The beautiful disaster that is Mount Davis

[@marlenevan4661]

Does anyone remember what Angels Stadium looked like 30 years ago? The upper deck was completely enclosed for the Rams. Once the Rams moved to St. Louis, the outfield upper deck was demolished, and the Stadium was rebuilt, and now looks pretty decent.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

different shapes of the stands, Oakland is a circle vs. oval so unless the grandstand is demolished getting rid of Mt. Davis won’t matter because it’s still a crappy view

[@TheBatugan77]

Wasn't it for the Raiders?

[@mariocisneros911]

More than 30 yrs ago , in the 1970's with was beautiful with the GIANT "A" scoreboard just behind the outfield , that was beautiful. Sort of like Kansas City and their scoreboard

[@redpillfreedom6692]

@@TheBatugan77 No, the Raiders played at the Coliseum during their stay in Los Angeles. The Rams had abandoned the stadium a few years earlier as the cavernous stadium was difficult to fill to capacity, resulting in a lot of local blackouts. The Raiders eventually began tarping off about 30,000 seats to avoid the same issue.

[@redpillfreedom6692]

Anaheim Stadium wasn't exactly "rebuilt" as the bulk of the original park pre-renovation was left intact. All they really did was remove a huge chunk of the outfield seating then added the rock pile in center field.

[@theawesomer8587]

The sad thing is that to build Mt. Davis, it cost the city half a billion total after paying interest on debt and bonds and stuff. They could've built 2 new stadiums in the mid 90s for both teams with that money.

[@thesmithersy]

And they are still paying it off today aren't they?

[@Fractalsandie]

bad BET; wrong team

[@toonces4x]

@@thesmithersy they are, which is basically the reason why the Coliseum ended up so bad

[@NeilTruick]

I live in Los Angeles. I remember taking some time off in Concord for a few days about ten years ago. I'd never been to an A's game, so I thought I would explore. I drove to the stadium, went to the box office, and bought a Field Infield seat for $35 for that evening's game. Cool. I didn't know exactly where the seat was, because I'd never been to the stadium. I went back to the hotel, got some lunch, took a nap, and took the BART to the stadium to avoid dealing with parking. The stop is literally right behind the Coliseum, and so I got in and looked for my seat. I ended up walking all the way around to the front, down a couple levels, and my seat was literally 8-10 rows behind home plate. I was shocked. I'd been to too many Dodger games where a seat that close would have run into the multiple hundreds. As jaded as I was about Major League Baseball around that time, that game was still a very pleasant memory for me. It felt like a throwback to an era long forgotten--the concrete presence was everywhere, the stadium resembled an oversized bunker, very little light bled through to the mezzanines, and the place looked like it hadn't changed much since the first World Series championship in 1972. I didn't care. I went to see a baseball game, and the game itself was pretty good. As long as the seats are comfortable (which they were), the food is good (which it was), and the game holds my interest (which it did), all the glitz and sparkle is just another excuse to raise ticket prices, regardless of how well the team is performing. I went back a few years later with my girlfriend, and an enjoyable time was had by all for just the cost of a BART ticket and a $35 seat behind home plate.

[@yumleyy]

haha yeah, last season i went to a game in a similar seat, field level 15 rows behind the visitor dugout. about $30 a seat for that. food was decent, seats were comfy, AND the game was good. shame that they will be leaving, but happy that they'll get a new stadium somewhere

[@roberthansen9694]

I paid $16 to attend four games of the 1972 World Series. It was a thrill to see Yogi Berra in uniform and see Willie Mays get his last base hit ever in a professional game.

[@highgate4767]

@@roberthansen9694 that would have been 1973.

[@roberthansen9694]

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[@roberthansen9694]

You are right. It's been a long time. Back in those days Finley was giving out free tickets. I would go to the games with my comp tickets and everyone around me would also have comp tickets. He always included the comps in the "paid attendance." The place wasn't even sold out when I went to the '73 World series. They were plenty of unsold seats. They were still the KC Athletics the first time I went to one of their games in Baltimore. Even that ticket was comp.

[@vrettos99]

honestly a franchise with such history its a shame they don't do what Wrigley did by practically renovating the structure from the bones out. play into the historical aspect of the design with a modern upgrade. at this point might as well look into the idea

[@jbj7599]

Wrigley was literally falling apart, so it was either that or tear it down

[@bostonrailfan2427]

they don’t own the ballpark and they don’t have the money to do anything nor do they care about aesthetics like entitles fans do

[@bostonrailfan2427]

@@jbj7599 …exactly as Fenway was, but with more money behind the owners than Fenway’s owners

[@satoncho]

Wrigley, Fenway, and Madison Square Garden are more legendary than this building.

[@DebitAdams]

The money and time to make it a good ballpark would cost more than a new ball park

[@abakella]

I think of Mount Davis as a creative idea that was implemented on the wrong side of the stadium.

[@kylebarber8409]

I sat literally last row on mt davis it was actually pretty cool u get a good view of the bay too

[@rattmausch]

I'm a Milwaukee Brewers fan but I have childhood memories of the Brewers in the AL playing at the old Oakland coliseum. Hate to see them leave Oakland. If they wanted to, they could tear down Mt.Davis and put some kind of roof around the upper deck. Really make the outfield be the centerpiece of the ballpark. I don't even think they'd have to do a whole lot to be honest.

[@karnubawax]

I used to go to A's games as far back as the mid-70's. At that time, Candlestick had a horrible reputation as a place of drunken, brawling, working-class lowlifes (frankly, a pretty accurate description), and Oakland was a much more family-friendly venue. I'm pretty sure the A's outdrew the Giants for many years. Mt. Davis really did kill this park. It was absolutely gorgeous and a joy to go to before then.

[@fantasticvoyage262]

It's a shame the Raiders couldn't get their own stadium when they went back to Oakland.

[@redpillfreedom6692]

Before Mount Davis this looked like a passable ballpark.

[@zcorpalpha2462]

I have been watching MLB for 40 years, I never seen the image at 1:40 before Amazing Thank You 😊

[@typorter-pp6lh]

I moved to the Bay Area just a couple years after Mount Davis was built. Been to many A’s games but never got to experience the original Coliseum. Locals say it was gorgeous.

[@cdeanda21]

Oh the bleachers in the outfield were awesome. Fans stomping their feet to make noise in rhythm. It was so much better and much more fan friendly.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

the only thing that changed was the addition of the football stands, idiots like that are what drives fans away

[@admirals818]

6:40 The "crap minor league stadium" is only a few years old and I've heard is quite nice. It only holds 10,000, but it's an improvement on what they have and what they're attracting in Oakland.

[@kjorlaug1]

The A's drew less than 700k last year. If they sold out the MiLB ballpark, they'd draw more than in Oakland

[@edwardwalter3100]

My first game was watching a very young Randy Johnson start for the M's as they took on my Athletics. I was super pumped and still remember the view of the East Bay hills as it was spectacular from our vantage point just behind home up one the first base side. Storm Davis set the club record in walks that day as the Mariners whooped up on the A's but I'll never forget the sights and sounds of the that day. Almost snagged a Rickey Henderson foul ball. Gonna miss them when they do finally move.

[@VoteAdnanShahab]

I am a lifelong Oakland A's fan. I was in high school while Mount Davis was being built, and I remember telling people before construction began that I was against it simply because it would make the stadium worse for baseball games. I went to a Wild Card game between the Tampa Bay Rays at Oakland Athletics on October 2, 2019. (We lost that game 5-1). Even though I am a huge A's fan, I was seated with all of the Rays' family and friends behind the first base dugout. I know for a fact that the top of Mount Davis was open for that game because I still have pictures from it. Announced attendance for that game was 54,005.

[@unidentifiedpanda3764]

I was there too! shame we lost that game

[@arthurcohen9390]

Mnt Davis completely destroyed baseball at the stadium. Being in the bleacher section was some of the best times there.

[@jlopez8719]

The AAA stadium in Las Vegas was rated among the top 5 minor league ballparks in 2022. Hardly can call that a crap minor league stadium. Also in 2020, the ballpark led the minor leagues in average attendance.

[@phightinphil25]

I presume he meant the former minor league stadium in Vegas, Cashman field. I do wonder how you would manage the schedule of two teams in the same park I guess one would have to be on the road and the other at home. Obviously late and early season are easier as the minor league seasons starts and ends before the MLB one.

[@tankerdriver6329]

​@@phightinphil25 Generally the Minor League team moves away when a Major League team arrives in the same sport.

[@phightinphil25]

@@tankerdriver6329 That is true, with some exceptions. For a while The Philadelphia Flyers had their minor league team play in Philadelphia also, albeit they played in the old stadium of the Flyers.

[@fabio40]

You keep saying in your videos the Coliseum is the last multi-purpose stadium. It's not. Rogers Centre in Toronto has been multi-purpose since it was opened in 1989. That is currently changing though with renovations over the next two years.

[@BigIronEnjoyer]

The A's did actually have Mount Davis open during the later stages of their record breaking winning streak in 2002. When I watched Moneyball it actually stood out to me that they show people sitting up there during Hatteberg's home run, and I thought "that's not right is it?" But looking the actual footage, sure enough there are people up there. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIGVanydbtODhNU

[@bostonrailfan2427]

they’ve stopped bothering because the team has shown that despite being good one year they’ll tank again because they’re inconsistent and management only cares about tight budgets and statistics not actually winning teams

[@tankerdriver6329]

I was sitting on Mt Davis when Hatteberg hit the homerun. At the time it was the largest crowd in A's history (55,528), and happened on a "Dollar Wednesday" ($1 Upper Deck Seats and Hot Dogs).

[@thesmithersy]

They only started tarping it in 2006.

[@willp.8120]

The Bay series was in 1989 before the seating was added.

[@edwardwalter3100]

I think he was referring to the annual inter-league matchups which always have more Giant's than A's fans.

[@joesakic91]

The A's, after Walter A. Haas died in 1995, and the city of Oakland have nobody else to blame, but themselves. I blame Oakland for not creating a baseball-only facility in 1995 right when Al Davis decided to move the Raiders back to Oakland from L.A. Seeing Oaktown letting Al erect Mount Davis put them in no-man's land. I blame the A's for not considering Jack London Square or Howard Terminal much sooner or even the East Bay outskirts like Fremont or Dublin, CA to build a baseball-only facility.

[@Boileryard]

"The next thing thats gonna be happening to Mount Davis is a wrecking ball" Made me chuckle

[@MelShibson]

Great video but I'm really curious as to how many times "Mount Davis" was said

[@al1976-v7m]

Yeah he seems quite obsessed by it.

[@RFE812]

@@al1976-v7mI’m surprised he didn’t mention the fact that Colorado’s lowest point is higher than Mount Davis.

[@theAvstheopps]

glad somebody finally made a video about this monstronsity

[@Erlov71]

Bleacher area looks like the Bluejays stadium. All it needed was some upgrades. Seats, paint, restrooms, screens etc.

[@selanryn5849]

The city of Oakland, and really the whole state of California, has made it abundantly clear that taxpayers aren’t covering the costs of pro sports venues. The teams can build their own facilities, like the Giants and Warriors did, or they can go beg some other city for a handout.

[@phightinphil25]

Which honestly, more cities and states should do. Why should the public have to pay for the one of the money making sources of a billionaire.

[@peace_clan948]

What an ugly monstrosity. I was an Oakland A's fan as a kid (McGuire, Canseco and crew). This thing is horrible. I agree...wrecking ball for sure.

[@JoyStickJester_]

40 year Oakland A's fan hurts because a couple years back they had a decent team but our owner sucks and just let's all the good players go and keeps the lowest payroll in the MLB. Fisher needs to see the team so that a new owner will come in and move the team to a state of the art stadium in Vegas.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

it’s not the owner, it’s the idiot front office who only cares about computer stats not actually winning long term

[@phightinphil25]

I am guessing that you aren't from Oakland or have accepted your fate if you want the team to be moved.

[@biglos9d]

I remember when they were building the thing... during one of the breaks between the top and bottom halves of the middle innings, they'd play YMCA and have construction workers (or dudes dressed up as them) dancing and singing along, and this happened all during that 1996 season

[@bebobebo4407]

The A's should really tear down Mount Davis and also reduce the foul territory on their field, turning the Coliseum into a baseball-only stadium.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

they don’t own the stadium

[@blizzardbros.]

They should add a second mt davis on top

[@RFE812]

Then Mt Davis would be higher than Colorado’s lowest point instead of being lower than it.

[@bloodorange6713]

Yeah they should tear that down. The stadium looked beautiful before its construction

[@dontedrake2316]

They removed it doing the playoff game it was awesome it was 64,000 it was awesome keep up the great content

[@ConfidentBald-sx9nx]

I am happy to fund the renovation of mt Davis

[@bullwinkle2380]

What do I think of Mt Davis??? It looks like howdy-doody!!!

[@chasesinclair1553]

Vanoss😂😂

[@karnubawax]

There's hope for the Coliseum yet! To my knowledge, Oakland is the only stadium in America with a field large enough to accommodate a regulation size cricket pitch. The IPL would make bank on an exhibition tour. You could even have a few international matches.

[@thesmithersy]

They have played cricket at Minute Maid Park and Yankee Stadium but yes, you probably could host a cricket match there. The IPL champions against the US national Team or some major international. Not for a test though, you wouldn't get the interest.

[@ericchartrand857]

Had mount Davis never been built the colosseum would be in a much better situation

[@kodyepidemic]

Why did they put seating there to begin with? They could’ve just put a cover or put a giant LED board along the length of the suites.

[@austindreyer2930]

I could be wrong but i have heard. Then found some info proving it. But didn't Mount Davis cost more to build than M&T bank stadium in Baltimore. I know it is California and costs are more.

[@austindreyer2930]

Or it cost like $20 million less than M&T bank stadium. Which is still considered a good stadium for its age.

[@RFE812]

@@austindreyer2930Interestingly Wild Turkey Rock(Mt Davis’ nearest higher neighbor) is also in Maryland much like M&T bank stadium.

[@aviveros887]

I’ve been up there. It’s super high and scary. Seagulls hang out at the top

[@CiaGuy]

it's not ringcentral coliseum it hasn't been that for a long time

[@princeofdarknessxyz1]

hopefully last home game for the a's they will open up the upper deck seats of mt. davis....hopefully i get to check it out...bought game ticket and didn't buy plane ticket yet

[@bostonrailfan2427]

the team doesn’t own the stadium, they have to put up with the seats despite whining from “fans” who are never going there and never saw a game there

[@trojansfan20]

Taxpayers there are still paying for the construction of Mount Davis

[@fantasticvoyage262]

Wouldn't it be too hot to play any day games in the Las Vegas minor league stadium?

[@adellis24]

'Some Crap Minor League Stadium'??? The Ballpark in Las Vegas is essentially brand new (opened in 2019) and is widely considered the top venue in minor league baseball.

[@willp.8120]

I'd say the Charlotte Knights have the best AAA stadium.

[@adellis24]

@@willp.8120 It may very well have the best view but the Vegas ballpark has vastly more amenities for both the players/staff & fans. Just based on construction costs alone (and they were only built 5 years apart) the Vegas ballpark cost $150m compared to Truist's $50m. Its obviously a subjective conversation in many senses but the bottom line is the Vegas ballpark is far from 'Crap'.

[@Davidjon1946]

5:20 only four stars in the sky ? Is that a ufo ?

[@princeofdarknessxyz1]

I think Mt. Davis should be a national landmark

[@WVF112469]

How many times can a moderator say Mt. Davis? Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum was the name we used when Reggie, Rollie and Catfish called it home.

[@saints093]

The A’s NEED TO STAY IN THE OAKLAND AREA & build a new stadium

[@sjdrifter72]

Mount Davis is nothing but a White Elephant just like the elephant mascot of the A's who will soon join the Raiders in Vegas.

[@charlesdarwin7253]

The Aucklin' Callasium sounds like an interesting stadium.

[@jakestar121]

forgot to edit out the little audio mistake at 4:33 . all good tho i edit videos as well so ik it’s an easy thing to miss lol

[@saints093]

The view from Mount Davis actually is a really nice view, wish the A’s could give the coliseum a HUGE renovation and modernize it BIG TIME, the A’s STILL BELONG IN OAKLAND!!!!!!

[@phightinphil25]

@Jose Ortiz Move them back to Philly, lol.

[@phightinphil25]

@Jose Ortiz I do actually think that Philly is a big enough market to have 2 teams in one of the sports, it just won't happen for logistical reasons. The leagues rightly want to be in many markets as possible, meaning being a top 5 or so US city in terms of population isn't enough to have multiple teams outside of LA (and LA seems to only support one of the two teams in every circumstance) and NYC.

[@phightinphil25]

Unless the MLB, NBA or NFL goes on an expansion frenzy like the MLS has. In that case it would be at least feasible but still unlikely as there are more completely untapped markets (In North America, let alone the never ending pipe dream by the NFL and others of European teams.) still to fill or refill.

[@marklarson601]

Can’t wait to see what the ballpark will look like when they move to Vega$

[@klax2919]

they should just tear down just the mt. davis part now its an ugly eye sore that is also a reminder to their sports fans that the raiders came back & left again. it would also give the baseball fans back the views of the mountains & give them a place to put the bullpens

[@bostonrailfan2427]

they don’t own it

[@klax2919]

@Boston Railfan the city or county should tear it down if the team moves to Vegas or into a new stadium it will probably be demolished anyways

[@bostonrailfan2427]

@@klax2919 not should: will. they have zero use for an empty stadium and it would best be utilized as a smaller AA or AAA park with the former parking lots used for a public park

[@williamphillips5677]

If WWE Wrestlemania goes there I see MT Davis to get sold out

[@thesmithersy]

Why would Vinne Mac want to put it there?

[@99dndd]

Each year more people climb Mt Everest than Mt Davis.

[@RFE812]

What about Mt McKinley?

[@kc2dc444]

Not another team in Vegas please. How about Nashville or Charlotte?

[@al1976-v7m]

Would be great, the South deserves more teams, it's a baseball hotbed

[@Warriorcats64]

Or Portland.

[@aryksnag1935]

@@Warriorcats64Portland I think should get the A’s in my opinion.

[@kjhuang]

I know I'm the only one who will say this but I actually find Mount Davis to be aethestically impressive, especially when seen in person. It was a big waste of money though.

[@MrRicklynch57]

They added “The Treehouse” and “The Stomping Ground” to Mt. Davis on the second level. So, they have 2 social spaces………. Just sayin’

[@MLBMISFIT_34]

I wish Indiana where I live would get a team..so if they would move..MOVE HERE!

[@fantasticvoyage262]

But that messses up the alignment. Which is why Las Vegas is the backup plan.

[@muggzwithsunglasseswarioBower]

Oakland A,S

[@bullwinkle2380]

Leave Mt Davis just the way it is as a symbol to all the bullshit that goes on in the world!!!

[@RFE812]

What about Mt Davis’ nearest higher neighbor Wild Turkey Rock?

[@froddo420]

The Vegas stadium is a really nice Minor league stadium... But still a Minor league stadium. It will serve well for a few years xD

[@fandyllic1975]

The Raiders ruined and left. Not much more to say.

[@RFE812]

Mt Davis is also the name of Pennsylvania’s highest point.

[@VianoMusicAcademy]

Does it have tarp on it?

[@RFE812]

@@VianoMusicAcademyNo but it has a tower.

[@FernandoAR760]

"Crap minor league stadium" excuse me the Las Vegas Ballpark is a new beautiful stadium that consistently sells out unlike the the crap colloseum

[@sjchevalier07]

Giants fans are the reason they had that sellout a few years back. You’re welcome!

[@adamori9736]

It's not beautiful, just a disaster.

[@jeffroot1126]

this is how they treat their loyal fans (including me), letting the stadium and the team just rot to the ground while the owners bathe in their money. I’ll see y’all in vegas.

[@ronpeacock9939]

Sadly, the worst has to be the Trop... really, it's a toilet with a lid. I will give this one a second opinion.. but it's not the only stadium left from the cookie cutter era... Angel stadium is also from that time.. though after football left they've become a Baseball only venue and never looked back.. where this place... the A's were treated badly by the city to get the Raiders back. Sadly, I've never liked the idea of pandering to a sport that only hosts 8 games/year... Baseball brings way more money into the area simply by having 81 homes dates..

[@tjg4411]

The A's have the money to treat their fans and stadium better. The Rays don't, I don't understand how people say the Trop is worse lol. They keep stray cats at the coliseum to kill the Rat issues they have there

[@jkguitarfreak95]

The braves gave up an All-Star for Murphy

[@darylwille4878]

Al Davis was stupid for leaving Oakland for LA in 1982! Had he stayed, A’s would’ve got a stadium built and Coliseum would’ve been renovated for football! He got greedy and arrogant and moved to LA! They’ve never been the same since

[@scottsmelser6174]

Say Mount Davis again!!

[@willbygosh4887]

Replace it with a state of the art,beautiful classic minor league baseball stadium.

[@phillyfan-182]

The A’s should move to Las Vegas. Simple as that

[@willp.8120]

More like Charlotte. Bigger and better in every way.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

@@willp.8120 it’s Vegas, the league wants them there but can’t openly say so

[@hubaldotorres4841]

@@bostonrailfan2427 screw Vegas, they can take the DBacks. Why not move the A’s to Sacramento instead. Vegas will never have a local fanbase look at the Raiders more opposing team fans than Raider fans. Vegas is a joke of a sports town. Stick to combat sports Vegas. Golden Knights games suck

[@bostonrailfan2427]

@@hubaldotorres4841 California has had DECADES to get a new, better stadium. they lose the team, too damn bad!

[@al1976-v7m]

@@hubaldotorres4841 Sacramento is home to the River Cats, the Giants' Triple-A-affiliate, i don't think that makes a whole lotta sense. I think the team should stay in Oakland and get a new ballpark, the Bay Area is a big enough market for 2 teams. Plus, the teams by now has a long tradition and very passionate fanbase

[@willp.8120]

Why is it "ugly". It is just seating. Sounds like group think perpetuated because people want to agree with others.

[@coreybenson1503]

It’s a giant wall in centerfield that blocks a beautiful view and is never used for seating. It’s not group think, it’s just demonstrably true lmao

[@willp.8120]

​@@coreybenson1503 Sure, it blocks a view, but it is just seating.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

because people who never went to fames there, have no intentions of going there, who bash similar dual-purpose stadiums said it’s ugly meanwhile that stand was why they didn’t move to Arizona or Tampa or New Orleans🙄

[@bostonrailfan2427]

@@coreybenson1503 beautiful view? 😂

[@streetcheeses9234]

@@willp.8120 Yo look up the view before, fr you sound like you trying to be wierd.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

the biggest whiners have never actually been there, have no intention of ever going there, and bash similar stadiums just because they dan meanwhile that stand kept the team in Oakland when they tanked in the 90s

[@b_side8669]

The Las Vegas athletics

[@Ibhenriksen]

The view must be nice up there, but not for baseball. Must look like ants.

[@techi9]

Black led group wants affordable housing there

[@bobbowie9350]

Mt lambeau looks far worse than mt davis

[@johnjohnson4237]

lmao

[@RaT27168]

Was

[@jordanjohnson9866]

Nah. Not special. Not “special.” /

[@ldfreitas9437]

Mount Davis was built to get the Raiders back in Oakland. A stupid idea. Anway, with the As possibly leaving even next season to play in Las Vegas, as that minor league park is a good one, the whole think is going to go the way of Candlestick Park.

[@ldfreitas9437]

That minor league stadium in Las Vegas isn't crap! It's a nice ball park. Get a clue!