Could the Twin Towers have survived if they were hit higher up?

Discussing the Twin Towers and 9/11
My Twitter: / realpatrickmcl

[@Qusuduxjwnx]

its been over 20 years but i still like watching these

[@epbski]

Yes. I'm exactly the same.

[@shadowmoth9158]

Ginger deletes every single one of my comments. It’s not KZbin it’s him idk why

[@shadowmoth9158]

All I said is if the tower was hit 5 metres higher and 10mph slower it would have stayed up for at least 5 hours. It’s actually funny how he deleted all my comments. It’s a meme at this point

[@patricknedz]

This is history that will never go away. It still hits America hard, it’s an event that will never be forgotten. I enjoy these videos on how things could have been different based on impacts and stuff.

[@LeafFan1221]

Our curiosity will never die. I Was looking things up back when it first happened. 10 years old on dial up internet 😂

[@AirbusA380_Jr]

If the buildings did not collapse on that very day, they would be uninhabitable for years, too many risks. They would most likely demolish them as a result of the serious damage and risk of collapse.

[@adambrush5445]

That's the common sense approach. They would have been deemed beyond economic repair apart from the fact that they would have been American symbols of defiance overnight. I believe there would have been a no costs barred approach to restoring them.

[@dvferyance]

The north tower might have been fixable. The south tower was a goner regardless.

[@vitormachado4877]

Some people would probably create a group with other people's petitions asking for the towers to be torn down due to their fragile structure. Maybe the "manifestos" started in February 2002 and the controlled demolition started between March and May , I don't know, Maybe I'm going a little too quickly with ideas

[@user-zp4zl8cp1n]

it wouldd have been a controleld demolition, not by explosives, but basically a reverse construction, which i think what would have happend to the whole complex once everything else was resolved

[@tbc9096]

@@dvferyanceI wonder what a sight that would’ve been. Just seeing two massive skyscrapers with gashing holes in them standing vacant for months with a daily reminder of what happened.

[@30AndHatingIt]

When people watch the scene in Titanic where the iceberg is spotted and they’re doing everything they can to reverse the engines and steer away… most people find themselves pulling for them to successfully miss it, even though we all know exactly what happens. That is a hallmark moment for Cameron’s ability as a filmmaker… it’s an incredible thing to affect the audience like that. Well… same thing happens to a lot of people who watch 9/11 footage. Everyone knows the South Tower is screwed, but the North is hit higher up and holds out for so long, that you think it just might stay standing. It’s amazing it fought as hard as it did for so long. I think if it was an isolated attack and the South Tower didn’t get hit (or held out longer), then they would have knocked out the fire and it would’ve remained standing. Every time I watch, I naively hope it stays standing this time.

[@NoiselessShadow]

While a few did predict a collapse, most were shocked and amazed when it happened-the firemen and other first responders not the least among them. It really was unprecedented and unexpected. Knowing the towers' ultimate fate, we get this feeling of anticipatory dread, just as when we saw the iceberg hit the hull of the Titanic (we all knew how the story ended when we bought our tickets), but collapse of the Twin Towers is still something of a mystery.

[@imnotsqiddy]

I don't understand how you think the North Tower just wouldn't collapse... even if it was the one plane, the North Tower would inevitably fall just due to the pressures of the impact. The North Tower would never see another sunset the second the job was done.

[@NoiselessShadow]

@@imnotsqiddy Again, it's not at all clear that it would. I invite you to ponder the following hypothetical scenario in which the towers were never attacked, but the Port Authority decided instead to have them demolished owing to abandonment and decay. They hire a firm-let's call them Faulty Towers Demolitions-to bring the towers down to make way for new development. Imagine the following exchange: Faulty Towers: "We have made a careful study of the North Tower, and after consulting with our experts, have decided on the best method for demolishing it." Port Authority: "That's great! Can you share some of the details?" FT: "Sure. We are going to explode a bomb on the 96th floor." PA: "You're going to demolish a 110-story skyscraper with a single bomb placed on the 96th floor?" FT: "Yep. One bomb should do it." PA: "But why so high up? Wouldn't it be more sensible to place the bomb at the BASE of the tower? How is a bomb going off at the very TOP going to take the whole building down?" FT: "Well, it won't take it down immediately, but it will cause a very nasty fire. You let that thing burn for 60, maybe 90 minutes, and the building will come straight down. It's a sure thing." PA: "I don't understand. How will a fire cause the building to collapse?" FT: "Normally, we would have to cut all the core columns in a series of carefully-timed explosions to get a building of this size to accelerate all the way down the ground, but we have a theory that if we can just get things hot enough at the top of the building, the floor trusses will sag causing the failure of one or two upper floors, which will set in motion an irreversible 'pancaking' action that will take the rest of the building down just as fast as timed charges." PA: "I must admit we're still a little skeptical, but we're going to trust the professionals on this one."

[@imnotsqiddy]

@@NoiselessShadow Please get it in your head that these were impressively tall but poorly designed buildings for such a scenario. Even if all of the American GDP went to keeping the North Tower standing, the building literally wouldn't; there were just under 2 hours between impact and collapse. The bigger issue is that if the South Tower weren't hit/ collapsed, more emergency personnel would likely be in the tower when it fell. No one thought the towers would come down until WTC2. Without that realization, the emergency death toll is likely still high, but consolidated within WTC1

[@coolyoutubename16]

@@imnotsqiddy and what is your insight as to WHY these were "poorly designed for such a scenario"?

[@alina_rose1]

If it hit higher up, then the hat-truss (that contributed to the weight distribution that allowed them to stay up as long as they did) would have been severely compromised and then progressive collapse could still be on the table, but of course there are so many variables. Because of the tube construction, they were more vulnerable than many other high rises overall.

[@toasterpoppin8717]

Love your work Depressed Ginger. I love getting on a topic and the getting super obsessed with it. I know you put alot of work and thought into these videos. Thank you!

[@wattage2007]

If hit higher up, the weight of the hat-truss would still place colossal strain on the damaged structure below. Interesting video.

[@jewllake]

not to mention how heavy the antenna was.

[@mhballer93]

Do you realize the structural members are more like a pyramid and not a stack of cards?

[@diegosza]

biggest what iffer on youtube

[@zaytime4156]

I mean ppl ask what if all the time this no different

[@krisstopher8259]

@@zaytime4156 how many have you seen?

[@30AndHatingIt]

Which is great. It’s very interesting to talk / hear about… and this guy actually records it and uploads for us to engage in it. I’m getting ready to release a lot of episodes on my channel talking about random stuff I find interesting; if people like it, great, if not that’s fine. I’m sure this guy feels the same way.

[@pilroberts6185]

If the buildings didn't collapse, many many lives would have been saved as they could have evacuated and that would have been a blessing. But both buildings still standing still would have been an utter disaster. They buildings would have been condemned and at risk for collapse at any future moment rendering the entire surrounding area a perpetual disaster area. They buildings would have to be torn down but how is that even done without risking countless lives??

[@adambrush5445]

That's the common sense approach. The towers would have been deemed beyond economic repair apart from the fact they would have become an American symbol of defiance overnight. I think efforts would have been made to restore them.

[@pilroberts6185]

​@@adambrush5445 I'm with you but I think they'd be unrestorable. The damage absorbed in the strikes would have weakened the supporting structure well beyond the areas of visible damage, possibly even through to the foundation. Restoration would be even harder than tearing them down (and that would be hard).

[@krisstopher8259]

@@pilroberts6185 i think you're right unfortunately

[@adambrush5445]

@@pilroberts6185 now that you say that I remember from other documentaries the buildings were warped to the point that there were jammed doors as low as floor 25ish. Maybe you're right.

[@imnotsqiddy]

Of course he's right. Fuel fell down elevator shafts to the base floor, dozens of floors severely and structurally damaged, plus the human death toll in those buildings alone... Dude, get it in your head. This isn't some sci-fi, it's reality.

[@bigfoot14eee99]

The EPA meddling with the fireproofing is a factor that is seldom mentioned.

[@b3j8]

What people forget is just how big a 767 really is! These buildings were monsters and one 767 affected several floors w/parts of the plane shooting right thru the entire North Tower, incl the core, and out the other side! Hitting higher up would have drastically reduced the death toll as some office spaces were vacant and entire floors were used only for equipment, storage. I think the South Tower would still have partially collapsed if the relative impact location was the same even tho higher up.

[@sladwig4094]

Fuselage is only 2 floors deep. The rest of the plane is wings. The planes are made of aluminium. The building is steel and concrete.

[@b3j8]

@@sladwig4094 Just bec it was mainly aluminum doesn't mean it wasn't heavy, and at that velocity, also had formidable mass.

[@Romans8-9]

@@sladwig4094 What are you implying by that comment?

[@MrJakejonesy]

@@sladwig4094 idk what you’re suggesting, structural engineers were literally able to determine which columns were severed by the impact. Not to mention the fact that the steel exterior of the buildings being penetrated by an aluminum airplane itself disproves your argument. You’re not smarter than the hundreds of structural engineers spending countless hours studying the mechanisms of the collapse.

[@coolyoutubename16]

​@@MrJakejonesy you've got no idea what you're talking about. What planes?

[@Marc816]

No. Their main structural supports were the outside walls of the buildings themselves. Once they were damaged, the collapse was inevitable.

[@MFitz12]

Not si. The core columns carried the majority of the gravity loads. Perimeter columns carried the remainder and ALL of the lateral loads. The whole thing was an integrated system though where no single element could survive without the others.

[@sattwikchakrabarti]

@@MFitz12No sir.... It was almost 50-50 weight distribution between 59 perimeter columns & core consisting of 47 columns....Within these 47 columns load distribution was not even...16 core columns attached to trusses carried almost 50% of total load on core (i.e. ~25% of building's total load). The 7 innermost core columns were quite small, carrying only about 3 percent of total load.

[@ajaciedenniettestoppen71]

HAHHAHAHAHHAHA

[@MFitz12]

@@sattwikchakrabarti - Just 59 perimeter columns? Is that your final answer?

[@coolyoutubename16]

Why would you make this much of an ass of yourself? You've just made that up and written it for us all to laugh at

[@tdurb0]

It can’t be coincidence that the lower impact fell much quicker. I know it’s always going to be conjecture, but surely that was the one ‘lucky’ thing on 9/11, that the planes were too big to be able to be nose-dived lower down on both towers. The second plane lost a lot of altitude very quickly but still hit quite high up. Looking back all these years later, it was such a simple plan, so easy to put into practise. The day the world changed forever.

[@shaolinalan4292]

Love these videos mate please never stop! We need a video of your full “opinion” of this day your views on conspiracy’s etc. maybe hard for yt reasons but I imagine yt shafts you for this content anyway!

[@imnotsqiddy]

His opinion is just airhead material that doesn't go deeper than a simple Google search or Reddit thread.

[@shaolinalan4292]

@@imnotsqiddy i like his content and wouldnt mind hearing his opinion even if it was basic or the same as thousands of others. As he dedicates so much time to this topic i would be interested to hear.

[@imnotsqiddy]

@@shaolinalan4292 He barely puts time into the content. He overlays a few pictures over generalized audio of things you could find out on the first 3 paragraphs of a Wikipedia page.

[@shaolinalan4292]

@@imnotsqiddy alright mate keep it to yerself will you, the jealousy is ripping out you. Why dont you make a channel if you think your more interesting.

[@imnotsqiddy]

@@shaolinalan4292 I did, @athemocracy and @screenblastsociety. I put time and research into what I produce. No jealousy here.

[@jmoneypop]

Random but Lamont at large just did a video with his friend who checked the hijackers id when they went to talk of the town. Cool to check out if Yu didn't already know

[@Miami543210]

You have a great voice for a radio or TV. You would make a great newscaster. Or talkshow host. Or DJ. You have a natural voice for that. Love your topics.

[@butternutswag]

I try not to think about this often. The poor people in the plane, imploded within seconds. Just gone. God is merciful.

[@imnotsqiddy]

Even though he allowed civilian structures to be attacked?

[@katherinemerkel3505]

The curse of having free will

[@butternutswag]

@@imnotsqiddy what?

[@ajaciedenniettestoppen71]

HAHHAHAHAHHAHA

[@ajaciedenniettestoppen71]

Ever felt sorry for the death and dispair the evil american empire caused in the middle east? thought so

[@schwarzerregen9338]

It's always confused me when the hardcore deniers fail to understand the weight distrubution changing once a huge chunk of the building was missing. I've played enough Jenga and built enough Lego Models in my time to understand weight distrubution

[@MFitz12]

Conspiracists don't actually do physics. They whine about it a lot, but they don't get it on a fundamental level.

[@spikester]

WTC1 also had a significant amount of heavy broadcasting equipment along with heavy UPS battery backup systems for said broadcasting equipment. Despite the north tower being hit further up there was a lot more weight there than it had appeared. EDIT: You could see in some closeup footage that floors were already sagging between the windows well before the collapses.

[@markwilson4052]

There are also many witnesses who reported the creaking, groaning and cracking of the Towers in the final 20 minutes before the collapse of the respective buildings.

[@spikester]

@markwilson4052 That sounds horrific, lots of warnings the building sounds showing that it was slowly consuming itself on the inside before the main collapse. One can see the smoke patterns, especially in North Tower, from some angles really had some noticeable changes in the minutes, just before it all gave way. 😢

[@justinweaver7428]

If the North Tower were hit higher up, you'd hit the hat truss. Floor 107 was the start of the hat truss in the North Tower, and they ran to the top of each tower, which would have greatly complicated things.

[@Tugg_Speedmann]

Just imagine the people in the office that was directing hit from the nose of the plane …. Probably was having coffee and laughing about what they did last weekend and it was so sudden without warning and then BOOM white light … wouldn’t have ever ever known what was coming and alllll the events that’s happened following impact … like one min normal , next second , boom white light … spooky stuff if u think about it

[@johndurrer7869]

You should do a video on what would’ve happened had Atta hit the south tower around the 25th floor. The south tower could’ve been hit that low had the plane came from the East over the winter garden and the Marriott. Had that been the first hit everyone above the 25th floor would’ve died. And it likely would’ve collapsed much much sooner than 59 minutes because there would’ve been almost 3x as much weight. . Probably would’ve only held up for 30 minutes maximum. But possibly only 10-15 minutes. My guess is they didn’t think the buildings could be brought down so they wanted to hit it higher up to trap people at the top. There was approximately 9000 people in the south tower at the time of the first impact. So had they hit on the 25th floor about 80% of the people in that building would’ve died. So that would be over 7000 killed just in that building alone not counting the firefighters.

[@dusancicerikov6988]

If the buildings were hit much higher, they would have stood for a few hours longer, but that would have meant much more hell and suffering for those trapped in and above the impact zone.

[@vitormachado4877]

Probably yes

[@Leafsdude]

A few hours might have been long enough for some to get rescued from the roof, if authorities were able to coordinate fast enough.

[@MrHunt916]

The higher it hits a the more people survive. There are fewer people in the building the higher up you go

[@Miami543210]

I believe the terrorist wanted to knock the buildings over upon impact. The terrorist probably assume that hitting the tower with a jet, but certainly just knocked the towers over immediately. They probably weren’t too concerned with where they hit the building at. They just wanted to hit the building and likely aimed for the center to be sure they got it.ultimately, they did achieve their goals.

[@jer0051]

I remember seeing a video with a fire fighter that said never trust trusses.

[@bkyguy]

Can you do a video on your history with the world trade center and what you were doing when 9/11 happened. 9/11 was one of those events where everyone remembers where they were when it happened, like when jfk was assasinated.

[@ibraheemrao8434]

Unless you a seven year old like I was.

[@Oxidinite]

do you have a video on Edna Cintron?

[@Paulj327C]

I wonder if the planes were mostly intact inside the buildings or if they were obliterated. I imagine large sections of the planes still intact.

[@Leafsdude]

I'd imagine it was probably in a million pieces, but the structural integrity of the buildings kept them in some level of relative order.

[@stephenemerson536]

Shredded, aluminium prob melted in the fire. Lot of small bits landed blocks away. Just see some of the street level videos

[@stephenemerson536]

@@Leafsdude unlikely. Bits all over rooftops. At street level too. Don't forget one was going 400 mph, the other closer to 600mph. There is a. Vid on here of still images taken that day . A lot around the south side both before and after the south tower was hit. Once you know what you are looking at , the lumps of human remains thrown clear at impact are obvious.

[@coolyoutubename16]

😂😂😂😂

[@Skarfar90]

As far as I know, 4 scenarios could have happened if the towers were hit at the uppermost floors, but the plane's impact angles and speed were unchanged. Base scenario: The planes hit the 106th floor, which causes less elevator shafts to be impacted, and much less people trapped above the impact zones, since the originally trapped people would be in the middle of or below them. The North tower would be hit between floors 103-109 (10 floors higher than the actual impact), and with all 4 corners intact, it stays upright for the longest time, having pretty much only a single floor and the roof's hat truss to support above the impact zone. The north and south faces of the building would still have huge holes in them, but the walls would hold strong. The South tower would have been hit between floors 102-110 (25 floors above the actual impact), but since the south facing wall and two corners would be compromised, the top would be highly unstable, and develop a slight lean towards the south. More stress being put on the north facing walls and corners, causing high tension in the steel structure. But, since the plane hit so high, the hat truss would have been impacted on the southern side, and likely shearing off some of the heavy weight being placed above the impact site, and would have likely detached the south facing walls that covered the uppermost floors, causing the load to even out more. Some internal collapse would occur regardless. 1a. A collapse would occur in the South tower, but the tower would have stood upright for much longer. Maybe twice or three times as long, giving rescue workers more time to help people out. Granted, if people were gathered in or above the strike zones, the death toll would have been high, regardless. The north tower would later be demolished 1b. Alternately, the South Tower would be rebuilt, and the North Tower would be repaired. 2. No collapse occuring, and the fire crews made it into the impact zones, to put out the fires. - Death tolls would be high still, because of the thick smoke, and heat from the raging fires. A plan being made to preserve and repair the buildings followed after, and the towers would have likely been in use to this day. 3. No collapse occuring, but the fire crews let the fires fizzle out by themselves. Death tolls would be the same, or slightly higher than in scenario 2. This time, the Port Authority decided to demolish the towers, a long process of dismantling and prepping for a controlled demolition would follow after.

[@3xcolorsFox]

Depends on how high up. I think two conclusions, they would either take much longer to collapse or would have stayed up but would later be demolished. Both outcomes would have resulted in less casualties, the first outcome would have likely extended the time until collapse clear over an hour, maybe even two. The actual times between impacts and collapse were 8:46 a.m.-10:29/10:28 a.m. for 1WTC and 9:03 a.m.-9:59 a.m. for 2WTC. These increase in time could have allowed firefighters to reach the impact zone and start putting out fires.

[@willhemmings]

Incorrect on one point. Neither aircraft disintegrated upon entering the building. BUT, the first plane struck the floor plate and then the central core columns. These obstacles caused the plane to quickly disintegrate. The aircraft that struck the south tower hit between floors and the fuselage did not strike any core columns. This relatively free path allowed the fuselage, minus the wings and tail, to exit the building almost intact with very little reduction in speed, clearly visible in videos. I would be interested to know where this forward section of the fuselage landed up

[@coolyoutubename16]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@coryzahradnicek261]

hat truss structural system that both wtc buildings had. Would have save the building if hit the top floors. I wounder if every 10 to 20 floors would had. Some type of hat truss structural system would that help keeping outer walls collapsing inwards?

[@Zacharyisk8forHimMarino]

Would like to see a video on the death toll numbers had the planes hit closer to the ground level....

[@thegamingbrosstudios6334]

i was thinking of the idea what if they used the fast plane witch was Concorde that probs splits the whole top off tho unsure

[@Vegardye]

Make a video on the hat trusses?😊

[@Keith-shit75]

It burnt so hot the rebar folded and the heavyweight crumbled

[@MisterMcKinney]

Truthers there are obsessed with building 7, yet ignore the Marriott.

[@renardramonfoxx]

Well building 7 was suspicious the Marriott collateral damage

[@johnkeating362]

I recall thinking that morning after the first 2 strikes, are the Chrysler and Empire State Building next? I was also thinking what if the Sears Tower or the Space Needle in Seattle were targets. It was such a frightening morning. I never want to feel like this ever again.

[@t0mkat]

babe wake up

[@cubby091398]

If the planes had hit somewhere between the 104rd and 110th floor there swould have been a lot more survivors. However, there still sadly would have been over 1,000 fatalities and around 3,000 injuries.

[@jackcapell8471]

No because of all of the TNT that blew the building up

[@Myersfan28]

Ofc theres no plane theorists in here 🙄

[@BenDavidin5784]

Could you do a video on if the buildings were built with traditional columns and core etc ?

[@MFitz12]

Check the channels back catalog.

[@toddkurzbard]

I agree totally. I was thinking the same thing.

[@coreyrowe4119]

This almost happened on February 20 1981 when Argentine flight 342 was a few minutes from hitting the upper corner of the north tower before ATC caught the near disaster and redirected their flight path at the last second.

[@bennymutant]

Another far fetched 9/11 scenario - and still no "Micheal Jackson turns into a giant robot and saves everyone on 9/11" video - like I've been suggesting for years

[@dr.jillalicecooper2587]

Wow, I just received a message from y-t that my comments are violating the guidelines😂😂 You just can't talk about 9/11, what a JOKE LMAO

[@bryanpratt5850]

That’s too bad. Wish you could share what you said in a more coded way.

[@fdo211185]

@@bryanpratt5850 Me too

[@krisstopher8259]

i've been blocked from facebook 4 f-ing times but never on youtube. i'm blocked from facebook right now lol

[@cece-fl3ng]

There’s videos about sex and murder, but a person can’t comment without getting blocked? That’s crazy

[@dr.jillalicecooper2587]

I'm not blocked but my comments were shadowbanned and I received a warning. Also, no notifications about replies to my comments. I just checked for replies myself and I got 4 replies here and 13 on other channel. Not one notification lol

[@zekehatcher2196]

An interesting scenario is if what if the planes had less fuel? Whether the terrorists take control over the planes later (But the planes have no delays on taking off), or they use airports farther away, and the planes end up having far less Jet fuel. Would the fires still be able to use that remaining Jet Fuel to burn just as much, or would the fires be less powerful and die out quicker, in which case, would the South Tower still collapse? Additionally, less Jet Fuel means a smaller explosion to begin with, which could mean less immediate damage done, which could've protected certain parts, including stairwells.

[@Wrestling316]

Honestly in my opinion, I don’t think the buildings would’ve been spared even if they were hit higher up. My crazy prediction is that they both would’ve fell at the same time because the South Tower was hit higher up/at the same height as the North Tower. I can also think about the fires that were weakening the buildings as well to think about.

[@mattyklee]

Time to wake up! You're gonna be really mad when you see the truth.

[@fontende]

This is in fact exact damage which waiting every tall building TODAY if a rocket hits it. They can't protect them still from such. The only difference here is attacks of government buildings same day, which is incredibly rare in simple terror (by dictionary scaring general population, rarely authorities).

[@adamhes06]

Is there somewhere to view those debris timelapse diagrams in full?

[@C-WEB1203]

You should do a video on the Burj Khalifa

[@Mrd9960]

I think more people could have escaped, because the stairwells wouldn't have gotten damaged at that point, but there would still have been casualties, just not as many and the buildings could have possibly stood hours longer, allowing more people to maybe get rescued.

[@1994CPK]

Would you really be atomized by the impact. Are there any hidden reports on body parts landing 500ft away from the impact zone? I know the airplane tires got ejected far out, one of the tires wasnt found until years later.

[@hootowl2112]

So what youre saying is, jet fuel didn't NEED to melt steel beams! I work with steel, and you most certainly don't need to melt a piece to make it easy to bend.

[@stephenemerson536]

Jet fuel was gone very quickly, it's the resulting inferno over multiple floors that caused the gradual loss of steel strength

[@Griffith74]

I think they wouldve survived if they didnt get blowned up from the inside

[@benjaminrealy5661]

I think with the cap being the biggest weight distributor, if that goes, the pancake effect would still happen. But will be a slower and later start. Slower because the added weight would be less than the initial drop. Might even be tediously slow because with each collapse the fire breaks through to the lower level. And would take time to weaken the steel. With fire suppression unavailable the building would be destroyed regardless of collapse. With a slower collapse, in theory, if more debris falls off the side, less weight hits the lower floor and there might be a point where the collapse fizzles out

[@coolyoutubename16]

What do you mean by "a pancake collapse would STILL happen" ?? A pancake collapse didn't happen to begin with

[@stringbender3]

No they started to tip sideways before the floors below were blown out

[@holdernewtshesrearin5471]

They absolutely would have survived if the fires could have been extinguished or if perhaps they were never ignited. But to pose the query " if the Towers were hit higher could they have survived" is actually irrelevant. The key factor here, or the key component rather is the floor slabs. And their supporting trusses. Due to the unique, ground breaking design of the WTC Towers the floor slabs and their trusses were THE critical link in the chain in that the Outer Perimeter Column Walls could NOT support themselves without the stabilization of the floor slabs and trusses which connected the OPCW and the free standing Inner Core. Without the floor slabs the OPCW would simply twist, buckle and collapse from their own weight. Therefore the floor slabs/trusses were the critical component. Now, each 1 acre floor slab/truss was designed to carry its weight, the weight of all the equipment, furnishings, office walls and occupants and the dynamic loads placed on them from the OPCW such as the massive wind loads plus a healthy safety margin of approximately 40%. The floor slabs/trusses were absolutely NOT designed to nor were they capable of carrying the weight loads of even 2 additional concrete slab floors and were certainly not capable of carrying the weight of a 350,000 lb Boeing 767. Their mounting saddles would be quickly overloaded and would bend, tear out (something we see in EVERY floor of both Towers) suddenly drop to the floor beneath and so on. Like an overloaded bookshelf, each floor dropped to the floor beneath causing it to drop and so on. And as we've discussed, due to the design of the Towers, once the OPCW is left unsupported for a long enough span, they would twist and buckle like knees, dropping the building section above to add further to the debris and destruction hurdling towards the Earth and destroying everything in its path. So...would it matter if the Towers had been struck higher up? Well, they would have stood longer but considering just how hot those fires were and how it weakened the steel structure, and factoring in the inability of the floor slabs to support the weight of even 1 or 2 collapsed floors from above, I think it's safe to conclude a total collapse was inevitable. If we could have fought those fires down, then maybe. But with those fires raging I don't think anything could have saved the WTC Towers. RIP all those lost and God bless their loved ones. NEVER FORGET what they did to us! NEVER FORGET! God bless America! FJB!

[@Matt-pt6rl]

There’s an overweight blacksmith that does a shill video explaining how the steel didn’t have to melt . It’s total BS but funny to watch. He shut down the comments because of the heat

[@aaronsechrest8345]

Hypothetical questions for another video: We know the plane that hit the south tower hit at an angle, let's say 45 degrees. I noticed at the beginning of this video that that caused the fuel to spread over more floors. Well, suppose the plane hit the same general area of the south tower, but it hit completely horizontal, or completely vertical. How would those two scenarios have affected how long the south tower lasted? Also, the interior core of the south tower was rotated 90 degrees from that of the north tower, so that the core was closer to the outside of the building on the side where the plane hit. Supposing the south tower was constructed with the inner core turned the same direction as the north tower, how would that have affected how long the south tower stood after being hit?

[@user-bb3yv8dy7q]

Good point, rarely is it mentioned that the towers cores were rotated differently. might have made a little difference but I think it was more of the angle that the plane hit the south tower that caused it to collapse sooner.

[@JOJ0606]

What if one of the towers collapsed almost immediately after being hit ?

[@user-sf1dq2iv4j]

One thing everyone over looks is that Minoru Yamasaki wanted to use steel for the towers but was convinced to change over to aluminum soon before work began, and I think if Minoru would have got us way the building would still be standing. Steel typically has a higher melting point compared to aluminum, making it a better choice for applications that require resistance to high temperatures, such as engine parts or cooking utensils.

[@coolyoutubename16]

What in the hell are you talking about 😂😂😂😂. Aluminium was used for the cladding which wrapped around the exterior STEEL columns. Seriously, what the actual f..😂😂😂😂

[@user-sf1dq2iv4j]

@@coolyoutubename16 i watched a documentary that stated that Aluminum was not in the original design AT ALL it was Steele BUT Minoru Yamasaki was convinced to replace it with Aluminum. All I’m stating is if that aluminum wasn’t there and Steele was it may have made a difference because the cladding did offer support to the structure in whole. Just a thought don’t have to be offended

[@MFitz12]

Ummmmm,... no. Just NO. The Towers were of _steel frame construction_ The _only_ aluminum was the decorative exterior cladding, which was not structural.

[@coolyoutubename16]

@@user-sf1dq2iv4j fair enough, these type of conversations normally escalate quite quickly lol. I think you misunderstood whatever it is you watched. The aluminium cladding had nothing to do with the structure

[@martygras378]

​@@coolyoutubename16Maybe these types of conversations escalate quickly for you, because you insult others, and add on annoying emojis.

[@PrinceZuko97]

I think we get it man 😂

[@TakeTheStairs11]

big up

[@hunterrobinson5125]

Did the airport security supply any of the weapons to hijack the plane?

[@Memessssss]

W video theory

[@dannyboy5362]

These buildings were going down one way or another. It would've been literally uninhabitable to do anything in.

[@brianpark3395]

I don’t know if this has ever been brought up but did any firefighters make it to the impact zone in any of the towers if so I’m sure it was a horrible sight to see

[@austintruett1700]

Look up orio palmer, he made it to the impact zone of the south tower. You can hear the shear panic in his voice over the radio call

[@brianpark3395]

@@austintruett1700 I will definitely check that out thanks

[@rainman6090]

@@austintruett1700 Orio Palmer is a legend. If he would have had a couple hours in that building, he could have saved hundreds by guiding them to the open stairwell.

[@ellenchavez2043]

Nope. The towers fell because the jet fuel dripped everywhere, setting fires of 1100 degrees, melting the metal joists and skeleton. It may have taken longer and may have fallen over rather than imploding. Where the towers were hit was planned for the towers to fall.

[@johndurrer7869]

I don’t understand how the core in the south tower was more damage than the north tower. The north tower had a direct impact on the core the south tower did not.

[@elliotberube5510]

Thermite

[@johndurrer7869]

Is that the twoof?

[@markwilson4052]

It hit the South East corner, taking out a lot of the weight bearing walls. South Tower was twisting before it fell.

[@user-bb3yv8dy7q]

As pointed o n in a post above, the South Tower's core was turned 90 degrees different than the North Tower therefore the core was closer to the impact zone than the North Tower.

[@NeonGundamG1]

Just wondering, like why were the towers being targeted so much?

[@NickTheCoolest743]

Cuz they showed America’s power and Islam was jealous

[@vitormachado4877]

Enmity

[@wattage2007]

Radical Islamic aggression.

[@HalfHumanYoutube]

The towers were one of the most populated structures in Manhattan at the time. They were also the tallest in the city where any attack on them would guarantee mass casualties.

[@imnotsqiddy]

Are you under 10 years old and haven't researched this by now? Hardly a logical question for this video.

[@xAquaDev]

good video

[@danielnovosad3392]

WTC 2 fell 56 minutes after it was hit because it was hit lower

[@zaytime4156]

So that proof if they was hit higher maybe at the windows restaurant Floor then there would basically be no weight above impact Zone

[@user-zp4zl8cp1n]

​@@zaytime4156 i think the only REAL weight would the couple of mechanical floors and the antenna, your point still stands, though

[@imnotsqiddy]

Thanks Captain Obvious

[@mariekatherine5238]

If they’d hit near the top, perhaps they’d have stood, but more people would have been killed because the planes would have gone into adjacent buildings and crashed all over the streets and lower buildings.

[@TacticalTrucker]

😮

[@sonic1695]

Thats what i saying

[@I_am_BiG_Al]

What if it wasnt planes that hit the buildings, but giant plane sized pigeons carrying jet fuel, would the buildings still fall? 🤔

[@user-zp4zl8cp1n]

i think once the pigeons got throught the perimeter columsn, it wouldnt go pass the open floor, it depends how much jet fuel

[@Leafsdude]

What if they were holograms made of space lasers? 🤔

[@MrHunt916]

They would have survived if they weren’t wired for a controlled drop

[@KrystyneY]

North tower was hit pretty high.

[@amireallythatgrumpy6508]

Still about 15 floors above point of impact.

[@i-love-carlyshay5365]

What if one of the terrorists tell America about the upcoming attack for september 11 2001

[@fakereality96]

No

[@nickypoundtown9568]

Next video Would a Hercules take down the towers?

[@giggidy316]

Doesn't matter where they hit them, once they planted the termite, they were going to fall anyway once they hit the button.

[@TacticalTrucker]

Nope

[@robertdallara4981]

Depends on how high up the plane would have actually hit. The real issue is not just the strength of the columns, it is how much weight any one individual floor can hold, since each floor only holds up itself (I'm talking about the floor trusses here, not a building "story" which contains both floors and columns). If you look at question #18 of the FAQs for the NIST report on the WTC collapse, the floor trusses on a typical floor could hold up to 29,000,000 pounds of static weight, and with the dynamic load of the top section falling down, that creates a dynamic amplification factor of at least 2 (meaning that half the weight or less could create the same amount of force as that maximum static load). Since each floor supported roughly 2.5 million pounds on a normal day, this means that a typical floor could hold 11 additional floors STATICALLY, and dividing by 2 means only 5 floors could be supported at most if the load was applied suddenly. This means that 6 floors falling down all at once to the floor below would have been enough to start the total progressive collapse, which means anything below floor 105 is out of the picture. If the dynamic amplification factor is greater than 2, it may only take 4-5 floors falling all at once to start a progressive collapse (though it would be significantly slower at the beginning even compared to the North Tower's actual collapse). Though once you get this high up, since there is significantly less weight above the impact zone, the floors may fail gradually enough that you don't get 4-6 floors all collapsing at once as a single "top block", potentially avoiding progressive collapse. For 2-3 floors below the top you would probably avoid a total progressive collapse altogether. Though if the fire then spreads to many lower floors, you could get a situation where a floor fails and suddenly you have 6+ floors that were previously being held up statically falling onto the floor beneath, starting a domino collapse. (disclaimer: I'm not an engineer, this is all knowledge I have gathered through years of studying mathematics, physics, reading engineering articles, and reading about the WTC and its collapse, including the FEMA and NIST reports in my spare time).

[@robertdallara4981]

It may seem so counterintuitive that such a small section of the building could crush everything beneath it in a dynamic loading scenario, but this is because dynamic loads are so much bigger than static loads, and the floor trusses (again, which only hold up their own weight, not the entire weight of the top section) took the brunt of the force during the collapse, NOT the columns. Most of the columns quickly got out of alignment and slid past each other like spaghetti once the collapse actually started, meaning they could not offer any meaningful resistance. It's also a natural consequence of the "square-cube" law which says that volume grows much faster than surface area. And since the weight of a structure is proportional to its volume, while its strength is proportional to its surface area, this means that a very "thin" slice of building could fall and start a domino chain reaction which results in the entire building collapsing (whereas this might not happen for a block tower you build as a child since it is on a much smaller scale). It's also the same reason why you see things like avalanches that start near the tops of mountains and go all the way down their slopes, yet you would never see anything like that in a playground sandbox.

[@coolyoutubename16]

​@@robertdallara4981😂😂😅😅 huge steel beams behaved like noodles 😂😂😂😂😂

[@MFitz12]

@@coolyoutubename16 - Yeah no. I find the collapses of the Twin Towers intellectually fascinating. My primary interest in this topic is in understanding the actual mechanisms of collapse. What failed, how it failed, in what sequence and why. I also enjoy being able to talk about the engineering with others who share an equally genuine interest in understanding what actually happened . So let's talk about it and if you disagree with anything that follows, please let me know what and why. This is my summary explanation of the Twin Towers collapses and mine alone, presented as a comprehensive analysis from start-to-finish, based on my observations and supported by evidence, without any appeals to or reliance on any authority. No politics or ideology, my only agenda is the mechanics and engineering - what actually happened and this is agnostic to who planned and carried out the 9/11 attacks or why. Importantly, it does not require Rube Goldberg levels of complexity, and makes logical sense . Also, you will learn all sorts of things the conspiracy oriented internet won’t tell you and no whataboutisms. This should dispel many common myths and answer most any questions you may have about the Twin Towers collapses. Twin Towers collapses are complex but most of the mechanisms can be seen with the naked eye and understood by the layperson if sufficient time is taken to understand. Those mechanisms were well understood by the worlds engineering community already by October/November 2001. Still many can’t be bothered to look or work hard not to see as they are often more concerned about advancing political/ideological agendas and bother understanding the science. This will take just a few minutes. 1. The Twin Towers consisted of four (4) primary structural elements which together formed an integrated system. The 47 steel core columns carry the majority of the gravity loads. The 236 steel perimeter columns carry the remainder and ALL of the lateral (wind) loads. Long-span lightweight floor trusses connect the core and perimeter column together with a hat truss on top to tie the structure together as an integrated unit where no element can survive without the others 2. High speed impact of 117 tons jets (= to about 12 dump trucks) completely destroys the aircraft, which in no way implies the Towers come out unscathed. Hitting with the energy of up to a ton of TNT the impact damages or destroys many perimeter and some core columns (33 of 59 perimeter and 20 core columns destroyed at the impact floors in the North Tower), primarily through bolt-shearing failures at the end connecting flanges, bending, twisting and fracturing of weld seams. There was no cutting or slicing - the reality was far more violent and messy. 3. Fire insulation, fire breaks and sprinkler systems on multiple floors are damaged or destroyed. Massive fires are started across multiple floors simultaneously and able to spread rapidly with no effective fire fighting or fire suppression in an unprecedented fire event . This was observed and recorded. 4. Steel gets weaker as it gets hotter and it gets hotter faster because of 3. Survival time in fire is reduced. Over time heat causes lightweight steel floor trusses at the impact damaged floors to sag. This was observed and recorded. No steel melted nor did it need to. Structural steel will fail long before it turns to a puddle. You just need to get it to bend 5. Sagging floor trusses pull on and cause the inward bowing of the increasingly weak and overloaded perimeter columns by up to 5 feet! This was again observed and recorded. Bent columns lose much of their ability to support a load. A straight column is up to 4 times stronger than a bent one. 6. The bowed perimeter columns buckle and fail on one face of each Tower, initiating collapse and converting the formerly static mass above them into a dynamic one 30 times greater. Again, this was observed and recorded. Columns above and columns below the failure point are no longer aligned. The load bearing structure below is no longer bearing any load as the mass above falls past the lower columns, NOT onto them. 7. Thousands of tons of debris pour down the open office space within the four outer walls . This loose debris crashes onto the first intact floor it encounters, grossly overmatching the floors load capacity and near instantly breaking the bolted connections to the columns. The amount of resistance the floor offers to this dynamic load is negligible and slows the falling debris only marginally. 7a. Note: This is NOT a top block crashing into and “crushing” a bottom block . 7b. This debris falls past the columns not onto them, thus the columns can provide no resistance to the falling debris. 7c. The only structure resisting the collapse is the bolted connections of the floor trusses to the core and perimeter columns. A pair of 5/8” bolts at each end of each truss vs. thousands of tons of falling debris. 8. This floor-led collapse progression within the four outer walls can only go straight down. 8a. This process is often incorrectly referred to as “pancaking” which actually refers to a different process for describing collapse initiation stage that was rejected at an early stage. Pancaking is too simplistic and inaccurate a term anyway. More like Kaiserschmarrn. 9. Collapse progresses through the floor systems and not down the columns. Rate of floor assembly failures increases with each successive floor as momentum increases, reaching an average acceleration of 0.65 of GA, or 35% slower than true free fall. Bam, bam, bam down the building until there are no more floors to fail. 9a. As the next floor is impacted, momentum is briefly slowed before accelerating in free fall again 12 feet to the next floor. Velocity and momentum are constantly increasing. 9b. With each floor failure the falling debris gains mass, momentum and energy as it descends to the next floor. The falling mass increases with every floor it destroys as new falling mass is added. Some falls to the sides, but most falls down. More mass, more velocity, same resistance with each floor. 9c. The above is unquestionably the path of least resistance 10. As air is compressed inside the building (95% air by volume) it is forced down the tower and out the sides. This was observed and recorded. 11. Perimeter columns become detached and peel away (think banana) behind the collapse front, being splayed out in a long line out to more than 600 feet from the base of the towers at the four points of the compass. This was observed and recorded, the results quite obvious from examination of the debris pile. 12. Core columns fail last as their internal beam bracing is stripped away and lateral support from the floor to perimeter columns is lost. This was observed and recorded and is most obvious in the North Tower. 13. The whole process took 31-34 seconds from the moment the perimeter columns buckled until the last core columns hit the pile. For those who care about such things that is 1/3 the rate of true free fall. To further prove this free fall nonsense is just that, watch any video of the collapses and note the loose and truly free falling debris dropping much faster than the towers themselves. 14. What was NOT observed and recorded were the 180-190 dB bangs of high explosives or the blinding bright flashes of thermite, neither of which could have caused the observed perimeter column buckling and neither of which could have survived the impacts and fires anyway. Cherry-picked casual comments removed from proper context where someone says they heard a loud noise don't exactly cut it. There is zero physical evidence to support either conjecture and both are pure fantasy, totally unsupported by evidence, logic, reason or even simple observation. Further, no one in their right mind would bother. Pre-planned demolition is preposterous, utterly impractical and unnecessary proposition. 15. The Twin Towers were perfectly safe within their design envelope: They collapsed when taken grossly outside their design parameters by an extraordinary event. The Twin Towers were an integrated system in which no one element could survive without the others. One element goes, the rest follow. To recap: Impact + Fire (heat) + Time + Gravity = Collapse. Remove any one of those four elements and there is no collapse. Collapse started (initiated) in the perimeter columns and continued (progressed) through the path of least resistance - the floor systems, bypassing the path of greatest resistance - the columns. Hopefully after reading this none of you are still stuck on the but the lower floors weren’t on fire nonsense. If you are, start over. Hopefully you found this helpful. This is intended to be informative, not adversarial and to serve as the basis of productive discussion. Serious comments and questions are therefore welcome. No Gish Gallop and no deliberately evasive off-topic derails please - just one on-topic point at a time to stay focused. This is a living project which is updated and improved frequently. If I have left anything critical out or made any errors of fact, logic or reason please feel free to point them out. Explain what I got wrong and how and I will make the necessary corrections, altering my hypothesis if necessary. Just telling me I’m wrong without explanation tells me you are not serious and probably a bit dim. Alternative hypothesis at least as rigorous as what I have just presented are highly desired - if you can do it.

[@Diesel_gamer]

1.3k views in one hour bros falling off

[@tdurb0]

I’ll never understand why the fighter jets were deliberately sent off in the opposite direction. That one phone call where the bloke gets cut off as the floor drops from beneath him and the phone cuts off halfway through his “Oh god” is something you can never un-hear.

[@MFitz12]

They weren't. If you are referring to the Langley fighters they were scrambled without orders or a flight plan. The immediate goal was to just get them in the air, so the pilots did what they were trained to do - fly out to military controlled airspace to await instruction.

[@tdurb0]

@@MFitz12 Thank you. Yes I was referring to the fact they were scrambled east.

[@Cookie-dr6iq]

It was all carefully planned

[@tdurb0]

@@Cookie-dr6iq Well as you’ve just read above, I was shot down in flames (probably not the best analogy) for suggesting that.

[@TacticalTrucker]

_The Twin Towers were constructed with a robust structural framework designed to endure extreme events, even those as severe as a "nuclear hurricane." The core of each tower contained 47 massive steel columns that formed the backbone of the structure. These columns, together with the perimeter columns, provided exceptional stability. The perimeter columns were boxed and reinforced with 2 feet deep spandrel plates, which interconnected the columns horizontally at each floor level, creating a strong, unified external shell._ _The floors were constructed from 4-inch thick concrete slabs that extended from the core to the perimeter columns, contributing to the rigidity and load distribution across the entire building. This design ensured that the towers could withstand substantial impacts and forces._ _Given this intricate and robust construction, the idea that an aluminum airplane could completely penetrate the building and disappear into it without additional internal assistance raises significant questions. The columns, particularly at the lower levels, were much thicker and stronger to bear the immense loads from above. These columns tapered in thickness as the height increased, but they were still designed to maintain structural integrity under extreme conditions. For an aircraft to achieve such deep penetration, it would require the internal columns and floors to be pre-cut or dismantled, or for explosive forces to blow out the floors moments before impact, as some have speculated based on various accounts and observations from the video "Loose Change" and testimonies of constant construction activities post the 1993 bombing._ _In my structural engineering studies, focusing specifically on the Twin Towers, it was evident that the buildings were fortified with 47 core columns and 244 perimeter columns, all interconnected with 108 spandrel beams. This setup created a belt-like reinforcement around the building, enhancing its ability to resist lateral forces and distribute loads. The concrete floors, 4 inches thick, formed a grid that should have resisted the impact force of the planes. The hat truss system at the top of each tower, comprising diagonal columns and an outrigger truss unit, was designed to redistribute weight effectively in the event of significant structural damage. This system's purpose was to ensure that even if some columns were compromised, the load could be shifted to intact parts of the building, preventing collapse. The concept of the towers collapsing solely due to fire and impact without additional factors, such as explosives, seems improbable given the design's resilience._ _Additionally, reports from firefighters and witnesses described explosions occurring from the basement to mid-level floors. These explosions could explain the bending of the perimeter columns moments before the South Tower's collapse. Internally, such explosions would have weakened the core and perimeter columns simultaneously, compromising the structural integrity. The discovery of thermite residue, a substance capable of melting steel, suggests that the perimeter columns could have been intentionally weakened. Thermite, applied as a paste and ignited, could reach temperatures high enough to melt the steel columns, causing the hat truss system to fail. This would result in the redistribution of loads in a way that would lead to internal destruction. The ejection of nearly 300-ton steel columns and the pulverization of concrete floors into dust before reaching the ground indicate forces far beyond a simple gravitational collapse. The near-melting of vehicles around Ground Zero points to extraordinarily high temperatures, further supporting the presence of additional incendiary materials that contributed to the towers' destruction beyond the impact of the planes._

[@MFitz12]

It is customary when quoting someone to cite the source.

[@TacticalTrucker]

@@MFitz12 _Liberal thinking, as described, is perceived as a mindset willing to sacrifice the truth if it means preserving their peace, happiness, and delusional reality._ _This viewpoint suggests that men with liberal tendencies have high estrogen levels akin to women, leading to a perceived lack of traditional masculinity._ _Liberals are depicted as unquestioningly accepting official narratives, such as the official report on 9/11, and are resistant to alternative explanations, often resulting in a delusional understanding of reality that makes it difficult to engage them with the truth._ _This group is characterized as prioritizing security over freedom, and liberal women, in particular, are compared to having "Karen" attitudes, suggesting an aggressive and unreasonable behavior pattern._

[@MFitz12]

@@TacticalTrucker - Again, it is customary when quoting sources to cite sources. You have to go at least one step beyond just being a _Mindless Repeater_ of other peoples (bad) ideas.

[@matthewJ142]

The buildings blew up. The planes really didn't do anything. That or the buildings were made of cheese

[@jankolar5612]

Comment about explosions or thermite are funny. These buildings collapsed so spectacular way simply because they were built so bad. Naive and low cost design, that's the truth about the symbol of "great America". The WTC buildings were theatrical backdrops only.

[@markwilson4052]

They were built quite well. But lightweight, in relation to earlier skyscrapers such as the Empire State or Chrysler building with steel/iron frames That said, no building in NYC was designed to withstand a plane crash of that velocity.

[@BrianWaller-qe7gr]

No because it wasn’t jet fuel that melted the steel it was non thermite

[@jean-jacquescortes9500]

The problem of the WTC was the bad design of the structure. In countries with high risk of earthquake, these towers wouldn’t be builded like in NYC.

[@sladwig4094]

The core columns held the building up before and after impact. Something else caused them all to fail at once.

[@MFitz12]

Core columns failed last. Sequence of failure is sagging floor trusses causing inward bowing of some of the perimeter columns by up to 5 feet until they buckled. Debris falling through the open office space strips the floors out one by one. Perimeter columns now separated from the rest of the building peel off. Core columns - their supporting beams and girders stripped by falling debris, fail last.

[@mdishuge]

What about building 7?

[@MFitz12]

Did you not note the title of the video: *Could the Twin Towers have survived if they were hit higher up* It delivers exactly what it says on the tin. If you expected something else, that's on you and you are in the wrong video.

[@martygras378]

​@@MFitz12Why so touchy ? Many of this person's video ideas have come from people's suggestions in previous videos comments sections.

[@Matt-pt6rl]

World history has no example of a building collapse that resulted in 90% of the victims bodies disappearing. Thousands of them just vanished . They were not recovered from Ground Zero, so where did they go?

[@SlickBlackCadillac]

Both towers would have survived without the thermate

[@coolyoutubename16]

Don't fall for it. There was no thermite/ thermate

[@nigelprettyc3]

@@coolyoutubename16why did it take 3 mths to put the fires out underground fire crews said there was molten metal down there very strange

[@coolyoutubename16]

@@nigelprettyc3 thermite is rapid burning, if you used it to destroy a 110 story skyscraper you'd see and hear it. It would look like the 4th of july. It wouldn't continue to react underground for months Have you actually seen any molten metal? Molten implies heat. Yet groundworkers were working in the areas that were fuming. People have been mislead to believe that is was smoke from fires. The truth movement has been controlled for a long time

[@nigelprettyc3]

@@coolyoutubename16 I have seen molten metal mate I worked in an iron foundry at one time mad stuff

[@coolyoutubename16]

@@nigelprettyc3 I meant have you seen molten steel at ground zero? There are some claims of it, but none that's been photographed Watch Dr Judy Wood: where did the towers go

[@jordanwhite8567]

Makes you wonder if there was any planning or science involved by the hijackers as to where the “perfect” impact point would be. Or if they just got really “lucky.”

[@elliotberube5510]

They did survive thermite knocked them down

[@ryanstephens4157]

They would of stayed up no matter what... they had help mate

[@MFitz12]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😒

[@martygras378]

​@@MFitz12It is certainly possible

[@elagabalusrex390]

But they weren't hit higher up, and they did collapse. So - not terribly relevant is it? Sorry to be a grouch, but I'm not a fan of these counterfactual "what if" pieces. They serve no historical or intellectual purpose, and just draw attention and time away from the study of actual events as they actually happened.

[@ohthatremindsmeofmypruneju3669]

if you're not a fan of what if videos you don't need to watch them

[@dvferyance]

The first plane hit pretty high up and the building still collapse so think the answer is a simple no.

[@vitormachado4877]

Videos like this don't try to cancel out what happened, and even if they want to, it's impossible, the new generations will know about it and so on. That's not even the worst, the worst are those who swear strongly that everything was CGI or that it was missiles

[@user-zp4zl8cp1n]

conspiracy theorists, especially the ones who straight up deny the deaths of those on the aircraft, are worse, way worse

[@mikes7446]

They were blown up by explosives

[@user-zp4zl8cp1n]

states a claim, leaves without elaborating, your such a bot💀

[@mikes7446]

@@user-zp4zl8cp1n says foolio with no content lol

[@user-zp4zl8cp1n]

@@mikes7446 and what does that say? if anything its normal to have an account just to watch and not make content on, advance on your claim if your gonna comment

[@hideofreakingkojima5457]

​@@mikes7446 The credibility is not invalidated simply because a person doesn't upload; that's a childish way of thinking.

[@unitedstrafes4522]

Imagine still believing the official GRIFT in 2024....😑

[@MFitz12]

Imagine still falling for conspiracy theories,... ever. Use the thinking part of the brain!