Denmark is not "Socialist" | Denmark Prime Minister (Lars Løkke Rasmussen)

Denmark's 25th Prime Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen proclaims that Denmark is not a socialist economy, but a "market economy".
Right-wing political figures such as Ben Shapiro have used this proclamation to disregard the successes of "socialism" that are attributed to Denmark.

[@Chris-oh2jq]

It always surprises me how many people think the Scandinavian nations are socialist.

[@Daddyzigger]

They are brainwashed Bernie just doesn’t want to get compared to Stalin, pal pot, Mao Zedong, etc..

[@exocet8834]

You basically only hear it from leftists and MAGA guys.

[@freegeorgia4808]

Progressives in America were pushing that lie so they could upgold socialism as some social justice system when it's actually slavery and the only ones with any luxury of any kind work for the government.

[@freegeorgia4808]

@Exocet 8 see my comment below. No conservatives ever thought Denmark was socialist. Progressives were pushing that lie and I used this video to counter which they laughed at. Progressives are the real socialist. You can tell by the illegal censorship

[@kestutisstugys1189]

It depends on what do you mean by "socialist". At the beginning of the talk Rasmussen said "PLANNED socialist economy". No modern socialists, or rather no modern socialists other than tankies, suggests PLANNED economy as a viable option. Most contemporary socialists I'm aware of are advocating for government control on key industries, where the risk of perverse incentives is high, such as healthcare, and education, just like in Denmark, as well as strong unions, just like in Denmark, worker co-ops, and strong welfare state, just like in Denmark. American conservatives are very good on not understanding that. They often goes "first I will not be able to get a second heart attack after seeing my hospital bill, don't have to be in debt to finish college, and have what to eat an where to sleep when I don't have a job, and next thing I know, I'll be in a gulag", and that's just wrong.

[@mikeylejan8849]

They are a capitalist country with strong social, welfare benefits, and strong human rights,but they are not a socialist country.

[@magnusorn7313]

yea, they just have policies like that of bernies platform

[@mikeylejan8849]

@@magnusorn7313 well Bernie should stop calling them socialist then.

[@magnusorn7313]

@@mikeylejan8849 why? should a british person not call a cigarette a f*g? i mean, if americans call social democracy "democratic socialism" they may be factually incorrect in the lens of international definitions but language is what we make of it, words mean what we agree they mean

[@HairySeagull]

@@magnusorn7313 It's pretty stupid to promote something with a label half the viewers interpret as something different than what you are proposing. I agree language is fluid. But then a new name is needed for actual socialism. Because socialism is NOT the same as welfare (mine and also the official definition). State ownership of production =/= State offering services to the people.

[@magnusorn7313]

@@HairySeagull mot of the people that think bernie is a communist would say that healthcare and free education is socialist so considering that bernie calls himself a democratic socialist, he would still be meeting the definitions that the right wing provide sure there is misinterpretations, but if you look at american opinions on what is socialism you come to see that bernies platform falls into the american definition of socialism, you have stupid social democrats who call themselves socialists, and you have stupid conservatives who call social democratic policies "socialist"

[@BangMaster96]

All the dislikes are from Bernie and AOC supporters

[@BangMaster96]

@@5drtfygunjm The only way his policies work is if the middle class pays 40% of the taxes, taxing the rich ain't gonna do shit, the rich have huge teams of accountants, lawyers, and know all the loopholes to evade taxes, the middle class don't have that luxury. You Social Democrats fail to understand that rich people don't like being taxed, they worked hard to make all that money, you don't become rich by sitting on your ass on the sofa in your mom's basement, you actually have to create value, work 80 hour weeks, take a huge financial risk to start a business, give it your all, make sure the business stays alive, because 50% of business fail within the first 5 years, which incurs a huge financial loss on the person who was running that business. The rich people are the entrepreneurs, they are the ones who create jobs, the place you work at exists because somebody took a financial risk to start that business, work hard to sustain it, make sure it profits, after which he or she is able to hire people like you. France tried a wealth tax and guess what happened, thousands of millionaires left, taking their businesses and jobs elsewhere, which left hundreds of thousands of people unemployed, and Government lost money because middle class don't even account for that much of the tax revenue. The top 10% of earners pay 70% of the income tax, the bottom 90% of the population only account for 30% of the tax revenue. Biden wants to do free healthcare, free education, welfare, even universal basic income, etc, who the heck is going to provide money to support all these programs? The only reason countries like Canada, Denmark, or Nordic countries have free healthcare and education is because the middle class over their pay 40% or more in income taxes. The Businesses still get huge tax cuts in those countries. Stop falling for all these feel good policies, when most of you Bernie Sanders supporters don't even understand basic economics.

[@BangMaster96]

@@5drtfygunjm If you think rich people didn't work hard to make that money, then your entire argument is null and void. 88% of millionaires are self-made, and since you think that rich people don't work that hard, and they're only rich because "they know people that they get picked for jobs", which doesn't even make any sense, then why don't you go become rich. Last I checked, I haven't seen any cooperative business revolutionize any industry. Most of the innovation has come from private entities. And the role of the CEO is to manage the operations and resources of a Company, I feel pity for the Business degree you paid because you don't understand jackshit about how a business works. Steve Jobs was the CEO of Apple, but he didn't understand shit about building a computer, writing software, creating circuit boards, what capacitor or resistor was, managing network and datacenter. Tim Cook, the current CEO of Apple, same thing, Sundar Pichai, current CEO of Google, he doesn't know what data structures and algorithms are implemented in the Google Spider Crawler Algorithm. For a person boasting about Economic and Business degrees, you sure are a moron who doesn't know shit I have nothing against Cooperative business, but get out here with your stupid socialist arguments. You can suck Bernie Sander's wrinkled asshole, because Free Market Capitalism is the best form of economic system in human history. Go figure

[@BangMaster96]

@@5drtfygunjm kzbin.info/www/bejne/aanUXqRslp6nea8

[@Big_Friendly]

@@5drtfygunjm you helped prove the point Libertarians make, "everything government does is at the barrel of a gun". Freeze back accounts for anyone who does not comply!? Holy shit that is some dictator type involvement. No way the Constitution allows seizing property for merely trying to move, and yes money is property. You are advocating for our country to no longer be free.

[@Big_Friendly]

@@5drtfygunjm government burdens only drive up the cost, making it appear as though labor has not been fairly compensated. Look at the industries with the most subsidies and see how their inflation outpaces everything else?

[@Patrick-rm8jq]

I’m a Dane and I didn’t vote for Rasmussen the two times he ran for PM. But everything he says here is true

[@giuliom3564]

I guess he is not bad compared to most politicians. And what did you vote?

[@LjuboCupic1912]

@@giuliom3564 he probably voted for the center-left Social Democratic Party (Rasmussen’s party is the center-right Venstre).

[@giuliom3564]

@@LjuboCupic1912 Ah yes, I can guess the same. But in Denmark there are many parties, including socialist party, Red-green, and Social liberal if we take left leaning side.

[@LjuboCupic1912]

@@giuliom3564 I’m aware, I’m just guessing the result I think is the most likely (because SDP received the most votes in the two elections).

[@giuliom3564]

@@LjuboCupic1912 Yes, I agree it's the most likely.

[@somerando8615]

Hello everyone who bookmarked this video so they could drop it on their facebook friends every election cycle.

[@thischarminglovehound2376]

This and Jordan Peterson's speech about George Orwell's Wigan Pier.

[@majkir3695]

Im doing it just now haha

[@brothersandsistersofvalhalla]

Let me get this straight you want your FB friends to hear about an old guy who doesnt know what he was talking about, made a fool of himself, and lost the election by a landslide last election?

[@somerando8615]

He was right about the socialism. Get rekt commie.

[@boiiii9042]

@@brothersandsistersofvalhalla lmao who the hell are you to be saying that he doesn't know what he's talking about, have you run a country before? And you act like if a different person is the PM Denmark will just magically be a Socialist country, L.

[@billhennessey6374]

Thirteen people have given this video a thumbs down. They must be really disappointed that the Danish Prime Minister is admitting that Denmark isn't socialist, haha!

[@giuliom3564]

Nobody informed said it's socialist. It's socialdemocratic.

[@billhennessey6374]

@@giuliom3564 , exactly, no one who is informed. I was simply expressing amusement at thirteen people giving the video a thumbs down.

[@giuliom3564]

@@billhennessey6374 But such a huge welfare would be socialist compared to american system.

[@Walter-td7wi]

@@giuliom3564 no they arent socialist democratic theyre a full.market economy with a welfare system

[@stefanobregante5633]

@@Walter-td7wi the term "socialdemocracy" has changed its meaning over time. Nowadays it's not the same as democratic socialism, but more like the application of (typically) socialist policies in a capitalist economic frame.

[@stover14]

Educating americans one at a time

[@ironicmysoginist2035]

Regardless denmark is socialist or not,this is what bernie is chasing However trying to educate a miseducated centrist will take no more than forever due to their pro boomer conservatism

[@stover14]

@@ironicmysoginist2035 What are you talking about, Bernie has supported the USSR, Cuba, and other anti American socialist shit holes? Socialists in my country would never do that, it's disgusting and completely unacceptable here, and it should be there too.

[@stover14]

@@ironicmysoginist2035 I don't like socialism, but that doesn't mean I don't like all socialists. However I specifically dislike Bernie, he's a dishonest piece of shit and has praised legitimate dictatorships, things that have nothing to do with his economics, you can be a socialist yet still distance yourself from the Soviet union but he never did that.

[@ironicmysoginist2035]

@@stover14 aaahhh i have seen this coming,he only praised them for the things that they have better than the US AKA healthcare You are miseducated

[@ironicmysoginist2035]

@@stover14 all you do is eat whatever the media is serving to you and that proves my point about how you're pro boomer

[@azhaneden]

1:24 hey Bernie:

[@ironicmysoginist2035]

Its not important if denmark is socialist or not because well bernie is trying to do the same as denmark. Regardless they're socialist or not,thats what bernie is pursuing you uneducated centrist Oh sorry "miseducated".

[@magnusorn7313]

@Skn&Bns hes no, hes calling it "democratic socialism" which is an umbrella term that covers social democracy

[@magnusorn7313]

@Skn&Bns hitler never used socialism, the very first year in power he banned the communist and social democrat parties and later on in his reign he had all the communist and socialists killed not only in germany but in controlled regions as well, we went over it in class here in denmark, if the resistance had not burned all the records of the socialist party there would have been thousands more killed

[@stobe1563]

Hehe, I see what you did there

[@mfsalatino]

@@ironicmysoginist2035 the same bernie praised chavez policies?

[@liamcolotti6824]

It’s not right-wingers using it. It’s people who use facts on both sides.

[@siddharthnandi8567]

Nah it's mostly uninformed who use it.

[@Tasos04252]

Put simply people with a brain used it.

[@NutnRoll]

@@siddharthnandi8567 The president himself came out and said this. That's a damn good evidence to use, don't you think? 😒

[@FM-dm8xj]

how is it both sides when one side is saying it and the other is refuting it?

[@selocan469]

Facts are facts, and nice thing about them are that there is nothing political about them

[@TheOverlordTank]

0:42 Vsauce in the top left

[@XxRaceRCxX]

He does look like Michael

[@theboringprogrammer4444]

"Hey, Vsauce, Michael here! Where is Denmark's Socialism...?"

[@evanshiong642]

Scandinavian countries are actually more in line with the old liberalism than progressivism - fiscally conservative (no minimum wage, low corporate tax rate) while socially liberal (social programs and universal healthcare).

[@kestutisstugys1189]

The question is, why don't they have a minimum wage? Is it because they want business owners to pay just enough that their workers don't starve to death, or it's because wages are negotiated by unions there? Try to suggest to American conservatives that the US government should support unions and make union busting illegal. I don't think that would make them happy.

[@Wilson-xd4zq]

@@kestutisstugys1189 They don't have a minimum wage for the same reason the government doesn't set the price for something like bread. They don't have a minimum wage for the same reason Singapore doesn't have one - it either causes inflation, unemployment or both.

[@kestutisstugys1189]

@@Wilson-xd4zq No, it's because wages in Sweden are negotiated by unions. See the employer is inherently more powerful than an individual worker and that makes negotiation for wages inherently unfair. This is why in most developed countries either minimum wage or collective bargaining exists. Countries that doesn't have either, includes such awesome places to live as Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Somalia. But at leat they don't have unemployment and inflation, right?

[@Wilson-xd4zq]

@@kestutisstugys1189 The employer isn't "inherently more powerful than the individual worker." It depends on the employer and it depends on the worker. A worker with a lot of skills in an in demand field is the one with negotiating power. Not all wages in Sweden are "negotiated by unions" because not everyone in Sweden is in a union. Are you from there? And your last statement is laughably wrong. Is Singapore like Ethiopia? Germany didn't have a minimum wage until recently. Was it like Ethiopia? And if the government needs to set the price for labor, then why shouldn't it also set the price for food? After all, what good is a minimum wage if the price of food is really high? And if a minimum wage doesn't cause inflation or unemployment, why not just set it at $100 an hour? After all, there are no adverse consequences, right?

[@kestutisstugys1189]

@@Wilson-xd4zq "The employer isn't "inherently more powerful than the individual worker."/.../ A worker with a lot of skills in an in-demand field is the one with negotiating power." Yes, all five of them. The overwhelming majority of individual workers are inherently less powerful than their employers, and nobody is asking the government to raise the minimum wage for NBA players. "Not all wages in Sweden are "negotiated by unions" because not everyone in Sweden is in a union." Yes, just almost 70% of them. Let's not pretend that it has no impact on the rest. "Germany didn't have a minimum wage until recently." That's because unions did collective bargaining for wages in Germany. "And if the government needs to set the price for labour, then why shouldn't it also set the price for food?" The government sets prices all the time. It's usually for telecommunications and other natural monopolies. "After all, what good is a minimum wage if the price of food is really high?" The government does that too. Only in extreme cases, because food prices tend not to be so high, that raising the minimum wage wouldn't cut it. "And if a minimum wage doesn't cause inflation or unemployment, why not just set it at $100 an hour? After all, there are no adverse consequences, right?" I don't say that it has no impact on inflation whatsoever, just that it's negligible. 0.036, to be precise, according to this study: research.upjohn.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1278&context=up_workingpapers So if the minimum wage is raised by 10% it will cause 0.36% inflation. I don't know about you, but I'd be happy to get a 10% higher wage, even if everything becomes 0.36% more expensive. This is an adverse consequence I can live with.

[@rougemont8116]

Girl in 1:49: "That´s what we need"... And then Rasmussen says 25% Sales Tax and 180% excise duties

[@Soulatheunholy]

We also have a higher salary average than Americans. So in the end, we get all the benefit, and still have the same money in our hands as an American. You get low taxes, but also poor wages.

[@nomiscph]

Henry Staggs Well you dont have any benefits though 😅

[@nomiscph]

Henry Staggs i dont get where your going with this? 😅 Yes we have high taxes and we have so Many benefits you dont even know What your missing out on 💪 But anyway who am i to judge on your countries descisions - you guys choose the people who are running your country :)

[@giuliom3564]

@Henry Staggs it's different, cause median household income does not say much about low wages in USA. And then costs of life in USA get more expensive than in Denmark if you consider the insane health care insurance costs. And also University is very expensive.

[@freegeorgia4808]

@@nomiscph america is 27th on the freedom index. The nordic countries are in the top 5. Less tax and regulation on business and free markets are completely lost on the progressive left. Notice everyone pays their fair share according to the PM. Here its tax the rich. Bernie was tax the millionaires until he became one now he is tax the billionaires. There are 330 billionaire here. Tge government could spend that money just giving money to other countries even those that still practice slavery. Its delusional.

[@fightingforthefuture2941]

I just saw a socialist on tiktok that had a lot of likes and lost all hope in the world and felt a sudden sense of doom and depression as I have been doing lately, this gave me some hope.

[@rainestillreign3002]

bernie left the chat.

[@thecommonsenseconservative5576]

I literally quoted this and cited it to some moron that claimed they were. He straight up said I was lying LOL

[@imkluu]

Yep, just posted a link to this. I commented that the Scandinavian countries were not socialist after some idiot posted about how socialism was great, and how well it worked in the Scandinavian countries. His response was "Nope. You are wrong. They are Democratic Socialist. You are ill informed." I hope he watches this and realizes how misinformed he is. Not all of these indoctrinated useful idiots of the left are completely lost. All it takes is getting past all the lies and deceptions of the left that they have been fed, and getting them to listen to the truth, for some to break free.

[@freegeorgia4808]

That's what the marxist socialist do In America as well. Denmark isn't a free market country they scream

[@freegeorgia4808]

@@imkluu cognitive dissonance is a serious problem for the woke marxist socialist in the US

[@justadad6677]

@@freegeorgia4808 Not really. I live here, I am from Denmark. The issue lies more in what people call Socialism and what they associate with that. Take just two examples that are easy to distinguish between Denmark and USA: Universal Healthcare and Free Public Education. Denmark has and excel on both. America in general, has neither. To most Americans, that would make Denmark Socialist. It all depends on your perspective.

[@isag.s.174]

@@freegeorgia4808 not only at the US, there's ignorant people like this everywhere and I don't get it 😐

[@bridgetriley8239]

60% taxes!!???!?!?!? No thanks I don’t wanna work then!!!!

[@vladimirlenin665]

The taxes are not 60 percent they are high though but they basicaly pay for education healthcare and other important public stuff in the us you have to pay for all these and they are more expensive

[@mikaellarsson1688]

Not sure about Denmark but in Sweden you certainly pay around 60% if you have a decent income(like an engineer). You need to consider the whole chain of taxes; VAT, employer fees and income taxes.

[@markmullins7732]

I actually can't tell if the distinction ends up being fundamentally real, but his remarks are fascinating. This Denmark leader is finding the difficulty of where to draw the line on disincentives for work. An issue, for example, is that you have to incentivize a doctor by letting him make enough money to make him happy with all the study and work he put in and make him happy with social recognition of his God-given intelligence and dexterity; he has to be valued in the market more than the burger-flipper to incentivize life-saving medical work, but in what amount? Net $350/hour dr vs $15/hour burger flipper? Would net $75/hr dr vs $20/hour burger flipper still work? I say "net" because the market may set the wage, but the government sets the confiscation through taxes. So the wage means nothing until you also know the tax. How about social value on praiseworthy behavior? Maybe the burger flipper is less stressed and is better at kindness than the dr making sure his hands are rested and steady for the incision and, based on this, the burger flipper is happy with little money and high popularity or self-esteem or the prospect of one day being a doctor or burger magnate. If you get the calculation wrong, the dr. will do burgers instead or move to a country where he's more valued. Members of the early church gave out of their surplus ability(extra property) to others in surplus need (insufficient food). With the Spirit of God in them, they could do this with the joy of pleasing God and/or trust in power to see it to a beautiful end. No atheist or Christian government can do this, because the calculations are too many and enforcement too expensive to accomplish centrally. Humans are also naturally selfish and ignorant, but also naturally high-minded (God has given each a conscience). Jesus observed, when his disciples slept instead of watching and praying while He suffered the agony of impending humiliation, derision, and crucifixion that "the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak". His disciples wanted to pray for Him, which is why they were with Him, but their bodies needed rest and they preferred to sleep, against the feelings in their hearts. God would later give them an amazing vitality (His Spirit). God is omnipotent and omniscient, so for Him, it's nothing to move among His people. It's internally motivated and sustained. Nevertheless, the Denmark model can be instructive, both on consensual high taxes and consensual hard work, but how can any government regulate (i.e. dictate) the levels; it is VERY tricky. Socialists degenerate into murder, even genocide. Communism does, and evidently must, deny God or any outside normative source aside from the government; for them, socialism is a tool to reach the unattainable utopian end of economic equality. Good government, however, must protect physical freedom (which includes each person marketing her/his labor/time and other resources) and soul or spirit freedom (which includes loving or hating God (or claiming that there is no God and that meaning is otherwise found)). U.S. founders understood, and at least one SAID, our system depends on a moral and religious people. I suspect all systems do, however.

[@arizona2010busch]

I'm a dane, and I payed for social security in Denmark when I lived there, through taxes. My 3 tax bracket in the 80ties, I payed, 1:51% 2: 65% and 3: 71%. so I don't think he tells it all.

[@PixiBoii]

In the 80's bro, that's 40 years ago. just shut up

[@Heinrich2awsome]

Everybody supports the nordic system until they hear that many people in denmark are in unions😂

[@Matthew-Anthony]

"A country will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work, and give to those who will not." ~Thomas Jefferson

[@mateodanielrodriguezvillal301]

Argentina.

[@Matthew-Anthony]

@@mateodanielrodriguezvillal301 What about Argentina?

[@keanrdbropedersen1487]

If you say we just give money to people who WONT work in Denmark, i think you should research the requirenments for receiving the benefits. Some people here had to send 800 job application before getting a job. There can be a lot of reasons. The government doesnt just hand out money left and right.

[@Matthew-Anthony]

@@keanrdbropedersen1487 That is how it works in the U.S. though. I am not talking about Denmark right now.

[@AnthM33]

www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/democracy-will-cease-exist-spurious-quotation

[@tonyc2569]

I was a socialist until I got my first job.

[@edsonpacheco294]

It's important that they explain how they pay for this

[@ROCKmotaROCK]

Wow, a liberal politican is saying that Denmark is not socialist, this will destroy all my facebook friends who claim scandinavian countries are socialists.... but when Bernie asks for similar policy is deemed as a dangerous communist ahah

[@noahremnek3615]

Bernie calls for policies that are complete opposite of Denmark’s policies like supporting a $15 minimum wage and banning private health insurance. In Denmark there is no minimum wage and they have private health insurance.

[@ROCKmotaROCK]

@@noahremnek3615 if Bernie was Danish he wouldn't ask for a minimum salary either because there the state doesn't have to impose a living salary on their people, the companies do that alone. Thats what happens on socially evolved countries

[@noahremnek3615]

@@ROCKmotaROCK I believe if you don’t like your job at Walmart then go get another job. If you don’t like how much they pay then you are free to find another job this is not the USSR you can quit your job anytime.

[@ROCKmotaROCK]

@@noahremnek3615 or just pay a living wage to everyone like developed countries do, idk

[@noahremnek3615]

@@ROCKmotaROCK Okay a lot of companies pay a higher wage than the minimum for low skilled jobs like Amazon, Chick-fil-A, and Starbucks.

[@freegeorgia4808]

'Hillary was asked about being a liberal. She said I am not liberal I am progressive. They intentionally confused the two. What I have been seeing is liberals voting conservative because they can't go along with this trans nonsense especially forcing it on child. It took me a while to see the difference. Then recently the Nevada legisture, both liberal and conservative voted 324 to 74 approximately to condemn the horrors of Socialism. The votes against were all the progressives. It was progressives AND the socialist party of Nevada that condemned the vote. This was very telling for me when I put all of these events together. Now Hilary and Obamas mentor was Saul Alinski an avowed communist. Anyone who would laugh at that should read Rules for Radicals. Even her calling opposition deplorables is based on propaganda instructions found in the book. I have read a great deal of Marx, Lenin, and Stalin to name a few. Most of my life and by the writings of these communist, socialism and communism were used interchangeably. I have spent too many hours trying to understand how these groups can be so incredibly out of touch with reality

[@pieterjhoek9815]

Imagine if the US president could address another country in perfect Spanish or French

[@narimoto11]

​@MUL8ZNME That just show how lazy some people are, learning new languages is always a good thing.

[@narimoto11]

@MUL8ZNME You'll never know if you don't try.

[@Tommysimonsen]

Or just in English. Sleepy Joe will have to get up early that day.

[@alexlaza5301]

Lars Løkke Rasmussen is indeed not a Socialist at all. He is a liberal-conservative PM from the center-right Venstre party. But "sadly" the current PM of Denmark newly elected on this year's general election, Mette Frederikse from the Social Democratic Party is indeed a socialist, and she will proudly admit it.

[@Saiputera]

Yup sadly now Denmark is more socialist since mette frederikse is hard core far left

[@TriLe-nz4oq]

And sorry you guys are fucked.

[@MachivelianBear]

Tri Le tbh nothing much has really changed under her government.

[@MachivelianBear]

Alexlaza you know he suggested forming a government with the left? He is a moderate at best.

[@MoyaBrennan6825]

Alexlaza Neither of them are socialist. Lars was doing jack shit when he was our prime minister and our current prime minister is doing jack shit as well. Calm your right-wing old expired ass down.

[@peenoice5176]

Now they just use other Scandinavian countries as an example lol

[@Ettibridget]

Really?

[@thabisoshale9168]

Well Sweden is now the most used example since Denmark basically debunked their lies.

[@jorgelenny47]

It's not socialism, it's a country that helps it's population live there, and they help back with taxes. From birth, you're given almost as many chances as anyone else regardless of the wealth of your family

[@DocJoby]

We can learn from Denmark's system. We should be trying to learn from every system.

[@mikhaildenisov6889]

Goddamn those taxes. Socialism sounds good but I'd rather spend on my own shit.

[@DocJoby]

Yes! Eliminate income taxes!!

[@michaelcriollo1420]

Well If i had to choose Id prefer to live in Denmark, I should of gone to college there😅 and didn't understand.. It isn't socialism.. Is a free market economy.

[@vladimirlenin665]

In other countries like the US instead of paying for taxes you pay in the private sector which is 100 times for expensive

[@mr.husquy9947]

What he also doesn’t mention is it does not matter what tax bracket you are in your paying 30% from billionaires to ditch diggers...everyone pays the same just like Sweden

[@smashingthreeplates2171]

I think one of Bernie’s faults when it comes to promptings his ideas, is that he wrongly refers as “Democratic Socialist” and not “Social Democratic”. Americans hate Socialism, they were fighting against it for 40 years. Bernie is still a Capitalist, regardless of how much he denies it.

[@Tommysimonsen]

Denmark is just Democratic, nothing in our constitution stop us in ended what ever social program we want to.

[@ktcarl]

60% income tax, 25% sales tax and 180% excise tax. Sounds like Utopia to me!

[@chadspinalbosd007]

I was a liberal but switch to republican due to trying to start a business in many republican and liberal states and the liberals states regulations made it hard to want to due to constant regulations and high taxes and republican states were simple and less regulations. All the regulations only allow the billion dollar companies to survive due to paying lawyers and teams to keep up with the regulations and change their policies and procedures based on it or to lobby the local officials to pass laws which created a loop hole only for these super rich businesses

[@DocJoby]

Yes. We need regulations that are easy and uncomplicated for small businesses. The current system favors large corporations. We need to move toward a libertarian federal government and then allow the states to decide their own laws, regulations, destiny.

[@TioMegamanX]

Fun fact, liberal in the US doesn't mean liberal in the rest of the continent apparently.

[@robertcain3426]

@@DocJoby Allowing states to have different laws and taxes is part of the problem. It should be federally determined.

[@Ohnonono123]

Conservatives: welfare states are socialism! Also conservatives: that welfare state over there is not socialist they even said so!!1

[@DocJoby]

They will use both depending on the situation. Yes. haha.

[@haydenhowell1647]

It is very true! Both sides confuse their definition of socialism!

[@giuliom3564]

@@DocJoby But compared to Usa Denmark would be socialist. But clearly it isn't

[@earlycuyler2295]

But Bernie said...

[@DocJoby]

all of the money is going to the top 1%!! This economy is rigged!!! We need a political revolution!!!!

[@earlycuyler2295]

@@DocJoby I mean yeah... But I don't see partisan politics as the solution. The whole " left vs right" is just a means to divide the people along arbitrary designations with the illusion of choice. The fact remains that BOTH parties answer to the same special interest groups, lobbies, and financiers. Trading out one for another does NOTHING but give the other a convenient scapegoat. If you'll oblige- It's like pro wrestling. Some people like The Undertaker, while others are really into the Hulkster. Both are provide their respective fan base the "entertainment" they desire, appealing to them along the distinctive set criteria known to their target demographic... But at the end of the day they share the same locker room. They realize that their "role" in the business is to give the crowd what it wants, so money can be made , influence spread, and clout leveraged... I'm saying we need to get rid of Mr McMahon.

[@gamingnerdgirlz]

Market economy, double the taxes. 😊

[@earlycuyler2295]

@@gamingnerdgirlz free market economy, eliminate taxes.

[@bastigerhards4934]

Too many americans here. I leave

[@acz88]

25% sales tax. Cost of living most be high af there.

[@RezanLoL]

but their salaries are extremely high tho

[@youreokayboah2128]

@@RezanLoL It should be when you’re giving the government 60% of your money. I’ll pass

[@bill8711]

@@youreokayboah2128 60 % is for Those $100k + that means you have To earn 1500000 DKK And more

[@bill8711]

In 2018 a beer was at almost 6€ And pack of Marlboro 55dkk 6€ I was Holliday the drink at strip clubs Where expensive 15€

[@profetenmogens1517]

It is insanely costly. Things are starting to crumble now because majority of people are on social Security benefits and the left has expanded and expanded giving taxpayer money for all their friends and their woke cooperations. Do not look to Denmark for inspiration. Look to Switzerland. Denmark is paradise for the lazy and the public sector and hell for small business owners and low-income workers trying to improve their lives by working hard.

[@GeorgeSagen]

Are the medical professionals, clinics, and hospitals state-run or privately owned competitors but state-reimbursed?

[@DocJoby]

I am not an expert on their healthcare system, but my guess is that it is fully socialized. Most countries in Europe have socialized medicine but private ownership and capitalism in other areas.

[@raideltorres5926]

Even now almost 2024 we still see ignorants with no clue about socialism, so good for Lars to put the shame on them hahahahahahahaha

[@davidg2479]

This needs more views...

[@markswan2582]

Free this, free that (wait, not really).

[@anwarhassan5581]

saying itsnt socialism doesn't make it as you want

[@DocJoby]

As who wants?

[@charlesashurst1816]

Oh good. Denmark isn't socialist and perhaps we can learn something from them. Is there anything we can learn from their health care services for example?

[@SluttyPhone]

#berniesanders

[@dfuher968]

@@SluttyPhone oh plz, Im so sick of that dishonest guy using our healthcare system as an argument for his crappy Medicare for All. If u want to learn from healthcare, then do so, instead of dishonestly using our system to promote the least shitty US system.

[@brothersandsistersofvalhalla]

We are socialist. This guy was reading a script and had no idea what he was talking about. To be honest most Danish politicans don't know the specifics of economics and marketing. There is an entire other section of our government for that.

[@alyrajwani7928]

@@brothersandsistersofvalhalla your prime minister "doesn't know what he [is] talking about". lmao your prime minister knows less about your country than you? you must not be that bright

[@brothersandsistersofvalhalla]

@@alyrajwani7928 Your argumentum has the capacity of a seven year old mentality. Try again.

[@DaHawaiianRedneck]

Ben shapiro did not claim Denmark was socialist. If you watch him enough you'd know that. But he did comment on bernie sanders belief that its a socialist utopia.

[@DocJoby]

Correct. The people claiming Denmark is "socialist" are the far left.

[@giuliom3564]

@@DocJoby More the far right than far left. The far left consider Denmark too capitalistic. But as Rasmussen said it's a free market economy with strong welfare.

[@WizenedFalcon3_9_1]

@@giuliom3564 far left and far right are the same thing. They both want equal torture and more government control. Simple as that

[@N12015]

I'm sure he said "Sweden is a capitalist country with expensive social programs" or something like that which is 100% correct. The "social" part of socialdemocracy comes from those programs, not the socialist model.

[@cathino]

this is for all who regurgitate Canada Denmark and Finland as supposedly being admirable socialists countries. While forgetting other countries like Cuba, Venenzuela, China, Soviet Union, etc., etc. a welfare state with high level of social benefits equals super high taxes. Would you like to pay 60% of your income to taxes, would you like to pay 25% sales tax and almost 180% in vehicle tax? universal healthcare equals all licensed Specialists make not much higher then minimum wage workers. Lastly with Globalists, Elitists, Nationalists Unions and Eugenics rampant the last thing you want is Universal Healthcare and Universal Education. Why? Because, UNIVERSAL Healthcare and Education is a much faster bullet train/bio weapon to a much bigger COMMUNIST One World Order One World Government.

[@25taylorkw]

So you think that certain social safety net programs is the gateway to economic communism? That's like saying that having a merit-based immigration system is a gateway to ethno nationalist fascism. There are countries that have a two-tier universal healthcare system aka a public health insurance program and private health insurance coexisting ) like we see in Australia and Singapore. And we all know those two countries are fairly capitalist. Edit : by the way a term like universal healthcare / universal health coverage means that a person can go to whatever doctor / physician of their choice without the financial burden aka not having the chance of going to medical debt. Not to mention there would not be any in network out of network clause.

[@theendurance]

Strong social safety net strangles economic growth and lowers wages. Americans make so much more than Europeans because we have the economic incentive to create businesses and pursue high skilled fields (because they pay so much more in America).

[@25taylorkw]

Firstly the US has never had a stronger social safety-net than other first-world countries around the world, and yet the workers wages in the US has been stagnating, US wages have been due to a combination of these three things like workers wages not being tied to productivity anymore, the monopolization of companies due to lack of enforcing antitrust laws ( in which a company can lowball the worker when it comes to pay ), and the decrease of worker unions due to union-busting being allowed, as of right now there's no legit economic research that says having a strong social safety net would be the causation of having lower wages, Secondly it would be necessary to have a form of a strong social safety net, a strong social safety net for only people in poverty would be having a guaranteed livable income program ( that's tied to inflation and cost of living ) that would be a replacement of the majority of US welfare programs, but the people in poverty would have to have a job in order receive the monthly income, then a social safety net for everyone would be a form of universal healthcare ( specifically a single-payer health insurance form of universal healthcare similar to Taiwan that would cover at least 75% of basic health care needs for all citizens ), of course the requirements for getting covered by this universal healthcare system would be being a legal citizen of that country that pays taxes.

[@donnamahoney3356]

The U.S. has been funneling American taxpayer dollars into the EU for at least the last 20 years. And in the process, our standard of living has dropped considerably and their standard of living has risen quite substantially. Now, that America taxpayer money is staying in the U.S. where it belongs, the effects of it. will soon be seen in the EU.

[@khfan4life365]

The Scandinavian model is not socialism. They are free market societies but are big welfare states. It should be noted that Scandinavian countries have smaller populations than the US and can easily have their big welfare states. Sweden used to be a socialist country in the 70s until they ran out of money and had to act quickly to reinstitute capitalism to make money again. It also should be noted that the US military is used to keep these countries safe, so the countries don’t have to worry about defense or national security.

[@25taylorkw]

What does population have to do with the systems / programs be funded through taxes, regardless of the population if a person is a citizen of a country with also requiring to pay taxes then the government would have more tax revenue to invest in the social safety net programs like social security, a single-payer health insurance form of universal healthcare, public colleges being tuition-free, and other social safety net programs, not to mention there's also a GDP that they generate tax money from private businesses that can be used as tax revenue, Also every other first-world country has taxes and GDP they fund their own militaries with also having taxes and GDP to fund their strong social safety net, that's just a talking point from neoconservatives ( and neoliberals to a certain extent ) who try to discredit having a strong social safety net for the citizens because it goes against the agenda of their corporate interests ( corporate interests being wall street, the for-profit health insurance industry, the oil companies, the pharmaceutical companies, the for-profit prison industry, and the military industrial complex ), nobody should follow the corporate agenda from whatever political commentator that's partnered with The Blaze, The Daily Wire, or PragerU ( political networks that are funded by the Koch brothers, oil billionaires or both ).

[@jeffersondarcy6648]

We have more people in Baltimore, Atlanta or Detroit, etc. alone, sitting on the porch, playing dominoes all day, waiting on their government check each month, than these countries have in their entire populations. Half of the US is subsidized, while the working class struggles to pay for it. And there is minimal check and balances.

[@elijahp7508]

I think your frustration is misguided. I can go into detail why I feel this way if you'd like. Strike up, not down.

[@Matthew-Anthony]

@@elijahp7508 You used an opinion. He used facts.

[@jerrybesch8532]

This guy should go speak at the dnc would maybe give the socialist commonsense

[@Bluesdav]

Certainly America is a country with many problems and one of those is people being entitled talking about how well off other countries are instead of trying to fix your own country house with real economics, humanity and learning from history.

[@InfiniteLynn]

Bernie Sanders isn't advocating for Socialism. Looks like there are too many ignorant people here congratulating themselves for owning the Bernie supporters when that isn't the case. Here, educate yourselves about what Bernie is advocating for: Social Democracy simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

[@cathino]

does anyone see how the pm sort of flips off viewers by scratching his nostril with his middle finger ? or did only i see that ?

[@gamingnerdgirlz]

I sow it 😆

[@johnboy4025]

Sanders has no successful references lol

[@ironicmysoginist2035]

Actually,alot of countries in europe has universal healthcare,they're socialist or not dont matter as long as they do have uni healthcare and THEY are very well not regretting it

[@theboringprogrammer4444]

@@ironicmysoginist2035 yeah but they pay a shit ton of taxes which is what most americans in the USA don't realize...

[@giuliom3564]

@@theboringprogrammer4444 Taxes are nothing compared to american health costs. Ignorant people like you don't realize that americans pay for health 10 times more than what we pay (mostly through taxes) for our total health service.

[@hsilviu7294]

Fe en la humanidad recuperada

[@marcelomercado3612]

Para todos los Argentinos cabeza de termo que dicen que quieren ser como los paises nordicos, haciendo lo mismo que hacia Hugo Chavez

[@DocJoby]

¿Era malo Hugo Chávez? Soy un ignorante... Gracias.

[@TtheMN]

Looks like yotube dont want people to see thus video. Its not running completely

[@vladimirlenin665]

1:25 what did just do

[@rodolfoperalta5180]

3:08 according to you what did he really meant when he said “reforms, reforms, reforms”

[@bebedor_de_cafe3272]

1:24 why

[@KAYJAYSTUDIOSYT]

Having a free market with a good social safety net isn't socialism. It's capitalism done correctly. Stop with this! People like Bernie literally just want what Denmark is doing. It's not hard.

[@thatoneuser8600]

Is Denmark's economic environment either: 1. Market capitalism 2. Centrally planned capitalism 3. Market socialism Because I'm so ducking confused, especially after seeing a document saying that Sweden was centrally planned capitalism. So if Sweden is called that, then isn't Denmark also centrally planned capitalism?

[@LjuboCupic1912]

@@thatoneuser8600 Denmark is a social democracy.

[@thatoneuser8600]

@@LjuboCupic1912 I know, that's their government system, but I'm asking for their economic system

[@giuliom3564]

@@thatoneuser8600 Also economic system is socialdemocratic. If you want to distinguish from other free market economy countries.

[@juanmanuelc6644]

Denmark has a completly different system from my point of view as a spaniard compared to what Bernie Sanders says. Bernie resembles more this kind of "yea yea, help the poor, and help me get rich" than any other thing.

[@bencrawshaw1227]

If Denmark was asked to embrace capitalism or socialism which one would they choose.

[@michaelcriollo1420]

They already told u that they are a capitalist country.. As capitalism is based on a free market system.

[@imnotgaybut6408]

We're already capitalist...

[@MrDanielfff777]

Where is the rest?

[@aguer007]

The problem of the Nordic countries is that they do not innovate, they are not the creators of progress, only of social and economic stability. They totally depend on countries like USA, Japan, Germany, South Korea, etc. that are ultra capitalist and those that take the risk of giving freedom to their citizens to create and invent. Then the only thing the Nordics do is adopt the things that these ultra-capitalist countries achieve, invent and discover. Just think that space, high technology, and many other industries is a very risky expense for an economy like that of the Nordic Countries that focuses only on everyone living well and stagnating in technological, industrial progress ... The Nordic countries are low risk capitalists, mostly focused on social stability and wealth distribution. They depend on the adoption of the discoveries of others.

[@giuliom3564]

You are wrong, indeed they innovate a lot, even more than other countries if you consider they are small countries.

[@imnotgaybut6408]

Norway invented a cheese cutter. Checkmate

[@searching8848]

Sweden and Denmark are literally in the top 10 global competitiveness index what are you even saying?

[@vladimirlenin665]

No it is just that nordic have extremely low population and not much of recources so they cant be japan south korea or china duh

[@korpsman3629]

@@vladimirlenin665 The biggest shipping company in the world is Danish. Denmark is literally the most important country in the world when it comes to ensuring global supply chains

[@dividad1]

With the free school/health care thing, it's like ok if I get a job where I get paid $50k/year but the govt takes half my money (or close to it) in taxes, isnt that a form of "payment"? I do agree that we should have more maternity/paternity leave here, just not sure how to tackle the problem

[@alexanderkruse5715]

Well, considering how much you get back in tax, we get a lot for what we give.

[@siddharthnandi8567]

For the best school in the world these clowns seem very serious about their issues

[@andreasg.9997]

I wish we were socialist…

[@rykellim]

After watching this video, I was going... in what way is Denmark NOT a socialist country? But for whatever it is worth, it is great that another country renounces the romance of socialism. Say NO to socialism. ;) ;) #republicanism

[@DocJoby]

#Freedom.

[@giuliom3564]

Denmark is socialdemocratic. Their right with would be left wing in USA.

[@alanfrost75]

The answer is that it is not a socialist country because it does not run with a system of public ownership. The Nordic Model has a capitalist base but with more social policies and regulations than the US one. But the core is still capitalist, which is why Denmark routinely ranks high on Forbes best countries for business. So essentially, the wealth is created via a capitalist system, but then partially re-invested in society, thus promoting social mobility and a high average standard of life. There should be no romance with socialism nor with capitalism. One should just as much say no to unregulated capitalism, where all the wealth is held in silos by the top 1% while much of the rest of the country is in poverty.

[@harolderhabor3550]

@@alanfrost75 it's literally less regulated than the us they have lower taxes for business

[@alanfrost75]

​@@harolderhabor3550 I am not familiar with the US regulations for businesses. Our corporate tax is marginally higher though. However, it is a different matter if you are looking at people rather than businesses.

[@mr.8999]

im movin to denmark

[@robjackson5245]

And they fucking love "friends" and are "bro"-hating

[@Therealestrunnerluda]

Would this be Democratic socialist

[@claudenormartins4468]

No. Just a free market country.

[@pratikpanchal9060]

I think the only reason that they are able to manage all these budget surpluses and welfare systems is because high taxes and because the US is kinda helping the nordic countries subsidize their defence spending (These countries never had to pay that much in defence,just look at the equipment they are using, a lot of it comes from the states eg.The F16s,35s,rockets,etc., Even companies like SAAB(Gripen E) ar using GE engines.If they were to get there defence industry from scratch like in the US,they won't be able to maintain all these surpluses.I think there's a reason they won't hike up defence spending is because they know if they get involved in some shit,daddy America will be there for the win.)

[@ss-lz4me]

European Union / NATO acts as a unified military among all European countries. Each country pays 2% of their gpd which is an agreement with the USA. In addition, the total GDP in Europe is 20 trillion which is pretty much the same as the usa. We could easily find that money ourselves. But the US has economic interests in retaining the power as they can lose more money by losing Europe to China or Russia Europe is admittedly not militarily oriented but on the other hand they have economic power over Asia and the Middle East which means that Europe can harm them economically through sanctions. The United States is not interested in losing it, so the money the United States spends on the military is nothing compared to what they will get back The United States spends 686billion on the military. Europe spends 186billion. The United States pay 500Billion more than Europe. If you divide that number by the 47 European countries, you get 10billion. That is absolutly nothing all the European countries are able to pay that with no problems The welfare system works just fine with or without the military from USA....my calculation proves that. The funny thing is USA pay alot more for healthcare than Europe... Dont take my words for it you can find all the numbers on Google Dont get me wrong we appriciate everything that USA does its a fantastic nation with lovely people :)

[@pratikpanchal9060]

@@ss-lz4me Yea, but still the system is in favour of Europe,cause all they have to is do is sign on the cheques,make payments and boom there you have it your shiny F35s with hell fire and aimraam missiles and shit. USA also has to pay for their military bases in Germany etc. I was highlighting the fact that EU has money,it can pay more if it wants to in defence.I agreethat healthcare spending actually needs some sort of heavy reform.

[@Bluesvxbe]

@@ss-lz4me trump says everyone should pay their fair share

[@ss-lz4me]

@@Bluesvxbe You´re right i agree.

[@sebastianschoneberg6053]

Look at those students getting an answer straight to their face

[@PixiBoii]

Of course we are not socialist, but our welfare and large public sector, member owned insurance and pension savings are based on socialist ideas and have proven to work.

[@leonardoplaza7677]

Not completely. If you return to the state owning the money makers you'll be suffering the same consequences of venezuela

[@PixiBoii]

​@@leonardoplaza7677 what does that have to do with Denmark?

[@recentfootballnirvana9862]

UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE AND EDUCATION IS NOT A SOCIALIST IDEA. It is just being owned by socialists

[@leonardoplaza7677]

@@PixiBoii It has to do with any country. Look how US is suffering inflation because they started printing money like Maduro did

[@PixiBoii]

​@@recentfootballnirvana9862 Just a thought experiment: These are democratic, people-owned workplaces and services. What if all workplaces and services were like this? That's what socialism is. But what if only 99% of workplaces and services were democratic and owned by the people? Is it no longer socialism, is it capitalism now? Still socialism? What about 90% Where's the line being drawn? To me, socialism and capitalism are two different kinds of economies that can exist alongside each other. Nothing is ever fully one or the other.

[@robertcain3426]

Its just terminology. Compared to the US, Norway is a socialist country and it sounds like leader of the country is inferring that Norway must go down the US path as Australia did at the end of last century with lower quality of life outcomes.

[@S3Mi87]

Yeah, it's just definitions and meanings. Who cares about that? Definitely not marxists spewing lies left and right. Newflash for you, Norway just like Denmark is not socialist. It takes extra stupid to make such a claim under such a video.

[@robertcain3426]

@@S3Mi87 What i meant by 'just definitions' is that everyone ascribes a different meaning to these terms rendering them meaningless.

[@robertcain3426]

@@S3Mi87 the road we drive on is the outcome of a socialist ideal. Likewise taxes collected, however large or small.

[@MrCalls1]

Those using this to argue against and for Sanders’ programme a missing the point. The label is irrelevant, capitalist, market eco promo, welfare state, social market economy, Democratic socialism, social democracy. Sanders’ platform mimics the policy actions of Denmark. He is for universal healthcare, universal ‘preK-university’ education, for a strong safety net, increased time off, and labour protections. Whether he or anyone else attaches one label or other, it doesn’t matter, you can’t use the fact bernie calls it Democratic Socialism, in contrast to the PM of Denmark, as a reason. You can disagree with the policies, btu if you invest all in the label, you’re just misguided and missing the whole idea/end-product of politics.

[@DocJoby]

100%. People will use the narrative in this video to push the idea that Bernie Sanders can't give credibility to the word "socialism", "BERNIE is NOT even a socialist!!!" The same people will call Bernie a "communist" if their agenda is to discredit Bernie. No consistency in that area... I'm with you, we should be looking at policies, not broad overarching labels.

[@TheUnivera]

Denmark also has closed borders and a homogenous society. It is comparing a bowl of apples to a swimming pool of fruit cocktail. There is none.

[@earthrot666]

the whole time i was listening to this i was just thinking, "well that's what bernie and those that vote for him (myself included in 2016 and possibly 2020) want, so who cares what it's called?" i also think it's very noteworthy when he says he wants to decrease the taxes on labor, specifically on the lower income citizens, but not to the level of the US which is unrealistic. this is hardly the right wing "smoking gun" it's being touted as, but it is a very good and interesting watch. appreciate the upload!

[@DocJoby]

@Dragos Const Bernie does not often advocate that the government should own the means of production, he just proposes heavy taxation and regulation of the private industry. This discussion cannot actually be black and white; by taxing profit and manipulating the production of the companies via regulation the government is controlling the means of production.

[@bencrawshaw1227]

I would like to have the same system that Denmark has had. Wealthare safety net. Free education free healthcare. You can pretend that this success is capitalism if you want but you can't get away from the fact that these are socialist policies. Take a look at the most uneven society on earth the Netherlands that's real capitalism.

[@michaelcriollo1420]

Just a reminder.. Free Health care was a right wing idea.. From Bismark hundred years ago.... Isn't socialist at all.... Guaranteed minimum income was proposed by Milton Friedman a libertarian. And free education was also proposed by social democracy ideology or Christian if I'm not mistaken... Uneven society isn't a problem if people get good opportunities.. Netherlands might have problems to solve but then we have Ecuador.. We aren't that uneven but we are all poor and our welfare sucks and is being paid by getting into debt with China.

[@bencrawshaw1227]

No point in reminding me about things that happened before we were born. Free healthcare was not a right wing policy. It was a left wing government that brought free healthcare to Britain. Free healthcare actually isn't free and can never be free because people have got to get paid. The NHS is paid for mostly by taxation although originally, you were still expected to pay what you can afford towards treatment but the main principal is to he free at the point of service. In my case my mother had to pay towards a mastoidectomy when I was young.

[@bencrawshaw1227]

@@michaelcriollo1420 Milton Friedman was a pseudo intellectual, and was against social welfare policies proposed by socialists at the time, he wanted to privatise the wealthare system and cut it back, so please don't tell your lies on my thread.. Also if your capitalism is so great how do you explain the fact that some years In to Brazil adopting capitalism, the government relaxed environment laws leading to an area of the Amazon rain forest the size of Monaco being burnt down for for beef production. Cutting down the lungs of the world put in its place green house gas emitting agribusiness is quite frankly suicidal and insane.

[@michaelcriollo1420]

@@bencrawshaw1227 definitely brazil is the example I'd use if we were talking about capitalism... No Switzerland, Australia, Uruguay or New Zealand

[@szabo50]

I would not bother working .

[@MoyaBrennan6825]

homey That’s not how it works sweetie. You can’t sit around and not work and still get money, unless you got in an accident that left your whole body paralyzed. They will force you to work.

[@agesilausii7759]

@@MoyaBrennan6825 I don't know About Denmark, but in Germany some People Play sick to not work and get the Benefits. There are People who dont work for years but get Benefits claiming Depression and what not. Sure, much better System Than USA but it has many drawbacks as well.

[@god-of-war-fan]

where's vaush, all the lefties, etc.?

[@giuliom3564]

The problem is that "leftists" in USA would be right wing in Denmark. The welfare is strong and wages are much higher.

[@god-of-war-fan]

@@giuliom3564 lmaooo, no they wouldn't. danish/scandinavian people hate lefties like vaush / hasan piker etc. even in scandinavia, there are plenty of right-wing parties that would be considered to be right-wing in the US as well. these people haven't lived under actual socialism and continue to propagate it. thing is, these lefties, they are dirt. their ideology died a bad death in the autumn of nations. all they can do now is whine.

[@god-of-war-fan]

@@thatoneuser8600 are you danish?

[@thatoneuser8600]

@@god-of-war-fan nvm Bernie Sanders is definitely a socialist deep inside - his M4A bill wants to eliminate private healthcare which is something Scandinavia doesn't do, so yeah he's probably leftist in Scandinavia if he's for socialism when Scandinavia isn't socialist. He also calls himself democratic socialist which I thought he was always wrong for mislabeling himself and actually meant to call himself social democratic, but looking at his policies makes me think he really is a socialist deep inside, which I don't like one bit. But no I just saw Danes saying he was centrist, but I think it was misjudgment on their part since Bernie is always advocating for the Nordic model, but if you dig deeper in his policies you realize they don't follow the Nordic model at all ($15 minimum wage proposal even though Scandinavian countries have $0.00 min. due to strong labor unions? Higher corporate taxes when they have roughly the same amount we have? [After Trump in 2018]), so they may not have dug deeper

[@god-of-war-fan]

@@thatoneuser8600 taxation is theft imo. imagine the government taking away 50% of your earnings. smh

[@thatoneuser8600]

Is Denmark's economic environment either: 1. Market capitalism 2. Centrally planned capitalism 3. Market socialism Because I'm so ducking confused, especially after seeing a document saying that Sweden was centrally planned capitalism.

[@michaelcriollo1420]

If they have free markets (they do) then is state capitalism.. As it is easy to set up a business but government might intervene in very few cases. Never tho. They are the freest countries thus the most capitalist.

[@AlxzAlec]

Well now it is

[@keyshiasistah]

“The lowest tax rate is approx. 36% up to a marginal income tax rate of 51%.” Working and Living in Denmark Tax 2019, Deloitte Dr Joby, do you enjoy spreading misrepresentations? Is Trump a liar? Don’t get me started on Danish political parties..

[@MrPattevlin]

Trump doesn't know how to tell the truth. Lying is 2nd nature to him. Even when he doesn't need to. 16,000+ lies to date. How can you tell if Dumpy is lying? His lips are moving.

[@TriLe-nz4oq]

@@MrPattevlin and yet when you say he doesnt need to, you still cant see the bs the left throwing around. Lol which is more sad. You or trump? Haahahahhaah

[@MrPattevlin]

Ah, yes. The tried and true RW response. Gaslighting, "what about" ism, blaming someone else for the very thing you are guilty of and yet never denying that Dumpy is a LIAR! And you are a moron for supporting/believing him. AMF!

[@ryan.smith01]

Patrick Tevlin Can you show me where these lies are counted?

[@TriLe-nz4oq]

@@MrPattevlin funny then you are a democrat. A suppoter of slavery and the kkk. Thats democrst history look it up when you have the chance. Lols

[@sunSherifAhmDRose1QuIST]

American agencies are across the sea supporting the regime of Kingdom of Denmark. In kingdom of Denmark last year I got a visit from 3 secret policemen to my home, because of mine online comments, the Crown's police told me that I was dangerous and they took my computer and mobile phones and 10.000 dkr in cash and my passport and health care card, and they kidnapped me from my home without at all informing my family for the next 6 days about where was it that Crown's police took me away, the policeman without any reason or warning had hit me in my face and so I was bleeding all over the floor in my home, after the Crown's police took me away from my home they imprisoned me for the first time in my life in some closed psychiatric hospital for several months without ever presenting me in front of the Judge (and at that time they as well didn't want to give me a lawyer for a very long time) , and the police instructed the psychiatric staff to write in my papers that I was "dangerous" so that the next one psychiatric staff or the next time police would treat me less humane as if I was really dangerous (they might even shoot me without any warning some day in the future, and they always go free). At the end (which I discovered only several months later while reading the accusation, because they initially didn't even inform me about their accusation) the Crown's police invented one whole scene as if it was me the one whom attacked the police (which I didn't at all), and so I have to go to the court some day in the future for accusation about something which I didn't do but I can not prove it because there were no witnesses in my home, and the judge and even my lawyer usually trusts to the police in nice uniforms. No one informed me that I actually am living as if in 1960'ies Latin Amerika or in a communist absolutist 1 chamber parliament kingdom . I would so much like to ask Bernie Sanders a few questions, about that gratis health care bill at the psychiatry hospital with very often blood tests.

[@ScottWarnerMusic]

PM Rasmussen saying Denmark isn't socialist and then calling it a welfare state is hilarious.

[@DocJoby]

I assume he's operating under the definition that socialism involves government ownership the means of production.

[@ScottWarnerMusic]

@@DocJoby That would be communism, not socialism.

[@DocJoby]

@@ScottWarnerMusic communism is often seen as 100% ownership, socialism as partial ownership. It depends on the circles you on in when it comes to definitions.

[@ScottWarnerMusic]

@@smogunner That would be Marxism.

[@Yakubstopguy]

ah yes, another one of these socialist believing that he knows more about denmark than the PRIME MINISTER OF DENMARK SHIT

[@FutureLaugh]

America, you want all these benefits- you PAY for it. Stop thinking that someone else will pay, YOU will PAY and when you do, you will WAIT.

[@DocJoby]

Pay for what? And wait for what?

[@FutureLaugh]

@@DocJoby pay high taxes, like the countries that offer universal healthcare. Pay high taxes, and then wait 6 months to a year to see a specialist or get an mri

[@thatoneuser8600]

@@FutureLaugh 9 out of 10 Danes are happy for paying their taxes because they know where it goes and like the direction. Denmark is also #1 in the corruption perception index, meaning they trust their government more than any other country's citizens. That means that higher taxes aren't inherently bad, especially since Americans pay a lot for what ISN'T taxed anyways, such as healthcare and education.

[@FutureLaugh]

@@thatoneuser8600 9 out of 10 slaves were perfectly happy living on the plantation, because they didnt know what slavery was until the ones that escaped told them. Youre telling me people dont mind being borderline poor, as long as they have some pathetic version of a govt service; cool dood. Maybe I want a system that allows me the possibility of climbing the economic ladder. In Denmark, the average household net-adjusted disposable income per capita is USD 29 606 a year (US is 45 284 a year), lower than the OECD average of USD 33 604 a year. But there is a considerable gap between the richest and poorest - the top 20% of the population earn nearly four times as much as the bottom 20%. www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/countries/denmark/

[@thatoneuser8600]

@@FutureLaugh "they didnt know what slavery was until the ones that escaped told them" Denmark is consistently the top one or two happiest countries in the world, US is #18 right now and it's been decreasing. And I've already mentioned that Denmark is #1 in CPI (Corruption Perception Index), which means Danes trust their government more than any other citizen from any other country "Maybe I want a system that allows me the possibility of climbing the economic ladder." Perhaps you didn't realize that Denmark already achieves this better than any other country since they're the #1 country in social mobility, US is #27 "average household net-adjusted disposable income per capita is USD 29 606 a year (US is 45 284 a year)," Yeah, DISPOSABLE. What America doesn't pay in taxes, Danes have already paid for, such as healthcare and education. The #1 cause of bankruptcy in America is the abnormally high medical bills. "But there is a considerable gap between the richest and poorest - the top 20% of the population earn nearly four times as much as the bottom 20%." The US Gini Index in 2017 is 0.39/1, Denmark is 0.26/1, so Denmark has less income inequality by 0.13 points (one-third less).

[@msheart2]

A rose by any name is still the same. #Agenda21

[@aeirsone9045]

Trump2020

[@athalaparlambang50]

No matter what you guys are, a socialist, a capitalist. Think about what Capitalism and Socialism has brought us. A Capitalist created a laptop/Computer, you might see it as useless, but some use it for job purposes, and that device can give you Job Opportunities. The socialist decided the Price of the laptop/Computer so it can be more affordable for some. Both contributed for you in order to get a job, with the laptop you can be an author, a Journalist, a blogger, an influencer etc. Second example. The Government builded a Hospital, and they used private companies to fill the Hospital with beds, medicines etc, and the socialist decided the prices so everyone can get free healthcare (that can lead people to laziness, but at least it saves people). Both has saved people’s lives and cured diseases. Im a capitalist, you are a socialist, we can work together to make a good world!

[@magnusorn7313]

do you have any idea how much of the technology in modern technology comes from the military and other government funded research programs? you wouldnt have laptops and computers, not even the internet

[@ViktorScberg]

@@magnusorn7313 where is the internet and technology come from? Yeah right US !!

[@magnusorn7313]

@@ViktorScberg internet was literally invented by the military which is state funded try again

[@magnusorn7313]

@@ViktorScberg also do you not see how dumb it is to say "tEcNoLoGi CoMe FrOm UsA, uSa InVeNtOr Of AlL tEcHnOlOgI" it just shows h a biased and ignorant worldviev its like saying "all engineering comes from germany" you see how dumb it would be for someone to believe that? i shoudlnt be talking to someone as dumb as you

[@ViktorScberg]

@@magnusorn7313 oh you put engine and technology on the same category ?! You must be dumb

[@AnthM33]

Gross. Just gross. Vehement baseless anti-socialism rhetoric in the first few seconds.

[@devotaaffe193]

So communism then!

[@98Dreadboy]

It's not communism it's literly the same capitalist model that you use in the u.s the catch is that the people of denmark just pay WAY more tax that the goverement uses for services such as "free" health care and school. This could be inplemented in the u.s too but it's far from communism.

[@ourdesirevevo5746]

Trump 2020

[@kallum6823]

To be fair Nordic countries are extremely under populated. Some of these social programs will never work in the USA. Even universal healthcare would cost tens of trillions over the next decade. It’ll be a heavy cost you cant afford.

[@AnthM33]

The US spends more per capita on health care than Denmark does.

[@giuliom3564]

@@AnthM33 Because in USA health is a business while in Denmark is a human right.

[@25taylorkw]

Having a universal healthcare system is more beneficial then having for-profit health insurance companies and massive pharmaceutical companies price gouged the whole healthcare sector, for example there been research that a single-payer system would save at least 2 trillion dollars then our current system, not to mention everyone have universal coverage without going into medical debt.

[@localscalper9008]

Social democracy really. Not pure socialist as that is suicide, but still very much so socialist.

[@bradwhitt6768]

Socialist in the sense for citizens not so much for corporate entities. Their corporate entities pay less in tax than US companies. Most of their tax income comes from individual citizens. They tax citizens so much owning a car is for the extremely wealthy.

[@matiasrisso5917]

@@bradwhitt6768 In Denmark they have one car roughly every 2 people. Doesn't sound like only for the extremely wealthy, considering it's such a small country and bicycles and public transport are very common.

[@matiasrisso5917]

Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy. Therefore, they ar enot socialists, as he state they run a market economy.

[@steen275]

Denmark is not socialist, its a Capitalist free market. and the average Danish person makes 36% more than the average American.

[@brothersandsistersofvalhalla]

Anyone who knows economy and marketing knows he was reading a script because half of it didn't make any sense. He literally said Denmark wasn't socialism and was far from socialism than went on to talk about the ways Denmark was socialism. This is why Danish politicans should never talk economics. They look foolish. For the record, I am Danish.

[@brothersandsistersofvalhalla]

@Gap Rame Mlon Eusk I think he was reading a prepared script that perhaps he didn't even write. Regardless the Nordic system is half socilaism and half captialism so to say it's far from socialism is objectively false.

[@brothersandsistersofvalhalla]

@Gap Rame Mlon Eusk Not at the moment since its being curtailed by the competitive market. In simple terms, creating a monopoly is next to impossible. Maybe in the future but right now people are content with how things are.

[@LiberatedMind1]

No, it made perfect sense, it was just over your head. Denmark's core economy is not socialist, its a free market with minimal price controls, no minimum wage etc. On the other hand it does have high taxes and a welfare state that comes a long with that. And no it is not half socialist, it ranks along side the US in terms of economic freedom : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_economic_freedom

[@pejmul10]

Thats not what he said lol he explained how their system works. So what if he was reading a script? Politicions read their speeches from their script all the time, its just smart so that way you dont miss any points.

[@TriLe-nz4oq]

Lols funny you have a free education yet dont know that your economy is 100% free non regulated. You aint danish... stop lyin.

[@kirstinetermansen7234]

It's moopster,,,, from 2ww, there a black oconmy Wictim of this, with lots USA EU trades Then, you,, might be, looking for a exil if not hurt more I was frankly before Ddr wall frighten for Kgb, I was moopster, hurt, and kgb tortured Who is worst, moopster Danes for sure

[@hellothere9407]

Kristine, learn to write sensibly, and then come back to say what you want to

[@magnusorn7313]

yes, we are a social democracy which is sort of what bernie campaigns for ie. social welfare like healthcare, collective bargaining, transparency in government all that sort of trade unionist/labor movement stuff

[@yiqianyang6945]

Well, you just can't accept socialist. Denmark does great on free medical treatment and free education, lower tax for their labor,etc. That's socialism, no matter what you name it, the inner thing is socialism.

[@sebastianschoneberg6053]

Yiqian Yang There is also Rhine capitalism, Denmark uses it. It was founded by Germany after the Second world war. It isn’t Socialism.

[@sebastianschoneberg6053]

Yiqian Yang Don’t take it the wrong way, I don’t hate you. But not all Economy is socialist if there are social policies,just like Calling China capitalist, but at the end of the day the government is socialist.

[@ViktorScberg]

You're a fool socialist who get triggered by the fact lol

[@arthasmenethil2201]

They apply authentic free market capitalism to do socialism. rEEEEtards want socialism with inkjet printed money and high taxes without private means of production. Colapses. "It wasn't real socialism!!"

[@jameshumphreys9715]

What, he is describing to me is socialism, if universal health, welfare are funded by the state and not by private non organisation, then I would call that socialism, but I wouldn't call it communism.

[@luiz918]

Except that the state itself is funded by the private sector. If the public sector spends more than it receives from revenues, or if tax burden becomes so great that investments no longer are made made in that country, everything comes to a halt. Economic freedom and fiscal discipline, more than simply the idea of perpetually raising taxes to increase revenue. That is the main difference from Nordic countries to other European ones such as France or Greece.

[@jameshumphreys9715]

@Wade when you say, the government forcibly takes your money, you mean, you hate paying tax in other words, yet this is done before you get paid, you don't see it physically come out, not in the UK of course.

[@jameshumphreys9715]

@Wade why don't you work, so your annual income is less than what you have pay in tax, e.g if it is 12,000 then work till you only have 11,990 then you don't pay tax. You say you want a flat tax, but describe tax as forcibly taking your money.

[@jameshumphreys9715]

@Wade In the UK, you only pay income tax, if you earn a certain amount a year, so anything under that, they can't tax you, so therefore your not violating the law. Which point do you mean.

[@matiasrisso5917]

Or maybe you can grab a dictionary and read the definition of socialism: Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy. Nordic countries are, as said by the man, market economies that finance those public services. They are not socialists, get over it.

[@handelnuremberg8757]

This video is ridiculous. Of course you pay for everything. It's call mega-high personal tax (40%) and even higher double taxes. If you start a business you pay 60% tax. So time to get real Lars Løkke.

[@keyshiasistah]

Denmark is definitely socialist. Notice PM Rasmussen never once said that it wasn’t. He said that the economic model is not.

[@sweetlilmama54]

Denmark is definitely not a socialist economy, it is a market economy. Better re-watch that video 🤪

[@senbontorii2680]

Socialism is an economic system. If the economic system isn't socialist, it's not a socialist country. Denmark doesn't have a socialist economy, therefore it isn't socialist. Its that simple.

[@theboringprogrammer4444]

wtf are you brain dead?

[@samclark123]

0:20 ...

[@theboringprogrammer4444]

​@@samclark123 You can really tell he didn't watch the video at all because the PM said that Denmark is not a socialist planned economy TWENTY SECONDS IN.