Demonstration of CED Videodisc

[@RoninRAB]

There's something about failed media formats that makes them seem more futuristic than what we actually have now: less "the world of tomorrow" and more "a reality that couldn't be." The auto-loading caddy system is pretty cool too. There's something mysterious about not being able to see the disc. I'm a sucker for complex loading mechanisms... until they break.

[@michaelcharach]

Back in the 90s I had a SVHS machine that had tray loading.

[@IVR02]

I like your use of an era-appropriate RCA TV. Really completes the whole setup.

[@ketonicdude]

Not only is it era-appropriate, it was actually designed by RCA to be used with their videodisc player as the remote can control both the TV and the Player.

[@RYTHEmmACHINE]

Until very recently, didn’t know this format existed! Very neat collection! Thanks for the demo. 😁👍🏽

[@thedarksideoftheforce6658]

It didn't last long back then because it had the worst picture quality. It's analog and reads the disc like a record.

[@toddlindsay8846]

@@thedarksideoftheforce6658that what’s it is like. It’s a video record.

[@ojslush]

Same here until I bought ghost busters today

[@hrpickinstuff]

I've never seen these actually work that smoothly on the first try like that. To me that was more impressive than your Video disc collection.

[@macreuben]

Wow I had never seen this format an I'm 35 this is crazy. The way it gets injected an ejected is so amazing. Thanks for uploading this for us to see!

[@jimmybuffet4970]

This would’ve changed everything forever if it had been released when it was developed in the 60s

[@KillThad]

Beautiful TV to match, I gotta say.

[@adamc2451]

I started laughing from amazement when I saw the collection. IMPRESSIVE WORK MY DUDE

[@paulcarver5940]

That's amazing. Thank you for the demo. I'm 53 but this is new to me! I want one.

[@Mrcometo]

Wow! You have a real good collection!

[@danieldaniels7571]

Nice demo. I have an SGT-200 and a substantial collection of discs. A good clean disc that doesn’t skip looks notably better than VHS, but doesn’t touch LaserDisc

[@tac6044]

Why would you collect such a thing?

[@danieldaniels7571]

@@tac6044 I enjoy collecting and watching video media. I also have many things on CED which are either exclusive to the format or difficult to find on any format. Why wouldn’t I?

[@TaijanDean]

@@tac6044 I got my first one a couple of days ago, purely because it’s the most ridiculous format I have ever seen. Yes, I have a lot of films on DVD, Blu-Ray and even VHS, but the sheer novelty value of using a CED is a whole other experience.

[@WastedTalent-]

When I was a kid back in the late 80's, I visited family in Texas and they had one of these. I remember having to put the case back in to flip the disc halfway through the movie.

[@jboody79]

Now this brings me back to growing up and watching movies. The good ol 80's!

[@PhysicalMediaGuy64]

Awesome video man! It makes me want to collect movies on CED. I might not have a CED player, but I might get one eventually if it works on my end! Great video and keep up the great work! :)

[@ohger1]

I have a couple of machines kicking around because I sold and repaired them when they were new, but the biggest problem is that the stylus/cartridges are fussy and are pretty much unobtainable these days.

[@gurgy3]

Wish I had a room setup like that, throw in an original NES system. I could sit in there for hours and pretend like I’m back in the 80’s and the whole last thirty years never happened. Aahhh, to dream

[@lorenmorgan1931]

Let me bring over the hair metal cassettes and I'll join your party. :)

[@pancudowny]

I briefly got into the CED collecting hobby... but you took it to a level I didn't think possible. How did you obtain all that? Especially the "See The Music" box? I thought no-one would have one of those these days!

[@eliaslopez7159]

This is exactly what i wanted to see, thank you.

[@jgcolombo]

Very good picture quality! Great collection

[@M.I.R-Live]

Шикарная коллекция дисков!

[@jjunin_ONE]

Hi good morning! What a great picture capacitance vinyl videos have. To think that in Argentina we have not had them, I estimate that in almost no part of the world. Still for some it was a tremendous failure due to the repeated furrow jumps ... the image is excellent in terms of chroma saturation, they have an image that rests the vision with exact colors (watercolor type) very cinematographic type. Can they still be found on the used market? I have also been able to observe the upper image of the Oriental VHD system. But unfortunately the records are all in Japanese, too bad they only made it for their market. I think that with an extension to 720p HD they would have been widely accepted today, because from what I have seen so far the image has a high resolution with respect to the quality of the chroma. Greetings and Blessings from Buenos Aires, Argentina.

[@huskerfan4life]

Makes me glad I started collecting laserdiscs

[@ms_enj]

I’ve almost got everything together to assemble a 5 way shootout. VHS vs Beta vs CED vs VHD vs Laserdisc. I also have a Telefunken TeD player, but it’s missing a stylus, and there were no Hollywood movies ever released on that format, which kind of excludes it.

[@Unlimited2100]

Wow! Thank you for demonstration! 😉

[@majfauxpas]

Damn, the audio is infinitely better than tape

[@gorgonaheavymetal4330]

i think thats because it's an actual Vinyl record.

[@ronny332]

The combination of TV set and player on set looks awesome. A share none of the devices ever made the way to Europe.

[@Huanchee]

I’d be scared to play any of those since they do have a limited number of times they could be played due to the medium. Is it even possible to still find needles for that thing as well?

[@linusw]

Im pretty sure it is unplayable after 500 plays of a disc

[@danielj.glowny4108]

@@linusw Like LPs with a little care it would last beyond your life time.

[@Roy_1]

@@danielj.glowny4108 At which point your family will sell it on Ebay or worse...a garbage sale.

[@ohger1]

@@linusw The discs could be played many thousands of times without issues. The cartridges however are impossible to find, and even though many could last for years, we had some actually fail during warranty.

[@targetrender9529]

Nice collection. I didn’t know ced’s had a chapter search feature like laser disc or dvd.

[@johndododoe1411]

Probably got it from LPs.

[@Raptor50aus]

Interesting format that caused RCA to go bankrupt. Amazing collection.

[@antoniomastroianni2706]

I live in Italy, my father bought several of these discs in a cheap and used market. It took a lot to realize what these discs were, as I believed they were laserdiscs, then I discovered they were something different. I think that Ced players were not available in our country, what a pity!

[@spazzman90]

Nice demo. Love how you can clearly see the scanlines. My dad bought a little later version of this tv with the square corner picture tube. From when it was new, biggest pile. Had this issue where it would flip inputs rapidly, but it would only do it once in a while usually at inopportune times. I begged him to get the Sony at the time. Really should have just put it out of its misery.

[@fieldingbaby2671]

Oh! That's how those worked! My buddy showed me a disc he inherited (No player). I could only imagine how they worked as compared to Laserdiscs.

[@AliAmire-b6s]

Throw back RCA plastic wood panle TVs. I remember having 1 all through my childhood in the 90s

[@stephenwilliams5201]

Verry easy tec. My teenage daughter. Kept trying to load two disc at time. Used to get my movies surplus from fair radio in Lima Ohio. (They have grown past that through) was a good system kept off the expensive cable vision. Tks kv4li

[@Watcher3223]

The disc banding is more like chapters on a LaserDisc. Too bad you couldn't demonstrate it on this video. Unfortunately, not too many CED titles had that and, of course, a 400 series player was required to use such a feature. I know some of my newer movies from Paramount Home Video had disc banding, such as my copies of "Raiders of the Lost Ark," "Staying Alive," and "Flashdance". Some music video titles also had it, such as my copy of "Duran Duran."

[@leeharvey8334]

Great video thanx Josh! Im hear in London, England, i have the stereo GEC Mc Michael(Hitachi) player with wired remote control. Iv replaced all the drive belts and the player is working ok. All the discs i have are second hand, i do tend to get a lot of groove skipping but the more i play the discs the better they get in that respect. My biggest worry is obtaining a replacement stylus, are they hard to get hold of? Apart from that the picture quality on my 49inch LCD PAL television is fairly good. I still manage to purchase new discs still in shrinkwrap from different areas of the U.K occasionally. I always take the discs out of their caddies and inspect them before playing. Its amazing how second hand discs often are covered in finger prints and scratches. Is there any safe way to clean a disc? You have a great set up there with your RCA equipment. We never got players with auto load hear in the U.K like you have. As far as i no the CED system was only on sale hear for about 6 months in 1983 and then scrapped. Thanx for everything. Regards Lee.

[@linusw]

I think the only way to get hold of a vintage stylus is throught a cheap broken player, I don't think any companies still manufacture styli

[@lolKbgTgm6621what]

You should get more movies besides Back to the Future. Also cool record collection!

[@z33_chris]

The shelves in the video had videodiscs

[@lolKbgTgm6621what]

@@z33_chris No, Back to the Future was on the floor. 0:15

[@thewatcher8573]

Cool I love oldscool vid tech like this

[@davidperez-mt1iy]

You love RCA jajaja I love SONY and so many more companys but my father living with RCA trade mark in Acapulco, México. Saludos 2022

[@nicholashardick5959]

When I was like 4-5 my baby sitter had one of these and had Thriller on it.

[@joefell5311]

This is cool as hell!

[@treadmillrepair754]

Amazing picture quality is cristal clear.

[@shaider1982]

Technology Connections has a very extensive video series on this.

[@martief1st]

Clearly better than VHS, at least in quality. Too bad a lot of times formats become dominant simply because they are the cheapest option. People think I’m crazy cause I still own a bunch of 3D blu-rays, but it’s my favorite format.

[@joerich1629]

I’m not sure but I think Back to the Future may have been the last film released on CED.

[@FN_FAL_4_ever]

According to wiki, it was The Jewel Of The Nile

[@VKcomedyan]

Iam fast time see CED

[@claytonbouldin9381]

I actually found some CED discs at the Goodwill last week.

[@VKcomedyan]

I am fast time see CDE

[@FerGL]

how that medica can be a ruin for rca? looks great

[@cleiton1984]

Ainda bem que inventaram o VHS,nesse tempo,esses discos aí deveriam custar uma fortuna

[@MrJoeGooch]

Great setup!

[@dazg4299]

Excellent

[@Halliday7895]

That's Walter Scott stunt man driving the jeep.

[@Crazyfootballguy]

Nice demo...... I started to watch the movie, and then you stopped it!

[@BubbaCoop]

As mentioned, that's not Spielberg, but the stunt coordinator on the movie.

[@IvanRossS]

Wow I never ever in my life heard or even seen one of those

[@johnkean6852]

The audio is good too!

[@AlextheMLAATRfan]

This is what DVDs and Blu-Rays should’ve done in the first place

[@Valay.]

Wish i lived in that era

[@chall6761]

Nice shorts.

[@jasonrocker13]

Thank you for sharing this awesome video. Do you sell the movies?

[@ketonicdude]

Still have my movies. Thanks for asking.

[@gitgeronimo9375]

Cool! Though, that is most certainly not Spielberg driving the Jeep. For a long time there was a urban legend that it was Harrison Ford though.

[@botkinracing]

Yep, it's Walter Scott the stuntman, definitely not Spielberg.

[@KaitenKenbu]

Neat collection

[@MrNeptunebob]

I saw a Professor of Rock video about Hall and Oates. Since they were RCA artists, did RCA make any of their videos or concerts on Selectavision? If they had, it might have made RCA more money.

[@ketonicdude]

cedmagic.com/v-title-database/rose/rock-n-soul-live-1.html

[@MrU2vertigo]

amazing

[@timroux3640]

Very cool brotherman BTW it's Walter Scott not Spielberg 😂

[@filmguymike]

Sorry, that's not Spielberg driving the Jeep. It is Walter Edward Scott, stunt coordinator. The only movie I know of that Spielberg is in is the Blues Brothers (when they go to pay the taxes the guy collecting the money in that office is Spielberg)

[@dilipmacbookssaparamadu3522]

thanks a lot.. Sir..!

[@arhipovskiy]

Cool!!! Hallo from Belarus.Thanks

[@megazordmania5986]

Fascinating.

[@marcusd4366]

Fantastic!

[@harleyrobertson73]

i only just found out about this 5 minutes ago, how did this get forgotten this is the precursor to the dvd. this is whats going to happen to vhs as well

[@martin_minimalwave]

Whats the different between VHD and CED?

[@emuzaurus]

cool

[@tntreviews3602]

that is a good i deal to protect the disk from scratches

[@danielj.glowny4108]

I had three different CED players plus hundreds of CED disc and the problem with CED discs was the skipping problem even with new discs.

[@ketonicdude]

They will skip because they were coated with a layer of silicone to protect them from the stylus. Over time that silicone has settled down in the grooves of the disc. When you play the disc the stylus struggles to push that silicone back up out of the grooves. If you play the disc again you'll notice the skipping is less and if you play through the disc a couple times it will stop completely. Just have to play them.

[@danielj.glowny4108]

When you get down to it the reason why RCA CED had a short life in the market as compared to Laserdisc is the damn skipping period.

[@ketonicdude]

@@danielj.glowny4108 I'm sure it didn't help matters but the actual reason it flopped was because you couldn't record on it. It was released in competition with VHS. At that time a movie on VHS was around $80 to $100. When CED came out a movie was around $20 to $30. So you could get 4 or 5 movies for the same price as one VHS movie. But you couldn't record on it and people didn't want to have to have a VCR to record their shows and a CED player to watch movies.

[@danielj.glowny4108]

@@ketonicdude Both RCA CED and Laserdisc were never competition with either Beta or VHS even thought many people believed this.The two Disc systems were designed to sell movies for home use,while Beta and VHS were designed to record TV programs to watch later.Laserdisc lasted 22 years till DVD took over Movies for home use.RCA CED lasted only a few years when VHS Movies came out in rental and later when Movies On Tape were a lot cheaper.The failure of CED killed RCA VICTOR and was sold to G.E. who sold off the various divisions

[@MrRonfelder]

@@ketonicdude still crap

[@spawnlordgaming7826]

So honest question, Is calling a CED disc like saying Capacitance Electronic Disc Disc ? 😊

[@ketonicdude]

Yes that would be true, people do that with DVD as well, or LD. Technically RCA called their CED system, RCA Selectavision Videodisc, so you should really be calling it a Selectavision disc. Capacitance is just the technology that it utilized. And actually when you say the acronym for CED you say Capacitance Electronic Disc System so really it should be a CEDS, but technicalities. lol

[@eternylbliss2151]

I was buying horror CED horror movies for awhile then thought man you gotta find a player for these. Hard to find a player that works - I own the SJT 300 model only one that worked 100% - cool technology and always trying to explain it to people they get it confused with a laserdisc player which I also own... I guess I am a closet nerd.

[@plusplusplusplusp]

I had no idea it was possible to encode video onto vinyl

[@BRIGHTJUS]

Fire 🔥

[@berighteous]

I have one and I bought like 150 discs. Every one of them plays for a while and then st-st-st-stutters. I don't know if I need to service the player.

[@ketonicdude]

Couple of things. The discs were coated with silicone to protect them from stylus wear. Over time that silicone has settled down into the grooves of the discs. Then when you play them the stylus has to force that silicone back out of the grooves resulting in skipping. If you play the disc a few times through the skipping will go away. But since these are grooved PVC discs, if they were stacked for a long period of time, the weight of the discs will have crushed the grooves in the center. So if they play great at the beginning and then skip a lot 15 to 20 minutes in, then most likely they were stacked and the discs are ruined. There is no solution to cure this unfortunately.

[@matro951]

Makes you wonder why they didn't make records with the caddy

[@kc4cvh]

How was the audio on these ill-conceived devices? Was it at least in stereo?

[@ketonicdude]

Audio was actually the best thing on them. It's better quality than both VHS and Laserdisc of the time. And yes, on the blue discs it was stereo, the white discs indicate mono.

[@MrBuc128]

A friend of mine had one of these. I was extremely jealous

[@elliderdelossng1]

you're the best

[@ThisisDTV]

I love how stupidly big they are.

[@spvlogs6346]

Im trying to get a ced player and some disc ,but couldn't able to find in my country(india) Someone can help me

[@ketonicdude]

They were never offered for sale in India. They were available in the USA and the United Kingdom only. The UK players were all Hitachi models and stylus are very hard to find for them. I would recommend you buy a RCA player and some discs off eBay international. Best of luck.

[@SevenDeMagnus]

Cool. A vinyl like technology that plays videos and sounds. Is that analog or it's still digital like a laser disc? It's probably more durable like vinyl is to cds. God bless, Proverbs 31

[@ketonicdude]

Actually it is Analog, and so is Laserdisc. Laserdisc did have digital audio towards the end but the picture was always analog. CED's are actually very fragile, they are composed of PVC rather than Vinyl like a record so they are prone to break a little easier and they have 40 grooves for every 1 groove in a record so the surface of the disc is very susceptible to stacking or oils from your fingers. Thats why they must be housed in the caddy. But none the less it is a very neat format. Thanks for watching.

[@ThatVinylChannel]

@@ketonicdude Vinyl is a short name for PVC. PVC stands for polyvinyl chloride

[@watchguy79]

I never knew Spielburgles was in the jeep.

[@BubbaCoop]

It's not Spielberg

[@TheHipHopolypse]

No it isn’t

[@LardyD]

I can hear the tv through the video. I haven’t heard the sound in a loooong time

[@weegie3343]

how does a vinal disk look better than vhs.

[@ketonicdude]

www.cedmagic.com/home/cedfaq.html#onetwelve

[@lukedunlap9543]

CED is just like laserdisc, only different.

[@frikidem8312]

Is láser disk ?

[@badbadworld00]

thats i use to watch last american virgin on that

[@SevenDeMagnus]

New subscriber here.

[@DigitalGTA]

Is that TV a VJM2023?

[@ketonicdude]

Yes it is, VJM2023S, good eye.

[@DigitalGTA]

Josh Gibson, what a beauty. I’ve been looking everywhere and can’t locate one. I did find a 1985 Colortrak 2000 in woodgrain, but the seller flaked on me.

[@ketonicdude]

@@DigitalGTA Thank you, yeah I lucked out on this one, found it on Craigslist about 8 years ago and it was only a 2 hour drive from me. It's an amazing TV, I watch a CED on it several times a week.

[@DigitalGTA]

Josh Gibson thanks for sharing it with us!

[@MrBuc128]

That’s not Spielberg in the Jeep

[@herby4215]

Seeing a movie from the LP

[@maxpercer7119]

there's spielburg in the jeep

[@HerecomestheCalavera]

Wow you've got quite the CED collection there! I'm surprised so many movies were released on the format. I really can't see the reason to buy one back in the day. If you were interested in something like this it seems like you would just buy a Laserdisc over a CED. Laserdiscs were played via a laser so nothing was ever physically touching the disc therefore it wouldn't wear out and could be played basically an infinite amount of times and the 10,000th play would look just as good as the 1st time it was played (not counting laser rot) CED however were played with a stylus which over time would cause wear to the disc and make it more prone to skipping and degradation of the video/audio quality. Not only that but it was more of a hassle to own a CED as you would have also eventually replace the stylus in the player. I don't know I just don't see why back in the 80s a person would choose CED over Laserdisc. It is kind of amazing they even bothered to release it. It was obsolete from day 1. Had the CED came out 5+ years before Laserdisc I could understand it's purpose more but by the time it was finally released it really had no reason to exist. With all that said I still think it is a neat format to collect for. I've seen CED discs for sale a few times at local flea markets and even own Wargames on CED just because I really like that movie. But in all my years of going to thrift stores and flea markets I've not once come across a CED player. If I ever saw one for cheap I'd certainly buy it and see if my Wargames disc is playable.

[@danielj.glowny4108]

While Laserdisc were a better idea,the price difference was great between a laserdisc player $600.and up compared to CED players at $150.and up.Laserdiscs at $30. to well over $100.CED discs at $20.to $40.Also the selection of CED disc were greater that Laserdisc at the same time,because laserdisc were on the market over 20 years the number of titles surpassed that of CED which only lasted a few years.

[@gavnewton77]

Not Spielberg.