Democrats Bungled The 2024 Election WAY Worse Than We Thought

[@Arandomnovember]

The data was clear from the total vote. It was the campaign pivoting to the moderate Republicans that depressed excitement.. She needed to show how she would change things. The democrats failed to capture the gettable next generation and the people looking for support on real life issues.

[@Houtont]

Making Walz reign in his speech was a mistake too.

[@abhishekpandey3244]

the puritanism of the loud mouth far left didn't help either, the only voices coming out of the left's echochamber were those far left voices which a lot of independents had a hard time coming to terms with.

[@conrad4852]

Eh…. Hard to tell. This was a higher turnout election than 2016 or 2012 or 2008 or 2004 or 2000 or 1996 or…. Only 2020 was a higher turnout election.

[@isakeiriksson7833]

​@abhishekpandey3244 what are you talking about?

[@Zarastro54]

@@abhishekpandey3244The “puritan far left” was nothing in volume or power compared to loudmouth MAGA lunatics. Stop spreading this nonsense when the data doesn’t support it. Democrats around the country avoid trying to sound “woke” like the plague and there were no high profile protests outside pro-Palestine ones.

[@aleyah_forlife]

What stuck out to me was Kamala parading the Cheneys around. Thats when I seriously wondered if they were trying to lose.

[@DSlav2488]

Parading them around? So first of all, they never "paraded" dick Cheney. She literally just acknowledged that he was voting for her. And liz? They had like 2 or 3 events. I would hardly call that "parading". Why exactly can't Kamala do some events with a republican? I don't understand. Donald Trump wad doing events with former democrats (rfk and gabbard). So Trump gets off Scott free parading those 2 losers but Kamala gets crushed for having like 2 events with liz Cheney? Can you possibly explain that logic?

[@doctorbigsmiles]

I realized it when they were ignoring Gaza and funding the genocide. I realized it when Biden fist bumped with MBS after claiming he would treat him like a pariah... i don't know what the play is going to be to "fix things" but I'm pretty pretty pretty sure, we've played ourselves and we're decades deep into a trajectory, that will likely wipe 90% of us from existence. Must be nice to be a billionaire and know that at least everyone else will die before you do

[@baalbaal]

Campaigning with the Princess Royal of Murder Inc. Who the fuck came up with that brainstorm?

[@novowels2030]

The Cheney thing only works if you can hammer home that the reason the Cheneys are over here is just how insane, mask-off fascist the Reps have become and that even the Cheneys are put off. Partly messaging failure, partly media failure.

[@aristizle8797]

I was optimistic right up until Obama's speech. He really said something like: "we aren't going to make your life better, but trump and the republicans are going to make it worse" Vote for "nothing will fundamentally change. Ugh

[@aheroictaxidriver3180]

Au contraire. Their goal has always been to lose to fascists, rather than socialists.

[@Shurehlm]

Exactly.

[@RhB-fan51]

You ain't all that wrong!

[@jamesoquinn9168]

Nailed it!

[@bigjared8946]

Liberals like capitalism + democracy. Fascists don't like the democracy part. Leftists don't like the capitalist part. Liberals see these two as nearly the same but they will side with capitalism when they fell the slightest threat from their left---->which leads to fascism.

[@baalbaal]

God, but sounds so fucking dead on the mark!

[@jasonhamre4036]

I received at least 5 to 600 texts from the dnc for surveys on several issues, but didn't need the input unless you gave them your money. People last summer had sticker shock money was tight. To me it showed a disconnect from working people with real life problems.

Very good point

[@davidd.9200]

Fwiw‐ the Republicans so this as well...I even get them in the mail

[@EricDaMAJ]

And yet you bought the Biden BS the economy was fine.

[@sumdude4281]

God yes. They only want your opinion, if you give money and texts....50 million test a night.

[@jbutler8585]

Don't worry, none of the strategists who got it so wrong will be fired. Times are tough after all, gotta look out for the hardworking people who sat around doing no work and no messaging, and expected a win to fall in their lap.

[@davidroberts1689]

When will Democrats appeal to their own base and leave the GOP voters alone? They've tried to win with the GOP and have lost both times.

[@ShadowSong634]

I agree 100%

[@thenotsodiscretewolf2098]

same time labor in the uk does.

[@grandgibbon2071]

That isn't what happened at all. You just can't accept the fact that progressives are the minority of hte party, most DNC voters are center left, to center right.

[@Ryuujinv01]

Their job is to lose. They are what in the pro wrestling scene they call "jobbers", the guy you bring out who's coded as an enemy for the crowd to boo at and then cheer when they get smacked.

[@Savalatte]

In what way did they appeal to GOP voters? Long term it's a very good idea to appeal to independents. I'd prefer a comfortable win over a nail biter.

[@tylerbailey9329]

The fact Trump even had a chance to begin with is inexcusable

[@doctorbigsmiles]

Trump is the result, of decades of carefully strategizing of fascist big money players. Just wait until they convince Dewayne The Rock Johnson to run for president... Dana White his vp.... omg this horror show may worsen for decades, we might look back at the 2020s one day and shed a tear, as we're put into mass concentration camps. Our species has destroyed the ecosystem, and it's only a matter of time before we're all caught under the collapse. What a sad reality we're in

[@RSW552]

FFS. That’s an indictment on the American electorate. Don’t try pretend otherwise…SMH.

[@Newton-Reuther]

Blame Republicans who knew he was bad but thought him winning would help them. They aren't safe from the Long Knives.

[@kushclarkkent6669]

Yep. We're still very much screwed when he's gone. This wave of idiocy that has engulfed the nation is not going away. The next trump won't be stupid and incompetent either.

[@rasputozen]

Blame the moron liberals who stayed home for gaza just to make the situation worse. That virtue-signaling faction of the left is braindead.

[@Robert_Bob_Bobrob]

They rather lose than win by doing anything that might hurt their real constituency, the donors. Both parties are funded by the same people so you get the same economic policy and you get to fight it out about the culture crap.

[@phiksit]

One of a myriad of reasons. Kamala got the same speech that Al Gore got... We know you probably won if you discount all the weird things that went on, but your not gonna beat their little game... so be a gracious loser and carry on. Someone has to be "the adults in the room".

[@CarlGerhardt1]

The GOP establishment was the same way...they've slowly been realizing that the one thing they need more than money, is votes.

[@PoochieCollins]

@@phiksit you're understating the importance of Dems kowtowing to donors over fiscal populism in affecting the election. The strongest individual reason polls found Democrats to lose was the economy, despite record low unemployment and equity returns. Republicans were more popular on most social issues, Dems on fiscal issues; the former pushed their advantage, the latter didn't b/c it would offend the wealthy donors.

[@TheSlippytongue]

ABSOLUTELY. Nailed it 👏

[@Jamick98Geass]

IMO it was the complete waste of time and money trying to get “good” republicans and moderates to vote against Trump. That and completely ceding ground to voters under 30 to the alt right podcast culture and manosphere influencers.

[@davidd.9200]

Trump won 95% of Republicans. How the he'll did Democrats become the party of Dick Cheney and Bill Crytal???

[@BaronVonOpium]

"Alt Right podcast culture", bro you're cooked 😂

[@Jamick98Geass]

@ Tim Pool literally got caught being paid by Russians to produce anti American propaganda. Joe Rogan regularly has anti vaxers, UFO conspiracy theorists, and self proclaimed white nationalists on his podcast. Andrew Tate encourages young men to scam people and abuse women. So yes, alt right podcast culture is a pipeline that perpetuates right wing dogwhistles and actively supports anti intellectualism. We know this definitively.

[@orlandolopezdevictoria243]

You call us names but you don’t take the time to sit down with us and ask us what we really think and why. “Trump is bad” is not a good argument. Or shaming us and looking down on us is also a bad argument. Try asking us serious questions on an even ground and maybe you’ll find out that we do have some valid points to make.

[@sumdumbbeats9879]

@@BaronVonOpium not as cooked as dems with their shit ass platform

[@robotubetwob]

If you want to focus on one person as the metaphor for why the Dems lost, it's Merrick Garland.

[@justinokraski3796]

One thing’s for sure. That guy better flee the country because I’m pretty sure both sides hate him, albeit for different reasons

[@stonedsasquatch]

He was a McConnell plant from the Obama times. This was all orchestrated by Moscow Mitch to lame duck the DoJ against republicans

[@galacticwarlock2271]

Oh yeah. I agree.

[@CavyWheek]

@@justinokraski3796Not too many people deserve this country's ire more than Milquetoast Garland.

[@TheTerrainWizard]

It actually goes further back than Merrick Garland nor prosecuting. The DNC (back in 2013) is responsible for choosing another Clinton corporate shill instead of a man for the people, like Bernie Sanders.

[@pennypierce6511]

They absolutely sold us out

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

To gross combination of cynicism and ineptitude but after I saw that pod save America interview.... I'm starting to attribute more of the issues to ineptitude

[@heyyoitsmebrian]

the dems sold regular Joe's like you and me out to the Woke mob... sad!

[@Shurehlm]

That's their job. Did you think they cared about you?

[@heyyoitsmebrian]

they sold guys like you and me out... to the woke mob ... smh.. .. sad!!!!

[@greenvelvet]

@@michaelcorcoran8768 are the pot safes are hilarious. Obama speech writers are only there to protect their legacy in the Obama administration. I don’t know how you can sit through that garbage. They have total Aaron Sorkin West Wing brain

[@Bibbzyy]

It’s almost like “Uncommitted” wasn’t a joke.

[@JADED2233-p7z]

No joke?

[@specters_art]

In the battleground states Harris was basically equaled to Biden’s totals in 2020. If Trump had the same support as in 2020 Harris would have won every battleground states except Arizona and North Carolina. Even if all third party votes went to Harris it wouldn’t have changed anything. Even turn out was higher in battleground states than in 2020. Even if Harris had the same percentage support of Arabs in Michigan as Biden did it wouldn’t have changed the results. I know you want to believe that the uncommitted movement did this but there is no facts to it. Maybe in other states that had these dynamics you wish but in the battleground states that actually decided the presidency it wasn’t the case. It was an influx of about 800,000 new voters in the battleground states mainly men, white and Latino that voted solely for Trump and not republicans down that secured Trump wins in battleground states when Democrats won senate and statewide measures across those same states

[@SnorkelSquad]

Except it still is, congrats on screwling over the Palestinians so Trump can build beach front property.

[@MatthewGreer-h3k]

I voted uncommitted than voted for Harris but I wasn’t pleased by it. But living in Omaha me not voting would have helped Trump.

[@SnorkelSquad]

Except Uncommitted still is, congrats on being feckless losers with blood on your hands.

[@ihatetoshiba]

There is a theory that the donors choose weak Democrats to run against rabid Republicans. Looking at how the Democrats who were chosen by the donor class act, I am inclined to believe this theory.

[@doctorbigsmiles]

Your theory is highly plausible

[@RationalistRebel]

Yeah, it's called "controlled opposition". With our current corporate political duopoly, one party is granted most of the money and power, the other is tasked with corralling any dissent. Noam Chomsky has warned about this issue for years, yet little has changed.

[@MrAlan1906]

This election had no republicans involved at all. The 2024 election was between the sane democrats vs the crazy democrats. The sane democrats won. Trump, Vance, RFK jr., Ramaswamy, Gabbard, Musk, Shanahan, Rogan and others are all recent democrats. Will nothing make you crazy’s happy 😂

[@zekie23]

ok alex jones

[@TheFamousMockingbird]

@@zekie23 lol how is it alex jones like when they literally were pumped with ONE BILLION DOLLARS

[@georgehoback3732]

It makes me angry that people say trans people have a lot of power. I have lived through a sudden and dramatic removal of our freedoms across the country. I have adult friends who can't get medical care or use public restrooms because of the state that they live in. And it all happened in just a year or two.

[@FrozEnbyWolf150-b9t]

And we're not the first minority about which this has been said. It's the same CT rhetoric coming from the same source.

[@DGN2324]

Conservatives aren't people.

[@tokilladaemon]

​@@casey1756if this were the 50s youd be saying "if blacks want to take the bus they can stand at the back, and if they want to use a drinking fountain they can use the correct one" 🤡

[@JoJoDaFox]

To be sure the last few yrs did more damage, but over my 37yrs as a transwoman, I have seen it when it was bad. This time around it will be a nightmare. Most of the younger trans generation hasn't ever had to use the buddy system " let your friends know what where and when " that's all we had back in the 80's. Now we have the same thing, BUT we have cell phones... All trans people should have their phones set for every picture taken to go to the cloud which friends or family members have access to. It's not if you will have a problem it's when, and in the worst case scenario what is left behind to identify those who committed the crime. When a person shows interest, and states can we keep this DISCRET "HUGE RED FLAG". If you go to meet someone for the 1st time make sure you get a picture of the lic plate if they are in a car. Yes for the next 4 years and into the future Trans people will be the target by everyone without a doubt. If you have to fight YOU DAMN WELL FIGHT LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT. I know this from experience, I am no priss by any meaning of the word and have fought quite a bit in my life, but these last few yrs I've had to defend my self many more times then I had in the previous yrs. Last thing I will tell any Trans person is you were courageous enough to Transition you're stronger than you think in mind and body never give in or doing something foolish to yourself. Prepair yourself for whats coming they are saying the quiet parts out loud now.

[@OpalDruscilla]

It was a good reminder that this country is trash.

[@AB-nk5wv]

I don’t know how we lost. I hugged 2 republicans every day from the convention. Not sure why that didn’t change their minds. 🤷‍♂️

[@AWildBard]

lol

[@iadorenewyork1]

Ha ha

[@abhishekpandey3244]

What the hell were you doing hugging republicans? you should have gone for the independents, the way republicans did.

[@iadorenewyork1]

@abhishekpandey3244 - I think she is kidding

[@rembrandt972ify]

You need to work on that hugging technique.

[@kjw6383]

My state threw 453,000 off the rolls and I read Georgia did the same. So that makes a difference.

[@jamestepera3356]

Not really. Trump won GA by basically the exact margin as the polling.

[@MrStyles784]

Voter registration purges and ballot challenges reached record levels across all of the swing states, yet almost nobody with a platform of any kind was willing to mention it for fear of being conflated with an election denier. Apparently ridiculous accusations are worse in their eyes than allowing fascists to take over via technicalities when they should have lost

[@MrAlan1906]

Sounds like a law suit.

[@IIITheDeadGamerIII]

@@rbu2136 where republicans have been pushing to illegally remove people off voting registers, which is a proven fact.

[@twelveguage1536]

Definitely a CULT!

[@seans63lemansSD]

Jeffreies is not the answer, thats for damn sure. Bernie Sanders is/was right about almost everything.

[@Knight-Bishop]

Always has been

[@chuckcribbs3398]

Sanders was bought off in 2016 with a new home! He’s a career politician who does nothing!

[@godfathaofyo]

but he's black

[@Poxell91]

​@@godfathaofyolmao

[@grandgibbon2071]

So yall listened to him when he said vote hillary, Vote Joe, Vote Kamala?

[@AZ-hg6kw]

Rank choice voting. Sick of these two parties.

[@markellzey1531]

Amen. We have a fascist party and moderate right wing party. So sick of both of them.

[@ninjalectualx]

One party. Fascist and fascist with a smile

[@Skywatcher16]

the only way you are going to get that is with the democrats getting power. specifically progressive leaning dems. the GOP wants to be rid of voting entirely. they have no interest in improving it. dems at the least, arent universally against the idea.

[@alexricky87]

Why would changing the way we vote solve the problem? People will still choose either party. It's not guaranteed that with rank-choice voting the outcome would be different. What needs to happen if better Civic education and better media literacy.

[@JoybuzzerX]

My state, a blue state had ranked voting on the ballot. I voted for it and hoped for it, and it lost, by a lot.

[@henryarvin6523]

Instead of going after the MORE than 30% of non-voters. Kammie went for the MINISCULE # of Liz Cheney votes.

[@abubatatu3241]

And pissed off a lot of the country in the process

[@danielbriggs991]

2016: "What did we get wrong?...Oh, ok, got it." 2024 (Schumer, paraphrased): "Screw the farmers! Screw the poor!"

[@Alex-zi1nb]

yeah, because the gqp LOVES the poor and the farmers. oh wait, they're just easily manipulated idiots

[@MABfan11]

they blamed the left in 2016 and put up token resistance, in2024, they just gave up and still blamed the left

[@talyahr3302]

That Schumer clip of him saying you'll lose dems but gain moderate Republicans plays nonstop in my head.

[@mori1bund]

@@talyahr3302 well, he also gained a few billionaire donors. ^^

[@georgesears934]

There's so much I want to say, I could type for days without rest and still not be done listing in full my grievances with the state of American politics and its knock-on effects on global politics. I've done my best to condense and compress it down to a single sentence. "We have no future and we must scream."

[@aleyah_forlife]

For those of us with kids we still need to pretend they'res hope, and psych meds.

[@doctorbigsmiles]

As someone once said, why bring a son or daughter into a world where you're paying to drink the water from

[@cameronmcleod8419]

This is going to be very obnoxious if I fail to articulate myself properly, but we've never "had a future." We only ever have this present moment to organize. I know shit is looking scarier by the day, but the only way out of this is to square our shoulders and meet this head-on.

[@skaaaaaaa]

Yep. Never be humble and see if you were wrong in any way shape or form. No course correction necessary. If only someone would have ran on something like free housing for all, maybe we would have won...... /s

[@chuckcribbs3398]

Project much???

[@TheybyBaby-c9m]

Thinking about how those 954 kids must feel having this entire hate campaign based on their existence is so infuriating.

[@doxpin7432]

Suicide attempt rates are 5x after SRS

[@ChrisJones-rm7uu]

What. Hate because people dont want men in women sports and they want their kids. Expose to transgender lifestyle, your crazy and dems will keep losing

[@shelbyschwarz7901]

Are we sure it is in the 900s? A lot of evidence suggests that figure is wrong.

[@shelbyschwarz7901]

I do not think your reporting on the trans medication AP article is accurate. It is 926 people of 5 million patients ages 8-17 who they looked at (which is not the entire population of adolescents ages 8-17 in the United States, around 74 million).

[@Mordakar]

As per Rogan's interview, under 5,000 during whatever that 5 year period was, something like 2016-2020, were undergoing puberty blockers and/or hormone therapy. This data pretty much aligns with that. There is something like an estimated 72 million minors, people under the age of 18, in the country. The idea that this is an epidemic, and that the idea's been allowed to flourish, is fucking tragic. What's worse, is that you have to believe not just the dogshit narrative, but that, in order for that to take place, virtually everyone you meet is some kind of monster that's perfectly satisfied with surgeries for kids on a lark. Couple that with the fact that even those that are primed to believe it should know better, just based on the cost of absolutely ANY medical procedure in this country, and you have a contender for one of the most asinine and brain dead moral panics this country has engaged in, with it's storied history of moral panics.

[@tmtb80]

Well said

[@peterhill8398]

Absolutely agree. Same thing in the UK and here in Australia. Commentators have made a career of trying to convince people that trans-people are going to swarm across the nation like a horde of orcs. Junk food, sugar, drugs and tobacco are far bigger threats to the well being and health of young people. Stirring up panic about trans-people is like the entire 7th Cavalry seeing 3 Native Americans and screaming ‘we’re surrounded!’

[@ShiWolfe]

It's projection. The MAGAts are the monsters who do think about harming people and believing everyone is like them.

[@jaccl4539]

Dead wrong , same numbers still an epidemic for a serious disease - your misdiagnosing the problem, flip the equation and the same number is in regards to gential mutilation and this audience would have an issue and claim the same problem. If this was the tuskgee experiment, the same number would be a problem. This comes down to is changing biological patterns for preference a danger to society or not. I don't have an answer for it, but the majority currently oppose the idea.

[@bruceelliott4822]

Your data is old. Trans has become near histeria among young girls with multiple kid in a single classroom. It's time to stop sterilizing, converting and mutilating children.

[@RobertSmith-gx3mi]

Well, one thing is clear.The voters cannot be blamed for nominating the wrong candidate to run against trump because we didn't have that opportunity or choice.

[@mwhite212]

How does that change the fact that more people decided to vote for a rapist and felon rather than a black woman? They absolutely take the blame.

[@chrisk5270]

Logically a broomstick should be able to run against Trump and win. Trump won because stuff is more expensive than it was and fools believe that Biden/dems turned the price dial.

[@dominod5640]

It's been over a decade since the dems allowed a popular figure to run at the top of the ticket. It was a miracle that Obama was ever able to break through and prevent Hillary from destroying the party back in 2008

[@djhavenm]

We truly haven't had that choice since 2008 because the party elite interfered in both the 2016 and 2020 primaries.

[@spiritualhammer392]

Democrats ALWAYS run the wrong person.

[@AnonymousAnonymous-fm9iw]

she was doing well until they put tim walz in the corner and she started palling around with liz cheney and mark cuban

[@baalbaal]

She did manage to pull the party out of a nose dive but it came too late. If she had a few more months, oh Liz Cheney, Mark Cuban...oh never mind.

[@balthorpayne]

Yup. That was NOT the move to make. Completely backwards for the momentum they had if they quadrupled down on Tim Walz politics.

[@KimeeZM]

@@baalbaal I think the societal auto pilot started to level us out for a little while when biden took his hands off the controls. but once Harris moved past the "weird" meme, we were losing altitude fast again.

[@HammerStudioGames]

​@@KimeeZMthey dropped a completely successful attack to try and court Republicans. I swear someone in the DNC has a fetish for bipartisanship or something. They should have been mobilizing their base, not trying to court braindead bootlickers

[@thehappyclam3942]

The more people knew about Harris and her policies the less they liked her, she should have not campaigned at all.

[@preston6676]

This was my fear of Biden becoming the nominee back in 2020...I think Biden insistence on being "center" and Garland's foot dragging on Trump prosecution really killed any enthusiasm Dems had built since 2018.

[@AlexsGoogleAccount]

It's infuriating how much focus the DNC has taken on promoting "centrist" "moderate" candidates, when "centrist" and "moderate" mean capitulating to milder forms of right-wing policies. "center" is utterly meaningless if we use it to only refer to the exact middle between 2 positions. If one party is for race-based slavery and the other party is for racial segregation, our "center" position is invariably cruel and inhumane. It's been so frustrating to me how measures of objective reality, such as the consensus of experts in fields, medical research, and study are not weighed at all in measures of what's "center".

[@grandgibbon2071]

yet biden got more votes than any US president ever, hmmmmm. It's probably less the centrist thing, and more that people were just unhappy with the economy, and immigration. The dems never battled those two lines well.

[@edfhobbies556]

MAIL IN BALLOTS !!! They were pushed hard for 6 months in 2020 making it easier for people to vote. I didn't see a proportional increase in mail in ballots as the early vote record turn out

[@TroyJScott]

Mail in ballots are what screwed Trump in 2020.

[@tsafa]

The mail-in ballots worked just fine for Trump. There's no Advantage when both sides are doing it. Mail-in ballots should be stopped and we should go back to a single Election Day.

[@edfhobbies556]

@tsafa They worked for Trump but didn't work for Dems cause this go around Dems didn't push them for 6 months like in 2020. I would agree on single voting day if mail ins can be universal and two key so it's easier for EVERYONE to vote. Standing in line for 3 hours on a work day is for the privileged

[@MackerelSkyLtd]

@@tsafaI live in CA and we have universal mail in voting. As it should be. They should just be allowed to pre-tally.

[@jamescash887]

@@MackerelSkyLtdwe aren’t in a pandemic anymore. Do away with the mail in ballots. They need to do early in person voting, absentee ballots for people who have extreme circumstances, and voter ID for everyone. Pretty common sense stuff.

[@Lumi_Lumi13]

The Democratic Party is majority liberal/neo-liberal. Liberals/Neo-liberals will ALWAYS side with fascists to uphold the status quo (Oligarchy/Capitalism). ALWAYS.

[@a_kazakis]

That stupid leftoid talking point has to die eventually. This is completely ahistorical. This has the same energy like people saying leftists like fascists because the communists sided with the nazis in the early days. In most cases liberalism is the first line of defense against authoritarianism. And this talking point becomes even more absurd if you consider the last election, where liberals were more anti Trump, while leftists chose to take shots more at the dems for not being "good enough". If we agree that Trump is the real threat to democracy, that would mean that leftists helped the fascists again, while liberals were trying to save the day, even by voting for a mediocre candidate.

[@grandgibbon2071]

What are you talking about the neo-liberals, and liberals were all on Kamala's side, and opposed to Trump who is actually what you are talking about. I bet you think yourself a socialist, and yet you sided with Trump so who is the real traitor here?

[@jayhpaq]

Go and form your own party then. Progressives will never win an election in a center/ right country. That’s the reality you geniuses fail to understand.

[@umbralupus6488]

​@@grandgibbon2071Making a lot of assumptions based on nonexistent evidence there. And honestly, the likelihood of you knowing what socialism is in order to judge who is one is or is not one is very low, given your... talking points.

[@keelingcurve58]

Liberal is progressive- neo-liberal is not (it's fascist) Democrats are useless now- the GOP and MAGA worse. Both parties are aligned to their donors and corporations.

[@scottdrake5159]

Worse, the campaign told possible voters that they weren't wanted.

[@kev792]

@@scottdrake5159 what possible voters? The actual strategy was to target what voters wanted, which was talking about the economy, inflation, and immigration. They didn’t do that and now we have the result.

[@rudeboyjohn3483]

​@@kev792 The DNC, and this is not hyperbole, literally told us to fck off because we wouldn't vote for Trump policies and gcide. Literally. They shamed and ostracized us.

[@RodmanTackleAdvisor]

​@@kev792I'm one. I've been a Democrat since I registered to vote in 02. I'm lower class, "uneducated"(I have a culinary degree, which, according to the DNC and their media, doesn't count because I didn't go to a 4 year school) and I'm a straight(call me cis and see what happens) white male. They called me stupid, racist, misogynistic, and quite literally told us to sit this one out. I voted Trump. If he's "Hitler" how come not one democrat contested his certification? How come they're willing to play ball? The DNC lost me forever. I have a daughter. She turned 18 this year. She voted Trump too. She got her nose broken in a hs basketball game by a (trans) biological male. She got in trouble for complaining about it. He didn't. That was her reason. You ran the moderates off. Then, you ran off the youth. What did you expect? 2016 all over again for exactly the same reason.

[@scottdrake5159]

@@kev792 Arab Americans. Anyone who gives a shit. Queer, immigrants. Where were you? Are you real?

[@mayayamato7351]

​@@kev792let's start with the Arab population of Michigan, who'd been consistently Democrats for decades after the Republicans became the party of anti-arab and islamaphobic sentiment.

[@xxZoolanderxx]

It was like watching a slow moving trainwreck. Did they want to lose? Sure seemed like it.

[@kuroshashu]

I think that they would've like to win, but it's better to lose an election than to lose a donor, so any substantial anti-oligarchical policy is off the table.

[@Quagma-b2i]

I've come to believe the Democratic party is doing exactly what it's told to do by the big money - they are told to lose.

[@grandgibbon2071]

No they didn't and you are the reason why the Dems have such a ridiculous fight. They didn't parade Mark, or The Chaneys around, they pointed out that these people sided with Kamala because of democracy, and the republic despite all their differences. Also FYI Mark Cuban is actually what a capitalist, and rich person should be.

[@xxZoolanderxx]

@grandgibbon2071 I'm the reason? Hardly. I'm not even American. Just an outsider's observation.

[@grandgibbon2071]

@@xxZoolanderxx doesn't matter your thinking is the problem.

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

None of us are free until all of us are free.

[@skaaaaaaa]

Meaning, all issues are related? 😆

[@Cobalt985]

@@skaaaaaaa Effectively yes, it's basic intersectionality

[@godfathaofyo]

who's not free?

[@KillWokePeople]

The party that tried to erase white people is worried about "not being free" lmao why do y'all deserve anything good??? 🥱

[@jamescash887]

Not true

[@do_not_want_to]

It is important to note that not only does the research indicate that these anti-trans policies are harmful to trans youth, but that a lot of these policies are harmful to cis youth as well.

[@ESPLTD782]

No. The reason the democrats lost is because they had 4 years to do something. Anything and Americans were not happy with what they did. How is that so hard to understand. Jeez…

[@TwoForFlinchin1]

Americans literally don't vote based on what actually will help them. It's a narrative problem not a policy one

[@richardarriaga6271]

​@@TwoForFlinchin1Yup. There were good policies but Dems didn't run on them.

[@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis]

Biden was the best president of your life and had the most pro consumer and pro worker agenda in 100 years. The problem is the corporate news tells you what to do and you do it.

[@ESPLTD782]

@@TwoForFlinchin1 the fact that you think this is why they lost. Until you change that mindset, nothing will change. People voted on policy. They didn’t like the immigration situation. We all know we had more money until Covid happened. The “Americans are dumb” theory is wrong. Also, the democratic candidate was GIVEN the position after they forced out Joe Biden. Let’s be honest here people. She was not a good candidate. Obviously. Her campaign was not good at all. Obviously, based on the outcome, and the fact that she couldn’t speak off the cuff AT ALL. The facts are right in front of these people’s faces and they keep coming up with different excuses. How about spend 10 minutes to talk to the actual people who voted and didn’t vote, and you’ll get the same answers. It’s not rocket science.

[@drpepperman2765]

​@@richardarriaga6271because most people don't vote on policies, it's more about the candidate and their ability to sell themselves through charisma. Thats why Obama won, the guy is genuinely likable compared to Romney and McCain who were both boring old guys. Same with Trump compared to Clinton and Harris, hate him all you want you cant deny the guy is a natural when it comes to showbiz and presenting for the camera. That's why the Dems keep losing, Biden was a fluke due to the pandemic and Trump's bungling of that whole mess. Just about every other time since the creation of the TV, the most charismatic candidate has won. It's not rational, but welcome to himan nature, we've never done things rationally and the more you research history, the more that rings true. Charisma is the most important quality in a presidential candidate and the dems seem absolutely alergic to the concept, no wonder they fail so consistent

[@michellerenner6880]

Harris’s support in the first few weeks was amazing. The party back room should have stayed out.

[@jingbot1071]

The party's back room should be taken out back.

[@sommers35]

The longer people saw Harris…. the less they thought she was presidential material.

[@michellerenner6880]

@@jingbot1071 We have the same problem here in Canada…too many unelected people running the country.

[@michellerenner6880]

@@sommers35 I don’t’ agree with that. But things soured when she swung right.

[@nmappraiser9926]

@@sommers35 The longer they were blasted with Corporate Media spin, you mean. People who actually saw Harris were fine with her. People who saw out of context TikToks and Fox clips hated her. The problem was not the candidate, it was the messaging.

[@SirPatrickBossington]

I said it all along: No possible way that tRUmp added new voters since 2020. This was always the Democrat party's election to lose. Something this current party truly excels at.

[@chuckcribbs3398]

How could you possibly know that? Look at how many voters were registered in Pennsylvania alone. Do some research.

[@godfathaofyo]

@@chuckcribbs3398 but tRump!!!!

[@jamescash887]

Bro, republicans registered 300-400k more voters in Pennsylvania this cycle. What the hell are you talking about.

[@watajob]

Thanks!

[@chrisevans1255]

Shoulda run Bernie. How many times we gotta tell ya???

[@OhNotThat]

Democrats are closer to running Hunter Biden than Bernie.

[@robynpress9534]

I will never be convinced that Bernie wouldn't have won in 2016 if he had been allowed to run.

[@chrisevans1255]

@robynpress9534 He was denied 3 times, in fact. This is why traditional Left voters have abandoned the Dems. We smell the smoke-filled back room corruption and we loathe it.

[@callsignapollo_]

​@robynpress9534 we've seen the numbers of people who voted for trump after bernie got shut down. We needed a populist that sounded like they cared about real working class people in 2016 and got strong armed into an establishment candidate who promised nothing to help people, but she was a woman and her opponent was bad! And then they did the same thing this time around, and got the same result.

[@yuukovukovich9996]

The Dems are happier now than if they would have won with Bernie.

[@kingsfan2099]

Maybe Dems should've held MAGA accountable.

[@wendyschneider4490]

💯

[@abhishekpandey3244]

They tried everything in their arsenal to take him down. The thing with Trump is that orange dude is like a black hole, the more mass you throw at it, the bigger and more powerful it gets. The left has been doing the same here in India against Modi and continues to fail in spectacular fashion everytime. The only times the left does win here in state elections is when they focus more on themselves than dragging Modi, a lot of dems in the red belt there also did this and it paid off. Just the messaging of 'orange man bad' isn't enough

[@Johnywang1]

Ty MJ. As a muslim person living in this country. I apprec so much that you have held the line and not resort to voter shaming. I also extra apprec the coverage of palestine. People like venk think u can work with maga. The racism and hatred isnt the bug. Its the feature. 2 days ago it was mexicans, yesterday it was Palestinians, today its indians . The dems gotta wake up and actually learn something

[@RhB-fan51]

Sorry, but voter shaming in this instance is quite in order. People do get what they vote for. Though luck for being so stupid.

[@Johnywang1]

@RhB-fan51 who do u want to voter shame? If u want to shame GOPers who voted to break the co7ntry i understand But if I wanna blame this on black women, Muslims, and trans people... this may not be the content for u

[@richardarriaga6271]

How do you ignore stupidity? Simple self-interest would go for Harris unless you were Musk or Bezos with a rocket into space. You have to realize the US population is full of morons. Coddling us will do nothing.

[@wesleystreet]

@@RhB-fan51Always blame the voter, never blame the party and candidate with the power to do the right thing. JFC, liberals will never learn a lesson because they believe in nothing.

[@MackerelSkyLtd]

@@RhB-fan51Yeah. Based on the results, I’m not sure we have identified the problem yet. Why do we believe the message from Dems was heard by overall voters? If the message wasn’t heard, then how is it useful to focus on whether it was the right message?

[@TheShwiggityshwah]

At some point you have to wonder if incompetence is deliberate.

[@yuukovukovich9996]

It is. They work way harder to stop leftists than fascists.

[@jingbot1071]

Gee, I wonder if the party being lobbied by the exact same corporate entities as their opposition might fumble if it's in the best interests of those entities?

[@cosmosofinfinity]

It is, Obama made phone calls to pull everyone out and unite against Bernie in 2020, the singular most important time we have ever needed a guy like Bernie

[@yuukovukovich9996]

@cosmosofinfinity They would definitely prefer the current situation over the timeline where Bernie gets a second term. Hell, they're probably hoping that Elon helps them marginalize and eliminate the left in deep blue districts like he said he would

[@yuukovukovich9996]

@jingbot1071 Under a Trump regime, they can fundraise and look like the good guys. And if enough ppl suffer, they can move to the right even more, run Hillary in 2028, vote-shame people, and rinse and repeat if they lose to the GOP again.

[@garychurch9237]

A couple weeks before election night I somehow knew we would lose. I don't know why I felt so certain about it. I broke down and cried a couple times and I am a hard ass old veteran. The end of America. If democracy ever returns it will never be what was. We are divided and will never stand united again.

[@greeneagles337]

Thanks for serving. You deserved better

[@generalz101]

Never say never Gary

[@parsonj39]

There's always been a strong undercurrent of racists and libertarian loons. It's easy to think the country used to be more united than it actually was.

[@Skywatcher16]

it may be a long time, longer than anyone alive now might see, but "never" is unlikely. we came back from the civil war after all.

[@cmasterson]

I saw the slow down a little after the VP debate. It was like the last weeks was different.

[@matthewtaylor8394]

The Democrats delivered record growth and that growth went straight into the pockets of the rich, it did not go to the middle or working classes. So the middle and working classes didn't show up to vote for them. There is no material difference between corporate Democrats and Republicans to the lives of the majority of Americans, the wealth gap widens and the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

[@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis]

It didn't go into just the rich. What the f were they supposed to do? They were supporting unions and pushing for higher wages and trying to combat the price gouging, while the Republicans attacked workers over and over. Capitalist media was all in on rehabbing the Republican image because Biden Challeneged Trickle down. People like Emma were supposed to be allies, but she was out because "biden old." TYT is a psy op to pump right wingers into media for crap like this, I 100 percent think that now.

[@kev792]

@@matthewtaylor8394 this is factually not true. There was real wage growth among the working class and middle class but the issue I recall in an article I read was that inflation was higher among the middle class rather than working class. There was another study where the respondents were asked are their financial situation better than a year ago. Majority responded yes but when asked about the economy they flipped and said no. The voters think they are still living in the Covid economy but most of the economy is back to pre pandemic levels. Inflation is down, gas is down, etc. The only thing that is pretty high is the housing market. Biden and the democrats didn’t set the record straight and hammer home the accomplishments. They let republicans take control of the narrative and they road it to a November victory 🤷🏽‍♂️.

[@AlexsGoogleAccount]

Democrats at least advance consumer protections, and Trump's judge picks ABSOLUTELY affect the lives of Americans and will make life worse for working Americans for an entire generation. Don't get me wrong, the Democrat party is terrible, but there is no "both sides" here.

[@Pårchmēntôs]

@@kev792 every working American is bringing home less real income than the working class did 50 years ago. There was huge economic growth but it was almost exclusively in the stock market, which is where the richest keep and make most of their wealth. It doesn’t matter that wages are up a tiny bit when the cost of living has skyrocketed in the last 5 years. The only fix to this is to tax the super rich and the corporations at the same levels as we did in the 1960s and tax stock market gains at comparable levels to the income tax but it will never happen with these 2 parties in power.

[@jamescash887]

@@kev792you are telling a half truth. Inflation is coming down in the last 6-12 months but that doesn’t erase the 3 years people were crushed by it. Peoples wages are up but that means nothing when inflation is higher than their pay raise. The democrats tried this lie and the American people weren’t buying it.

[@andrewharmony]

I'm in Idaho and I have many college friends who tried voting but were turned away because Idaho no longer allows student IDs to count as proof of residence to vote. I luckily went to vote early and was turned away, so I had enough time to quickly register to vote back home in Virginia and vote by mail instead, but I know many other students who tried to vote on election day and were turned away because they didn't know the voter laws changed here. I wouldn't be surprised if, on top of all the reasons discussed in this video for why people didn't turn out to vote, there were also a lot of new voter laws that went into effect blocking people from voting, which seems to not be getting talked about a lot.

[@hubcap9294]

Tbh I really don't think Gaza pushed the needle. As tragic as it is, I'd be shocked if 15% of the country would say they have a strong opinion about it regardless of the side. Despite the coverage and activism, it's a conflict across the world that frankly affects a minuscule portion of citizens. MAYBE it made the difference in Michigan, but the sad reality is people simply do not care.

[@kev792]

It didn’t one bit. Most people were concerned about immigration, economy, and inflation, when looking at the data and exit polls.

[@hubcap9294]

@@kev792 Well to be fair, the exit polls only include people who voted. We're taking about how many people actually didn't vote at all because of Gaza, which I still do not think are many at all.

[@kev792]

@@hubcap9294 fair. There are people who stayed home. And yea people stayed home for lots of reasons. I’d be curious to see the data on why tho.

[@back40flopdogg30]

I'm not a math professor, but a 15 point swing is an utter landslide. Unfortunately the anti genocide vote was only 5-7% of dem base voters, with whom kamala would have still won handily with.

[@meganegan5992]

​@@kev792I'd say she absolutely lost Michigan based on Gaza. The margin there was very slim as a swing state, and it is the most Muslim state in the union, so whether they stayed home or split their ticket third party, they were a large enough voting bloc to swing the state against her.

[@JohnClarkW]

I voted for Harris, because she wasn't Trump. Sadly Harris gave us no reason to vote FOR her. There was no plan on housing costs. Her only healthcare plan was expanding Medicare to help with drug prices, but to hell with the actual insurance or general healthcare costs. This was lost over inflation, healthcare, and housing costs. I had to hold my nose over the war in Gaza.

[@keelingcurve58]

Harris made the mistake of being afraid of progressives- thats the problem now in the democratic party.

[@daveharrison84]

she promised to build 3 million new houses and have a subsidy for first time buyers.

[@keelingcurve58]

@@daveharrison84 What is happening in LA, will not stay in LA- climate risks are growing rapidly-the media has failed to inform the public- politicians do not care- now you see the end result. No place in the world will be immune from an increasingly unstable climate.

[@MrPtown247]

Trump,Biden, Pelosi, three great examples why we need age limits for federal representatives

[@visarr]

The age-ist left.

[@everythingisterrible8862]

But then no more Bernie. The revolving door favors capital because you can never get to know who someone is. It's not the age that's the problem with those three, and the people that'd replace them (Shapiro, Newsom, etc.) aren't any better.

[@grandgibbon2071]

@@visarr except for Bernie of course, cause he isn't older then all of them.

[@grandgibbon2071]

@@everythingisterrible8862 Also they have term limits it's called not re-electing them.

[@Klako-ls6yt]

@@visarr It was the right that made age an issue when Trump was running against Biden.

[@BuffBroc]

We were given a choice between MAGA Republicans and Bush-Cheney Republicans. Why would anyone bother getting out to vote for that?

[@scottstallings5029]

😅 GO TRUMP BABY G0!!🇺🇸❤️⚡️🇺🇸❤️⚡️🇺🇸❤️⚡️🇺🇸❤️⚡️

[@wesleystreet]

@@scottstallings5029 Stay poor.

[@scottstallings5029]

@wesleystreet GO TRUMP BABY G0!! 2025 IS GOING TO BE A FANTASTIC YEAR!! 🇺🇸❤️⚡️🇺🇸❤️⚡️🇺🇸❤️⚡️🇺🇸❤️⚡️🇺🇸❤️⚡️

[@Smellanie4121]

@@scottstallings5029it’s already starting off to a terrible start

[@CarlGerhardt1]

Thinking that today's Democrat party is just like Bush/Cheney Republicans shows how out of touch the Democrat base is. (On their enthusiasm for disastrous economic Globalism, yes, they're very similar. Almost everything else...they're completely different.)

[@Lonnie.Stoudt]

Pelosi bears a LARGE share of the responsibility for this loss, as she does for several of Biden's largest policy failures... then, too, there was that ridiculous swing to the right almost immediately after Walz "wowed" most of us into thinking we might be getting some small glimmer of progressive motion. Finally, the utter refusal of the Dems to abandon Israel to the deserved results of its own policies.

[@keelingcurve58]

Pelosi needs to retire.

[@abubatatu3241]

Zionism needs to retire

[@jPuma817]

77milloom Trump to 75millon Harris, there is 160m registered, so at least 8 million sat out, we can't assume they would've voted for Harris or Trump tho, in 2020 Biden got 81 million and Trump 74 million, so Harris got 6 million less than Biden but Trump gained 3 million

[@LycanBitez]

A majority of voters are extremely sexist. Similar margins to 2016 and Hilary. It really is that simple. Especially given that Trump ran his entire campaign, both times, on sexism and racism and it fucking worked.

[@chuckcribbs3398]

That was 15M fake ballots. How did we suddenly have that many new voters? Obama and Hillary never even got near that many! Do the math!! And those 15M stayed home? After voting for a demented old man??!! Cmon.

[@drippyrubzz8994]

Can't believe you still think Biden got 81million votes that's the problem you guys thought yall were starting there 😂😂

[@jPuma817]

@drippyrubzz8994 Well, after 4 years, there is no proof, no evidence of "election fraud" from Trump or any republican or anybody , the tally stands

[@grandgibbon2071]

@@drippyrubzz8994 Yeah I can, shit was fucked in 2020, so everyone was just voting out the guy in power during it, same thing as now.

[@learntosharemore6263]

How many refused to vote for genocide? "No votes for genocide" signs all over my Richmond VA neighborhood.

[@CRrrr-gq1so]

No, this comes down to our national media and emotionally charged voters. The media has been complicit in allowing the right wing propagandists to lie without accountability. But voters listened to their emotions, which were affected by dishonest ploys by the nazis and voted against their best interest.

[@George-lt6jy]

The democratic leadership needs to go. The democratic leadership needs to go.

[@thenotsodiscretewolf2098]

they need aoc but they wont.

[@uncomplicatedi]

Citizens united strikes again. Its now every 2 years and has gone deep into state races

[@mosesoftheblock2311]

The couch wins.

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

Not with Vance in charge.

[@crisisalert3029]

​@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426Especially when he's in charge. He likes those rough corners.

[@TroyJScott]

The couch won in 2020, except this time folks couldn’t just mail in their vote, they had to actually go and vote. Thats why mail in voting should be very limited

[@Knight-Bishop]

​@@TroyJScott Nothing says your worldview is unpopular like wanting fewer people voting. 😂

[@jingbot1071]

Flawless victory. Fatality.

[@patdavis3043]

I wonder how Harris would have done if she committed to defunding Israel.

[@merriemelodiesfan7425]

She wouldn't have because she would have loss the Jewish vote by defunding Israel the same way Democrats lose the Palestinian vote. It's a double bind no matter who is the Democratic nominee.

[@Lanirderosa-d7m]

No winners just us losers

[@normanbishop4787]

She would have lost even worse. Joe six pack supports Israel.

[@kev792]

It wouldn’t have changed. Most of the voters concerns were about the economy, prices, inflation, and immigration.

[@back40flopdogg30]

Imagine the 5-7 million dem base voters that acted on the moral imperative to reject genocide. Now imagine them back in, browbeating every friend and family member to come with them. There's your answer. This was obvious to a lot of the usual dem voters, but hey who cares what we think.

[@1_MrFantasy]

I think if the admin would have done just the bare minimum to show some compassion towards Palestine, she wins.

[@jeremygregorio7472]

The problem was we couldn't vote. We had 7-hour wait times. They killed the voting rights act and we didn't fix that. Democrats thought everyone would just vote early or by mail and that's just not how people think

[@jamescash887]

That is such BS. The voting rights act was a terrible bill. This is really simple. They need to do early voting, absentee ballots for those with extreme circumstances, and voter ID for everyone. If someone can’t afford an ID (which is probably a minuscule number of people) federal government should provide states money to give them for free. Next, who is this “we” couldn’t vote? Don’t speak for me. I voted just fine. If you waited till the last day and had the option to early vote then that is on you. Even if what you were saying is true, you could still vote, you just didn’t want to wait. Again, that is on you.

[@jeremygregorio7472]

@jamescash887 found the racist.

[@realdanrusso]

Hm...I feel like the Democrat's support for Israel had little to no effect on the vote

[@RodmanTackleAdvisor]

Agreed. The RNC had the same stance. It didn't move the needle.

[@MrPickledede]

Because the incessant violent protests and harrasmant of random Jews throughout the country and the constant blocking of roads by university kids who know nothing but Islamic hate and propaganda against the Jews, Israel and the USA doest exactly garner sympathy and support

[@ryanvannice7878]

Aren't the majority of Jews in the US aligned with the Democratic Party? It's likely that being tougher on Israel would've lost more Jewish voters than gained with other groups.

[@sarahb822]

Please relay this to Cenk and TYT!!! We have been saying she didn't lost the popular vote by a great margin. But I think they know that.

[@grandgibbon2071]

weather by a mile, or an inch, a wins a win.

[@asare240]

I refused to vote because of the party's unabashed support for genocide in Gaza, dunno how many other people were like me but 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@drodgyn]

Backing away from war criminals, Israel (but I repeat myself), and cops would have helped.

[@kev792]

@@drodgyn not really. Voters didn’t really care about Israel or cop(wtf does this have to do with anything lol). Voters cared about immigration, inflation, and economy. Democrats didn’t hammer home those points enough.

[@AlexsGoogleAccount]

@@kev792 Voters' concerns about immigration were entirely manufactured and based on disinformation. I'm with you on the inflation and economics, though. Economic indicators showed that inflation was coming down under Biden and we narrowly avoided a recession, but this doesn't reflect the experiences of every day Americans: if prices went up 20% because of "inflation", and the inflation rate goes down, that doesn't matter if prices are still up 20%. At that point, campaigning on falling inflation just feels like a form of gaslighting.

[@grandgibbon2071]

Not at all. Cops are actually fairly popular across the board, and same with Israel.

[@kev792]

@@AlexsGoogleAccount food price increases are more like 3% according to the US BLS. Although state to state varies.

[@AlexsGoogleAccount]

@@kev792 From 2019 to 2023, food prices increased by 27.3% *2019* 1.9% increase *2020* 3.4% increase *2021* 3.9% increase *2022* 9.9% increase *2023* 5.8% increase *2019 - 2023* 1.019 × 1.034 × 1.039 × 1.099 × 1.059 = 1.272898 = 27.3% increase U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics: Food and beverages in U.S. city average, all urban consumers, not seasonally adjusted. CPI-All Urban Consumers.

[@60015]

If you don't think that Kamala trans ad created any new Trump voters you really don't talk to any normies lol

[@SuperAsefasef]

The other thing about negative partisanship is it only works as a motivator if you actually do something. If someone voted for dems in 2018, 2020, and 2022, because they recognized the threat posed by republicans only for those dems to do absolutely nothing to actually address that threat, and then see them run a repeat of 2020, it’s real hard to motivate to vote.

[@AtomicBuffalo]

Saying Biden should have gotten more economic progressivism out of Manchin and Sinema is naive at best.

[@TheSkipAd]

My only question about the election is how did President Musk know 4 hours ahead of time?

[@phiksit]

Oh you and me both... there's dozens of stinkers that are bothering me that no one has explained. And then my comments about it are getting shadow banned.

[@TroyJScott]

Because he’s badass, and is way ahead of the curve

[@Knight-Bishop]

​@@TroyJScott ...The guy who uses sockpuppets to tell himself he's a good dad because the only one of his kids who doesn't hate him is too young to do so? Badass? 😂

[@abhishekpandey3244]

A lot of data scientists and analysts at big tech who have access to user data of majority of Americans(hundreds of millions of records) saw it coming days before the elections. We were laughing at the silly poll results that MSM were parading around.

[@Cobalt985]

@@TroyJScott LOOOL he's badass? You ever wonder why you get that look from women?

[@louisebernier7500]

They stayed home for Hillary, came out for Biden and stayed home again for Kamala. You know what America's issue is. Why has Equality Bill never passed? Same reason.

[@aryaastark9201]

Yeah, it had nothing to do with Gaza. This is the progressive bubble where people who don't interact with real people think they know how real people think. We lost because a majority of Americans are bigots. Plain and simple. People would rather hate marginalized people and suffer rather than vote for their own interests and see small improvements. I can't even be mad like I was initially because ultimately this is who America is. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@donaldhammons7380]

Nah, Hillary and the Dems alienated voters in 2016 by colluding against Bernie. They were all so smug and absolutely certain they would beat Trump, they tossed aside votes. I mean, she didn't even bother visiting key swing states. 2020 saw a rise in young voters and mail in ballots countered Republicans voter suppression tactics such as shutting down all but a handful of voting centers per county. In 2024, Biden only stayed in the race as long as he did to avoid primaries. Kamala has never been popular. Her time as DA in California was atrocious. Maybe put up someone who actually holds the ideals the party is preaching instead of just flowery words and promises we know will never be kept.

[@elizabethschubert7803]

Hillary got more votes than Trump. Kamala got more votes than Obama did.

[@bklyntonw3187]

Dark skin didn’t help Kamala as well given the opponent that liked to weaponize it every chance he got.

[@Savashri]

The only reason Biden won is because Trump dropped the ball with covid, motivating a lot of people to get him out. This time around people saw the expanded social safety net get reeled in by the Dems. We saw them lift a large number of families out of poverty - and then drop them right back into it without a fight. We saw reports of corporate price gouging and not a whisper of a windfall profits tax. Economic pain was inflicted on the people in the name of fighting inflation. Housing became increasingly unaffordable. And then you had the atrocities in Gaza. People didn't want to support Trump, but they also didn't see much of value in Biden's administration after the last 4 years - and Kamala was part of that admin and made no real moves to distance herself from it.

[@CriticalLion275]

What do u mean democrats had nothing to Ofer??? JOY ! JOY!JOY!! You know , joy of having almost two billion dollars in their hands, and they went wild! Parties, music, sharing the cash and lots of JOY. And the voters? Ahhh they will be so happy about them being joyful, and would go out in millions to give them a win. That is how stupid and ignorant their campaign was😏

[@daveharrison84]

The democrats had policies and they were not hard to find. You are being deliberately obtuse.

[@crazyman8472]

“What we’ve got here is a failure to communicate…” 🤦‍♀️

[@christopherconard2831]

But she ran a perfect campaign. The TV told me so.

[@mikem820]

As a Vietnam vet that lives in Wisconsin and consider myself left of Bernie I stayed home. This Gaza atrocity that we are actively participating in has me shaking with rage. Bidens and Harris refusal to even address it has lost me totally as a democrat. Sorry because I was a solid D voter and I don’t see me coming back

[@clownshow89]

Enjoy the consequences of not voting for harm reduction

[@drpepperman2765]

​​@@clownshow89all we ever vote for is harm reduction, never an actual solution to the harm in the first place. No shit people are feeling like staying home and not voting. When every 4 years we need to vote because it's "the most important election of our lives," people stop listening, especially when things dont get substantially better when the "good" side wins. Give us someone whose actually willing to fix the issues plaiging Americans, and you'll see us turn out in droves. We dont want harm reduction, we want to stop the harm fully and its clear neither side is interested in that right now. Y'all don't wanna fix things? Fine, in that case I dont want to vote since apparently nobody is doing their jobs in this system, I'd rather it fall apart than let the rot continue to fester. Consequences cut both ways, stop listening to the people and they stop voting for your elitist party

[@yanenn2151]

Trump will be even more hawkish on israel. That was a brilliant reasoning you had there.

[@big_guy_of_leiden5688]

@@clownshow89harm reduction got us an election between 2012 republicans and fascists politicians should have to earn votes we got into this mess because democrats took the progressive wing of their party for granted

[@AlexsGoogleAccount]

I empathize. This atrocity was one of the key moments in this race that reinforced that Democrats aren't a humane option and will adamantly refuse to let Progressive voices influence their policy. But things are about to get so much worse.

[@axebeard6085]

The problem was that the Democratic party failed to oppose oligarchy. The Republican party sold its soul to right-wing oligarchs. Seeing the benefits, the Democratic party sold its soul to left-wing oligarchs. There are a lot of people who know that the only real difference between free-market supply-side economics and interventionist suppy-side economics is in HOW the oligarchs benefit.

[@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis]

Biden had the most pro worker and pro consumer of any president in 100 years. The problem is trash like emma hates old people more than she cares about informing people, even though it's her fking job

[@BobBrophy78]

It's somewhat understandable why voters didn't turn out for Harris but it's mind blowing that Trump didn't lose any voters from 2020. Despite things like getting wrecked by Harris in the debate, Project 2025, and going from embarrassing event to embarrassing event like where he swayed back and forth to random music for an hour, or the one where he had a comic telling antisemitic jokes.

[@Ryuujinv01]

It's not too surprising when you realize he's the avatar of everything Republicans have begged for since Goldwater and in no way a departure from Republican politics.

[@jamestepera3356]

He certainly had folks stay home. So many social conservatives out there turned off by the legal issues. Sam is just telling one side of the story to make it seem like the Democrats should have one. 72% of voters said the country ia on the wrong track.....she was never going to win in this scenario.

[@adamm.6595]

You should get out more. Staying in your bubble is exactly why so many of your party can't understand why they lost. For everyone else, it is very easy to see why, mainly because of the type of lies and false news such as Project 2025. Hope this helps you.

[@richardarriaga6271]

​@@adamm.6595Trump admitted people involved in Project 2025. All the crazies are about to take office.

[@courtneyl.227]

​​​@@adamm.6595 Trump's whole campaign was a lie. And the FO phase is just beginning. He was a disaster the first time and people didn't learn. And yes project 25 is all real.

[@shelbyschwarz7901]

I do not think your reporting on the trans medication AP article is accurate. It is 926 people of 5 million patients ages 8-17 who they looked at (which is not the entire population of adolescents ages 8-17 in the United States, around 74 million).

[@Pearls_Have_Eyes]

democrats, whether intentional or not, disregarded their base and instead tried to aim for moderate republicans. it didnt work. ratchet effect in full display.

[@marisabenson1222]

If your opinion is correct and that Gaza was the reason they didn't vote and that contributed to the loss, what did they achieve for theur cause? They will be hit twice. First they will lose personally through domestic actions and geopolitically through trump's action toward Gaza.

[@pranays]

They never said it was the only reason. Maybe fix your comprehension skills.

[@OhNotThat]

They never said it was the sole reason but it shows the tremendous disrespect and inability to adequately respond to the concerns and issues with their own voters. Maybe instead of showing off Liz Cheney and hugging Republicans they should have been building bridges with Democratic voters and back Medicare4All? You know the policy Kamala had 5 years ago and abandoned immediately?

[@jaccl4539]

Your logic is off if neither will support they did the right thing and didn't vote for either - this either or foolishness is the brain rot.

[@grandgibbon2071]

@@pranays If you know about Gaza, and history you know not to vote Trump end of story.

[@macaron3141592653]

4:02 I'm definitely in this category, being Muslim. Most of my community refused to vote for Harris, and the few of us who did couldn't make a strong enough argument for the people upset over the genocide.

[@Natibe_]

We lost support due to several reasons. 1. Loss of confidence in creating a robust economy for the working class 2. Gaza warmongering by democrats 3. A sense that the democrats are for "RINOs" brought on by increased republican support for kamala 4. A high rate of abandonment of LGBT+ issues by democrats in swing states 5. Voter intimidation and sensationalism about the former 6. An apparent lack of urgency on capitol hill to progress voting reform, border reform, health insurance reform, police reform and anticorporate reform (not helped by biden's inability to apply pressure to the congressional houses and neoliberal ratfing) Traditional and fake independent media providing a sense of lack of urgency through sanewashing trump

[@EricDaMAJ]

Don’t say “Democrats lost the election” unless you’re a Trumper, RINO, Libertarian, Independent or a foreigner. The Majority Report cheered the Democratic Party for every bit of stupidity or covered for it.

[@michaelhenry8890]

This was Crystal clear long before November though. When you take away the right of the people to choose their candidate, you lose. Period. Kamala was the most unpopular political figure maybe ever. This was not difficult to foresee.

[@wildfire60]

It was Gaza.

[@radicalbyte]

How much of that was caused by the Republican assult on voter registrations and restriction of polling-station accessibility to Democrate's usual demographic.

[@SixStringHarmonies]

I don't want to wish ill on people. I want us all to prosper, excel. That said, anyone who stayed home _(isn't likely watching this video)_ truly made a mistake. We are moving into a political paradigm in the US, and globally, where class consciousness may be the only thing to save us. I mean that literally. Us and our children. I don't want to write a novel here but anyone who stayed home made a huge miscalculation, and I understand Republicans have made it very hard to vote in some places by design. Especially for working people with kids. In my 47 years, politics have not really affected our lives directly in major ways. That is changing. This elitist conservative oligarchy project which has been in the works since circa 1971, has undermined unions and labor. It has given us record inequality, and is coming for us in other almost incalculable ways. Least of which is the destruction of our breathable atmosphere. _It only rises to about 20,000 ft above sea level. That is not very much._ I fear elections like this are driving us down a path to a point where electoral politics cannot save us. Where organization and direct action are going to be necessary to maintain life as we know it.

[@jamescash887]

Biden/Harris had four years to run a populist agenda and didn’t do it. That’s on them.

[@dogcheeks]

How many decades of this before people realize that they WANT to lose? The only (single) decision they made during the entire campaign season that was both broadly visible, and an apparent attempt to win, was in choosing Tim Walz. We're talking about literal decades of this behavior and somehow people STILL talk about them like they're "failing". They're not failing. They're doing exactly what they mean to.

[@mattgraham296]

Remember these two thought it would be a blowout Harris win?

[@ernstraedecker6174]

Analysis is wrong. In the end Trump got 3 mln more votes than in 2020, and Harris 6.2 mln votes less than Biden. So there was an uptick in Rep vote.

[@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis]

No, there was an increase in population. They explained this.

[@swissarmyknight4306]

You have failed to account for the country's growing population and therefore the growing electorate. Trump got the same share of the electorate.

[@nakfoor1846]

The voters should still be blamed for recognizing the threat of Trump in 2020 but then going apathetic in 2024.

[@doctorbigsmiles]

You can't blame the brainwashed, when big big money has been working for decades to influence voters and warp reality. Kids today just want $300 shoes and $1000 hoodies.... and they'll be voting in 4 years, probably for The Rock, or whichever celebrity has been bought and put up for them to vote for. We are cooked, just like the oceans which have hit over 100 degrees 2 summers in a row. The ocean, literally reaching the temperature of a hot tub. Anyone who hasn't realized that the ecosystem is about to collapse on top of us, is just blind or being stubbornly optimistic. The turkey is in the oven, the eagle has landed, our goose is COOKED

[@cahill8883]

No the party should be blamed. Parties fail the voters, the voters do not fail parties.

[@squitsquat]

You are a good peasant

[@rainbowkrampus]

@@cahill8883 The issue is not voters failing the party, it is voters failing the people. Many immigrants, migrants and citizens will all face the dangerous and deadly consequences of some voters putting their feelings over the lives of fellow citizens. People who recognized the danger of Trump but stayed home anyway will have blood on their hands as a result of their selfishness. Though I don't imagine that many of them will ever have the self awareness to recognize this, given their propensity for putting their ego above critical thinking and a risk of discomfort.

[@abhishekpandey3244]

@@rainbowkrampus Enough with the fear mongering already! I don't understand what the left tries to achieve by this. They have been getting drubbed into the dirt across the globe for over a decade and still don't learn!

[@victordunavent9477]

as a progressive I stayed home because I couldn't tell the difference between dems and repubs

[@sumdude4281]

African/Asian American woman, white voters and white rural voters still matter, matter around the margins, some folks will not vote for an African/Asian American woman, like it or not and it matters, like it or not. Even urban/burban voters. Margins matter.

[@cowboyshawn9497]

Exactly... This is the real problem, A lot of white people, still will not vote for a woman of color no matter what, we have to get pass those types of issues, and hosts of these types of shows need to talk about these issues, because these are the underlying ones that really matters

[@jamescash887]

@@cowboyshawn9497what data do you have to support this?

[@cowboyshawn9497]

The data that all the maps are red during election night where mostly white people live, some people no matter what, will not vote for a black person, let alone a black woman... These people know she was the lesser of two evils, but that didn't matter to them, the negativety that the President Elect spew doesn't effect some people, because in their minds, he's not talking negative about them, so they overlook the stuff he says

[@scottsru7]

​@@jamescash887 Anecdotally in states like MI PA WI AZ margins were generally less than 200K votes. My godmother hates Trump but she def has some out of touch attitudes on race and wouldnt be surprised if she didnt vote at all. Many voters like that exist in these states. In Wisco black Mandela Barnes lost by a slim margin while white Tony Evers won reelection in 2022. Trump got more than Harris by 100K plus in PA while white Bob Casey lost by only 15K votes. Reps def made gains with minorities but theres a few exanples of white candidates outperforming or winning office in tight states while people of color did not.

[@Domino7860]

The current DEM leadership needs to GO!

[@chrisruthford4492]

She lost because the last 4 years have been a poop show, a total and complete failure. She is not only complicit in that failure, she was ready to double down on those disastrous policies.

[@redrick8900]

I can't imagine how ignorant you have to be to actually believe that. The Biden presidency is the most successful of your lifetime.

[@Richard-sy1ej]

Yet they passed more policies to restore American jobs, invest in American jobs, American infrastructure, and the well-being of every day Americans that the past 3 Republican presidents combined. Trump is a fake populist who only cares about two things: himself, and his bank account. That's it. America is in for another four years of decline like his previous term.

[@Lanirderosa-d7m]

45 was crazy but 47 is a madman I think we're f'd this time

[@TroyJScott]

Nah. Things are gonna be fun. Not like the last 4 years that felt like 14 years.

[@richardfinlayson1524]

im not a yank but im thinking Gaza may have been a big issue, the timing was not good and Biden seemed to be half asleep, his lack of a response was a big mistake in my opinion..... that should not have been allowed to happen....

[@abhishekpandey3244]

nope, it wasn't, I have data on almost everyone who uses google's services(data scientist at KZbin), maybe if the elections were dependent on 1 or 2 electoral votes it may have made a difference but other than that, nah!

[@Alan-yd7jh]

Thank u .. this is exactly what we need to be hearing. We need a new party. We need our own party.

[@krishereagain]

Sam & Emma: Please talk about the ABCDEs of the looming crises the US faces: Authoritarian rule by tech billionaires driven by the TESCREALism. BRICS competition and de-dollarization. Climate change catastrophies. Dismantling and reallocation of "the people's" assets; e.g. USPS, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. Economic crash worse than 2007-2008.

[@edwardmeer95]

It could also be a bit of, we have this in the bag. So why go out and vote. All I heard for a few weeks was how sane minded republicans were voting for Harris. I was calming my nerves. But it looked like Harris had it in the bag.

[@kellyligman8678]

Did they stay home? Or were their votes suppressed?

[@visarr]

Or were there fake votes in 2020?

[@RodmanTackleAdvisor]

Really? Not a single challenge was filed in any county. Not one. That's never happened before. Also, not one democrat contested his certification. First time in 35 years. He just beat her clean. She was an awful candidate.

[@jamescash887]

Proof please

[@visarr]

The cemeteries were closed.

[@RodmanTackleAdvisor]

@@kellyligman8678 The math: 18 million votes "missing". A. 1/5 of black men voted for Trump. The other 4/5 didn't vote. That's a fact in evidence. There's 4 million. Now it's 14 million. B. Latinos as a whole went for Trump in a 20 point swing. There's 7 million votes. 7m to go. C. College students. Trump dominated the college male vote. He got 40 percent of the white female college vote. Up 33%. He got roughly 42 percent of the total female college vote. Up almost 15 points and 4O%. Add the uncommitted movement and the pro Gaza groups who sat out. There's your other 7 million and then some. But wait, there's more!!!! Over 6 million voters from 2020 were removed this election. 2 reasons. They died/were already deceased in 20 and unqualified to vote. 97% voted Biden. Several districts in 2020, mostly in PA, GA and MI reported more votes than voters registered. So, 18 million votes didn't "vanish". Roughly 8 million did. By that math, that means there were roughly 2 million votes in 2020 that didn't technically exist because 6 million of them were disqualified or removed.

[@JamesJohnson-dz1gj]

From my perspective, I didn’t like the way the Dems handled the nomination. I complained about it up till like a month before the elections, and frankly voting for Kamala felt like a capitulation. Biden was elected with a mandate and he did nothing with it till he was bullied off the ticket. I don’t like how the Democratic Party handles its business internally. We complain about access media all the time, but we keep our mouths shut about access politicians cause we’re afraid of our own party losing ground if we expose the rot on OUR side.

[@jebbush6657]

Biden was elected by like 20k votes off 80% exit polls saying they didn't like Biden but didn't like trump more I don't think anyone who's ever held office of POTUS has ever entered the office with less of a "mandate" lmfao.

[@RodmanTackleAdvisor]

And look at what happened. They're leaderless now. No youth. It's over

[@grandgibbon2071]

So you just have no idea what Biden did during his 4 years then. Cause it was a lot.

[@cowboyshawn9497]

Let's be real... Ya'll have to start talking truth, some people are not voting for a black woman, no matter what.... Please be honest, Bernie always talk about classism, but RACE IS A BIG factor... And being female and of color is a tremendous factor

[@WTaylor-b5y]

Horseshit. Tulsi would have won.

[@everythingisterrible8862]

Absolutely it could have had an effect, but the polling on Biden was ABSOLUTELY DIRE man. Harris lost by 1%? Biden was projected to lose by FOUR. If she was allowed to talk like Bernie and the media also didn't stuff a knife in her back, I think she would have won. Heck, even if she was allowed to be herself on TV and didn't have to act like a robot terrified of going off script would have made more people like her, as a person... People don't live in the real world, we live in an abstraction of it built up in our heads. The media we input decides a lot of what we think and feel: the primary divide on people's opinions is in that. Boomers and Gen-X live inside the world of tv, millennials and younger live inside the world of the internet. Honestly tho, the strong sexists and racists aren't voting democrat in the first place. ... though I do always wonder if a Ben Carson or fellow pokemaster Herman Cain could have been allowed to be their candidate. Cain did the whole swordfish schtick to not offend the insecurities of his base. ("Why, I'm just a harmless clown fellas!") While Carson's voice was like a cult leader's. I really only think they'd have a shot if Mitt Romney types were their only competition... but even that is a bit surprising. People are weird and complicated. .... man I *really* liked Herman Cain. As a parasocial entertainer on the TV. His policies were the same as the others...

[@transom2]

Barack Obama was elected TWICE. He was Black. Kamala like Hillary was a bad candidate.

[@MrPickledede]

You are right! The majority of black females tend to support much more support for radical left policies than most other voting blocks.....if black women were more conservative or even centrist like Obama was, they would get votes

[@grandgibbon2071]

@@MrPickledede Kamala got 92% of the black vote. The issue was not black women voting for dems. They always show up for the dems.

[@galemartin9155]

Yeah I hate to disappoint you all on the left. My vote had nothing to do with ideology. I voted for Kamala Harris out of a need to survive. Who's going to help the Palestinians now? I don't know about you all but I'm a little busy trying not to die in this country during the next 4 years. So the Palestinians are on their own. You might even say I'm "uncommitted" to their cause.

[@jamestepera3356]

You will certainly dissapoint the Left. I suspect your comment is heresy.

[@Yesunfortunately-r1x]

I'm pretty sure Palestinians have been on their own for the entire war in Gaza

[@kev792]

@@galemartin9155 this is how most Americans felt, even though it’s harsh. People will always place their values and needs over those halfway around the world. And people on the left miscalculated into thinking Gaza is what cost the election. It didn’t.

[@kev792]

@@Yesunfortunately-r1x basically. They’re screwed. So many different parties play a hand in this all for different reasons. Hamas, Israel, the US and the global community.

[@TwoForFlinchin1]

​@@kev792 crazy how it's a false dichotomy and the tools of fascism abroad always come back home.

[@markg3169]

Culturally democrats sound demented when they say “only 900 kids received puberty blockers”. Guys that’s like saying on 900 kids were R-ed or abused. You’re not supposed to downplay negative actions on children. Get a grip.

[@WhatsUp20201]

You sound like the closested gay man who screams homophobia so that we all don't "suspect" him. If you think what you said even needs to be vocalized not only are you either dense or disingenuous, but I'd question what you get into in your free time. Children probably aren't safe around you

[@thenotsodiscretewolf2098]

so puberty blockers have been used since the 1980s for Precocious puberty but why would the rightoids know that? its not like foxs will tell you what meds are used for just you need to fear them.

[@Milo-wl2if]

Would people vote for a party offering 1. No more taxpayer money for an advanced economy like Israel. 2. More investment in education, healthcare and law enforcement. 3. Protections for the rights of all Americans. 4. Controlled immigration, including rapid processing of asylum claims for irregular entry, to fill labour gaps.