Deltic on ITN

The last run of a Deltic was top story on News at Ten

[@simonlilley]

I did wonder how long it would be before this found its way onto KZbin.I am the enthusiast interviewed by Nick Glass.My 15 mins of fame. The clip was shown 3 times that day

[@steamdieselrailwayvideosfi4296]

I`ve just posted the question where that young lad is today and now i see you`r still alive........... did you go into the railway industry ?

[@sirgeraldnabarro5026]

@simonlilley.. hope you're still alive and healthy in 2021. I'd seen them all before they were 10 years old. A short time later one or two started to disappear ! 😭😭

[@simonlilley]

@@sirgeraldnabarro5026 I am well thank you, busy writing my fifth and sixth books

[@simonlilley]

@@steamdieselrailwayvideosfi4296 Yes I did. Been in the industry since 1995 after 11 years working in a museum.

[@PM-xt8yc]

Dear Simon lilley, you where obviously very interested then, are you still. You can come to look at the engines in real life as we overhaul them.

[@jfrankland1991]

3300hp with 18 cyclinders an engine and two engines, thats 36 cyclinders .... that's why they're special. Quote of the century!

[@routeman680]

Love that boy's genuine London accent.

[@mattbod]

bless him he will be in his 50s now.

[@simonlilley]

@@mattbod Yup

[@noeldunford4955]

No that young lad got it wrong it's 9 cilinders and 18 pistons a engine i.e two pistons a cilinder

[@Trainman10715]

@@noeldunford4955 2 pistons per cylinder yeah, 36 pistons in 18 cylinders, the young lad was correct. litteraly look up the engine and look at its exhaust manifold, knowing its a delta layout youll be able to figure out everything else from that

[@sandletters39]

little did they know that around 15 years later they would run on main line again. DELTICS RULE

[@Stocksy72]

Remember seeing this on the news as if it was yesterday. Was 9 at the time, my first Deltic was 008 at Manchester Victoria, few months later Dad took me to York for the day- we needed to cop three Deltics to complete- 007, 015 and 004. All three came in one after the other. Never saw 001 or 020 as they'd gone by the time I was spotting, but managed to cab 019 at Edinburgh and get haulage from 013 and 002 on a farewell Special. Bloody fantastic childhood memories.

[@thebeast2746]

Stocksy72 no wanking to porn mags then

[@sirgeraldnabarro5026]

I did both !! 😁👌

[@noeldunford4955]

My first deltic was 012 creppelo in the 1960s at Peterborough

[@steelbanktrucker]

Possibly more than 3 or 4 miles I grew up beside Chester-le-St station (ECML) and as a kid I used to lie in bed at the dead of night listening to Deltics coming from Durham or Newcastle. Seemed like you could hear them for ages before they powered through. Again as a kid standing on the station bridge you could hear them coming and our excitement built up until they rounded the southern bend or hurtled over the viaduct from the north. Happy, simple and carefree memories. Thanks for posting

[@evilrobottolhurst]

1:19 I remember the scene of enthusiasts prostrating themselves against, and kissing, the locomotive and it's stayed with me vividly for thirty years! Thanks for uploading, this is one memory that's about right. It clearly isn't the "top story" in the "headline" sense but it's the "and finally" in the "look at this, Ethel, a skateboarding duck!" sense...

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

I know & worked with the Deltic kisser at the end of this shot. A top Deltic basher who in later years got to sign them for main line driving....

[@GWRcustomweathering]

@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus wow thank you for telling us that. A happy amazing ending!

[@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus]

@@GWRcustomweathering See him here thrashing a pair of 31s.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHaZpXmNp9B_mdE

[@TheMoisesgooner]

Nice you are still about Simon. Was a spotter during this time too but mainly WCML Stonebridge Park

[@Lytton333]

Mr Simon Lilley. Wherever you are.. Thanks for giving us good cheer.. All the best..

[@terrier_productions]

He’s in this comment section!

[@stephenpowell5912]

Beautiful memories of these legendary beasts ❤️ Growing up in the Early 1980s 😢Was so sadly missed 😢

[@johnhewlett525]

I regularly travelled on this route up for 10am to Edinburgh stopping at Newcastle only..and the same service back..Deltic hauled..but they broke down a few times on route being replaced by class 47..about twice ...Still called the Flying Scotsman service it arrived at 3.45 pm into Waverley great memories for me

[@scopex2749]

My old dad worked for ENGLISH ELECTRIC. he was a wireman on the prototype 'DELTIC' (THE BLUE ONE) He later worked on most of the others. We lost Dad to the virus last year BUT some Deltics live on. I worked as a train engineer at Wimbledon Depot where they have a wheel lathe and we used ot get them in for a wheel skim! We had KOYLI in and Alycidon once!! Dad lives on in those SUPERB locos. NOW look at the crap diesels we have :((( Class 66 YINGER WHAT A JOKE

[@caramelldansen2204]

Rest in peace! 😢

[@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329]

As of today 6 deltics have been saved for preservation along with the prototype deltic

[@mensamoo]

as we all noticed, it wasnt the same deltic. Tulyar went out, Royal scots grey returned. This actually means that Delly 15 is to this day still stuck in Scotland.....

[@astonmartinvee8]

So pleased to have found this. I saw 55015 at Sandy on the final northbound run as a 12 year old. Of course it was 55022 arriving at Kings Cross on the final train, although the report didn't seem to make that clear.

[@thehoff1982]

i agree. a teenager today would have just looked at the floor, shrugged, muttered 'dunno', spat and shuffled off looking at his phone.

[@DENPTrains]

Sadly my generation don't appreciate the trains...As us trainspotters are a dying breed... Sad...

[@RPKGameVids]

There were teenagers like that back then too, as there are teenagers today like the one in the video.

[@DepakoteMeister]

@@RPKGameVids Exactly.

[@Easternspotteralfie]

Wish I was alive to see one in mainline service

[@laurenceegan6136]

Eastern spotter alfie well, all six of the Deltics that were preserved have seen mainline service over the years since they were withdrawn, and although some of these are currently being repaired/overhauled, it's likely all of them will return to the network at some point in the future (although a railtour would be your best bet to see one in action.) I was born in '77 - so I didn't see one in active service prior to withdrawal - however I was fortunate enough to inadvertently witness 55022 powering through a suburban station in my home city during a period between 2013-15, when it was hired out to GBRf for the purpose of stock movements around Glasgow (it had also been used briefly by the company for freight workings two years prior to this.) You'll see one yet! 👍

[@lukegreen5341]

Some Of These British Railways Class 55 Deltic Diesel Locomotives Have Soled For Preservation. Thanks Mate. X

[@philipboreham9969]

That's Simon Lilley! A real hard-core spotter, and took some stick for it at school. He'll be 46/47 now, I wonder if he's still on the end of a platform somewhere?

[@Bevoin1970]

Not being a spotter myself, yet as I have lived close to a railway tracks for much of my life, Im beginning to wish I'd taken more notice of these machines now when they were around. Great clip of film. :-)

[@hongkongphooey78]

Same

[@mrspivvy]

@bwhugul The deltics were not replaced because they were worn out,. It was because they were a non-standard design with their 2-stroke opposed piston engines.. the HST was faster and of a more conventional design, and could go for longer periods before reconditioning became necessary so made the deltic pretty much reduntant, particularly as rail passenger numbers had been in free fall since the '50s. at least one group is planning to preserve a valenta equipped HST set

[@43177VP185]

That the idling speed of the Napier engines in the Deltics (750rpm) is the same as the full power speed of the Sulzer engine in the Class 47...and that they could be heard for three or four miles on full power...and that they often smoked like steam engines...and that they could do 110mph effortlessly...all this made them special as well.

[@SvenTviking]

Apparently in the last year of operation, BR told the drivers to give the Deltics their head to see how fast they could go on tracks cleared for the HST125. They found they could pull similar speeds as the HST.

[@43177VP185]

@@SvenTviking 120mph - the fastest of them all was reputed to be St Paddy (D9001). I was out nine or ten years later chasing Class 50s, and when D9000 was doing the Ramsgate Summer Saturday trains in 1998/99 I was out again! Memories...

[@JamesCampbell-vf3vb]

This same exact loco was also put in preservation too

[@AlycidonDeltic]

Love the horn at 1:03!!!

[@thromboid]

Yes! Often the Deltic horns sound a bit hoarse and weedy, but this one was magnificent.

[@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329]

good news is only 6 deltics are still here for today including royals scot grey alycidon royal highlander fusiliers koyli Gordon highlander and 55015 which is due to be coming back later this year

[@supercoolguynoob2221]

Nobody even heard it which is why I'm going to fix the time stamp by saying 1:03

[@simonlilley]

Philip. No longer on ends of platforms, but writing about them. I had left Glyn by the time this happened, and didnt get much stick at my new school. Best wishes Simon

[@RPKGameVids]

Worship that Deltic, worship it!

[@samuelfarris1949]

There was alas one thing missing, that was compensated for three years later with the 1985 HST record-breaking run. If you didn't get the hint, they should have secretly moved Flying Scotsman and Sir Nigel Gresley from Carnforth to York to salute their direct ECML successor as it passed through there.

[@Glenn1967ful]

Also notice at the end of this the vintage ITN music Non Stop which was also withdrawn in 1982.

[@sirgeraldnabarro5026]

A tragic loss. 🎵🎵🎶

[@simonlilley]

Well I am a Quality manager in the rail industry, happily married and write books in my spare time amongst other things.

[@jimn1013]

Great to see this again - I did have it on video but the tape broke. And how about 27 years on both Jon Snow and Nicholas Glass are still working together on Channel 4 News!

[@henryb69]

woah! i got goosebumps even though i was around in that era

[@simonlilley]

I knew a bit then, a bit more now, and something about other loco types. keep your eyes peeled in September 2012!!

[@Femmenition]

@andyg3 I have to agree. Kissing the loco was a bit too much.

[@Trek001]

God Bless Leonard Smith! That man is a gent

[@dackesjulag]

Proper old school driver...

[@ianjones4116]

@@dackesjulag my Dad was Leonard Jones another Proper old school driver. If only we had lived on the East side of England. We did get some Westerns and Warships when they were new. 👍

[@MrDibbsey]

I, as a teenager would be gawping in awe too much to notice the reporter let alone my phone.

[@24nov67]

No he's right it did have 36 cylinders in total, remember the deltic was powered by TWO napier deltic two stroke marine engines both of which had eighteen cylinders and 36 pistons (72 pistons combined). So research your information more accurately before posting your comments on youtube.

[@simonlilley]

Thanks for the compliment.

[@simonlilley]

@Bevoin1970 A few years older know than then of course.Interesting to read some of what people have said

[@tintinspartan]

I didn't know alot flocked to see the last run with BR. That proves the popularity of the Deltics.

[@rickskateboard]

"3300 horse power, with 18 cylinders an engine and 2 engines, that's 36 cylinders - that's why they're special". No, big hair, scruffy parker and talking to the news at 10 about Deltics - that's you YOU'RE special!

[@wentonmastermind]

lytton333 - I was referring purely to this individual. The Swanage Railway was indeed a pleasure when I visited it a few weeks ago - people of all ages and both sexes. And the Dorset countryside with wisps of steam. Serenity!

[@chrisst8922]

18 x 2 = 36. See, in them days we did proper maths in school. 😀

[@spectrumanalyzer3093]

Somebody must know who the young chap is who answered the question 'why are they special' ?

[@Bahamas-rd8le]

He’s called simonlilley on youtube

[@gazza1858]

Simon lilley one of nicest kids back then with so much enthusiasm.

[@simonlilley]

Writing especially about railways wont pay the bills, but I enjoy it. Best wishes back from Langley.

[@vorlonb3]

You know I have the feeling that the Deltics are more popular now than they were in the 70s. Marvellous film though, shame it was such a wet miserable day.

[@simonlilley]

The Class 47 book, Class47:50 Years of Locomotive History is out now, contact me if you want a copy.

[@Trek001]

"Last of 22" - I think you'll find thats the 15th one... "Back it came" - no, thats a different Deltic

[@michellemarshall3667]

16th one. D9000 was the first. D9015 {55 015} was the 16th. Rick M

[@aarontrigg9463]

Ahhha sorry mate - he meant last one running out of 22 and back the train came, not the same engine...

[@bwhugul]

The final arrival into King's Cross sounds like the horn blown to tell the trolls to open the Black Gate (Lord of the Rings - Two Towers)

[@Glenn1967ful]

I can remember seeing thse frequently in Newcastle in the seventies.

[@andr3wbr1dg3s]

Late 70's I spent my entire weekends at Central Station. I wonder if we knew each other?

[@Glenn1967ful]

@@andr3wbr1dg3s Possibly not as we'd moved to Whitehaven in 1976 and was still a kid, but I do remember seeing Deltics when we used the train from Carlisle to Newcastle. Also remember seeing one flying through the LC at Widdrington in 1980.

[@simonlilley]

@DiddlyDom 18 cylinders in each engine. Two engines in each loco that makes 36. I did get it right

[@truetothegame2928]

jack darcy my neighbour bowing down

[@mickd6942]

You know nothing John snow , Deltics forever

[@railandmodel]

Cheers for that. I really hope they don't scrap her :-/

[@MarttiSuomivuori]

That was Great Britain still.

[@davew2452]

Brilliant

[@BREGmatt]

so sad ;( dnt think anyone filmed in between the deltic blowing its horn and hst arriving blowing the hst horn set aload of booooooos wish someone filmed that lol deltics are the best uk diesels by far ;)

[@simonirvine1628]

Extreme power at the end of his hand....Jesus Jake....

[@TheRoute19]

Bob Fraser is the lad kissing the engine nose, or so I believe

[@routeman680]

Jon Snow as an ITN newsreader, before he became a propagandist on Channel 4 "News", as he remains today (2019)..

[@wentonmastermind]

Simon - I try to make writing my decent job, but it always ends up as my sideline. Why do I write - 'cos I love it! Best wishes from Toronto.

[@mat12128]

a deltic just sat at idle would throb more than a gm at full power.THATS why they were special...

[@Duncan038]

37 years ago today

[@railandmodel]

We still have 6 production & the prototype!!

[@bwhugul]

I think the HSTs definitely will. They're too important to go unnoticed. Plus they have had a much more demanding and varied life than the Deltics ever had. And I think they are much better-known. For one thing. how many large British fleets have had their engines replaced to run for another 10-15 years? The Deltics only lasted 20, yet the HSTs went on with Valentas for 32 years and have another 10 years left with new engines.

[@20basher]

and you know ya gonna get there

[@clydeferries]

D9000 has been painted onto the RSG recently.

[@simonlilley]

Class 47: 50 Years of Locomotive History. Google the title for full details.

[@mrspivvy]

@tog1957 yes that's correct. a conventional transmission would not work on something this size and power

[@tulyar15]

Apparently Deltic 16 has been purchased by DRS!

[@TheRoute19]

Reckon we will get this send off for the Pacers?

[@hawkerhellfire9152]

9 years later and the fuckers are still going.

[@garethjones8047]

It's happening now mate.

[@ianjones4116]

@@hawkerhellfire9152 LMFAO

[@gazza1858]

😂😂

[@ttjph]

@florianska6 Well... it depends on how much power you want from the traction motors! ;-) A generator powering motors is about 80% efficient, so 3300 engine hp provides about 2600 hp "at the rail". At low speeds, the tractive effort (pulling force) is limited by other things, such as the design of the traction motors and the weight of the loco. At higher speeds, the loco can run at constant power, so tractive effort decreases as the speed increases.

[@peterwalker9726]

Different Deltic, & certainly not No 1 platform at King's Cross, c'mon ITN get it right.

[@malhudson8372]

Fake news :(

[@simonlilley]

Thank you very much.Not something I brag about. I know a bit about loco classes as well!!

[@sussexmews]

1:25 Hellfire!! 80's style!

[@tog1957]

The Diesel engines actually only drive the generators though don't they, I believe it is Electric motors that actually do all the hard work isn't it?

[@jameshardy4354]

Yes that is correct the motors are in the bogies there called traction motors

[@EastMidlandsSteam]

I'd go yay when everyones crying

[@tulyar15]

Yeah, just hope it doesn't get a horrible make over again, like those new style lights, which it once carried and which DRS seem to be a fan of judging by the appearance of they're class 20's and 37's! Shame Martin Walker didn't get it!

[@nedchester]

I was there too!

[@simonlilley]

No offence taken. My enthusiast knowledge comes in handy from time to time. First book due out in September.

[@RFSA180]

STING KISSING IT AT END LOLZ

[@lewisner]

I used to know that guy, "Rob" I think his name was, and he once bailed out of a double headed Class 20 train at Elton & Orston so he could say he had 20 haulage there

[@Trek001]

55016 pulling frieght? Ooh that'll make the Deltic fans cross

[@dampFreddie]

@nedchester Who was the bloke in the long Coat kissing D9000? I remember that report and seeing that guy....

[@dackesjulag]

Think it was Rob Fraser..

[@Seegalgalguntijak]

So why isn't the far superior deltic engine concept being built any more in modern Diesel engines, be it for locomotives or boats, trucks (what the British call "Lorries") or (in a smaller/scaled down version) even cars?

[@Marcsharp82]

Seegal Galguntijak Most powerful diesel locomotive in the world when first built, That's pretty special.

[@Martindyna]

Although sorely missed they were `highly strung' units, prone to failures. They didn't last nearly as long between major services as a conventional 4 stroke Diesel.

[@lewisner]

It's a high maintenance engine plus most UK passenger trains are now built on the "multiple unit" principle and don't have separate locomotives.. Freight locomotives don't need the high speeds these engines could provide.

[@simonlilley]

@Bevoin1970 I'm here!! Reading your comments.

[@TheMoisesgooner]

The guy bowing at the end! 😂👍🏽

[@simonlilley]

@Lytton333 My pleasure.

[@DonaldTrumpIsGreat]

I Like Deltics 👍

[@Trek001]

No, but my uncle who used to drive them told me about them

[@sandletters39]

Until the bloody Health & Safety policy removed the use of the heritage diesels on service trains.

[@simonlilley]

Why? I was 16 at the time.

[@robpri]

Is that David Walliams at 43sec ?

[@Bahamas-rd8le]

robpri no it’s Simon lilley

[@Stirlingshire43110]

RIP DELTIC

[@noeldunford4955]

That young boy got it wrong there is two engines which are two stroke diesel each engine has nine cilinders and eighteen pistons Xtwo because there are two engines

[@Trainman10715]

no it uses 2 x 18 cylinder deltic engines, he was right. the 9 cylinder deltic engines were used in the class 23

[@suzangibson8922]

Deltics have 36 cylinders an engine dont they? If youve seen the napier deltic at NRM, the cylinders are in six rows, and 6 cylinders in the triangular engine, 6X6=36 correct? But I guess they could have 18 since 6 will go into 18. But the rows look to big to have only 18. Baby Deltics have I believe 9 cylinders, and 9+9=18... so which is it? Sorry for the long comment. :)

[@thromboid]

I believe per engine it's 3 cylinders per delta by 6 rows giving 18 cylinders per engine, but since two pistons share a cylinder, it would be 36 pistons per engine. Such a brilliant concept, putting two pistons back-to-back in a compression-ignition engine (all credit to Junkers for coming up with the idea, though Napier made it practical).

[@noeldunford4955]

Suzan Gibson I'll start at the beginning concerning the deltic engine they are two stroke diesel for a start two engines per loco each engine has 9 cilinders and 18 pistons which are opposed pistons i.e two pistons a cilinder look on u tube the deltic engine diagram

[@noeldunford4955]

@@thromboid no it's 18 pistons per engine and 9 cilinders per engine plus they are two stroke opposed pistons the other engine is the same so with two engines it's 18 cilinders and 36 pistons you will find I'm correct

[@Trainman10715]

@@noeldunford4955 and ill start with the facts concerning the deltic engine, no theyre litteraly both correct, the deltic engines used in the class 55 were 6 rows of 6 pistons layed out in delta formation with 2 pistons per cylinder, resulting in 18 cylinders and 36 pistons per engine. nobody will find that your correct because youre not

[@landroversrs1]

Deltic call up for service, according to BBC news, tis morning.

[@railandmodel]

Who owns 016? Maybe we could find out from the owners them selves?

[@simonlilley]

Never been on Little Britain!!!!

[@simonlilley]

Lytton333 My pleasure.

[@simonlilley]

No its Simon Lilley

[@Easternspotteralfie]

0:41 wonder where he is now?

[@simonlilley]

Working in the rail industry and writing books.

[@Cooperail]

Look at Peter Snow, 'kin' 'ell!

[@routeman680]

I'm nine years late to the party, but it's Jon Snow. Peter Snow was his older brother and worked for the BBC.

[@brucetharpe762]

1:18 Aww!