HG-P407- Bruiser Wheel Options

[@catxls1835]

Excellent video and well explained. I didn't expect it to be this difficult to change the wheels on my P 407 but at least you have shed some light on the issue!! Thank you!! Thumbs up.

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

Glad it helped you, I always try to share my ideas for others to help their builds.

[@briandavis1367]

im working on a Hg 407 myself i also have a set of the rc channel axles and the xtra speed 2 speed tranny saving up now for the rc4wd v8 most of what im doing is inspired by you and this channel thank you for the vids the info is priceless

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

Thanks! I'm glad that my videos inspired building your project and it sounds like it's going to be a killer truck! I will keep the videos coming,

[@nhansme]

Great informative video as usual 👍👍 Both my restored bruisers run perfect thanks to your advice.Thank you 🙏 Looking forward to the transmission video

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

Thanks ! I'm happy things worked out and I will be doing my transmission video soon.

[@sophie28ize]

Thank you!!! A lot of work money and time went into that. I always wondered why there wasn't a 12mm adapter or something. Now i know why. Thanks For Sharing!!

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

Your welcome, yea I Wished they had upgraded the axles unless they have a upgrade planned down the road we don't know about .

[@jimfeeney9499]

Watching & learning!!!

[@drifter503]

Excellent video

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

Thank you very much!

[@mikejones4801]

Hi Denny very nice wheels can you tell me what wheels and tires those are

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

The alloy beadlock wheels are from rc4wd.com and the tires are the proline super swampers.

[@mikejones4801]

Hi Dennis I ordered the true scale wheels for my hg-p407 but what bearings do I need to make them fit Thanks

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

@@mikejones4801 The first edition of bruiser or blazing blazer bearings fit them, or skate board/roller blade bearings are the same, you can use your hg-p407 bearings and the spacer also.

[@qdog1019]

So Dennis so you think Clodbuster wheels and tires will Work on the clone truck ???

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

I have had them on the clone, it doesn't steer to well unless the front servo mod is used.

[@HalloweenJack1000]

Also, is there any chance that you could provide some info on how the RC4WD Blazer mounts to the Hgp407? Are you using magnets for this? Many thanks as always.

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

Yeah I will do a video on how I mounted it for you, the rear mounts are a direct fit but you need to cut a square hole for the on/off switch, the front I used some flat aluminum strips and bent them in a U shape and used velcro to mount the body.

[@HalloweenJack1000]

@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol many thanks, that's very good of you sir!!! Look forward to learning more about the front mount.

[@Modifier-RCs]

Very interesting video, this chassis has potential to be a great running RC. Just need to be patient and plan ahead before taking parts apart. I have a one of these. I'm currently giving the body a new scale look interior and balsa wood / rods bed floor. Chassis has Ampro parts for front servo mount giving chassis better steer, has one piece aluminum rims with Austar soft truck tires.

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

I really like these chassis for building I have done several from nitro to over powered brushless set ups. your build sounds really cool with all the scale upgrades!

[@Modifier-RCs]

@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol thanks. I'd like for you to check out my work in my channel here, and in Facebook Anthony G. Vargas (RC Hobby Modifications). Also, send me a message to send a friend request.

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

@@Modifier-RCs I will check out your builds, I don't get to use Facebook much but I will hit you up.

[@countmurcielago9802]

Hi Den I had another idea about them ARB axles rather than filling a small flat on the axle shaft could you not make a small plate from alloy like a lowering block with a crescent shape for the axle to sit in and small indent to sit on leaf spring as a locating hole what you think.

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

That's a good option and it saves the axle from weakening.

[@krowe33]

Do you have a link to the axles you bought?

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

I bought both sets of axles on ebay, search crawler axles on there and many different ones come up.

[@raphaelgauthier7481]

How does the trans and motor assembly mount i bought a project. Hg p407 with a few things missing :/!

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

The front of the transmission has a bracket that mounts to the frame rails and the back cover of the transmission has two 3mm holes that have rubber grommets that fit in the 2 holes on the center crossmember

[@raphaelgauthier7481]

@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol these parts available on the market i mase custom mounts out of alluminum but unshur if it will stiff enough :\ now to have a friend 3d print a body in hope i can make a braket for it ! Still gotta find a motor and esc any suggestions would traxxas stuff fit ? I have an ezpeak charger wouldnt wanna change my charge station for this on rc :(

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

@@raphaelgauthier7481 The parts are all over ebay , just search tamiya bruiser or hg-p407. the traxxas electronics will work fine.

[@raphaelgauthier7481]

@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol i fear ive come to find out the peice i need is sold with the frame :(

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

I see some stray pieces on ebay but even if you have to buy a frame the hg-p407 chassis are about 40.00 with all the crossmembers and front motor mounts.

[@jimfeeney9499]

This may be a dumb question, but to run the RC4WD wheels or real Bruiser aluminum wheels on the HG-P407 you need the big bruiser bearings in the wheel then you omit the hubs and run directly on the axles and tighten with the 3mm nut correct? Any idea where to source the big bearings? Thanks 👍

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

hi, No problem Yep you can just remove the hub bearing and spacer from the hgp407 hub and transfer them to the true scale rc4wd wheels then omit the hubs and bolt the wheel on the axle with the 3mm nut , you don't need the bigger bearing but if you want them the number of the bearing is ABEC-3 608ZZ They sell them online just search the number and amazon has them ,

[@jimfeeney9499]

Dennis Dempsey thanks so much!

[@jimfeeney9499]

@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol Ok thanks. I thought the HG-P407 hubs were smaller than the 2012 Bruiser. I am just going to order the large bearings from Amazon and opt for the RC4WD beadlocks. I was going to change over to 12mm with the RC4WD conversion but I like the Bruiser being different.

[@brianwood9849]

Man you do it all with these nice RC rigs! Did you put the RC4WD Scale V-8 in one of your Bruisers? Love your channel!

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

Thanks brother Yea I have the rc4wd v8 in my plow truck with the scale r3 transmission and transfercase,

[@brianwood9849]

Dennis Dempsey Radio out of control , do you have the HG-P409? Guess they did another Tamiya clone of the Tamiya Hilux. I’m thinking of getting one, it looks just like the Tamiya. What are your thoughts about it? Thanks man

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

@@brianwood9849 They are a cool rc but I never got into the highlift series, they were a king hauler semi chassis with the hauler plastic transmission and yota and ford body on them , they have extreme arched leaf springs cheap shocks and plastic axles that handle really bad under all conditions, under any kind of power they oversteer to the left and bounce steer, I wanted to try to make a light rock crawler with the series by changing the wheels tires and electronics, don't get me wrong here all Rc kits are awesome heng guan started by coping the 3rd generation bruiser and a couple of other name brand kits, I Really thought there next copy would have been the Tamiya hilux or blazing blazer, I plan on buying the F-150 version because the rare body that started as the Tamiya Juggernaut,

[@brianwood9849]

Dennis Dempsey Radio out of control , thanks for the feedback bro. Is the ford clone body the same as the Ford Juggernaut? I’m wondering if HG will ever come out with a clone of The Long discontinued Tamiya Juggernaut Monster or maybe a Clod Buster. I don’t feel like it’s right copying all of Tamiya’s hard work over the years.....

[@HalloweenJack1000]

Hi Dennis, those Proline trenchers that you have - are they the 1170-14 version, which look to be 2.8" wheels with a 12mm hex? These ones: www.prolineracing.com/tires/trencher-2.8-traxxas-style-bead-all-terrain-tires-mounted-front.asp Many thanks!!

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

Yep those are the wheels and with the wide 12mm hex adapter they fit the HG-P407/Bruiser pretty good.

[@HalloweenJack1000]

@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol many thanks for clarifying. I've just picked up the RC4WD 12mm hex adaptors, so I'll order these proline too 👍

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

@@HalloweenJack1000 I don't think the rc4wd adapters will give enough clearance, I used the cup adapters they sell on ebay, they really widen the wheelbase and the deep offset of the proline wheels match perfectly, eBay item number:323670579629

[@HalloweenJack1000]

@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol many thanks - I will have a look at the alternative adaptors!

[@pfarraldcash6095]

interesting video👍 would be boring if everything fits right away. 😀 Do you pump your axles full of grease, against the wet? I'm interested because some people do it and some do not?

[@rodneyporterfield9257]

Hey there buddy, been looking at a new radio for my hg p407 because I noticed the 3 speed switch on the stock radio is not right and that's why I have been stripping the tranny gears. I would switch it to any gear and it would go past where it should have and I could hear the servo still trying to do something like I was flipping the switch. What radio do you recommend for it? It has a hobbywing esc if that matters with stock receiver still!

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

Yeah those stock radios are a joke, one will work flawlessly and the next one wont work at all, lol! I have been buying the Surpass hobby radios off eBay, they offer 4 or 6 channel setups incase you wanted to add options on the extra unused channels like lights or a winch down the road. last I checked they were around 40.00 for the 6 channel ones.

[@rodneyporterfield9257]

@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol thanks man much appreciated, I'm good when it comes mechanical issues but electrical I'm still trying to get the feel for!💯

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

@@rodneyporterfield9257 I still get stumped with electrical sometimes, I can do mechanical with my eyes closed, lol

[@Wannaridebikes]

My 407 I converted the steering to the front works great my old bruiser I can’t figure it out since servo hits the motor if I put a servo on it it does not work hits the axle any idea how I can out a servo in the front on my old bruiser

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

Yeah the old school bruiser was a challenge to fit the front steering, even if you put the servo under the front mount it hit the skid plate when the suspension compressed, Hot racing makes a alloy steering arm with bearings that replaces the stock plastic unit, these work really well, I use them on all my old bruisers.www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Racing-Tamiya-Bruiser-4x4-Aluminum-Bearing-Steering-Kit-TBR4808/273586925645?epid=19011373320&hash=item3fb30d304d:g:P7AAAOSw-FRcAQx9:sc:USPSFirstClass!02852!US!-1

[@MrWalter1234567890]

RC4WD makes a rear yota axle for the bruser and the yota2 axle fits the front.

[@kevinpearson3820]

Easy enough they just make wheel hub adapters now why change an axle that works great I mean unless it's cheaper to buy an axle fully done then wheel adapters but I haven't checked the price on both of them so I don't know? Let me know I have a Bruiser

[@MrWalter1234567890]

@@kevinpearson3820 I am looking for the rc4wd yota bruiser axle but can not find them. Rc4wd may have discontinued them. The spring mounts were spaced to fit the bruiser but the axle was the same hex to hex as the regular yota and yota 2.

[@mickeymouse9828]

Please link in the description the wheel rim

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

the web site for the wheel rim is RC4WD.com

[@christopherlastname7638]

I will say I lost my house in hurricane Irma with all my rc cars and trucks I contacted rc4wd and they sent my a brand new tf 2 for free there varie expensive and I still can't afford to get anything from them now because money is tight ! Rc4wd got my son and I back on the trails! I will always be a fan boy

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

Wow that was a devastating storm! starting over after must have been stressful, It was really cool of rc4wd to pay it forward like that. they are the ones who brought the crawler scene to life for us, I like that they sponsor so many events and shows, I am happy to hear your back on the terra firma with your son!

[@christopherlastname7638]

@@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol I was stressed at first but every thing just worked out ! I love this hobby it's a great way to relax and to teach my son how to use tools and take care of his stuff because if he brakes it he has to fix it ! I have been doing the rc thing from 1993 and just about every one I met when I was racing would give you the parts off there car so you can race that's why I want my son to do this it also gives me an excuse for my wife why I spend so much money on little trucks! I really like your channel you seem like a stand up guy ! I'm sorry about your son I can't imagine it happening to me ! I lost my mom when I was 16 and never had a father that's why I would never leve my kids there the best part of me !

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

The things we have to go through are a real test of our inner strengths i guess, Its really cool that your teaching your son ol school ways most parents just buy stuff for their kids and never teach them the value of responsibility, losing people in our lives isn't easy but it wakes one up to cherishing the family and friends we still have.

[@sdjb111]

Hey Denny, If you come up with a drawing for the hub, I have a little Machine shop in my back yard. And I can machine them. Let me know. SteveCinAZ.

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

Cool bro! I think adding a 12mm hex on the stock hub would open up a lot of options and still have the option of using the stock wheels.

[@notbuyingit8047]

5:33 my Mountaineer came with one way bearings in front.

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

I wonder if yours was an early release kit, I have seen both versions of hubs on that truck, Thanks for bringing that up I will have to research it further.

[@Ed-ty1kr]

Yeah I agree. The prices are over the top no doubt. You say RC4WD is expensive, which they are, but Tamiya is just plain stupid when in comes to the Bruiser or Mountaineer. Especially when the steering is a joke. First thing I did was remove that huge electronics box, and moved the servo where it belongs. Well one good thing was the Blazer body you snagged for 80+$. That gives me hope to check RD4WD more often. The prices keep me off t their that site, and scimming ebay for cheap Chinese knockoff 's. That I don't feel bad about buying, or have any loss of sleep over intellectual rights.

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

Yeah their has been tons of parts on ebay that were originally advertised by vanquish and rc4wd for a super low price, lol I always check rc4wd during the holidays for their sales.

[@olofs627]

I change axle end in front with tamiya part from stadium raider and drill 1,5mm hole in back axle and but 12mm hex

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

I heard of the front conversion and drilling the rear out for a pin, now I see RC4WD.com still sells the bruiser 12mm hex conversions. if you file 2 flat edges on the rear they will fit the HG-P407 clones also.

[@mikeymike3240]

Hi there, do you have any bruiser hex wheel adaptors that keeps the original wheel footprint, i bought a set, but they pushed the wheels out too much. I've got a hgp 407. If you are making the wheel adaptors that keeps the same footprint, I'd love to buy a set from you. I'd also buy the front servo mount as well. Imo rc4wd are rip off merchants, i personally refuse point blank to buy anything from them because of their pricing, and the paperwork you got in the box proves it. You are definitely a walking talking encyclopedia on the bruiser. Lol

[@dennisdempseyradiooutofcontrol]

I'm still working on a reliable hex adapter for the axles, everything I made either strips out or breaks guess I under estimated how much stress is on the hubs. funny you mentioned RC4WD price gouging the camo blazer body was 170.00 and the invoice was 69.00 that markup is ridiculous! when I figure out the adapters I will let you know,

[@tahustvedt]

You can 3D-print new wheelseasily. I designed these 2.2" wheels. 1.9" wheels will be up when I receive the 1.9" tires and finish designing them. cults3d.com/en/3d-model/various/accessories-for-tamiya-bruiser-and-clones

[@giathuanluu9041]

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[@kevinpearson3820]

This truck is what it is it always has been like this why try to change it to a trailfinder 2 or something different or blah blah blah. Why not just like this vintage truck the way it is it's vintage for a reason if you want something else that performs better get a RC 4 wheel drive Toyota or something else. This truck is supposed to be how it is it's not supposed to be like these brand new scale crawlers vintage is vintage for a reason if you don't like the way vintage drives don't drive it buy stuff new I just don't get it everyone wants to change modify and upgrade everything because it's not good enough well buy what you want first and then you'll know I bought this truck because I want it to be like this not because I want to change everything I have other trucks to have fun with how about this because it reminds me of the 80s when I was a kid. I don't know that's my rant for the week

[@jimfeeney9499]

I saw this mod to extend the wheelbase and widen the front track - Washers are 18mm x 50mm - kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZTFmJJsdsR2jqc