Depersonalization and Philosophical Thoughts

[@MalleCF]

Exactly this...DPDR is gone for long, but these existential/philosophical questions driving me nuts it feels like and i'm so tired of it :(

[@paigejones8474]

finally someone explained exactly what ive been dealing with

[@konstadinop8012]

Hi. nice to see a Chanel about dp-dr. I face it for 35 years non stop but never give up i just became dp thats who i am...

[@DRBur1991]

I was stressed > panic attack > DP > worry about going mad > Existential crisis (philosophical) 3 years still stuck in existential stage. It's much better than when it started but i'm still anxious at how futile life is. In the grand scheme we mean nothing so it makes everything seem meaningless. Why don't people really care about that? Why do I care so much?

[@devansh173]

Because they have other tensions in life and people who develop depersonalization are commonly deep thinker I had OCD before depersonalization

[@leslier8072]

I such needed this. Thankyou soo much

[@jaljal9772]

I suffer from dpdr since childhood.. I don't know what normal feels like.

[@livuair]

Due to the current state of anxiety and derealization, I instilled in myself such a worldview based on existential thoughts that all human activity in life is built on the secretion of certain hormones (or brain biochemistry, the essence is the same), so more and more I do not see the point in human relationships, in art, study, career, travel, yes and throughout life, because all this in the context of such thoughts is fake, ephemeral. Because of this, I experience a terrible depression, and it seems that I will never be able to be as happy as before. That this stupid "philosophy of nihilism" will become entrenched in my personality, and either I have to somehow morally come to terms with it, or I simply cannot do it, driving myself into an even stronger depression, and as a result - suicide. I already can hardly believe that these existential thoughts can let you go along with the anxiety and derealization, as other popularizers of the topic claim. This brings terrible moral torment. Still, other people in this state, it seems to me, at least hold on to something in their life, but I fell into such a pit, from which I see less and less a way out, and after all, only 3 months have passed since everything started. I feel wild guilt from all this, because if it were not for the smoked "joint", then I would be a happy person. Now I think that on the basis of such a destructive worldview for me and the whole condition in general, my life is ruined, because in the past I did not adhere to such a way of thinking, and it seems that this will be fixed in my new, not so good personality. Did we have something? What should I do in this case? And also, a often think about existencial thoughts like: "What is the meaning of the art of creativity? What does this activity give people?" You know, many people advise to be distracted by movies, TV shows, music, and so on, in order to shift your focus from monitoring your condition. But because of such thoughts, it is extremely difficult to do it. And, in principle, I no longer seem to understand how human society works. It seems that I am superfluous in it, but at the same time I think philosophically in the context that "everything is clear to me, and there is nothing else to do in this world." This is terrible.

[@ashleyriosrizo]

Are you better now dear soul?

[@Everything_Ends1337]

Same

[@spadethebarber8696]

Hey sammy i have had dp dr for over 9 months now. I have experienced everything you have mentioned. I have come to accept it in every way possible and id like to think im 80% recovered but the only thing that remains is me looking outside from inside my eyes and my short term memory is terrible. I have a daily routine i follow and stick to but these 2 things don't leave. Any tips for me ? Thanks!

[@RealSwamyG]

Things take time to heal. Some symptoms are the last to leave. Don't look at it like you're not 100% there. This is what I call the 100% recovery trap. People forget about how far they have come and only focus on how long they have still to go. This puts a lot of pressure on yourself and only makes you frustrated. Acceptance means being ok with experiencing symptoms and letting it be there for however long it takes.

[@ashleyriosrizo]

How are you now a year later?

[@mitchwhalen2320]

Spot on

[@julioculio]

Bless you 🙏

[@jbjb6897]

Swarmy, after DP, I lost meaning in everything in life such as careers etc. I think this ruined my life. What would you do to find meaning in life? I really miss the old, normal me.

[@habdelx.1]

Hi Swamy, I aswell have both DP and dr from the drug induced (weed) panick attack . Can I ask after all the symptoms you experienced with the identity issues, questions and these thoughts that you discussed in this video. Did you return to your normal sense of self and where you completely dpdr healed?

[@jessicaashton9861]

I like to think it’s the last stage, I feel pretty much normal apart from these thoughts going round my head 24/7- & sat ticking in my head 24/7 about how the world works etc but I don’t feel panicky or stressed anymore because I’ve accepted it’s just my DP/DR

[@cansu8906]

Swamy ji hi, may i ask ek sawaal, maaf ki jiye, i learned Hindi via Bollywood and tv series :)) My dpdr started 7 months ago and i dont feel depersonalization since last month. But i can't feel myself %100. Hain i have some feelings but i am not like old myself too. When i thought about recovery, if i heal, i thought i will feel myself suddenly, but it didnt happen. Lekhin thank god i am not feeling dp or dr. Phir bhi i wonder when will my feelings come back %100?

[@RealSwamyG]

This is the 100% recovery trap that I've talked about in other comments. Forget about 100% recovery, it will happen very slowly. The more you care abt 100% recovery, the harder it will be there... The less you care abt it and DPDR in general, the easier your recovery journey will be.

[@Justafayze]

sums it all up for me haha 2:33

[@CBTcounsellor]

has anyone here developed derealisation because of apeirophobia?

[@katerynakozachenko4779]

im from Ukraine but now in Germany, can you please recommend me where to find a therapist that can help me w dpdr?

[@v.n5622]

Hi Swammy, I have DP/DR for more than 5 years now. Since my relationship ended, i had a strange feeling about loneliness. Like were alone in our body. I dont want to sit with someone else in my body🤣, but the feeling like.. were lonely like always.. you can sit with 200 people but youre still alone in your body. I am afraid of that thought, and also the thought like, i cuddle with my girlfriend, and what if that is not enough anymore? Like, i love her so much, but we 2 different persons (and no i dont want to be 1 person, but the feeling is strange, if i cant live with this feeling, or I go through the meaning of exisme, how God made us and i am not made to be Human anymore) I dont know if we feel the same. I think im crazy because of this thoughts. And afraid that it never go away. Are these thoughts normale with dp dr? I think im going crazy. Never ever had philosofical thoughts, since 2 years now. Also afraid to transform into something or somebody. Also had OCD. Please help Swammy

[@ianmarban5243]

I have DPDR for more than a year now, I have these thoughts and questions like when i look at a person or things i don't see them as a person or things itself i tend to see them parts by parts like how's the size of their eyes, nose and head. Like i always have these questions of how can memoies gets stored inside our brains. Are these questions normal to people with DPDR? I'd really appreciate it if u'll be able to answer me swammy. Thank you.

[@leonhardreche8593]

Totally normal belief me ;)

[@ianmarban5243]

Have you experienced it too? I tend to question everything like every little details and it exhaust my mind huhu

[@leonhardreche8593]

@@ianmarban5243 Yes I Had this too. If you Accept it more this quentions will be not so frequent and they will vanish. You have this because you where cut off from reality and your mind tries to make Sense out of this experience. I know these questions are absolut scary, but with time they loose their scaryness. And you might are afraid of loosing your mind and loosing control. It will Take time and These quentions might be staying the longest. For me thats the Case. DPDR isnt Strong anymore but the questions are pretty heavy from time to time. Maybe you can See a therapist who helps you with these questions. Try meditation, for some months, that helps you accept these questions so you dont Fight them. Be Patient, better times are arround the Corner.

[@ianmarban5243]

Thank you so much! Same goes for me too. The feeling of disconnection with myself and the world is something bearable but the questions is draining my mental energy. I even came to the point where i think that this is not just DPDR but something else much worst. I'm so happy to know that i'm not alone. I already set an appointment to therapist but my sched is 2 weeks from now. I'll try to meditate too. Thank you so much my heart feels kinda light now. God bless.

[@leonhardreche8593]

@@ianmarban5243 Yes These quentions are super "normal". I had them so super strong and the only answers to all These quentions was: this cant be real, I'm Not real, the world is not real. I remember that i thought: These quentions are so fucked up and so komplex that they must be real or I'm loosing my mind or that I'am unable to "come Back" to reality because i went to deep down the rabbithole and found some Kind of "truth" about reality or whatever and that Nobody could have the same Kind of thoughts, like me. That i woke up from a dream and everybody else cant See what I'm seeing and i could never be Happy again with this truth. So maybe you found yourself in some of those questions. youre Not alone with this. Do some Sports Go outside, meet some friends. Your brain needs to process all These stuff and it needs some time.

[@dermalion6410]

Does anyone experience severe Deja vu?

[@thephonecalls9856]

Yes, it's normal and happens often in dpdr because your brain is so exhausted and processes everything slowly. Deep memories may pop out of nowhere, you may adapt to your environment slower. It is scary and unpleasant, but normal in this state. Remember it gets better