrSkandalpolisen]

Very good explanation of the delta wings pro's and con's. Best regards from an aeronautical engineer. Keep the good work up!

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

Thank you very much. You are welcome!

[@0623kaboom]

erred on the fly by wire that was the arrow in the mid 50's ... also the other deltas of the era all did level delta wings the arrow preloaded the lift of the delta wing by placing it on top and angling it down to the tail ... creating a larger angle of attack for take off lowering its take off speed at weight

[@0623kaboom]

@@Millennium7HistoryTech pity you got fly by wire so wrong ... mid 50's dude NOT 70's .. the avro arrow ... one of its 15 firsts of all fighters .. is fly by wire in its triple redundant flight systems ... there are no fighter aircraft today that dont use the 15 firsts of the arrow ... and there are no fighter planes to this day that have matched the designe specs for the arrow ... not even the f22 or f35 or f18 match the original design specification ... NONE NADA ZIP ZERO ... not a single modern fighter matches what the arrow was designed to 70 years ago ...

[@unclejoeoakland]

@@0623kaboom do you ever suppose that maybe the advantages of a 70 y o plane to modern ones

[@AnindyaMitraDigitalStoryteller]

This is only the second channel I've come across that goes into this kind of detail (about a military/aerospace topic). The other one's in Hindi so this is a welcome change!!

[@AnindyaMitraDigitalStoryteller]

@@soldsoul416 Yes pretty much, that's about the only Indian that knows what they're talking about

[@Quasarnova1]

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[@AnindyaMitraDigitalStoryteller]

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You should check out military aviation history visualised, its pretty good

[@hyp3rstrik3r3]

@@soldsoul416 hahaha omg.. Awesome reply bro 😂😂

[@aaronseet2738]

"Why do some planes have triangle wings?" "Because I'm your father, that's why!"

[@Cibohos]

FINALLY I found a video like this, no idea why youtube couldn't show this to me when I searched for it

[@mortified776]

Discussing military technology while processing childhood trauma? I cannot possibly love this channel more!

[@stevenhoman7723]

I grew up around an airport, and so loved watching and listening to the aircraft taking off and flying. The wonderfull thunderous roar of the old Pratt & Whitney radial engines made. some time later i dad got a job at the airport and i would visit him in my school holidays and sit at the controls of comercial aircraft.I was trusted to not play with the control yokes or switches that were system critical. Fun.

[@captainprice4261]

Very well explained. Been a fan since the very beginning,nice to see that you've grown.

[@bret9741]

Like so many of us.... you fell in love with aircraft and aviation at a very young age. A few years ago, my mom gave my sister and I everything she had saved of ours growing up. My chest was full of airplanes, drawings of airplanes, pieces of old airplanes and books on airplanes. I was fortunate to fly commercially for about 10 years before losing my FAA medical. Wish I had gotten my A&P along with my ATP etc. Great video.

[@slmyatt]

I was a nearsighted child aviation lover, and as I peered closely, the models I was gluing together got all wavy, and made me question why things were so wavy... But my favorite model was hands down the Convair B-58 Hustler. So beautiful with that coke bottle waist...

[@flechette3782]

Excellent. Finally someone explains how and why delta wings work. Thank you.

[@moviesthatmatter9340]

Haha, You are a great man. It is not about knowledge or plane but about the child you are able to keep in youself for this long. The explanation is right on the mark. Keep making videos sir, sooner or later you will become a big star👍

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One of the things I like about your videos I've consumed so far is they work and I can understand them even when I am only able to listen to them. The visuals help, but I am still able to understand and learn even in situations where I can only listen.

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This is the best aerospace military content I have found. Subscribed! And thank you for your content.

[@0623kaboom]

pity he didnt research the arrow as well BEFORE he did these video's ... the arrow has the most firsts of all fighter aircraft ... including fly by wire ... thats right in 1952 the arrow design included that and was rolled out in 57 for flight trials .... it is also the only fighter of the time to have triple redundant flight systems ... fly by wire hydraulic and minimal hydraulic assist ... he would have avoided making major mistake like saying fly by wire was developed in the 70's when it was done for the arrow in the mid 50's. ... heck he could have watched the movie the avro arrow with dan akyroyd and learned that ... or he could go to avroarrow.org and find the information there ... not like that plane is top secret anymore since deifenbaker got butt hurt and cancelled it ... destroying a countries pride in one rant

[@jeffhurckes190]

I love that picture of the Fly by wire demonstrator. If you look closely at the open panels, you'll see the DSKY. That F-8 demonstrator aircraft actually used the Apollo Guidance Computer.

[@Christopher-cz2yi]

Brilliant video! Your concise explanation of a very complex topic reflects a deep understanding.

[@MrRne13]

I had no ideas about delta wings , but you explained everything very nicely . I am not science student but very much interested in aircraft or defence things .

[@secularnevrosis]

Good stuff. I always have to explain the importance of aerodynamics to people that think that TWR is the only thing that makes a plane go fast or do impressive manouvers.

[@theegg-viator4707]

Excellent Content, love the tracing paper talks, brings me back in time.

[@Native_love]

Thanks! DUDE! I would love to see a Master Class on Aerodynamics from you! Especially on modern fighter jets! You are AWESOME!!!

[@jpteknoman]

i usually don't hit the like or dislike buttons on videos but this is one of the exceptions that are worth a thumbs up

[@Sky6Knight]

This is very good content! I'm happy to have found your channel!

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

Thank you very much! Much appreciated!

[@LeoErba]

Two best(and most beautiful) deltas gotta be the sleek Draken and vigorous Viggen.

[@rogeronslow1498]

An excellent explanation of the aerodynamics of delta wing fighters. Full marks.

[@LRRPFco52]

When I asked my dad about delta wings, he broke out his notepad and started writing out all these different equations about aerodynamics, pointing out the benefits for supersonic performance, as well as the challenges with high drag and significant losses in energy when turning down in thicker air densities. We were used to seeing the F-106A chase planes all the time for certain Combined Test Forces at Edwards AFB at the time, so I'd see F-106s flying about every 3 days sometimes. I would love to see an aerodynamic analysis video on the Saab Draken and F-16XL with the cranked arrow delta design.

[@0MoTheG]

You lucky bastard. My father is an idiot. Still became an engineer.

[@SandiegoRockstar]

@@0MoTheG try respecting your parents, especially your Dad. Even if he doesn't have the same interests as you.

[@dogdog2257]

Nice video sir thank you .

[@vikrant7424]

I just came across this channel...& I found it amazing....esp the way he explains.🙏 Already subscribed it.

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

Welcome aboard!

[@MoeJae86]

00:25 My childhood in a nutshell. So many questions, so few answers. UNTIL NOW.

[@spoddie]

9:42 insane photo!

[@terrywallace5181]

I would lake an explanation of how the wing of F-4 Phantoms can be construed to be a "delta planform" wing.

[@IIXenon]

thank you for the video! i hope the low numbers of views do not discourage you from continuing!

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

I am not going anywhere anytime soon. No worries. If you feel like helping me, please share the video and the channel on your social media. It is of great help.

[@pedromartinazzo5036]

Found this channel today, best aviation channel by far (on the more technical side) as an engineering student I should know this things already but I guess I slept way too much in fluid mechanics class

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

It happened to me too, don't worry, you will catch up. 😉😁😁

[@stevenhoman7723]

The Mirage1 was Australias first operational supersonic fighter. it always surprises me how small it was, still does.

[@Native_love]

DUDE! I would pay to learn about aerodynamics from a Master Course from you!!!

[@charlestaylor253]

Old fighter pilot's joke: the reason the MiG-19 had such large wing fences was to keep the airflow from defecting to the tips! 😉

[@bastadimasta]

I love the intensity and emotionality when you say my mom at 0:16. Are you sure F-4 is a delta plane?

[@abandonedchannel281]

F-106 Delta Dart is one of my favourite jets, and my favourite Delta Wing

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

A video about F-102 and F-106 is in the pipeline

[@jjmcrosbie]

See 8 minutes in, a Delta Dagger!

[@vonMohl]

Best video intro ever.

[@Infini2k]

Subsribed! A very good video! Thanks for explaining lucidly. It would be great if you could include explanation for compound delta wings also like Viggen, F-16 XL, LCA Tejas.

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

Finding material on how those wings work is quite difficult. I would like to do that but I am not sure I will be able to.

[@Infini2k]

@@Millennium7HistoryTech ok no worries! thanks

[@jjmcrosbie]

Sir, thank you for an interesting and informative video. 1 - Superficial stuff: Your accent's fine, don't take any notice of the criticisms. Plenty of British speak much worse than you do! I don't mind the music except for the early blast which made me tear off my headphones. 2 - Technical stuff: I appreciated your explanations. two points, however: (i) I didn't see you address "Flat plate drag". I refer particularly to the entry into a loop. When the nose is first raised the aircraft at first continues straight ahead before responding to the forces of the control surfaces. This true of all wings of course, but the larger area of the delta incurs a greater drag and loss of energy at this point. (ii) Incidentally the Phantom isn't delta winged. 3 - I refrain from the "we invented it first" argument. I expect the Germans (Lipisch) invented it in terms of a serious research. There was undoubtedly cross-pollination throughout with the British research prototypes such as the Boulton Paul P111 , Handley Page P115, Fairey Delta-1, three different Avro prototypes 707A-B-C as part of the Vulcan programme, Fairey Delta-2 and the EFA program which led into the Typhoon. I mention however that Dassault joined the EFA programme at its outset, but left when they were not allowed to run the program and commit it to the SNECMA engine. So they had access to all the above information. Finally, I repeat my appreciation of this video. Thank you. Regards, Clive.

[@abrahamdozer6273]

I can see structural engineering advantages to delta wings, as well. The airfoil is stiffened and supported for much more of it's area by the long attachment point to fuselage and the fuselage in turn is stiffened by the delta wing acting like a sort of triangular truss. Win-win and maybe increasing the critical loading on the whole unit...

[@RahulYadav-nk6wp]

What about Tejas Mk1? Its wing root leading edge has a sweep of 50 degrees, the outer wing leading edge has a sweep of 62.5 degrees, and trailing edge has a forward sweep of four degrees.

[@praneetahluwalia1488]

My guess is that part of the Tejas wing that is at 50' generates lift based on Bernoulli principle and the part of the wing at 62.5' generates lift using the vortex. This would make the plane more controllable at low speed however now Digital fbw handles low speed stability. The next question is what benefits a canard would bring to a Tejas?

[@vikrant7424]

@@praneetahluwalia1488 yes...it wud be better if u cud explain it ?🙏

[@gort8203]

The transition point between the sweep angles helps place the vortex where it will generate optimum lift.

[@praneetahluwalia1488]

@@gort8203 that is logical. It will also ensure that the plane is balanced. What does the part of the wing that is at 50' angle do?

[@Kevlar67476]

When i was a child i fell in love with the Six

[@kedaringale3733]

Please cover LCA Tejas as well.It is one of very recent(to be injected in service) delta wing plane.

[@tomaskling2429]

Love the effort. Got yourself a new sub.

[@Ellesmere888]

Terrific video !! Your diagramming of the issues/forces in real time are key to the understanding. Keep doing that ! Maybe slow down a wee bit when doing this - I had to ''rewind'' a couple of times to make sure I understood the concept. Loved the quip about discovering one's father doesn't know everything - got a real chuckle out of that. (The music is a bit loud compared to your voice - found myself having to adjust the volume several times.)

[@henrikpettersson2886]

Thos channel deserves more subscribers. Its excellent.

[@Perre320]

Love your pictures... piece of art knowledge. Thnks

[@donwilson1307]

Just a great orientation in aerodynamics!!

[@AndreCarneiro666]

Best video about this I've ever seen. Thanks!

[@williamtell1477]

Another great one! Thank you!

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

Thank you! Please, spread the voice!

[@trespire]

As the story goes, Israeli Air Force pilots practiced landing the new Mirage at high AOA by placing a Mirage with its front landing gear on two barrels, climbing in and simulating a landing. We didn't have any 2 seater Mirage for training. I maintained jets on the 117th Squadron, the first IAF squadron to receive the Mach-2 Dassault Mirage.

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

Sorry, I don't understand, can you give us more details? It seems interesting!

[@trespire]

@@Millennium7HistoryTech I was a maintainer in the IAF, structural technician. As I worked on the magnificent Phantoms ( a few of which were originaly "Karpada" or USAF Toads from Vietnam ), I had a thing for IAF historical planes. I pickud up an odd story on how the 117th squadron solved the problem of pilot training for landing the delta winged Mirage. The 117th were the first to receive the brand new Mirage, so they had to solve all the teathing problems. When landing, the French Mirage has a crazy high angle of attack, the IAF had never operated such a plane. The pilot is set back in his seat looking up at the sky. Can't see the ground in-front, can't see the runway to line up the jet. Landing speed is really fast. A bit of a hairy situation I would think !! And we had no 2 seaters for training new crew. Can't send new pilots up on their own, as they would most likely not make the landing. So what to do ? Problem was solved by placing a Mirage at the begining of the runway, using a crane to lift the front end of the Mirage and set the nose wheel on top of 2 welded-up barrels. The pilot had to climb in somehow, while the trainer stood outside the cockpit on a very tall ladder. They would train like that, talking to the tower, simulating a landing. I read this simulated training worked quite well.

[@jhwerkconsultoriaambiental1123]

HI, , Greeting from Brazil ( deeply south). Go ahead!

[@guyfleetwood8004]

What about the B-58 hustler? The pro's and con's. Conceptually it seemed like a good design, fast, high altitude, but it wasn't reliable. It had a lot of crashes.

[@feliperout]

Great channel sir, in fact, there is nothing like it on youtube. I wish success, because the content is excellent !!

[@daiichidoku]

CF 105 Avro Arrow was the first FBW jet aircraft in 1959. also a delta.

[@chupachups6098]

Your explanations are wonderfull

[@AvroBellow]

I am the largest delta winged fighter ever built. I was the first aircraft to use fly-by-wire and I was also the first combat aircraft with an internal weapons bay. What's my name?

[@callenclarke371]

I couldn't help but notice that the Convair XF-92, the first delta-wing aircraft to fly was not mentioned. Neither was the discovery of the Area Rule by Convair engineers, neither was the first operational Delta wing jet fighter, the F-102 of the USAF.

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

Neither were Alexander Lippisch studies on delta wing. Because it is all described in other videos that you didn't bother to check. But you bothered to reaffirm American Supremacy. There are plenty of channels that may be better suited to your attitude.

[@fyzy7]

Great video!!

[@deepakprasad100]

Very nice video....but request remove/reduce the background music for better assimilation...thanks for such a well explained topic

[@kevinquinn7645]

Love the 2OCU Mirages

[@moshehim1000]

Hi, I struggled to understand your accent, so I turned captions on. Only Google struggled, too. Much hilarity ensued. Apparently, the salt, while designing airplanes, wanted more sleep, but twin wings way more, so he controlled the lanes with elephants... which is weird, because elephants aren't know for their slim figure and low weight, I don't think.

[@erikarneberg11]

Moshehim HAHAHAHA!!! I love what auto-generated captions can do to a language! It’s a great source of laughter!

[@marioshadjikyriacou3381]

Very educational!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@xgford94]

Loved seeing the Butterworth Tigers RAAF for the win 3:14

[@vishwanathshastry1888]

Done with a lot of care and knowledge..... well done sir

[@KarthikSoun]

I wonder why the Flying Wing or lifting bodies never revolutionized the commercial airplane market. The design can carry more passengers and fuel.

[@Karl-Benny]

Cant Believe you left out the SAAB Draken

[@12345fowler]

What I would like to see is the reasoning behind the cambered section of the delta. It is particulary apparent in the leading dege of the Mirage III, and the Concorde as well.

[@LoisoPondohva]

An incredible video, but music is too much louder than the voice. I had to crank it up almost to max to hear you in the beginning, and that intro punched me in the ears.

[@sarrumac]

Very good video, you should investigate the rafale's configuration of close coupled canards. It's pretty samrt.

[@ray32825]

The F4 Phantom was not really a delta wing or delta platform was it?

[@iconofsin5886]

Our very own F-16 came close to being adopted as a delta wing aircraft. It was literally bigger and better. All it needed was canards and a separate tail and people willing to train with it and work in it. But it was deemed too expensive and a headache. Like all good ideas the US government scrapped.

[@digitalavatar5699]

Tejas fighter jet is also using delta wing

[@SuterudoOffTopic]

Poor kid. But that kid is going places, good or bad, but places.

[@csbaca1]

I sure like the delta wings... but the Tornado is a boss

[@DylanDavidVindasLopez]

sir you earned my sub.

[@fullautomatic1966]

Delta wing is so great that no current high end combat jet in development has one. Even Dassault's NGF (SCAF) concept, a plane that will probably never become more than a concept for a whole bunch of non-technical reasons.

[@aaronseet2738]

I think the use of a Pilot pen is no mere coincidence.

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@DaylightDigital]

These are great videos!

[@Ellesmere888]

Terrific video. A little note ... Dassault is not pronounced like the English ''assault"" with a ''D'' in front. It is pronounced as ''Dasso'' with a long ''o''.

[@neuron05]

The Typhoon leans back a lot during slow speeds though.

[@stevenhoman7723]

The F4 Phantom is a most intriging design. with multiple points of dehedrel and anhedral both on the wings and horizontal tail surfaces. very goofy looking?

[@naughtyUphillboy]

Quality content..........subscribed............lower the background music.

[@erikarneberg11]

Mille grazie! Excellent video! Your knowledge of, and passion for the subject shine through- I particularly enjoyed your excellent drawings, and would very much like to see more of them. Did you draw the aircraft freehand or trace them? I have a feeling you drew them, as there is a strong similarity of both style & level of detail. Again, it would be great to see more of them! Your technical drawings are also excellent, and greatly help to visualize some of the complex concepts presented here- it was fun to see the ease with which you quickly and accurately created them. Do you have a background in technical drawing or industrial design, or have you just been drawing aircraft since you were young? Allora- While I read the comments and your responses about the SAAB J35 Draken, I would politely request that it, and the F16 XL and other ‘hybrid’ delta wing aircraft might deserve a video of their own. Even if it is a more simplistic look at a potentially interesting ‘variation on a theme’ due to a lack of data- surely there must be enough information to clarify (or speculate) what the advantages and disadvantages are (lower landing speeds, f. ex.)? Perhaps if you were to include variable-geometry wings or some of the lesser known Soviet delta designs it could make for a comprehensive video. Thanks again!

[@edisonone]

Gripen clearly leads the pack. Viggen also speaks loud and clear. IKEA does make plenty sense.

[@oxcart4172]

Excellent! Subscribed!

[@cocodog85]

when i was at university listening to a lecture there was never any back ground music...drop the music for a better video, it is distracting. and speak a little slow because your accent is difficult to understand. great video. i'm a subscriber now.

[@DefenseNewsX]

beautiful explanation

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

Glad you think so!

[@RobMorse]

Thank you for your channel. When we say the delta gives high drag at high Cl, aren't we really saying that the span loading is high? A conventional planform would behave the same way if it had such a short span. The delta lets us meet low speed and maneuvering requirements because of its high area and low parasitic drag, but don't we still need span to keep the drag down at high G's?

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

Yes and no. Mathematically, you might derive Cd as a function of span loading, but, from a physical point of view doesn't make a lot of sense. The lift producing mechanism, for a delta wing, becomes radically different as soon as the alpha increases above few degrees. The vortex separation starts happening and this changes the modelling. The drag is due to the lifting vortices, whose physics depends from the wing sweep, the geometry of the leading edge or the interaction with the fuselage. Cd is high because you have two monster yet stable vortices above the wing, dwarfing the effect of the two small ones at the wing tip (if they still happen). I don't know if I am clear.

[@RobMorse]

@@Millennium7HistoryTech I understand, and thank you for your answer. For the same span loading, the delta platform has higher drag due to the very strong rolled up vortex fields compared to a straight wing. The delta flies with separated flow most of the time.

[@gazzaboo8461]

It's a great docco, but that irritating, twiddly music is driving me nuts!

[@ghostindamachine]

Very informative!

[@svanteuller7928]

May I recommend that you taket a look att the SAAB J35 Draken (Dragon) with double delta wing

[@smurug85]

Sir, please can you make an analysis of Indian jet LCA Tejas. I promise you will get lots of fans and subscribers from India.

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

I am going to speak about the Tejas, but not in the near future. We will get there.

[@smurug85]

@@Millennium7HistoryTech Yay!!! Thank you!!!

[@thetreblerebel]

I see lifting body concepts in a Delta wing fighter as well

[@AmanRaj-lp5lz]

Finally getting my questions answered! Thank you. Also, it'd be great if you could decrease the sound of background music, your accent is a bit tough for me to understand. Subscribed :)

[@guyfleetwood8004]

Yes, you're right in saying, my questions are answered.

[@loopbloke]

Thank you so much for tech details.I have a small request: could you please reduce the background music by bit. Coz it is sort of hard to focus and understand.

[@veerendrapratapsingh8719]

The channel is just amazing.........

[@myusername3689]

What causes the airflow to leak into a vortex? Is it the swept angle or the airfoil? Okay nvm it’s because of the sharp leading edge that causes flow separation which allows the higher pressure air on the bottom of the airfoil to leak to the top and rotate.

[@Millennium7HistoryTech]

correct. You need a high sweep angle and a sharp(ish) edge