Derail Valley is the Best Train Simulator Sandbox Ever.

[@zalthemaniac4633]

A tip on the locomotive names: DE = Diesel Electric, DM = Diesel Mechanical, DH = Diesel Hydraulic and S = Steam.

[@breadthebest987]

Epic

[@True_NOON]

2 (Leading wheels) 8 (driving wheels) 2 (trailing wheels) Leading and trailing is so the axles are not overloaded

[@kevinpark1]

Here's a very short definition of what each of those trains are Diesel-electric a big diesel engine spins an electric generator that then produces power for electric motors that are connected to the drive axles Diesel-Hydraulic to keep it simple it basically acts like a bunch of torque converters that are connected to the drive axles Diesel mechanical it's a gear train the diesel engine drives the wheels through a gearbox which then has an output shaft that splits off to the drive axles Steam engine a fire is lit under a high pressure tank with water called a boiler which then produces Steam that Powers a piston controlled by a complex gear linkage that adjusts the timing. The Piston is connected to a bar that is connected to all of the drive Wheels

[@cesararanda4213]

The developers have plans to release the "DH6" and the "E6", yes that will be an electric locomotive

[@justaguycalledjosh]

thing is, which parts of the map will be electrified? @@cesararanda4213

[@leverettrailfan5414]

I love that Hyce could play Derail Valley very seriously and carefully, but willfully chooses to pursue chaos. kAN tries to play Derail Valley seriously and carefully, but ends up experiencing chaos.

[@stevepittman3770]

I dunno about train engines specifically but diesel engines don't use spark plugs so they don't need electricity to keep running, which is why you have a fuel cutoff switch. Anyway I really enjoy watching Derail Valley so I hope to see more of it!

[@Bump_on_a_log]

LOL i was gonna comment the same thing. that's also why diesel can run away just because they use the compression to ignite the fuel source (diesel or oil).

[@Crazyclay78YT]

lol yeah

[@joshuabenson2568]

In case anyone cares or wants a more detailed explanation: Old school diesel combustion engines that utilise mechanical fuel injectors can run without electricity, because the injectors and fuel charging systems don’t rely on any electricity to power them. Thus diesel will keep being pumped if the alternator on these engines ever failed. It can be reliable but also quite dangerous when a diesel starts to enter critical runaway. Modern diesel engines however, the ones which’s fuel charging systems are fully dependent on electricity to power and actuate them, can also technically run without electricity. That’s if they’ve entered critical runaway. For example, if engine oil enters the combustion chamber through a major leak on enough cylinders to keep it running, you’re running the diesel on oil. This is because the oil pump is mechanically powered by the crank and provides the diesel engine with “fuel“, since diesels make use of their high compression in the cylinders to ignite its fuel instead of relying on an electric spark to ignite the air fuel mixture. And yes, this will blow up the engine if it starts “drinking it’s own blood“ Now, I’m not knowledgeable on diesel trains in particular, as I worked on cars mainly. But the concept should still apply to trains, given the diesel in locomotives derail valley are all “old school” in their engine design.

[@stevepittman3770]

@@joshuabenson2568 Thank you for providing detail where I only had a rough idea.

[@mattymerr701]

Diesel engines often have glow plugs, but they aren't necessary, they just make it a lot easier and reliable to run

[@neonsamurai1348]

Tips, Print out the licenses before you consider buying them. Some of them will not effect your copay insurance, and others will have a massive effect. I suggest keeping your copay as low as possible. Also mouse wheel often works better than grabbing and dragging things like brake wheels and doors. I also often get the consist set up before putting the orders in the machine to save time for bonus pay.

[@flarethedragon]

After watching Hyce play this a lot, watching kAN is like Bert Kreischer going to Russia. the handbrake, not tying the air, shoving backwards, cutting the fuel on a hill. its a beautiful disaster and I'm here for it.

[@boravedat2931]

watching this video made me lose brain cells:skull:

[@fs2000]

Glad to see this game back on the channel! I think the engine kept running since it's a Diesel that ignites the fuel by compression.

[@Ronald.Golleher]

The way to turn it off in-game is the fuel cut-off button.

[@smurvje]

​@@Ronald.GolleherI can think of a few more ingame ways to shut it off.

[@silaskuemmerle2505]

@@smurvjegoing full Hyceball for example?

[@oriontherealironman]

Diesel engines don't need electricity to run spark plugs. They have glow plugs to heat the cylinder. The heat from the cylinder and compression stage actually is enough combust the diesel. The glow plugs will cycle on and off if needed.

[@mattg5852]

Kan, we need two things from you, more beans and explody boys After, good to see ya back in derail valley Kan.

[@gerwinwentink2294]

Dear kan, diesels self ignite. Diesel engines with mechanical fuelpumps dont need any electricity to run. As long as the engine is running you have power from the alternator too. So you dont need a batery at all, they are just for starting. A gasoline engine does indeed need electicity for spaks. But not a diesel, it regulates rpm and power complety bij injection timing and injectjoin time (amount of fuel)

[@TopiasSalakka]

The reason why it didn't shut off is because it's a diesel with a mechanical injection pump. Diesel engines don't need spark plugs, they just need compression and fuel. So, since the fuel injection is ran purely mechanically, shutting off the electrics won't do anything, requiring you to press the fuel cutoff button. Meaning, they did simulate this correctly too.

[@ScottaHemi440]

working diesel engines usually can run without power. that's what the cutoff button is for. my dad's tractors are like this.

[@StefsEngineering]

If you need a solid map, I made one that can be found on steam in the dv guides section. Has grade and speed limit info. Recently I added station specific layouts to that same map for the larger stations/towns

[@JanTonovski]

Yesss, ever since simulator came out I have been waiting for this. Thanks kAN! I highly recommend saving for the DH4 license

[@SnurtleLive]

Not too big into trains and this is my first time seeing this game. Really would like to see more of it though, please keep it up!

[@NintendoFlashShorts]

Yessssss you are finally playing this game!! I'm excited

[@PennsyPappas]

Alright kAN is now playing Derail Valley and I am all for it. Hyce is also doing a career mode and he's already had so much chaos on his series and I see you've started off strong with some chaos of your own. Please do more episodes for I definitely would love to see your approach to this game vs Hyce.

[@gogofuntime_yt]

22:15, kAN forgetting how a diesel works (with compression ignition instead of sparkplugs)

[@Stuck_Farmer]

L = Loading / Unloading S = Storage No need to uncouple. Apply 1 wagon handbrake.. Contract completed. Any incoming job becomes a shunt, unload & store contract. Shunting license is cheap and doesn't come with any payment / time penalties. Press Print on the Fees machine to see what certain licensing truly costs in penalties. $100 CoPay insurance pays for damage. Keep up with fees. Loco engineers will turn off the Loco & apply Locos handbrake.. Provided you keep up with maintenance costs & fees.

[@magicmushrum6661]

I've also started a new game, although I'm playing on a custom difficulty and cranked up the payout and removed paying for insurance. But back to more useful things if you get the MU license you can get the new de6 slug, you have to get the key from the harbor shop ($20K) and go find it near the harbor, it makes the de2 into a beast and not slip so bad, and its full of cement!

[@Berserk_Loon]

You mentioned about how they will learn the route is very true. Not sure how all RRs do it. To be able to be the engineer or conductor you have to qualify for the route. Usually as ride-a-longs with someone that already is qualified. New track it's drive it several times at reduced speed. Hyce might be able to say if BNSF did it or does do it depends on how much he talked with road crews. I used to be ground transport for railroad crews for meets out in the middle of nowhere! I've heard some stories about life on the railroad, it ain't easy! Note: I really miss that job. Getting to take the number 1 of both the engineer's and conductor's boards for that yard. Those guys were a hoot!

[@renegadeceo]

Kan (a Mechanical Eng.), while talking about a *DIESEL*, "Huh, thats so... I would have thought that electrics would have like shut off the distributor to the engine so it wouldnt be able to actually, ya know, burn anymore and ignite with spark plug." Rudolf Diesel would be shakin' his head if he heard that line. I just...

[@QuebecGamer20]

The locomotive's engine DOESN'T NEED SPARK PLUGS! It's a DIESEL-electric, and diesel engines use the compression of the fuel mixture to ignite it, and the fuel injection pump is most likely mechanical

[@Theo_El_Gato]

Love this game hope you will continue to play it.

[@seanjamin1249]

loved watching this. Please more Derail Valley content.

[@captainwolf0117]

Finally. Ive asked for you to get in this game. I hope to see many vids to come

[@StArFuRyZz]

Get the shunting license and shunt at Harbor. Preset the loads to load/unload so you'll finish faster and you'll get the 50% bonus and money adds up quick.

[@raptorworkshop6651]

FINALLY! I have been waiting for sooo long!

[@Ronald.Golleher]

When it comes to licenses and fees, you can hit "Print" and get more detail. Fees will give a breakdown on costs, licenses will tell you what you need before you can get that license as well as how it affects your insurance and bonus time.

[@TheRogueBro]

Diesel motors don't use spark plugs. So as long as they have a fuel to burn they will keep on chugging away. This is why diesel's will "run away". If oil is introduced into the combustion chamber (broken ring, blow turbo) they will just keep on running and revving higher and higher until a:something breaks, b:it runs out of oil, c:the engine heats up and seizes

[@Berserk_Loon]

I love railroad games. I bought Railroads Online because of you and Hyce.

[@Adam80mb]

You should try this one game called From The Depths. It's a game where you build your own battleships, submarines, or planes and use them to battle. You even have to build your own turrets and cannons for different purposes like anti aircraft, missle, or just long distance cannons for distroying boat armor.

[@B3ll3r0ph0nt3s]

More Derail Valley please. Super fun to watch

[@chezworthmaxamillion3989]

I’m so excited for you to be playing this game 😊😊

[@sirtbf7229]

a tip from me, if you press f2 you can go into an outside of locomotive cam, if you press alt then you can click on switches whilst in that camera, pressing f1 will get you back to normal player camera

[@MünWeeew]

Hyce is gonna be thrilled, if he doesn't find a way to blow up an entire train yard full of explodey bois first

[@LilScrewmatic]

He already has

[@amahashadow]

Kan : I'm not sure this loco could push 2 loads - Hyce : I Burned 4 loco in 20 min.

[@HampshireVideo]

Should have pushed the train from Steel Mill towards the farm and used the triangle of that junction to then drive forward towards the Harbour.

[@OnyxBMW]

I cannot wait for you to get the cutest little engine, the S060, and for you to blow it up within about 10 minutes. It's such an adorable train, you'll love it.

[@Surkai25]

It's about time!!!! Welcome back to DV!

[@daemonicone4098]

TRAIN GAAAAAAMES! Thank you man. Love your content, and train games bring out the engineer in you in the best way.

[@timadams2295]

In the comments already, realistic mode is more challenging. I have found everyone has their own play style. Me personally, as soon as i can, I get the shunting license. And you can rake in good revenue there in Harbor and town, just in shunting alone. After shunting, it does open more doors for you. and a good way to familiarize yourself with the yard. Overall, just have fun with it. There's plenty of surprises waiting for you around the bend.

[@Ronald.Golleher]

The temp gauge is no longer diesel engine temp, it's the traction motor temp. So as you add amperage, especially above 500 amps, you'll heat up the TM until the point you can blow one like you did early on.

[@antibanplay]

Multiplayer or co-op would be perfect

[@joshschultheis1731]

I love that you used Hyce’s music❤

[@KayoMichiels]

22:19 It's a Diesel, the fuel injector system is probably still mechanical... so even without electricity.. it would still run!

[@justaguycalledjosh]

A tip from hyce's viewers, the blue cables make your controls affect every locomotive connected with them. Be very careful with that.

[@lanteanboy]

won,t matter until he gets the Multiple Unit license

[@justaguycalledjosh]

@@lanteanboy Yes, but i spent long enough shouting at the screen watching hyce. not doing it again.

[@Nekomancer1983]

Let's not forget the time Hyce forgot to release the independent brake and wondered why he struggled with the train. @@justaguycalledjosh

[@boravedat2931]

watching this makes my braincells go

[@Red49er85]

that was super entertaining :) thanks!

[@MrKingglenn]

So to make the most money and get the best results you should get your engine prepared and in front of your load before you take the job. The job starts once you take it so the timer is going the entire time you are prepping. You can look at the job requests forms and see the car numbers for the load and then be able to find it in the yard before taking the job. This will help you get bonuses for fast delivery.

[@ravenheartFF]

I can't wait to see kAN find his damage fees...

[@widders1]

yeah, big bug there with that diesel compression ignition engine there :p This game does look pretty fun though, shame about multiplayer but I guess focussing on making the single player as good as they can first is not a bad way to go either.

[@QuebecGamer20]

Is it though? A diesel engine doesn't need an electric ignition system and the injection could be mechanical

[@widders1]

@@QuebecGamer20 yep, that's my point, it'll have a mechanical fuel pump so the only way to stop it is to kill the fuel supply (or stall it)

[@QuebecGamer20]

@@widders1 Your comment sounded more like you thought it was a bug

[@thelostanimatronic]

Dude jumped to a different universe 6:56

[@MrAdrianSW]

'I wonder what Hyce would say?' - Im pretty sure it would start with " Depends "

[@chriscaldwell5612]

Diesel engines don't use spark just pure compression. Older full mechanical diesel doesn't need electrical power to run That's the reason for a separate fuel shut off because the only way to shut them off is to shut off fuel or air or let the compression off.

[@K1lostream]

The diesel didn't shut off when you killed the electrics because diesels don't fire by sparkplugs - they fire by comprssion, which is why they're so clattery, because they're like double the compression or more than gasoline engines. Anyway yeah, as long as theyre getting fuel they'll run, so you shut em down by starving them of fuel. Fun fact, if an oil leak happens that means a diesel can get its own oil to burn, even shutting the fuel off won't help, it'll just runaway until it siezes up or explodes.

[@Rumbletheimp2]

Oooooh! The I and O on the signs means inbound and outbound

[@p75369]

S for siding, L for Loading. And the damage fees on the contract are for damage to the cars. Locomotive repair fees still have to be paid through the terminal.

[@elektro860]

23:00 you didn't inflict any damages to the cars but to the engine, the damage to the engine is in the fees but don't worry about it

[@Rail_Fan_plane_fan]

It was funny when you put the automatic on instead of being dependent, and you almost rolled off the turntable

[@cat_lord5149]

This would be perfect for u and hyse when multiplayer comes out

[@IgnavumFortuna]

I dare you to set the difficulty to simulator. It'd be a bit more immersive. It basically just removes the arrow on the map and disables the 3rd person controlls.

[@rocketplane]

"Oh the engine will just keep running without the electrics." It's a diesel engine, so no spark plugs. Add to the fact that they all pretty much have mechanical fuel pumps and injectors and yeah, it'll run to fuel exhaustion without electricity.

[@lanteanboy]

"Thank god we can teleport in this game" Meanwhile Hyce.....

[@startrek133]

It would be really cool if multi player worked .. would love to see you and Hyce playing together ..

[@kevinpark1]

Finally I was starting to think you completely abandoned of this game

[@Lemonaitor]

Get the shunting, S060, and DM3 licences first, all three don't increase your co-pay

[@aleksidimitrov2312]

The DE2 is rated dor 400 tons. You can see how much they can pull by printing the licences of the train

[@hekkensnatser]

no, thats before the simulator update. since there are now more intermediate locomotives, the de2 now only pulls around 250t

[@speedfire1847]

so engine can idle cos its probably diesel and its dont need spark to ignite its doing its under pressure and its can have mechanical injection system, thats why wen you cut only electric you could idle your engine if you have massive flywheel

[@scrap-godsuper-zo4740]

Khan the engine ideals without electricity because diesel dose not use spark plugs

[@inotsmarty5700]

DERAIL VALLEY it's been over a year since you last played.

[@buckduane1991]

Of course the engine still runs after turning the power off… it’s a diesel, silly. It uses compression, not spark plugs, to ignite the fuel. However, it uses a lot of power to start the engine with the glow plugs.

[@krisgallo4192]

Diesels don't use spark plugs they use glow plugs and run off the heat so the only way to stop diesel engine is either cut off the fuel or cut off the air.

[@parapetcloud]

14:42 The number on the sign here is actually the distance to the wye, not the grade.

[@Shroge]

Finally

[@willdufner]

Ah, yes the Diesel engine that uses spark plugs

[@DinnerBlasterX]

Wait until he finds out about the different camera modes and ALT mouse control mode hehe

[@MattDvc]

Get multiple unit first. Then use 3x DE2 to make quick money. Nothing worst than bogging down trains.

[@Cgod1000]

the rail road i work for you'd be doing a drug test for sure

[@LordSethrik]

I still want more Void Train 😢

[@NateThurlow]

You and the guys need to play unrailed

[@bobingabout]

I = Inbound O = Outbound S = Siding L = Loading/Unloading

[@elektro860]

22:20 the train has a diesel engine it doesn't need a spark plug for combustion

[@j-train13]

kAN, trust me you did NOT want to flip the locomotive at that wye in front of the steel mill. I tried that once doing the exact same thing you did, hauling 5 cars of steel bars from the steel mill to the harbour. What you don't realise is that entire wye is uphill, and if you stop at the foot of the switch, it is impossible to start the train again with that heavy of a load on the DE2. I was there for like an hour before I finally decided to let it roll all the way down the hill across the bridge, and then I hade to split the train and double the hill, taking the cars two and three at a time, and recoupling them at the other side. it was... not fun

[@bluescrew3124]

Give it the beans

[@chidungmai9053]

Spark plugs on a diesel😂

[@THEButterKING25]

Hey Kan try getting the money to get the slug it will help you do bigger jobs with the de4

[@adriansrealm]

Diesels don't have spark plugs, or distributors nor do they use electricity. To stop a diesel you have to interrupt fuel or air.

[@thattrainfan121]

Hy the break you pold in the engine that didn't work before is the train brake as in all the cars but you can't use it because you forgot the second angle coke

[@grimsley9989]

Dude, maybe doing the tutorial might have helped, just a little. Oh gosh my OCD just spiked. Btw, reason why fuel cutoff is needed, they are diesel engines, they don’t need a spark plug to fire each cylinder

[@jacobzzz698]

yes

[@realcanadian67]

Just noticed, hes using Hyces music!

[@michchante7639]

De2 is rated for 100, sh2 is 400 and de6 is 1000 tons i think

[@QuebecGamer20]

I've pulled 600-700 ton trains with the steam engine, that thing is a BEAST

[@matthewthaemert3282]

diesel dont use distributors, those are for those gas peasants

[@Ethan_Golph]

Yes

[@True_NOON]

The DH4 is plenty enough, and 2 DH4s for a 30 car train, anything else is uselessly overpowered

[@THEButterKING25]

Not when your doing 50-60 cars you need the de6 and a slug

[@Devminny]

Oh god he in here?

[@thomasbailey9895]

Are you using the soundtrack from Hyce?

[@soweliLuna]

finally

[@mattheweilertson1817]

👍

[@SQIRT25]

Derail valley multiplayer mod with Hyce when? 😂

[@matthewlyons4923]

Kan the diesel Locomotive doesn't have spark plugs because it runs compression