Democrats Gamble With Their Nevada Gerrymander | FiveThirtyEight

Nevada could have played it safe during the most recent redistricting process. But this is the home of Las Vegas, baby! So instead, by attempting to give two congressional Democrats a more favorable district, Nevada Democrats may have put all three of their current seats at risk.
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[@rolandserna7805]

Honestly, this has to be the fairest unfair map I've seen so far

[@BS-vx8dg]

Keep looking. This is interesting, but hardly egregious.

[@rolandserna7805]

@@BS-vx8dg I mean, it’s meant for Democrats to win 3 seats, but it would still be possible for Republicans to win all 4 seats in a good year with good candidates.

[@BS-vx8dg]

@@rolandserna7805 Yeah, I know. And yet you say it is the most unfair map you've seen. Have you seen any others? On what basis do you judge these things?

[@rolandserna7805]

@@BS-vx8dg I said it’s the fairest out the most most unfair maps I’ve seen

[@BS-vx8dg]

@@rolandserna7805 Ahh, I see. I misread your comment. I must 1) apologize, and 2) state that I agree with you entirely.

[@Laughhouse2go]

It seems the Democratic gerrymander is geared toward a scenario of a very tight midterm, one where that extra seat could make the difference between a fragile and not as fragile majority, or even the majority if it really comes down to the wire. The scenario where Republicans pick up a seat in Nevada is one where they have already secured the House regardless of how Nevada was sliced and diced.

[@theuglykwan]

That is true but NV is not a safe blue state. Them doing this brings in more republican money that could undo their transition to safe blue and all the work that Harry Reid put in.

[@elliot04877]

Yeah but that ingores the fact that Nevada is trending red. It's not unlikely that those lean D seats could very well be lean R in the future.

[@foop2954]

@@elliot04877 It's not really trending red. It voted twice for Bush and just happened to go for Obama more than Biden. It's a consistently lean D state.

[@mayrayamarte6552]

Ey

[@Megacooltommydee]

Looks like this exact scenario might end up being decisive for the House as a whole. All three seats held for the Democrats, and by rather thin margins too. It was that close to breaking but the gerrymander actually held up.

[@redwolfexr]

Given that I live in a D+28 map drawn by Texas Republicans... I laugh at this even being called a "Gerrymander."

[@bobbygriffith9890]

As someone who was in a Texas R+15 district designed to under-represent voters in Austin 200+ miles from me, but just got reassigned to a R+20 district..... Compared to the Texas Lege the Nevada gerrymandering looks quaint. Nevada gerrymandering also has a potential for more competitive districts and that's a good thing. Texas worked against that possibility.

[@Megacooltommydee]

It looks like Nevada Democrats' big gamble paid off big time. All three Las Vegas-area seats stayed blue, and by rather slim margins too. This may actually end up deciding control of the House, as under the old map, Democrats would have lost the two competitive suburban districts while being confined to the downtown district. Edit: It didn't. But it helped them narrow McCarthy's slim majority by one or two.

[@VictorAntares]

I love Nathaniel's nonchalant use of props. His delivery with the silly props and costumes is wonderful

[@Kaiyou1691]

I feel sorry for the barrage of ads about to flood Nevada

[@ichifish]

Lol. Maybe the media companies had a hand in writing the map?

[@Megacooltommydee]

At least they'd only have to focus on one media market.

[@bmichel2002]

Thank you, we appreciate it. Especially living just outside of Reno.

[@bc64100]

already happen i told multiple group keep their damn democrat signs out of my yard

[@bmichel2002]

@@bc64100 were you in incline Village?

[@Jamandabop]

Looks like it worked

[@DreamFreeFPV]

I get why this is interesting but the fact that talking about redistricting like it's sport is fucked... gerrymandering is a somewhat solved problem in other countries. Get an independent districting commission, Enforce shortest split line method, Implement Preferential voting and proportional representation measures. I lean blue but i want a fair system above all else.

[@___.51]

This guy's gotta make content for the content mill, gotta get that adsense yaknow

[@less_likely]

That’s my reaction to this series. It’s interesting but also icky in the way it unquestioningly talks about how gerrymandering is being done. I’d prefer larger multi-seat districts. A state like Nevada would have 4 at-large reps, and each voter can select up to 4 candidates they support, top 4 vote getters are the representatives. Could also work with multi-candidate ranked choice, so you select your order and each representative position is selected by first over 50% in an instant runoff, then do it again for the 2nd position and so on.

[@reedermh]

@@less_likely Except in the US the courts have ruled "one person, one vote". So a multi-seat district is impossible barring a change to the Constitution (good luck with that).

[@less_likely]

@@reedermh it’s a law, not constitutional. Hawaii and New Mexico had multi member districts until 1967.

[@hs5312]

I would prefer political parties be illegal and have a jungle primary system like Louisiana uses

[@starryrz9783]

Do a video on New Mexico please. Similar to Nevada the democrats really took a risk there sacrificing the safe blue seat to try to win all three.

[@lucaskang548]

Nah, Herrell won’t be beaten. They totally fucked Teresa Leger Fernandez.

[@couldbeanybody2508]

@Alex Gaming ROBLOX it depends if there is a huge red wave

[@markwest3485]

Very similar answer to Nevada, not that big a gamble.

[@siIverspawn]

Why doesn't this (i.e., all-or-nothing maps) happen more often? This is the first time I've heard about it, and there should be an incentive to take risks with every map. Are the people who draw them just risk-averse, usually?

[@theuglykwan]

There is a history to this. In the past they sometimes went balls to the wall doing this and a few % shift in the popular vote led to them losing 30% or more of their seats. Sometimes it worked out but other times it was disastrous. Republicans saw what happened last decade when populations moved plus there was a blue wave and they loss a bunch of seats. So they were shoring up seats more to limit dem gains even in a wave year. We've seen competitive seats halve this cycle. That's not really good for democracy. Where is the incentive to take risks? Those tend to be the exception. eg. NH's republican governor is vetoing the new republican passed map as it creates a safe seat for each party. For decades the 2 seats have been drawn competitive and control switches. I think people there prefer that.

[@siIverspawn]

@@theuglykwan Ohh, interesting! Thanks. By "incentive" I just meant the existence of the tradeoff, i.e., you do in fact get more seats if you take risks; didn't mean "incentive to choose the risky side of the tradeoff". Strongly agree that having fewer competitive seats is bad.

[@ichifish]

Think of political parties as companies. They can get a guaranteed ROI with safe seats, or they can go the start up route and gamble. If they lose, they've not only lost seats, they've lost incumbency and their best employees. Once a rep has lost they often don't run again. Given that Nevada won't get another chance until 2031, this seems like a big gamble.

[@freya8128]

incumbency advantage means that if you lose a seat in a bad year, it can be more difficult to win it back in a neutral year- when you'd need it the most

[@BS-vx8dg]

@@theuglykwan Excellent analysis, ugly one.

[@TheCatLady65]

Two words: "Proportional Representation".

[@Dawthchling]

would need to be done at the federal level

[@theuglykwan]

Outwith the power of state legislatures for the US house. They could do it for state races but that probably requires state constitutional amendments in most states. They could introduce ranked choice voting or similar without that much trouble. That helps 3rd parties run without being accused of being spoilers. The 2 parties really don't have incentive to switch to PR. That breaks their single party dominations as most states are safe for one party. Even when it is a state that swings, the 2 parties are united against 3rd parties usually. The 2 parties get donations from rich donors to act as gatekeepers and enact what they want. More parties and more competitive elections endangers that.

[@epakai]

Impossible until we uncap the house.

[@Balibaliadashi]

Not going to happen under a two party stranglehold.

[@TheCatLady65]

@@Balibaliadashi Sad but true

[@Scoinsoffaterocks]

>3 competetive districts I see this as an absolute win ngl

[@alcarbo8613]

Democrat's basically drew a map that in the long term will be a Republican gerrymander, they literally deprived themselves of their only safe seat

[@tjwallis7948]

Dems drew this map before Biden tanked the Democrat party.

[@bird-war]

Yeah, Nevada is trending right ward so come 2026 or 2028 the Democrats will have egg on their faces

[@tropicalpenguin8446]

is this really 'gerrymandering' by making more seats competitive? I thought its only gerrymandering to secure seats or deny them to your opponent.

[@veri745]

Yes, because it's trying to get 3 out of 4 seats when you only get 2.05 seats worth of votes

[@Markd315]

This is still gerrymandering lol. They want to maximize the expected value of the seats from Nevada. Since they expect to lose in a lot of places anyway, losing in Nevada means that they're fucked nationally anyway. This allows them to win a congressional majority in a close national race. If the GOP sweeps Nevada, national democrats don't fucking care anyway because they already lost everywhere else.

[@tropicalpenguin8446]

​@@veri745 my understanding is that anything in 5 points as competitive. So before with the +22 seat, they had one guaranteed. which would mean 1 dem, 1 rep and 2 contested. Now it is 3 contested and 1 rep. I don't see that as a 'win' for democrats. Their maximum win (3) could happen, but their maximum lose (4) could also happen which makes this like not gerrymandering at all. Meanwhile they do not 'have' a seat anymore. Where is the 'advantage'? I don't see one.

[@veri745]

@@tropicalpenguin8446 maybe it isn't gerrymandered "well", but they've still chosen the voters and matched the boundaries to them, rather than the other way around

[@veri745]

@@tropicalpenguin8446 A core piece of gerrymandering is diluting your advantage in one area/district and spreading it out to win more total seats

[@SeaBassTian]

I think I'm addicted to Nathan's Gerrymander clips!

[@WylliamJudd]

Isn't this just another way of saying that this map is more fair?

[@definitelynotpaul9209]

Depends on how you define fair. If fair means the seats are more competitive, then certainly. If fair means they more accurately divide areas into regions that better reflect population groups...that's tougher to say. Regardless, when Democrats (or Republicans) engage in gerrymandering, I kinda doubt the thought process is about fairness, but more about "how can we make the map best for us?" And that's the interesting part imo.

[@richardg8651]

True but that wasn't the intent . And if they don't get at least two seats they will have screwed themselves and be unable to blame anyone but themselves . Not Fox, not trump , not nobody else .

[@WylliamJudd]

@@richardg8651 well of course politicians have to earn their votes in the first place, so they can't blame anyone else anyway, but the gerrymander is never the whole story.

[@notsoawesomeone]

"More fair" but still not fair

[@WylliamJudd]

@@notsoawesomeone why isn't it fair? How would a non-partisan map be drawn?

[@Phono-fun]

Nashville is one of the worst cases of gerrymandering

[@joespice785]

What about Maryland or Illinois? Those maps are so skewed its horrible.

[@coreyeverett5500]

Jim Cooper (D-TN) : "Change da world, my final message. Goodbye"

[@justinlokere]

Dummymander incoming

[@h.g.buddne]

America needs a new political System with multiple parties and power devided. The Swiss system would be a good model. The people have much more influence and can decide on just about everything.

[@zflawless1772]

What they should’ve done is put the bluest parts of reno into a blue district and more of rural Nevada in the red one, which would solidify all 3 democratic incumbents if done right.

[@charlesevanshughes3638]

I drew a map on DRA like that, and managed to make one R+30 district, and three D+15 districts. The issue is that it requires a narrow path from Reno to west Clark County, one that hugs the California border only a few hundred feet at times.

[@drifter2198]

And why tf would that be a good thing.

[@zflawless1772]

@@drifter2198 because more blue seats is good. but even if that wasn’t the case i’m just talking from a strategy standpoint from nevada democrats

[@drifter2198]

@@zflawless1772 As a Democrat point of view you might be happy about it but from a democracy point of view it's not. Gerrymandering hinders democracy. A political party shouldn't be able to draw up congressional maps because 9 times out of 10 it leads to an unfair advantage

[@TSGPhilipp]

Y'all talking about undermining Democracy like its a sport💀

[@lorenzogabutti8303]

Great analysis, Nathaniel!

[@bobbygriffith9890]

Yes it's an attempt at gerrymandering but the result is POTENTIALLY more competitive districts. ..... This potential gives Democrats and Republicans more incentive to vote and all candidates more incentive to appeal to all voters instead of just party primary voters. Possibly...

[@jeremiahblake3949]

For this upcoming election yes, but with the influx of Californians into the state, over the decade it'll probably pay off.

[@michaelbirkett4932]

@@jeremiahblake3949 depends who the Californians who are leaving are

[@jeremiahblake3949]

@@michaelbirkett4932 Yes and I'm not sure if anyone has compiled partisan statistics, however, most of the outflux is from the cities, not the rural areas if I recall right. And those cities tend to be 85%+ left leaning.

[@joshschipper1396]

@@jeremiahblake3949 I've heard though that Californians leaving are mostly GOP, republicans unhappy with living in liberal cities are leaving to areas they believe to be more conservative and in-line with their beliefs. Can't quite say for Nevada but have definitely heard from TX, TN and ID.

[@jeremiahblake3949]

@@joshschipper1396 I'm not as familiar with Californian refugees, however most of the northerners moving into the south are Democrats

[@fernbedek6302]

Surely more competitive seats are good for democracy?

[@mooseears9849]

I support Nevada's map. It is not biased towards Democrats, but biased towards competitive districts (1 leans Republican, 1 leans Democrat, 2 are highly competitive). It encourages people to vote, and is proportional to Nevada's partisan makeup. Contrast that with the sh*tty district map of Utah to the east

[@davidstorrs]

Isn't "this map is only very slightly tilted" another way of saying "this map is quite fair"? Why is this being called a gerrymander when it's making the map more fair?

[@g.k.chesterton5867]

Indeed

[@viktoryanokovich3699]

This good map honestly. It’s Good map for the gop and democrats. Extremely competitive

[@jesse-oj9it]

Nevada will probably flip red most likely

[@karlstrauss2330]

Gonna be fantastic! #MakeNevadaRedAgain

[@diamond_839]

I dont understand why it matters what race percentage a district has

[@fos1451]

Because each race favors one party a lot more than the other

[@coreyeverett5500]

Look up gerrymandering. The party in power can strategically slice up a state to unfairly give themselves more representatives. A great example is Tennessee, who cut Jim Cooper's district into three Republican districts bringing their total number of districts from 2 Democrat, 7 Republican to 1 and 8. That's why it matters.

[@bobbygriffith9890]

STILL BETTER THAN TEXAS As someone who was in a Texas R+15 district designed to under-represent voters in Austin 200+ miles from me, but just got reassigned to a R+20 district..... Compared to the Texas Lege the Nevada gerrymandering looks quaint. Nevada gerrymandering also has a potential for more competitive districts and that's a good thing. Texas worked against that possibility.

[@Jilktube]

Wish you covered the gop alt map.

[@cardenfoy]

Thats why districting and redistricting is stupid. Use proportional representation so the shape and size of districts dont matter anymore.

[@lucaskang548]

Nobody will be shocked if all 3 of those seats fell to Republican hands in November. Also RIP to Titus’ Vegas district. No congressperson should ever be fucked over because of a bad map.

[@coreyeverett5500]

No congressperson should feel safe in their seat. I think NV is districted pretty fairly and hope NH is redistricted with two competitive districts in that same manner. Safe blue/red seats encourage complacency and corruption, NV's map seems to discourage that.

[@blazingbattlehawk9626]

A good district map leaves both parties unhappy

[@user-yp8hc8gz2x]

The map is more competitive. Isn't that a good thing?

[@A__KUMARSUJAY]

It would be interesting.

[@VictorAntares]

I think one of the voting bills in congress would make non-partisan redistricting commissions a regular thing nation wide. But you can guess which party doesn't want that to pass...

[@pedanticchicken2117]

It legally can't pass. The constitution ensures that the states have the right to determine congressional districts

[@VictorAntares]

@@pedanticchicken2117 really.. does 538 have probabilities for passing constitutional amendments? ...*sigh*

[@pedanticchicken2117]

@@VictorAntares You really don't know how government works do you

[@ethancooke593]

@@pedanticchicken2117 Are you referring to Article I Section 4? "The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of choosing Senators." If this is what you are referring to, how do you explain the exception made for Congress to "at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations"? It seems to indicate, to me, that nationwide redistricting commissions for federal offices would indeed be constitutional.

[@ThomasBomb45]

@@pedanticchicken2117 looking forward to your response to the above quotation from the Constitution

[@aidensaesthetics]

i don't get how it went from r+1, r+5, and d+22 to d+5, d+2, and d+4 like what happened to the 9 extra percent dems should have.. the math doesn't add up

[@jefflistman4178]

Think of it in terms of margin, with Republican lean being a negative number to make the math easier -16 + -1 + -5 + 22 = -13 + 4 + 2 + 5, with some rounding error.

[@johnyoung1761]

AA, there are four districts. Are you omitting a change to the northern district?

[@macro8236]

Terrible gamble especially since neveda has been trending to the right on the presidential level for almost a decade now

[@IkeOkerekeNews]

No it hasen't.

[@tylerdaniel8956]

@@IkeOkerekeNews It literally moved to the right in 2012, 2016, and 2020. It voted to the right of the country in 2020 after not doing so since 2004. How is that not moving right over the last decade?

[@bonghunezhou5051]

Titus should hold her current seat, but the outlying 3 & 4 (she actually represented an earlier version of 3 from 2007-2011) may be more iffy if Democrats face a strong enough headwind.

[@altaccoubt8566]

Late but gambling in nevada is perfectly normal

[@khonzi4266]

I live in CD 1 near downtown, and this is the first time I can remember in 30 years where we actually have a chance to take it back! Yippee! Dumb move, Dems!!!

[@dardade3277]

So, isn't this just a fair district map then?

[@soledieairvideos5974]

Somehow I’m more confused

[@loganstrait7503]

Gerrymandering should bring mandatory jail time.

[@rnelson299]

Lol why is nobody screaming racism on Nevada’s gerrymander?

[@tissohann8457]

because it is more competative and encoruges voters to ingage in democracy? wheras republican gerrymandaring tend to focus on keeping all the minorities in one district so that they dont have as much voting power as white conservatives

[@am8115]

Can you do a video on what if california was gerrymandered?

[@PlaystationMasterPS3]

Lol they don't need to But I could imaging if a party to the left of the Democrats emerges as a serious threat in Cali they could try and dilute their votebase so they can't win any seats.

[@am8115]

@@PlaystationMasterPS3 California could swing the houses reps all by itself

[@KingSB]

Hey make a video detailing all the heavy gerrymandering by both the parties.

[@joshuataylor3550]

It's so weird this is real/legal.

[@rogerxiao4458]

hi Nathaniel

[@TurboKingCandy]

Damn you were fast

[@lordmike9384]

lets go brandon!

[@110100111000]

Euphemisms. RINOs duck behind em, all the time.

[@GardeningwithTill]

Nathaniel is cute!

[@anthonywatts2033]

While " high risk high reward" it's also democratic!

[@icarusunited]

Wow, it wasn't biased.

[@johnberk9315]

they did something similar in New Mexico, eliminating the 1 Republican seat leaving 2 competitve and 1 lean blue seat. I feel like that made more sense when Biden's approval rating was positive and now it looks like they fucked up. Although over the course of the decade it could pay off who knows.

[@shawnsg]

One upside is that is may force fewer radical candidates. They can't just try and out crazy the other candidates in their party like what happens in "safe" districts since they actually have to compete across the aisle.

[@coreyeverett5500]

I'm progressive and I personally think there should be more highly-competitive districts nationwide. The people's vote should never be guaranteed!

[@johnberk9315]

@@coreyeverett5500 I agree with this as a matter of principle, just saying tactically it is risky when every seat counts in trying to keep control of the House.

[@coreyeverett5500]

@@johnberk9315 Oh definitely. I think NM specifically designed their districts around the idea of a very close call. As in, if their slightly-D leaning districts fall to Republicans, there won't be a majority anyway.

[@achaeanmapping4408]

Ngl seems quite high risk low reward

[@graygrumbler4253]

It would be interesting to see your thoughts on Maryland's gerrymandering.

[@joespice785]

Lmao, like he would actually criticize it. I'm willing to be he loves the gerrymander.

[@kaseyl6711]

I think many rural voters see no point in voting now. Reno and Vegas basically own the state and whatever they want is what the whole state gets. I hope this incentivizes them to vote 😭

[@jamiepaulzine4648]

Hopefully Republicans get all the seats 😁😁

[@Bum_Hip]

Standard Dem playbook. They fight fire with candy.

[@markwest3485]

The gamble is not so great. In a Republican wave they will still hold those three seats by 2-3 points each. Dem wave 10 points, normal election 6-8.

[@DougieG7130]

That also assumes that Nevada stay a lean Dem state it could also trend 1-3 points right on the presidental level would could make the Dem leads narrower like 3-5 points and Republicans would likely Nevadas 3rd making it 2-2

[@tjwallis7948]

They drew the districts before Biden tanked the democrat party

[@Nobody-xe9fc]

Who's here after MD's map got struck down?

[@libelldrian173]

Me laughing in European.

[@A__KUMARSUJAY]

District 03 is in a great striking zone for the GOP. They are going to win District 02 and 03

[@liamgartlan5961]

Why not just draw districts accurate to the population????? Oh cause then that would make sense mb mb

[@devy2]

I don't understand why they drew it such that the rural northern district has *less* Republican lean than before. Like, that's where you're supposed to put Republican votes in order to be wasted.

[@Megacooltommydee]

I think what happened is that because of growth in Reno, less of the ruby red parts in the north could be attached to it.

[@devy2]

@@Megacooltommydee then put reno in one of the vegas districts lmao

[@Megacooltommydee]

@@devy2 So you'd then have one of the districts snake across the California border to connect Reno and part of Las Vegas? That's honestly what they could have done if they were gonna gerrymander the state anyway.

[@timmyturner327]

@@devy2 the votes didn't exist for that in the legislature. Reno and Las Vegas may be in the same state, but they are worlds apart, which breeds parochialism. I doubt Reno Democrats would have voted for that.

[@devy2]

@@timmyturner327 Big perhaps.

[@jjbode1]

I liked the video but not the forecast, albeit conditional.

[@ckq]

Bruh politics is so dumb

[@tissohann8457]

you mean politics as a whole or american politics?

[@therealallpro]

Seems like even if you lose a seat it would be to a likely moderate Republican...that has advantages too.

[@paulsommerhalder9049]

I'm so glad California's legislature isn't the only one making poor decisions.

[@pcarnold9]

How the f could someone vote democrat? I mean to be worse than republicans is such an accomplishment

[@isairodriguez2275]

Why does he talk about Texas' gerrymander instead of idk Illinois or New York, or California

[@calebweldon8102]

Maybe because Texas is more impactful since gop have gerrymandered themselves an advantage

[@isairodriguez2275]

@@calebweldon8102 so has these other states. And I would argue they gerrymander equal to or more than Texas. Look at Illinois!

[@fos1451]

@@isairodriguez2275 California is drawn by independent commission, New York and Illinois has less influence on the house than Texas, it makes sense to talk about Texas more than the other two if you have to choose one as an example of bad gerrymandering

[@isairodriguez2275]

@@fos1451 Yes, they have less influence, but Texas gives a closer representation for democrats than Illinois or New York does for Republicans. 34% of Texas' representatives sent to congress will be Democrat, since they did win 46% of the vote in 2020. While Illinois 17% percent will be Republican even though they won 40% of the vote in 2020. Thats a 23% difference. Same with New York, only 15% of the representatives will be Republican while 38% voted Republican in 2020. Thats a another 23% difference. I just want to point out that FiveThirtyEight is biased for the left. So nobody should feel like they a neutral source of information.

[@joespice785]

So you condemn Texas but not New York?

[@theEvilLord90]

No NewYork is doing what Texas did in 2010 so

[@joespice785]

@@theEvilLord90 Neither of them are ok, but condemning one and not the other is a clear bias.

[@MikeIzzle_]

For real, New York is so much worse too. Democrats get a 34% representation in Texas but republicans only get a 15% representation in NY

[@fivethirtyeight]

We made an entire video about New York’s gerrymander.

[@dragonflarefrog1424]

Respond to the fact they made a video about New York coward!

[@StvBnsn]

Efficiency gap goes down, and these clowns at Five Thirty Eight are criticizing it? Producing dumb podcasts with Galen asking inane questions and now making dumb videos where the efficiency gap is actually going down (something we think is good normally) but saying it's somehow bad?

[@LarryLopez91]

If they're gambling with their gerrymander, is it actually a gerrymander??

[@johnyoung1761]

The popular term for being overly ambitious with a gerrymander is "dummymandering." All districts are drawn with purposes in mind, whether they're shaped like dragons or not.

[@user-vg8td7qd8z]

I like how on the Texas video, you attacked the gerrymandering and explained how bad it is, but in this video you're acting like it's a good normal thing

[@pcpolice2314]

go watch fox news then

[@theuglykwan]

I didn't get that from the video. I got that this was an idiotic gamble that they will regret.

[@notsoawesomeone]

Where was it treated like a good normal thing?? Nowhere. Delusional.

[@jamiepaulzine4648]

@@pcpolice2314 a real news network u mean

[@shawnsg]

Because while it is a gamble, as the theme of the video highlights, to benefit Democrats it still gives Republicans a fighting chance. The video also points out how it negatively affects Latino voices. Texas and Republicans are worse because their goal has been to squash and dilute as much opposition as possible with the effect of creating fewer and fewer competitive districts. Competition is healthy. Lack of competition pushes parties further to their extreme since there's no incentive to appeal to more moderate voters on both sides of the aisle.

[@Semelem]

1:19 this is what will likely happen until at least 2026, 2028 if a democrat miraculously wins in 2024

[@briand5379]

That's not considered gerrymandering, that's called drawing the map the way it's supposed to be drawn. Democrats are taking a gamble in states where they do this because if Republicans gerrymander the heck out of the lines like they did in Texas and Florida, Democrats risk losing seats to moderate Republicans while Republicans steal seats in heavily gerrymandered areas. I feel bad for Dina Titus now she's going to have to work for a living instead of living on easy street like my Rep does.

[@generalsifr2995]

I feel you on that. I saw a black woman whining about Wisconsin because she was no longer going to be living on easy street but now her wish came back true when the Supreme court struck down 7 black districts. People like her love to throw red meat at black community and her kind have no intention whatsoever to talk about real issue in black community. So when she realized that she is going to talk about really issue she start to whine about being gerrymandered. Gerrymandering exist because of people who want to secure their districts at the expense of the rest and outright lies. Same people who turn around and throw red meats at people that if it was not because of Gerrymandering we would have pass this and that are the problems. I like Nevada map and New Mexico maps. If Democrats win those seats it mean those people take their job seriously and if they lose they do not deserve to be in congress in first place. I am in Virginia where a dude run on Bernie Sanders platform and won in red state house districts. How did Biden won Florida districts and the woman over there lost her congressional seat? It mean those did not like you and it have nothing to do with crazy shit AOC said about defunding the police. That did not stop DNC blame games. So Gerrymandering is a less issue. Corporates money is the issue.

[@03.achyuthans39]

They are picking and choosing who votes for them. It is gerrymandering. Just cause one party does it worse, doesn't mean its done right

[@billyaepicgamer8642]

@@03.achyuthans39 Not to mention, mathematically, it's waaaay harder for Democrats to gerrymander due to where Dem voters tend to be.

[@PlaystationMasterPS3]

Moderate Republicans no longer exist