Demo Day At Rose - Warpig, Skunk Ape, & Orca!

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It was demo day at Mt. Rose. In years past it's been just our local shop with what they still had in the shop - mostly just skis. So I went up for the day not thinking there would be much for me to ride. To my surprise the crew at Ride and Lib Tech had a couple larger boards that I could hop on.
Speed Runs 00:03
Ride Warpig 1:06
Lib Tech Skunk Ape 4:53
Lib Tech Orca 8:01
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@JeffsJunction 2 ай бұрын

These are the video reviews i want to see. Thanks 🤙🏻

@WilAlexander 2 ай бұрын

I appreciate it.

@JeffsJunction 2 ай бұрын

@WilAlexander I'm looking to buy a used skunk ape from a guy locally, tomorrow. It's one thing watching a guy in a shop talk about it. It's another thing watching a guy record himself shredding!

@WilAlexander 2 ай бұрын

@@JeffsJunction Very true, especially if you're a bigger rider. Average height shop employees are just repeating what reps tell them about wide boards - and it's 75% wrong.

@JeffsJunction 2 ай бұрын

@WilAlexander i think I'm on the cusp. 6'3" 230lbs size 11.5 boot. 😬

@mikeyp3694 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I own a Warpig, Superpig and an Orca....I'm 5'7" with big size 10 feet for a short guy. The Superpig probably rides a lot like the Skunk Ape.....really fun at high speeds....big open carving monster. Agreed....the Orca isn't for everyone. It took me a full day of 20+ runs to start to appreciate it's characteristics and I ended up buying one. It is great in powder and can be very turny with the rocker between the feet in a fun way. Agreed Magne Traction can grab in soft snow sometimes.

@WilAlexander 2 жыл бұрын

Demo days are cool, but yeah, more time on the Orca and I probably would have figured out where and how to ride it. I felt like the Warpig was a bit more playful than the Skunk Ape. Maybe it's because it takes me a while to get used to boards that actually fit me, but it felt like the Skunk Ape wanted to rail carves where the Warpig was more freestyle in a pow appearance.

@GuglielmoMannaia 4 ай бұрын

Would be interesting to hear your opinion of the Skunk Ape Camber. Also the Apes Camber and C2 in pow 👍

@WilAlexander 4 ай бұрын

@@GuglielmoMannaia I really want to get on one of those. I had given up hope on Lib making camber and just relegated them in my mind to only rocker boards

@camerongrayson7868 2 жыл бұрын

super underrated video should have more views man, exactly the video I was looking for.

@WilAlexander 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@lizardspiral 11 ай бұрын

Include all the edge catches broo.. that's what im here for😂

@WilAlexander 9 ай бұрын

Got one coming that has a few

@adamlowe8677 2 жыл бұрын

Bought a 173uw skape ape as a first board lol. I'm 6'5, but still, you have to ride the skunk ape hard to appreciate it

@WilAlexander 2 жыл бұрын

Found that really true

@Howardtrn 2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you like the war pig it is super stable because it is so wide and flat. a great board definitely a quiver killer but feels like I'm steering a tug boat sometimes. I always run into trouble riding the orca doesn't really shine on the groomers, I would like to try riding it through trees on a pow day. I'm loving the super doa it super damp at high speeds I was impressed the first time I tried it out. I been trying learn more buttering tricks the battalion evil twin makes it's easy to get into a press

@WilAlexander 2 жыл бұрын

All your assessments seem to be right along with what I felt except for the tugboating on the War Pig. I'm tall and have huge feet so I rarely get that feeling and when I do it just takes time for me to ride a board that's actually wide enough for me to use properly.

@PeterBelling-q1w Жыл бұрын

Many thanks for the review. 💪 Would it be fair to compare the Orca to the Burton Fish for (deep) pow & soft snow? How would it compare if yes?

@MarkoLerota Жыл бұрын

He took 156 Orca in this video which is too small for him. He should be on 162. No wonder he didn't like it. He tested skunk ape which is 170 and it was good.

@WilAlexander Жыл бұрын

I've never seen the Burton Fish, but looking at the details on both - I see the Fish as a Steep and Deep only board. The taper is way gnarlier than the Orca which will give you a ton of nose float. That nose float is great if it's steam, tends to slow you down, which on mellow terrain can be an issue with speed. I think the Orca is more of an All-mountain board that leans towards pow.

@WilAlexander Жыл бұрын

lol, Nice try, but no. The 156 is as big as most companies "wide" boards. The 156 orca is similar to a 172 Skunkape with the tail chopped (the 156 as a twin is 176cm). I've ridden small boards my whole life. What I didn't like about the Orca was the placement of the inserts in relation to the C2x rocker. The center rocker is too close to the front inserts, making the back end pivot out easier. That makes the front camber sit out in front of your foot instead of under it which makes the nose contact point grab early.

@MarkoLerota Жыл бұрын

Don't want to contradict you, but they recommend Orca to be ridden 3-6cm smaller than your regular board size. I'm 6'3, 13 size boot, and 162 should be my perfect size. That's the biggest Orca you can get. T. Rice drives 153/156. And I am much bigger than him. You even more :-). All I wanna say is when I jump on the smaller size board for my weight/height, I barely can drive it. Total lack of control. So I thought this happened to you as well. Never step on the Orca. But I will in a few weeks time. I own 165 skunk ape and I love it.. But I am eager to try the Orca :-)

@WilAlexander Жыл бұрын

I get that, but smaller boards are easier to ride being more skate-like. Charging and carving is out of the question, but maneuvering a small board is considerably easier than a larger board - You can stand on a 2x4 and get it to tip over, stand on a 2x10 it takes way more effort. The skunkape was sick, but a completely different ride than the orca.

@buuutzz 2 жыл бұрын

I ride this warpig in 151 with union contact pro bindings. They are maybe a bit too soft for higher speed carves, what do you guys think, should i get a different pair of bindings?

@WilAlexander 2 жыл бұрын

I was always a big fan of the Union Force bindings for their flex.

@seanborisy8777 Жыл бұрын

I’m 6 foot, 220, size 13 foot. What would you recommend for board and bindings. Really love to carve, go fast, and do tree runs. Also live in the Midwest so I get out on a lot of groomed man made snow, unless I can make out the UP in Michigan at Mount Bohemia.

@WilAlexander Жыл бұрын

The problem is, generally, fast and trees are opposites. The Skunk Ape is a really fast with long arcs, where something like the Spring Break Pow Twin is great for tight carves. The Warpig might be right in the middle there, since it's kind of like if you chopped off the tail of a much longer board. Only issue is the tail bein narrower, could give you some boot out if you carve deep.

@roottv8417 2 жыл бұрын

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@WilAlexander 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude!

@gerardwatts6809 Жыл бұрын

What size boots do you wear? I’m 6 2” 235 with a size 15 boot, I’ve been considering getting a wider board because I’ve been riding a Burton custom 162 wide. To be honest using the burton photon boots I don’t really have much of a problem with heal or toe drag, but I know I’m like right on the edge of towing or healing out when I start carving hard. I just feel like I may be a little more comfortable on a wider board so I was just trying to get a riders opinion with a size 15 boot because I’ve been considering getting the Lib tech Ultra Wide, or the 158 war pig.

@WilAlexander Жыл бұрын

Damn, With 15's I'd definitely suggest boards with over 320mm nose AND tail. The Skunkape is probably your best bet. The Warpig tapers a bit in the back, but it's still wider than your Custom. Between the two, I'd go with the Skunkape if you like to go fast with LONG carves and the Warpig if you want something a bit more playful. I'm currently waiting for the snowpack to get a bit better to get on a handmade UK board that could actually be perfect for you (I haven't had enough time on it to fully endorse it)

@knevil753 Жыл бұрын

does the warpig have some speed to it? i have the orca and awaiting a warpig in the mail. i want a smaller board in hopes i can maneuver in the trees easier. i still want to keep up with my pals though. this board was significantly cheaper and a worried i will be dissapointed

@WilAlexander Жыл бұрын

With the few runs I took it did seem to go pretty fast. The taper from the nose to tail will allow you to stay on edge with a straightish carve. And the stiffness in the tail allows you to sit back on the faster part of that radius.

@erickgonzalez2099 11 ай бұрын

I had the chance to buy both a orca and super pig brand new. I feel like there’s overlap between the two. Which would you recommend keeping? Looking to ride mainly trees, powder, and groomers.

@WilAlexander 11 ай бұрын

It really comes down to how you like your turns on groomers. Personally I'm not a fan of the rocker in most lib/gnu or neversummer's. It makes low speed swivels and some edge to edge easier, but you tend to have less control and the edge control you do have is focused on certain areas. I'm a bit skeptical on the Slimwalls on the new Rides - There's a reason the ski and snowboard industry all but abandoned cap construction years ago. K2 seems like they're trying to save money by calling it a new tech and charging you the same (if not more)

@erickgonzalez2099 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. I am used to the magnatraction since my current board is a T rice pro. Do you think the superpig and the orca have a similar ride feel? Maybe I should keep both lol I got them brand new for a great deal.

@WilAlexander 3 ай бұрын

The ride is completely different between the Orca and SuperPig. The difference between the Lib rocker and Ride Camber deliver way different turning, pop and landing experiences.

@toddgreenlee9406 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video. Being a larger rider myself it’s rare to get a review of larger boards being ridden by large riders. Being 6’3” 275 most boards are not stiff enough.

@WilAlexander 2 жыл бұрын

You should check out Capita's boards, across the board I feel like their stiffness is higher than listed - The Spring Break Powder Twin is listed as a 5 but is probably more like a 6 or 7. Warpig is pretty stiff if you like that shape. Superpig should be stiffer.

@MrNiggo94 Жыл бұрын

Sick video! Would love to attend a Demo Day like that myself at some point. I managed to score a Skunk Ape 173UW for myself but I still have issues finding the right size bindings. I'm 6'4 and got a 48EU boot size, I think that's around size 14 US and struggle to center my boot on the board, even when maxing the setback on the disc and heel cup. There's always too much toe overhang compared to heels. I don't even bother trying L bindings anymore but most XL are still too small. I just ordered a set of Ride Capo XL...maybe they will do the trick. Do you have some other binding recommendations for big dudes?

@WilAlexander Жыл бұрын

I haven't had too much of an issue with bindings. I've rocked Rome Vice, Nitro Team, and Bataleon Halldor's and haven't and never had an issue with centering. One thing you can do is turn the mounting disc 90 degrees so the channels are perpendicular to the length of the board. This will let you slide the binding back a bit to get your boot more centered. The other thing when looking for bindings is to look at bindings that have a bit of a toe kick. Some models will be pretty flat which put your toe closer to the snow.

@tobyyy7246 Жыл бұрын

yo do you have instagram? Im a tall boarded with the same problem and would love to ask some questions

@aguynamedben Жыл бұрын

Union Force XL, size 16 Ride Insano boots good combo for me

@waspib7190 2 жыл бұрын

@will alexander friend and what is your thoughts about warpig. i planning buy it but i cant tested out before bought. :D great film

@WilAlexander 2 жыл бұрын

The Warpig was fun. The stiff tail and loose nose would take some time to used to in the park, but as a cruiser/pow board it would be fun. Also pretty easy to ride switch even with the taper.

@waspib7190 2 жыл бұрын

@@WilAlexander thank u for answer. Friend what size u took ?. im 210lbs boots 45 and height is 1,97cm. and official website reccomend for me xl but people say that i should pick L.

@colbert6122 2 жыл бұрын

@@waspib7190 hopefully you stuck with the L, 154 would ride similar to 161-164

@Bioticly Жыл бұрын

How do you feel about the skunk ape being a good 1st real board to buy? It's my 4th season and my beginner high flex fully rocker board broke. I am a big guy at 250lbs 6ft. Can I handle this board you think for just casual riding and ripping?

@WilAlexander Жыл бұрын

I'd go for a stiffer zero camber board if you can. The jump from a rocker to a really long camber will be rough. The Skunk Ape locks into it's edge and its tougher to do initiate turns like a rocker would.

@JeffsJunction 2 ай бұрын

Subbed for more content

@WilAlexander Ай бұрын

Appreciate you

@jackpeiser7416 2 жыл бұрын

What size warping would you recommend for me? I am 155-160 lbs, 5’11” and size 11 foot

@WilAlexander 2 жыл бұрын

You'd probably be good on the Medium 151 or even the Small 148. Dont let the small sizes fool you, the 151 Warpig is a 161 with 10cm of the tail cut off.

@pegas2929 2 жыл бұрын

I ve got an orca. Thinking about selling it and getting a warpig?! Is it worth?

@WilAlexander 2 жыл бұрын

It depends on what you're looking for in a board. It sounds like you don't like riding the Orca now, but without the reasons why, I cant be much help.

@roottv8417 2 жыл бұрын

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@WilAlexander 2 жыл бұрын

Yew!!!

@peterfarris1550 8 ай бұрын

What size warpig were you riding here? Small?

@WilAlexander 8 ай бұрын

lol, no. I'm just huge. If I remember correctly is was a Large.

@jshdbbdhdbdbndn2361 2 жыл бұрын

for the Warpig is the 151 good for me? i’m 125 size 9 shoes and 5,10

@WilAlexander 2 жыл бұрын

The Warpig is interesting for sizing. My rule of thumb on twins is to measure your boot from heel to toe - then try to find a tip tail width that matches. I think the word from Ride is to size down like 5-10cm from what you ride now - This being from it's cut tail, a 151 would be more like a 161 if it had a symmetrical tail.