DeMar DeRozan & Paul George Respond to Anthony Edwards' "No Skill" in MJ's Era Comments

[@margarinetaintedgreen8140]

It’s not just “respect the OGs.” It’s, “don’t be a complete idiot.”

[@cesartrujillo8813]

RESPECT… period

[@Mandozen]

When Ant said he knew nothing about the older generation because he didn’t watch them, he should have just stopped there. Glad there are vets in this era holding him accountable tho and trying to educate him instead of just shaming him for it.

[@caldwmc]

😂 holding Ant accountable. U really think that young dude cares what they think 🤔 😂 that's why Ant said it. Besides Ant didn't lie🤷‍♂️

[@tee_swag]

@@caldwmc 15 YEAR OLD KID HERE ^

[@Mandozen]

@@caldwmc LOL, if you think Ant is right, then you’re just as ignorant as he is.

[@kingizzo7626]

@@caldwmcyou sound like you like boys more than you like basketball. Promise you Ant isn’t that good to be defending him like that lmaoo can’t be bc of his basketball , you like the guy

[@raisschultz420]

There's so many older players who have said the exact same thing. "These younger players are less skilled I don't even watch them rah rah rah back in my day rah rah we had to really play" type shit Ant just giving it back the same.

[@nahmanimgood.3194]

Tim Hardaway had the killer crossover people hadn’t seen that before, but because of him now players that have handles like that are all over the league.

[@lp3860]

Tim Hardaway and Rod Strickland didn't need to carry the ball to get by their man, and they got handchecked to death. That's why both of them are more skilled than any guy playing today, because these guys carry the ball like it had a handle on it, with 3ft of room. By the way, Rod Strickland made zero All Star games (should've made one), so that tells you how good the PG position was.

[@WheresWaldo05]

You literally just made Ants point for him. You a bit slow perhaps???

[@jayjohn52]

Real talk! Preach!

[@torrencesmith1725]

No, you're wrong!!! Isiah Thomas of the Bad Boy Pistons was the one who brought the Crossover to the league!!!!! Hardaway added a little flare to it. Carry on.....

[@dsg3053]

Casual thinks that Tim Hardaway brought the crossover to the NBA. Passing on more misinformation.

[@MindfulAttraction2.0]

What people don't understand is that the skills back then were not audience friendly. With the exception of guys like Larry Bird, magic Johnson and Michael Jordan, most guys were just straight up shooters. Like Adrian dantley, Alex English, George girvin, those guys were just straight buckets with simplicity. They weren't breaking you down with the dribble, they were just getting to their spots and pulling up. That's all they practice. And if you practice that long enough nobody can stop you even if it looks simple. But because they're not doing a bunch of between the legs, and pulling up from 30, you discredited the requisite amount of muscle memory needed to be able to hit a bunch of mid-range and layups around four or five people packing the paint

[@Hawkhunter07]

beautifully put

[@alexchan338]

Facts

[@king.deandre]

They don't know any better

[@MrSource35]

You wasn't watch basketball back then... guys like Eddie Jones, NickVan Axel, and Penny was nasty... they'd school Cats now in there prime! Go watch film

[@georgiosgrigoriadis6200]

Excellent post. Young people don't understand simplicity. As a former basketball player, i totally agree with you. I also kept finding my spots during the game, in order to score easy and simple.

[@odelljones6482]

And its EVERYTHING Derozen said 💯

[@BeatzByDuvv]

Penny Hardaway wasn't skilled?????? Grant Hill wasn't skilled??????

[@LordBranniganThe]

@@BeatzByDuvv sure you can pick out star players but talking about averages the players now are more skilled

[@davidjacobson6791]

@@LordBranniganThemore skilled is true. But that’s not what Ant said. Ant said Jordan was the only skilled player, which just isn’t true.

[@LordBranniganThe]

@@davidjacobson6791 yeah that’s not true but KG said the other day not one player from today could make it in his era which is equally nonsensical

[@JuicyMcnamus]

​@@LordBranniganThe that argument is just as dumb from KG. The great players could play in any era. The role players are hit or miss.

[@rezzo_6fn659]

@@LordBranniganTheI think what KG was saying was that coach was gonna put you in a role and if you deviate from that role you going on the bench which is true. I remember playing the center position in high school in 2002 and doing a crossover and laying the ball in. I scored. Coach called timeout and put me on the bench. Told me my job isn’t to look flashy. Wanted me to rebound, block and pass the ball to the guards. I’m like wtf? That ain’t my game bitch I’m Charles Barkley. I quit the next game and did rec ball

[@MH-us9pf]

Respect to Derozan for knowing history ! Todays 'ignant' youngans don't learn history and just go by what they watched... 👶🍼

[@TacoDudeYum]

Do you know the history of your workplace and the employees before you?

[@BlackSnoopi]

​@TacoDudeYum The follow-up question to make this equivalent would be if he is disrespectful said people, who made his job/salary even possible. Dont act like its only because he didnt know, choosing to talk despite not knowing is worse.

[@TacoDudeYum]

@@BlackSnoopi are you going to tell your employers that you dont have the equivalent skills as past employees if brought up?

[@BlackSnoopi]

@@TacoDudeYum I would, but that's not what Ant said now is it? Obviously I'm in the same job so I can rival the people from the past, some being faster and some stronger etc, but he straight up said "EVERYONE ELSE WASNT SKILLED AT THEIR JOB BUT ONE MAN!" That's something no one can say about any industry with confidence, unless you're being intentionally ignorant.

[@TacoDudeYum]

@@BlackSnoopi so because he has an opinion that nobody had skill but MJ hes wrong? Is it only the masses opinion that matters? Anthony Edwards is right, i dont see him bring wrong at all. None of past generations would be able to defend PG, Kyrie or Luka in todays basketball. Hell they wouldnt even be able to guard Kat.

[@LeonChambers-b2u]

Drexler was so tuff and still one of my favs from back then.💯

[@benstrong1393]

Drexler >>>>>>>> Ant Man

[@KyNgQuin23]

@@benstrong1393for sure

[@Jamal-sy3pg]

@@benstrong1393of course

[@LeonChambers-b2u]

@@benstrong1393 Facts

[@Soldier979]

Bro was supposedly the second best sg behind MJ but only averaged 20 ppg. LeBron is the best SF and KD is right behind him. Go look up what KD averages

[@chiefgangmusic]

That’s the key word “RESPECT”. Nowadays these kids are being raised by the internet and when I say that, I hope youngsters don’t take that as a slight bc I dam sure wish I had the internet growing up. But for some reason it seems like the only thing that the internet doesn’t teach you is respect. In fact, they make it seem cool to not have respect and that’s what needs change. And that’s not just having respect for the past but also having respect for the future. And that way the cycle continues. That’s what I’m trying to be on. Respect for everyone who deserves respect. And not even worrying about the ones that don’t. Blessings!

[@CCEkeke]

Its a lot of these Bronsexuals who think Lebron is the beginning, middle and end of all things NBA.

[@alexescutia4805]

Respect has to go both ways. We gonna pretend a large part of the older generation don’t talk down and disrespect the players today?

[@kjjr3270]

Nah you old heads are all soft asf. Disrespecting the current gen like crazy, but crying when they get the same treatment.

[@chiefgangmusic]

@@alexescutia4805 Bro the saying is “Respect your elders” not respect the youngsters but I get it and I have respect for everyone. That’s the whole point of me saying “respect the past and the future”. That means the older generation respect the younger generation and the younger generation respect the next up so that way you all can get that same respect back for when you all become the older generation. You feel me that way the cycle continues and everyone gets the respect they deserve. That’s what I’m on. And I get that not everyone deserves respect and they need to be dealt with accordingly. But for those that do, you should show that love and they should show it back and that way we can stop all this back and forth nonsense and enjoy life more. Might not seem practical but I’m going to live my life like that anyway. And maybe I can influence just one person. But that one might be able to influence millions, you never know. Blessings to you though and I hope you get the respect you deserve. ✌🏽

[@alexescutia4805]

@@chiefgangmusic I get that saying and I used to believe in it too but there doesn’t need to be that cycle the people that deserve respect should get it and not every older person deserves it for decades older generations been calling the league soft and saying things like “they wouldn’t survive in my era” etc not all of them a lot of them gave love back to the younger newer game but a lot of them would say shit like that. Idk doesn’t really matter it’s all opinions anyway no one’s getting hurt by anyone’s opinion

[@michaelsousa590]

Most people don't think before they speak.

[@jaysouthmusic8230]

And that's the problem with our Generation

[@benjamingould226]

What about Larry Legend he wasn't the most athletic but he could ball

[@henrypaul24887]

Demar hit it on the head knowing almost the whole league even the free agents and not just the NBA in some cases

[@jeremyrivens2867]

That’s the thing they don’t need to know the past cause all players don’t love basketball some are just good

[@henrypaul24887]

@@jeremyrivens2867 ok not the whole league but if this era play 2k they have 50s,60s,70s to present day rosters

[@javonestephens7856]

Facts respect who laid the foundation and stop the disrespect for real

[@kjjr3270]

Then they should stop disrespecting the current gen as well simple as that. Look at Shaq, he is hating on them like crazy.

[@rojayreid908]

Everyone should stop

[@bigpoppa6658]

It's literally the GenZers who dont respect anything what previous generations have built. But what can we expect from a generation that doesnt even know their gender to begin with

[@YvngGoat_]

WE DONE WITH THE 90’S‼️‼️‼️

[@yahiaali4059]

@@kjjr3270ant literally said I never watched them so everything he said after is irrelevant

[@The_Gamers_Gamer]

People need to understand the concept of "standing on the shoulders of giants.".

[@andrehoward558]

Naw for real

[@nitrox1613]

✅

[@deemac934]

Much respect to Derozan on everything he said regarding the skilled players of 80s and 90s

[@MindfulAttraction2.0]

Being able to have 2 dribble pull-up and master that can make you unstoppable if you practice it long enough and you aquire one or two counters. You really don't need a bunch of moves. Kareem didn't need a lot of moves to get to sky Hood. Jordan didn't need a lot of moves to get to his fade away

[@dmoneylulz]

Basketball is more than moves dude

[@MindfulAttraction2.0]

Exactly. It's about muscle memory, and learning to get to your spots. You don't need a lot of dribble combination to get to your spots. Look at Kobe. He only did dribble moves only when necessary. I'm a fan of simple game​@@dmoneylulz

[@YvngGoat_]

Stop gassing up that sorry ass era.

[@5115neo]

You don’t need a lot of moves when you have a dude who just got off his shift at the grocery store guarding you

[@tys1646]

Ant edwards went from being the beloved team usa hypeman to the ignorant young player in 1 month 😂

[@desi2031]

Two things can be true. 😂

[@jenkericj]

He'll eventually get humbled because he's going to see how hard it is to win a chip and stay healthy

[@Theterminato2013]

I mean he did claimed he was the best player on team USA and the team played through him even tho he was MIA vs Serbia in the semifinals. He wasn't even the top 5 best player: Bron, Steph, KD, AD and Bam had higher impact than Antman did.

[@Celtics2025]

@@jenkericj especially for a shit organization like the timberwolves

[@ktvlogsdaily3580]

@@Celtics2025Timberwolves are better than most west teams stop it

[@CuspOfTheFlame]

mj, magic , bird, dominique, payton, olajuwon, shaq, stockton, miller, john starks, mahmoud abdul rauf , david robinson, harold miner, glen rice, mitch richmond, pippen, isaiah thomas, jason kidd, grant hill, penny, drexler, garnett

[@anferneec]

Chicago Bulls: Steve Kerr - Elite three-point shooter and clutch performer Horace Grant - Defensive anchor and rebounder for the first three-peat Toni Kukoc - Versatile sixth man known as the "Croatian Sensation" Detroit Pistons: Vinnie Johnson - "The Microwave" provided instant offense off the bench John Salley - Defensive specialist and key part of the "Bad Boys" teams Los Angeles Lakers: A.C. Green - "Iron Man" known for his durability and rebounding Robert Horry - Clutch shooter who earned the nickname "Big Shot Rob" Houston Rockets: Mario Elie - Tough defender and three-point threat Sam Cassell - Spark plug off the bench in his early career Utah Jazz: Jeff Hornacek - Sharpshooting guard who complemented Stockton and Malone Byron Russell - Defensive stopper on the wing New York Knicks: John Starks - Fiery competitor and three-point specialist Charles Oakley - Enforcer and rebounding machine Seattle SuperSonics: Detlef Schrempf - Versatile forward and former Sixth Man of the Year Sam Perkins - Stretch big man known as "Big Smooth" Phoenix Suns: Dan Majerle - "Thunder Dan" was a three-point marksman and solid defender Danny Ainge - Veteran guard who provided leadership and clutch shooting Portland Trail Blazers: Buck Williams - Rebounding specialist and defensive anchor Terry Porter - Steady point guard who could score and distribute

[@a-v-karin7617]

Let's bring back the hand check and then we will see who is really skilled.

[@reobae]

Kawhi is clamping everyone in the league if they bring back hand checking 😂😂😂

[@zakariahanaffi9641]

@@reobaealso start calling carry and travels

[@drewmeyer9679]

Larry played a game left handed that’s skill. Magic 6’8 pg with handle and vision, Hakeem skilled, Barkley skilled, Stockton skilled, etc.

[@Ma.JheaneJanineE.Labastida]

Maybe ant point is there are only few player in the old era have the skill only the star player of everyteam

[@Ma.JheaneJanineE.Labastida]

Im a lebron fan but to disrespect the OG is damn shit imagine those 80s player dont have elite trainer and equipment in there era but the way they play 🔥

[@troyjones5156]

Larry is left handed, only plays ball with his right hand. He uses his off hand for bball

[@renaldocrawford1767]

6'9

[@BlacknGoldnRed]

90s and early 2000 NBA was always fun to watch.

[@nbapbaupdate8338]

DeMar DeRozan Mid Range Assassin 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@superuser6699-l1o]

It's the same for everything. The humas before has lesser skills than today but it sure helped mold into whatever we have today. A car in 1950s is not as fast today but it helps to build a fast one today. This is not only happening in basketball. People think that whatever we have today just come out of nowhere, unfortunately it's a combination of a lot of things in the past.

[@Don_ZelleThaCreator]

Well wrote !

[@titolopes8679]

The human before has less skill than today?? are you sure? Go back to History and you will see what u saying is not true. Arts (Michael Angelo, Leonard da Vinci), Psicology (Jung, Freud), Politics (Lincoln, Alexander), the list can go beyond. Nothing is new, repetitions or copy is more like is happen today in many aspects of society. Perhaps the actual humans are less capable than our ancestry. Where are the great humans made in our timelife?? where are they?

[@superuser6699-l1o]

​@@titolopes8679 I will never take away the greatness of the people you mentioned. Those people are part of my point above, where I said they help shape the human race into what we are today. My point is that humans now have more access to information than ever before, making us more knowledgeable than previous generations. A large percentage of people today have access to education compared to those in the past. This is just my point; I did not say we have another Albert Einstein.

[@titolopes8679]

1950 car are stronger and durable, with beautiful design and personality.

[@superuser6699-l1o]

@@titolopes8679 Okay?

[@Gmaytorena]

DeMar gave his view, didn't disrespect Ant, accepted the posibility of a quote out of context. This is not a clip from a Basketball podcast, this is a masterclass on how to speak your mind with CLASS. S/O to Mr and Mrs DeRozan, they did a hell of a job!

[@markjosephprincipe3412]

Just watch Charles Barkley, if he's not skilled, I don't know who else is.

[@alllan07]

I think many younger generation don’t understand what skillful means. You can have one move but score bucket all the time that’s called skill. You can have all the moves, sidestep , step back , shammgod ..etc but still can’t get buckets. Yes, Ant might got more moves but not necessarily means more skillful

[@cjjacks33]

Great point. If it takes you 100 dribbles and moves to create a shot, that doesn’t make you more skilled than someone that can get their shot more efficiently. There’s so many players today that can’t even make a simple entry past because they’re not used to players playing in the post as much. It’s painful to watch

[@cristianlopez6069]

Old heads stay talking bad about the new players but when these new players return the same energy it’s suddenly a problem

[@Joepr3030]

Nah Young Ppl Start This Disrespectful THING!! Now It’s A War

[@viniciusfalcao_]

I agree that it's ridiculous when old guys talk shit about younger players... but it's even worse to hear new players saying shit about the old heads, especially when they haven't won anything in their careers (aka Ant)

[@kb4231]

It's dumb and wrong on both ends.

[@cristianlopez6069]

@@Joepr3030 every single year for the past 15 years the old heads say the new generation can’t hang in theirs, that they’re too soft. That’s literally disrespecting them to make themselves feel better. The 90s is such a “tough era” that these guys can’t play but a 5’3 muggsie bogues was able too 💀💀 make it make sense

[@cristianlopez6069]

@@viniciusfalcao_ winning is a team effort. Ant is 3x as skilled as anyone in the 90s, besides Jordan obviously, literally no one can touch any in terms of skills… you can drop ant in the 90s and 80s and he’d drop 40 a game on those dudes. They’d accuse him of witchcraft

[@TylerRoseTV]

I think the problem is people confused skill with athleticism and handle. If I can score with out dribbling the air out the ball and do this effectively in the mid post or low post. This is still considered skilled. I think because guys nowadays take sideways step back 3’s and handle the ball better that they’re more skilled. But the 3 time mvp Jokic is dominating the league with the same low post skill set that was used in the 90’s and 80’s only difference is he shoots the 3 ball.

[@williamgreen8625]

Facts! Why does nobody use the hardest shot to block, the sky hook shot ?!

[@ynk-ike]

It’s not an efficient shot. Same reason why 3pters were rare in earlier decades

[@collider12]

Yeah as nba/basketball fans who never would’ve made the league it’s weird to see new players who know nothing about the nba history. I get why they don’t gotta learn about it but don’t be ignorant

[@MindfulAttraction2.0]

Yeah, but every other sport. If you notice the athletes know their history. Look at the way. Mike, Tyson talks about boxing and guys like Joe Lewis and guys like from the twenties. Complete reverence. Today these NBA players and even fans just clown players of the '40s and '50s

[@theinktician]

most at least know the era they grew up watching or stories about the last generation. But Ant was a football guy. He said in the same interview he only watched KD growing up. Only OKC. Not every budding star is fan. Dennid Roman sure wasnt

[@SSJRome]

I feel like Anthony Edwards just mouthed off and wasn’t serious about what he was saying , but the bloodthirsty media and sensitive old heads thinks otherwise lol.

[@RT-qz5ci]

💯 he was talkin mess answering a question. I think he didn’t mean it the way it came off. Just immaturity, he will learn.

[@Saltycures]

You don't get to do that in his position without realizing there's gonna be repercussions. You want the status he wants, you gotta take everything that comes with it, including realizing how much weight your words are gonna carry and how much they'll be under a microscope

[@SSJRome]

@@Saltycures i just think it’s worth it to focus on the messenger more than the message in this case

[@tee_swag]

JUST SHOWS THE IQ OF BLACK COMMUNITY

[@Marmaladeinmycup]

Hey it’s offseason the media needs anything to make a big deal out of 😂

[@NC-Mama-Bear]

This was refreshingly good to hear. Respect.

[@rickeyjtv1802]

20 years from now they going to say our greats are trash lol how the younging disrespecting us they also going to get disrespected years from now lol thats why its no point to get triggered

[@mauricecolvard]

It is good to see players still respect the history of the game.

[@joncabotxox9389]

MJ is the only player Ant probably knows. He’s exactly how this generation is now. DISRESPECTFUL

[@Kobe8DaGreat24]

So

[@HowYouLikeDezNuts-um4gm]

IGNORANT

[@joncabotxox9389]

@@HowYouLikeDezNuts-um4gm Look at your name. That’s ignorant. My statement was FACT

[@bovedli]

I want an episode where you guys talk 8-9 minutes about Prize Picks and then 15 seconds about basketball! Make it happen! 🎉

[@VirgP24]

An Alex English Drop!!!...See that's why DBo is The Man...English scored 25,000 pts No Dunks No 3s and Shot 50%..Just Buckets and SKILL..They way he scored you can do that in any Era.

[@BlackwillStreet]

That part D Bo 💯💯

[@tjones8778]

One thing I love about Edward’s is he doesn’t care what anyone thinks even Magic😂😂

[@IshanaeS]

Sure doesn’t. Neither him nor anyone from his camp have said a word regarding this on social media. I would have thought that Magic response would have prompted someone from his camp to tweet something but nope. One band One sound 🤣👏🏾

[@renaldocrawford1767]

These youngsters 🙄

[@Tai-y1d]

NBA players now can't even do the skyhook with the 40 years of research and new tech, talking about no skill

[@alexescutia4805]

Named one skill….lemme guess what’s next defense when no one’s a threat from outside 😭

[@Kobe8DaGreat24]

Ok one move

[@southerncoastproductions7587]

@@alexescutia4805 ur slow, I can tell u don't know ball.

[@southerncoastproductions7587]

@@Kobe8DaGreat24 theres plenty more, Stop being ignorant.

[@alexescutia4805]

@@southerncoastproductions7587 yeah everyone who don’t agree with you is slow and ignorant. Literal definition of ignorance.

[@Los334_]

Ant was a football player turnt basketball player that’s why he said what he said . He might know more football players then basketball

[@patrickcasella]

Definitely don't think the old generation are scrubs by any means. But let's look at things objectively. In today's era, you have kids coming up with a literal road map of what drills to do, how to train their vert and body effectively, and a plethora of online skills resources. There's a ton of free game that just wasn't available back in the day. You have legitimate NBA trainers making videos about how to get better. Before, all you could do was re watch NBA games and copy those moves in your backyard. If you were lucky enough to have a good coach or people around you that played professionally, you had a massive leg up. This new generation is just armed with a much better skillset at a younger age. 3rd graders can dribble with both hands! Decades ago, having a good 3 point shot was a compliment to your game. In today's NBA, you ain't getting playing time if you can't shoot 3s and that's big men included! Both the skill floor and skill ceiling of the average NBA prospect is just so much higher than it was. You can get into rule changes or physicality arguments all day, but the fact is that you got more young hoopers breaking ankles and draining half court shots in elementary school than there ever was just 20 years ago.

[@azwanazmi1484]

So who is the new Michael Jordan? Did Duncan win a championship in 3 different decades against more athletic people who had access to more advanced drills and coaching? 5 total championships with no skills and a 2-1 finals record against what these young people consider their Goat with Duncan’s best teammates coming from other countries and picked at 28 and 57 in their drafts. Now onto athletics, why has no one with access to this advanced sports science, nutrition, training and equipment recently beaten world records in High jump (1993) , Long Jump (1991), Triple Jump (1995) and 100m (2009) ? Now people have this idea that todays players are way better shooters, why is there only a little difference in decade league average % in free throws 1990’s 74.6 vs 77.8 2020’s and field goals 1990’s 46.4 vs 46.8 2020’s despite their being limited defense and physicality?

[@daowonimdee]

You modern kids can do all the drills you want. You still aren't more talented than kids who grew up in the 80s and 90s playing against skilled grown men on streetball legend playgrounds at 11 years old, sharpening their basketball talent with experience, and preparing them for the physicality of 90s NBA. This is why they were able to score 25ppg with VERY PHYSICAL DEFENDERS covering them. Compare that to kids today who grew up on "drills" and "training" where no one is touching you as you shoot the ball from 30 ft, then you go to a professional league where no one can be physical and teams are scoring 140 every game, with average skilled dudes averaging 20ppg because PHYSICAL DEFENSE IS NON-EXISTENT. You call THAT more skilled? No. That's not more skilled. That's being CODDLED to go to a league to be even more CODDLED while getting paid 30 mill to be CODDLED. They're so soft that they can't even play a full 82-game season without LOAD-MANAGING at least 10-20 games out of it. That's what happens when your bones are so brittle because you've never had to work for your shot in your life due to "drills" and "training". Cut the nonsense.

[@kyedouglas482]

@@daowonimdeedefinition of an old head

[@daowonimdee]

@@kyedouglas482 Definition of I-can-pull-up-from-half-court-so-i'm-more-skilled. 🤚🏿🤦🏿‍♂️

[@patrickcasella]

@@azwanazmi1484 Michael Jordan was an anomaly. There are anomaly’s in every era, but there still hasn’t been a player like MJ in the current NBA. He was also so much better than anyone else in the league at the time that he stood out as the clear best player. That’s kind of the point of the argument. The average NBA player is so much more skilled that the parity there isn’t as apparent as it was when Jordan was playing. And that’s not to say there weren’t good players in the league in the 90s because there absolutely was. But two 3 peats back to back is crazy work and speaks to just how much of an anomaly he was and is. Also, Timmy won his last championship in 2014… that was almost a decade ago. The conversation isn’t even the same anymore. I consider Tim a top 10 player of all time - you obviously need skill to be on the top 10. There will always be outliers in every generation. For context, also in my top 10 are Kobe and Hakeem. Both anomalies from their respective eras. The argument is not that there were no good players in the past. The argument is that the average skill level of the NBA has increased over time.

[@ethane2753]

Ant is a goof

[@KClouisville]

Love the host guy here simping for him as well: "He doesn't have a bad bone in his body"....dude, he's said some dumb ass shit...and this isn't the first time. Quit glazing the guy.

[@Danny-hj2qg]

All Time Top 5 Centers: 1. Kareem Abdul Jabbar 2. Hakeem Olajuwon 3. Shaquille O'Neal 4. Wilt Chamberlain 5. Patrick Ewing Honorable Mentions: David Robinson, Bill Russell, Alonzo Mourning, Dikembe Mutombo, Moses Malone, Dwight Howard, Arvydas Sabonis, Vlade Divac, George Mikan, Bill Walton.

[@jahimuddin2306]

David Robinson was definitely better than Patrick Ewing.

[@Danny-hj2qg]

@@jahimuddin2306 Honorable Mentions: David Robinson, Bill Russell, Alonzo Mourning, Dikembe Mutombo, Moses Malone, Dwight Howard, Arvydas Sabonis, Vlade Divac, George Mikan, Bill Walton.

[@eghoseisiramen1892]

2:26 except the older generation themselves did it bruh. They act like no one else was there when Mike was

[@adgee5401]

That’s what you choose to focus on big time.

[@arianluna4548]

Absolutely right ! respect players from any era. The young players need to learn how to use the microphone the right way.

[@devingu5554]

but Ant himself is not more skilled than many players in 90s'... for example Kobe... this is ironic

[@kanorskygaming1879]

Kobe doesn't have the handles of Edwards, Kobe can't shoot 3's like edwards

[@devingu5554]

@@kanorskygaming1879 seriously?

[@MathewDavis-c5q]

@@kanorskygaming1879Bruh, you’re trolling, right? That’s an absolutely insane take

[@trips963]

Anthony edwards is more skilled than everyone in the 90s except mj kobe a.i n hakeem

[@shadowsoul1695]

@@trips963 So David Robinson, Clyde Drexler, Dominique Wilkins, John Stockton, Chris Webber, Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, Charles Barkley, Gary Payton, Dennis Rodman, Shaq, Scottie Pippen, Toni Kukoc, Shawn Kemp, Isaiah Thomas, Paul Pierce, Jason Kidd, Chris Mullin, Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone, Joe Dumars, Magic in the early 90’s, Penny Hardaway, Abdul-Rauf, Tim Hardaway, Tim Duncan, Grant Hill, Reggie Miller and many others didn't have skill or multiple skills that Anthony Edwards has right now? Guys that were super athletic that could score, defend, handle the ball, pass, do post-moves, hit jump shots and run great plays? Absolute braindead take.

[@queyoung6597]

Lets clarify this. I don't think Ant's comment was meant to be taken literally. I think there was a bigger message he was trying to convey, it just didn't come out right. MJ was considered an anomaly in his era. Even though there were clearly other players with skill, MJ stood out amongst the rest. I think Ant's comment was meant to highlight the evolution of todays game compared to MJ's era. On a side note I think it's hilarious that past players are agitated by this comment, because they constantly call this era soft. I think it's an even trade-off. This era is more skilled but less physical, and the past era was more physical but less skilled.

[@lylaeloise3948]

This.

[@darioja2469]

90’s were not less skilled, they were just not allowed to carry the ball and travel. Rod strickladnd, van exel, j kidd, penny, tim hardaway, grant hill to name a few. Only “thing” that is more skillsd today are big men who can dribble and shoot better, yet they lack fundamentals of a true big men. People need to stop with this “more skill today” bs. Playing iso, just shooting threes, carrying a ball whilst travel is not a skill.

[@queyoung6597]

@@darioja2469 And older players need to stop with the "this generation is soft" bs. You can't have it both ways. If you're going to acknowledge that rules back then forced a different brand of basketball, then all this BS needs to stop about players today wouldn't be able to play in the past eras. The old heads have been able to make comments for years, and because they have gray hair their comments are viewed as wise. But the second a young relevant player makes a comment everybody gets uptight.

[@darioja2469]

@@queyoung6597 but they are 100% right. They soft as they can be. Crying like little girls, back then it was a man’s game. No respect to older players as well, what do you expect? It’s a first thingn you should be teached at home- respect your elders! No one from 90’s was talking smack on West, Big O or Russel. Not a single old head said anything about ant’s game, that kid aint soft and can hoop. But he don’t have right to say such stupid thing, just shows how “uneducated” he is. Boy dunked a few times and tripping he’s MJ

[@ITISKONY]

It's not his fault. Dude doesn't know the definition of skill. He thought doing cross over is what is called skill.

[@Thesteve1137]

U neva watched ant edwards then 😂

[@KristianDowling]

Demar knows his stuff!

[@garysalazar5279]

DeRozan talking like he knows players from the 70s. Does he know role players like Dave Twardzik in the 70s?

[@scottstheemcee]

It's a great take from the boys. I'm 40 so I love those 90s dudes. But I also truly appreciate the evolution of athleticism and skill sets in pro sport generally, leading to what we see on the court or the field today. I think the argument works in reverse too, like to any my age and older, don't just sh*t on these new dudes because they didn't play in the 90s, you know? Love the pod P 🙌

[@brandonmaxile7866]

Bad take by Ant, but it doesn’t make it not true. I think he is referring to the overall athleticism in the NBA compared to back then. Sure you can cherry pick a handful of athletes who could play in todays game but you are talking about all time greats, overall on average most players can pass dribble and shoot now. We Still should respect the OGs but we have to judge them in a vacuum in order to appreciate them.

[@Emefak]

So, if the average player is more athletic now, it just means and proves that it's equally difficult to succeed as an NBA player. The training conditions, the facilities, the knowledge about nutrition or health, the usage of stats were very different back then, but they were the same for everyone. So pushing through all of that and becoming a star such as MJ, Malone, Scottie, Stockton, Reggie... is the same as becoming Edwards, Morant, Tatum or Luka today.

[@DeshTheDirector]

Nah bro he said “SKILL” not athleticism. I get what you’re saying for sure, but that’s very different from what came out of his mouth

[@Emefak]

@@DeshTheDirector It's the same thing. "Skill" is not a magical thing, is a consequence of training. And training has evolved to have players with better technique.

[@DeshTheDirector]

@@Emefak i don’t disagree with you in the point that training has evolved so players are more skilled today, sure I feel you. But training existed back then as well, even if it wasn’t as intricate. He could’ve said that there are more skilled players today instead of saying that there was only one back then. My point is more so fixed on holding him accountable for exactly what he said.

[@Emefak]

@@DeshTheDirector Oh, I agree on that. What Ant said is pure nonsense, but that's kind of his thing 😂 Love the guy, though.

[@moro8926]

A knowledgeable and respectful comment by a grown adult man sounds very different than one from an immature, naive and ignorant boy. Always been a fan of Demar on and off the court.

[@joncabotxox9389]

I hope Ant pays the price for his disrespect

[@reydemonkeysyt6665]

He said he never grew up on watch those other players play but Mike and when watching Mike at such a young age his mind is telling him that Mike is the most talented and that why we have vets like these guys who don’t shame him but hold him accountable ant ain’t gotta pay or apologize for what he said it’s just his opinion and his statement just like how everyone eles has one

[@joncabotxox9389]

@@reydemonkeysyt6665ok

[@macg9315]

U already paying the price being a bum in real life stfu

[@ferdinandagustin4089]

ANT opens his mouth without thinking every single time

[@yeayea4756]

To be fair, the reason the young players are like that because you also discredit them saying them they are soft and such. They were just saying things back in defense.

[@curryis828]

Hahahaha because they're all fucking soft 😂

[@dichotomousfilms]

The rivalry between Magic and Bird didn’t just light up the court-it blew the ratings through the roof and set the stage for unforgettable matchups like the Knicks vs. Lakers, Celtics, and Bulls vs. Knicks. That intensity, that competition, is what made the NBA must-watch TV. Fast forward to today, and the league is missing that kind of rivalry. Teams and players are too friendly with each other, and it's making the game feel boring. The drama is gone. Look at what saved the WNBA-Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese’s rivalry. That’s what created buzz and excitement. It was raw, it was real, and it made people tune in. But in the NBA, there’s nothing like that. Everyone’s just buddies now. There’s no animosity, no bad blood, no heated matchups that fans can sink their teeth into. That’s why the WNBA and even college basketball have a more competitive feel-because players and teams actually have something to prove, and they’re not afraid to go head-to-head. Until the NBA finds that same fire, it’s just going to be a watered-down version of what it used to be.

[@collinsodhiambo3116]

That man is just a big mouthed youngin But if you think about it I think he has a point Like back then it was all about physicality thats why you hear Shaq and Chuck always talk about if you are a big man you should camp base at the post and punish them people and not to stay beyond the 3 pt line basically I mean nowadays players have a lot to offer than back then basically!!!!

[@FalconStrikeGames]

Players back then couldn't do more because there were actual positions not this position less garbage that's on TV today

[@girldad100]

Athletic and skilled are two different things.

[@CamF-_-]

I think what he was trying to say is the average player now is way better than the average player back then. And I agree with that

[@nanaapple8100]

that's just stating the obvious. that will almost always be true in any sport. it doesn't really matter what he was trying to say, it wasn't anything good because he neither elaborated or gave it a foundation to stand on. instead what he really said is that he thinks everyone was a jobber minus jordan.

[@ajyearby2425]

You don’t play

[@CamF-_-]

@@ajyearby2425 you are not allowed to have an opinion if a woman looks good out not. You are not a woman

[@ajyearby2425]

@@CamF-_- whether she looks good to ME, yes I do. I also play ball, so I can and will comment on any relevant topics regarding such.

[@minone]

He literally said what he was “trying” to say and fools like you are trying to do damage control with “oh no he meant to say this” lol

[@nbapbaupdate8338]

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[@Master-Wanderer]

If you make it to the NBA youre skilled....

[@Master-Wanderer]

Or if youre lucky and your Dad is LeBron James

[@KeithCloss33]

Well said, lil bro. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@TimWong49152]

The truth is there was always talent in the 80’s and 90’s. The difference is there’s a lot more talent today simply because the player pool is far deeper.

[@giombi15]

Not really. The talent is different. There’s less ppl being able to post up , shoot mid range shots for example. But they can shoot 3s better. They are also alllowed to double dribble and trave… I mean “gather step”. You can’t play strong defence either , so you incentivize different attributes and different type of players become stars. There’s a strong possibility a Steph Curry would have been injured and out of the league before he fully realized his potential in the 80s. It’s just a completely different game now

[@thediseaseisthecure]

In the 80s and 90s, these guys would be called ‘chuckers’

[@ferrellslim]

The thing is nowadays there is a hyper demand on what you want to watch. In the early 2000s ESPN classic was a television program that shown every athlete that was watched the years before so you will see Muhammad Ali Ronnie Lott, Lou al Sindor, John Havlicek stole the ball, Pete Maravich, Bill Russell Rudy Tom Janovich, George Gervin, Terry Bradshaw, Gail Sears, Johnny United Jordan when he played for the Tar Heels, Babe Ruth, Jackie Robinson, satchel page.

[@silkyutters3137]

So now disrespecting another era is a problem

[@OldSchoolBaller]

Thing about words, you gotta choose them carefully. You can never take back what you say. Remember that...

[@alec187]

The problem is Old heads expect respect from the young players but at the same time discredit the modern game. It’s not the young players that are always so eager to claim being better. It’s them old players always saying the game ain’t the same, that none of these new players could’ve played in the older eras. At this point, why should young players pay their respect when they are already disregarded on sight.

[@RealAaron317]

Always respect those who came before you

[@kjjr3270]

Old heads like Shaq for example do nothing besides hating on the current gen. Shouldn't be the ones crying when NBA players come with the same energy.

[@ant4613]

Except Shaq doesn't hate on the new gen, he's just like you and most fans. People calling Shaq a hater probably have Twitter accounts with SGA avis who constantly hate on Luka (just an example), or Embiid fans who hate on Jokic, etc. ... He has specific players that he picks on, no doubt. But what about all the glowing things he's said about Giannis over the years? You can look at a compilation. What about when he said Steph should be considered for the GOAT convo and better than him all time? Some people think he's being humble but he still said it and has praised Steph many times. And there are plenty of more examples. So what you're saying is simply not true.

[@kyedouglas482]

Spot on

[@TheMonjok24]

Shaq has g14 classification.

[@kjjr3270]

@@TheMonjok24 definitely not if he says stuff like that. It doesnt work like that

[@jimfalco8302]

Demar is a class act and a very good player, too bad it couldn’t work in Chicago.

[@gratestever6409]

Bro ants right.. just cuz u can name 5 skilled players in that time don’t mean the whole league was skilled it’s 400 people in the league back then but can only name 5 skilled players so in part ant is right and I’m pretty sure ants talkin bout the 80s when mj first got into the league not the 90s… so in the 80s there was not more than 5 skilled players idk wat no one say 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@brendanbloom3366]

Stop talking out your ass. Magic MJ bird Dr J Dominique worthy Hakeem Kareem Stockton Moses Karl Barkley IT montcrief king English Mchale Drexler auiguire Sampson Gilmore marquese Gervin Dumars Ellis and so on all played in the 80s. The 80s was littered with ridiculously skilled players.

[@astogameplay]

@@brendanbloom3366yea they was dribbling down the court with one hand

[@gratestever6409]

@@brendanbloom3366 STOP the three point line was closer fact number 1. And all the players you named…more skilled than who 😂😂😂 I can literally like right now show u 13 year olds more skilled than damn near everyone you named🤷🏽‍♂️ shooting from half consistently and doing 360 windmills with a crazy handle😂 so stop them players in the 80s couldn’t even do a left to right crossover and u talkin bout they skilled 😂

[@tee_swag]

IMAGINE IDOLIZING LIL BRON WHO HAS NO SKILLS AT ALL BUT WILL DISAGREE ABOUT AND THEN AGREES THAT ANT SPEAKS THE TRUTH

[@brendanbloom3366]

@@astogameplay no they weren’t. They actually knew how to dribble not just carry the ball.

[@Realest1ne]

I love the fact that we got current star players saying this

[@micahjohnson138]

Ant is ovverated wemby better he would never hate on the old head 😂

[@Mandozen]

Using Wemby as bait

[@LordBranniganThe]

@@micahjohnson138 so go kiss Wemby

[@Jgarthebeast]

What these guys fail to realize is that you can name every team that won a championship in the 80's/90's because you GREW UP around that time. I bet you Ant can name every team that won a chip from the 90's/00's. So its the same timeframe as you, he was just born later.

[@jeffforty5663]

The problem is that it’s hard as fuck to watch old nba games and highlights. The NBA does a terrible job of showing its old players who were amazing and just as talented if not more!

[@EstebanDVO]

You have the internet. If kids in the 90's could watch old NBA games, you sure as hell can do more nowadays.

[@ant4613]

It's hard, but not that hard... like the guy above me said, the Internet exists. There use to be channels on KZbin that would upload FULL 80s games, 80s playoff series, 90s games, etc. ... I feel like KZbin/copyright has taken a lot of them down but there are definitely ways to still find a lot of this stuff, if you're truly dedicated to watching old basketball.

[@christopherconcept926]

Just think about this, the evolution and technology that goes into basketball sneakers today versus wearing chucks and playing full minutes night in and night out. That should tell you all you need to know when trying to compare eras. Respect those that paved the way.

[@tlxxlt4745]

Old players talk bad about the new players, but when the new players talk bad about them it’s weird now? 😂 nah bro

[@Gboi8]

You're supposed to respect your elders, is this something you were never taught? Current players are standing on the shoulder of giants. The ones that came before them are the reason they get paid these oversized contracts that most of them don't even deserve. That alone is enough of a reason for them to show some respect and be grateful.

[@LordBranniganThe]

@@Gboi8 you respect someone unless you’re disrespected

[@EbonysUnderAttack]

​@Gboi8 I believe respect should go both ways. Age should have nothing to do with it

[@daustin1213]

Older people have always talked about younger people. In basketball, in life. This is NOTHING new. Guys in the 90s had guys from the 70s talking bad about them. But they knew not to disrespect their OGs.

[@harlan5339]

@@daustin1213God bless, the OG need to not disrespect young heads too its both ways. You have to coexist instead of knocking each other

[@ExtremeDailyDrivers]

What these guys don't understand is by ignoring the greatness of the past, they are creating a future of players will ignore their greatness. In 20 years, some NBA player is going to be taking smack about Ant Man and everyone of his era.

[@jkassh9743]

Ant is bussing Magic ass stop the 🧢. They can talk then Ant should be able to talk too.

[@brendanbloom3366]

Magic would destroy him.

[@jeju6892]

How may rings he got?? He aint talkin no shit. Ant would try for the rest of his life, but he will never be a top 10 player of all time. I swear yall kids are stupid lmaoo

[@jkassh9743]

@@brendanbloom3366 delusional.

[@brendanbloom3366]

@@jkassh9743 yeah you are. Magic would post him up and score every single time.

[@jkassh9743]

@@brendanbloom3366 in what world? He can’t guard Ant.

[@princellasmith7562]

Jordan is the blueprint. He’s the reason the game became high flying. I am sick of the disrespect of some of these younger players. You never heard the 90s era putting down the previous eras.

[@chase5400]

Old heads at it again 😂

[@jeju6892]

So? They are speaking facts. Anthony Edwards’ basketball ass wouldn’t exist without dem old heads.

[@kjjr3270]

​@@jeju6892 and yo ass wouldn't exist without yo parents, tf does that have to do with anything?

[@SnkrsandCards]

Also 80's and 90's basketball they didn't call no touch fouls.

[@gravedigger6661]

Why they hating on Edward’s lol

[@AustinLoveArc]

Because he didn’t watch that era (I didn’t either because I wasn’t alive), but why does he comment on it when he didn’t even watch that era?

[@Bearedd]

Why is Edward’s hating on the 90s?

[@datguypanda]

They’re not hating on Ant its just he’s part of the era that doesn’t look at their past eras and see them as competitors that had no skill but when in reality there were players in that era that had skill

[@Yute01]

​@AustinLoveArc Ima keep it a buck, I watched live playoff games here on yt between the Bulls and Pistons, and the players were a whole lot less skilled from an objective standpoint. They looked uncomfortable dribbling the ball and pretty much no one could pull up or do anything remotely advanced. Obviously there were guys like MJ, Zeke, Clyde...etc, but generally players were so much worse.

[@Raxztherat]

I don't think they are at all there's a difference in hate and being delusional

[@garymitchell9319]

Some of these guys don't read about former players. They don't know the history of the game.

[@iamyouyouareme9905]

Everyone from MJ's era knows the NBA told the refs to leave MJ alone and change the game for MJ because he was good for business.

[@Yute01]

Source?

[@LordBranniganThe]

@@Yute01 the game has been corrupt since Stern started to market players and not teams

[@Yute01]

@LordBranniganThe Elaborate. I'm always hearing this type of stuff but people don't put down sources.

[@LordBranniganThe]

@@Yute01 Tim Donaghy, Rasheed Wallace, Mark Cuban just to name a few.

[@daustin1213]

Yeah he was so favored that he went 3rd in the draft...after Sam Bowie. The NBA changed the game so much for him that he averaged 28 ppg 6 rpg 6 apg and was 2nd team All-NBA as a rookie. C'mon man. Y'all gotta cool out with the ridiculous talking points trying to downplay this man's greatness. Regardless how you feel about him, MJ was ice cold and one helluva basketball player and y'all just gotta live with it.

[@nerdripper]

My personal take is that the younger guys don’t realize how much of their own game was molded by the newer league and it’s a direct reason why they have the skill they have. So to know that the founding fathers of the league didn’t have much of the game to immolate makes them more superior for the accolades they were able to achieve. Like of course you think step back 3s are a higher skill set when literally these young guys’ whole childhood and adolescence was spent watching great shot creators because by then it was already an art

[@johnwinstonmata]

Fame went into Ant's head.

[@polerrodriguez8658]

Social media took out the need to be a student of the game not just in basketball either most things in life

[@mr.worldfree3333]

These new guys get a big check and some instagram booty and they think they good after that.

[@joel_13_]

I think the fundamentals were so much more superior than today. Everyone just jacks up threes and doesnt play defense now. Basketball was played the right way back then

[@nbatalkz6635]

Crazy pg an og getting a max contract

[@securethebag1613]

01:25 that's the whole point. Of course we're all thinkin somethin similar but we wouldnt say the shit. They have no home training.

[@Steven_speaks]

Well said by Demar..

[@LastLetterisZed702]

I think that if you view Chicago Bulls Highlights from the 1980's & 1990's, it's easy to pick out MJ as the most athletic, acrobatic who will always be the most naturally gifted player - Michael Jordan. Now, 30-40 years later when you watch those old games, it doesn't look like the other players on the court are even trying. But they are. They're trying as best as they can, it's just MJ stands out so much because he's the GOAT.

[@joec.5009]

Basketball is indeed a simple game at its core, and sometimes that simplicity is lost on players who prioritize flash over fundamentals. When Ant disrespects the OGs, it's clear he's missing a key lesson in the essence of the game. Skill and flair are nice, but they’re the icing on the cake, not the foundation. You don’t need 10 different crossovers or ankle-breaking moves to get separation or create plays. Look at John Stockton-one of the greatest point guards of all time. He didn’t rely on flashy dribble moves or isolations. His mastery came from a deep understanding of the game, knowing where his teammates were, and making the right decisions at the right time. Stockton was the king of efficiency. His game was based on high-IQ playmaking, precision passing, positioning, and timing-elements that are often more valuable than fancy dribble packages. His career as the NBA’s all-time assist leader isn’t built on highlight-reel crossovers; it’s built on understanding the geometry of the court, being fundamentally sound, and reading the defense like a chess master. That’s why the OGs deserve respect. They played with a focus on teamwork, ball movement, and getting the job done without needing to go viral for a highlight play. The game's fundamentals-like setting screens, making smart passes, understanding spacing, and trusting your teammates-are what lead to championships, not just individual skill showcases. Basketball is a team sport, and no amount of fancy handles will replace the value of playing for the collective, rather than personal glory. Ant may have the skill, but it's the wisdom and experience of the OGs like Stockton, Magic, and others who understood that real greatness lies in the ability to elevate your team, not just yourself. They remind us that basketball, at its purest, is about making everyone around you better-not just showing off.

[@HisUncle]

It’s not the superstars in 80s and 90s don’t have skills. It the normal guys, the 80% even 90% of players HAVE NO SKILLS, and it’s the God honest truth.

[@jahimuddin2306]

Roleplayers now get payed a lot more so they can focus on their game year-round. Role-players back then sometimes had to work a second job to sustain themselves so they could not dedicate the same effort to the game. The top guys are applicable in any era. Larry Bird would succeed today the same way LeBron would succeed back then.

[@HisUncle]

@@jahimuddin2306 Why they were not skilled is not the topic here, and you’re absolutely right, they didn’t have the “luxury” to train full time. The fact remains, most of the players in 90s and 80s were NOT SKILLED. most of the time they were high AF during the games.

[@christopherzaf5768]

And don't forget Rules and Officiating. Dribbling: it's not like they weren't skilled, but any fancy crossover would have been called for carry Travel: most of Lebron's dunk would be called for travel. It's so much more difficult to jump high at full speed with only 2 steps, rather than 3 or 4 Fouls

[@Bnoise22]

The OGs been takin shots for years. Its crazy they're not taking the bulk of the blame