Denver SUCKS (why I left)

[@mycryptolingo5974]

I will be more direct, lol. The state of Colorado is fantastic; however, the city of Denver is now terrible. The cost of living is not worth it, and there’s not much to do in Denver. Between 2014 and 2019, Denver suffered from an identity crisis. Denver did not know if it wanted to be a college, hippie, middle-class, upscale, dangerous, or safe city. However, Denver is now officially an extended progressive version of Downtown Portland, Seattle, San Francisco, and LA. Denver's high cost of living and skyrocketing crime rate are not worth it for a boring city.

[@toadmuscle5084]

that certainly is abridged, but seemingly accurate. I didn't make it til late 2017, so I missed the early context, but definitely an identity crisis.

[@MichealJACKSON-ly6cd]

Denver sucked in the 80s 90s 2000s. Colorado is beautiful denver is a joke

[@axskifree]

Native here ;). I thought I’d hate your video but you’re totally right. The real crisis in Denver is the lack of identity due to the enormous transplant population. The entire city is a revolving a door of 20 something’s all wanting to move to a new city for 1-2 years to “find themselves”. A few of them plant roots, but the majority of them rent for 1-2 years then go back to where they came from. Thus, that has become the culture. “A place you go for a few years in your 20s”. Then they all stare at each other expecting the others to produce the “culture” that they’re craving, without realizing that they are the culture. Most people climb Greys and Torrey’s, get a ski pass for one season, then get bored and go home. It’s closer to studying abroad for a semester than it is committing to a new city.

[@toadmuscle5084]

lol honored to have one of the OGs hear me out, sorry for what we did to your city

[@axskifree]

​@@toadmuscle5084 lol no worries. I'm just ranting. Plenty of growing pains across other major cities too. Denver is just one of those cities that produces a high churn rate, which it makes hard for any sort of culture to persist. The "Native" bumper stickers have been around since the 1970s, and I think they're a cool throwback. To me, it's more about sporting some sort of cultural continuity in a place that is constantly changing and "belongs to no one" as you've said. (There's even one on the truck Red Dawn from 1984). I see how some could view them as anti-transplant, but ultimately I think they're a cool relic or a kind of vestige of "simpler" times before Denver and Colorado were really "on the map". (Note: I don't have a native sticker). Just my additional two cents. Edit: Before someone points out Denver's growth really exploded in the 1970's, I meant more of pre-2014 era where it was still a mid-major city, but people just called Colorado a flyover state and didn't give it much thought.

[@pacmanlives]

Pretty spot on my dude. I celebrating my 10th year here in Colorado. I am getting annoyed all the good local spots are getting pushing out these for high rise apartments. Looking at you Blake Street Tavern we had a lot of memories playing bar games there. I am only saying Black Street because it’s the latest victim. But a lot of them can not even afford rent and are having to move. Denver has had massive growth starting when they build Coors Field. Downtown was sketchy and had a lot of parking lots because they torn down a lot of the old building in the 70’s and 80’s from my understanding from my native friends. I am hoping we get. Good snowy year like the 82 and 83 to ward off the people who can’t hang. As long as I got a 6 pack of beer and a bottle of whiskey I will be fine for a few days snowed in

[@asajayunknown6290]

Denver has been transplants for 40-50 years. The difference these days is that the newcomers are looking for instance gratification. As others have said, if you want a culture, you have to commit to the place. That means stick around for at least five years, develop a framily. Dont spend every day texting your high school and college friends that live somewhere else. It aint easy, but thats how its done. Raised two kids, with no immediate family around. But we had our framily to lean on.

[@toadmuscle5084]

Family is everything. and yeah, I think deep down, denver was originally built on passerthroughs, never really grew out of that like some cities do.

[@thisiscoloradoliving]

The comparison about Denver being like that really hot person you are dating but things aren't really clicking and you know it's not going to be a long term thing, is spot on! I've been in the Metro for almost 6 years. I lived in Boulder for 1 year. Then moved to Thornton and work in Denver. There are so many things I love about living in Colorado (skiing, hiking, rockhounding, paddleboarding, super dog friendly, hot springs, cute mountain towns, etc). Yet, the cons are starting to get to me! Although the cost of living is high, my biggest complaint is that something is really off with the people that live here. The vibe is just really hostile!!! I just can't handle it anymore. The vibe has made me loss faith in humanity a little bit. I'm just not vibing with the community here at all!

[@evanc7043]

People in Colorado are either rude stuck up ass holes, or there non English speaking thieves and criminals, it has its upsides but the people are the worst

[@BenJohnston1993]

I live in Longmont. I lived in Wichita, Kansas for a few months in the spring of 2014. I think Longmont is much better than Denver. And I like your point about I-25 traffic and how people drive around like they have nothing to lose. What do these people do to occupy their time???? Other than driving that is lol. Also where do you live now?

[@colt3529]

🤣🤣🤣 "The Airport is just a short drive away to Kansas" got me! I am also a native and keep making these videos talking ish on Denver please so people leave my state or don't come here.

[@toadmuscle5084]

Lol I'll get to work

[@jenluvsplanes]

Native here 🖐 Colorado USED to be a place that a regular working class person/family could actually buy a house in. Not anymore! CA and other states residents/investment companies moved in at a record pace and bought houses most likely in cash.... and yeah we are now left with about a 40- 50% housing increase for no freaking good reason! Colorado is a very transient state.... they won't stay here very long.... they'll just move in disrupt, raise prices and move on. Our rainbow Gov who was supposedly born/raised in Boulder.... became Califonicated in college and moved back "home" to CO . So yeah... that pretty much says it all right there.... Californication.

[@yoshicoto888]

One nice thing about Denver is that it's not Aurora.

[@toadmuscle5084]

sometimes its hard to tell🤷‍♂

[@jjeverson2269]

I moved from the south east and ended up buying a home in a CO suburb. Outdoors are nice, traffic isn’t bad as LA or other major cities unless you go on I70 to hit the slopes, the city has potential but it’s run by idiots that siphon money from tax payers and give it to illegal immigrants. Idk what the mayor has done to the homeless but he did sort of clean it up I guess but made the city way more dangerous with illegal immigrants. Like literally the liberal run government values illegals over those who came legally like I did. The food scene I initially thought did suck but it’s really just hidden and you have to explore and find these places as the video said. If I was in charge of Denver and CO as a whole, I would probably make it more conservative in terms of economy, migration(make it easier for those who follow the rules and punish those that don’t) and also reduce the amount of slush funds that exist in government

[@assassindolphin2106]

I used to visit Denver and loved it and had no intention of ever moving here but here I am. I moved here for a job and once I get my time in (3 years I’m gonna transfer to Florida) this has created a why make friends thing. Denver is depressing for me. I don’t want to stay in a city that values others over people who pay the tax’s.

[@toadmuscle5084]

Yeah, I feel ya. I think something I've learned is it's always worth it to try and make friends. I've done the why make friends thing before, it's not a great feeling. I don't love denver obviously, but hopefully you find more joy in the rest of your time there.

[@jimschaffner1]

Well, a little late to the party, but better late than never. I lived in the Denver area from 1998 to 2003. And I didn't want to leave at the time, but I got caught at the tail end of the internet bubble bursting, lost my job, and had to move back to Omaha (yuck!). But no, I'm not from Omaha, just ended up living there. Not sure what it's like in the 20-odd years since I left, but your analysis sounds about right from what I remember. Now that I'm retired, I'd consider moving back to Colorado (though not Denver) except for the economics of it. Too expensive and I think CO taxes social security. I'd be better off living in west Texas and driving to CO during the summer to hit the mountains (I'm a hiker, not a skier).

[@toadmuscle5084]

What I've found that skiing is the only thing that CO offers that is second to none. Everything else can generally be found better or equal somewhere else, and Colorado can be enjoyed as a state to visit once of twice a year

[@jimschaffner1]

@@toadmuscle5084 Well, I have to respectfully disagree. As a hiker and peakbagger, the mountains there (especially the high 13ers and 14ers) are more accessible than other states. You don't need to go expedition style as you would in the Pacific Northwest or Alaska, and you don't need a permit. They're quite accessible to mere mortals without a lot of fuss or a multi-day trip. And there are just so many of them. Nothing against skiing, whatever floats your boat, but don't discount the hiking and climbing.

[@toadmuscle5084]

@@jimschaffner1 yep, 14ers forsure is another one. I spent most of my time of the trails in the foothills which is more what I was referring to, but 55 14ers is definitely better than anywhere else in the country

[@pacmanlives]

I laughed my butt off on the Ohio hate. Moved to Denver 10 years ago and will not go back and have a family here now. But you left out the second most hated group besides the Californian’s…. It’s the Texans

[@toadmuscle5084]

The Texans are funny, didn’t have as much experience with em and they were also a little harder to put in a box. There’s the rich Texans on the slopes and the woke ones trying to find other progressives, never had too much trouble with them myself lol 🤷‍♂️

[@scotttang6229]

lol. You are stating experiences in almost every major cities these days. Even Austin…. Believe or not. In some cases, houses in Austin are about the same if not more expansive than Denver.

[@toadmuscle5084]

Some of these things can be found elsewhere, but I've spent a lot of time in major cities over the past few years and haven't seen it like this. I would assume Austin is the closest thing, given how much of a hotspot it's become in the past few years.

[@tjlopez4273]

this is the realest shit ever. The midwestern people usually last a couple years and bounce... after a couple years of complaining

[@bikes4lifebaybee]

Tons of people move to Denver and are like “it’s not all it’s cracked up to be” but anyone from CO knows that it’s a flat, treeless polluted brown plain with overburdened infrastructure. Front range just generally sucks these days

[@apolluxs]

I live like an hour north of Denver, I used to want to move there so bad but there's like no culture there and the prices to rent anything are just unreal, especially compared year over year.

[@toadmuscle5084]

I’m a big Fort Collins fan, didn’t spend a ton of time there but loved the down town area. Some other good spots up north too 💪

[@tyreselovell]

I left when I had to start being careful when walking through grass or any obstructed ground because of needles

[@toadmuscle5084]

thats fair, a closed toe shoe city

[@1stdraft611]

Interesting LoL

[@yoaaauuiohheee7726]

good analysis