ONE ENGINE ONLY: Who Can Build the Best SINGLE THRUSTER Fighter Plane?

Welcome to another episode of Trailmakers! Today we are doing a 3 person free for all dogfight, but this time we are only allowed to use a single large jet engine to power the entire airplane. Although the engine is definitely powerful, it is also a huge target and will be limited in speed depending on how big our builds are. Who will build the best one?
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About Trailmakers:
In the toughest motoring expedition in the universe, you and your friends will build your own vehicles to cross a dangerous wasteland. Explore, crash horribly, use your wits to build a better rig, and get as far as you can with whatever spare parts you find on your way.
Welcome to the Ultimate Expedition!
Journey over grueling mountains, hazardous swamps, and bone-dry deserts on a distant world far from civilization - it is just you, your fellow adventurers and the amazing, jet-powered hover-buggy you built yourself. Explore, crash your vehicle, build a better one, and get as far as you can with whatever spare parts you find along your way.
Trailmakers is about building very awesome vehicles and machines, but you don’t need an engineering degree to get started. The intuitive builder will get you going in no time. Everything you build is made from physical building blocks. Each block has unique features like shape, weight and functionality. They can be broken off, refitted and used to build something new. Individually the blocks are fairly simple, but combined the possibilities are endless.
Expedition Mode is the challenging campaign mode of Trailmakers. You are competing in an off-world rally expedition with only a few building blocks to get you started. You must build, tinker with and rebuild your machine to progress. Journey through a big world, overcome deep gorges, angry wildlife and dangerous weather to progress and find new parts that will juice up your machine. The world in Expedition Mode will test your survival skills and ingenuity.
Sandbox Mode is where you want to head for an unrestricted, sandbox, vehicle-building experience. Here you can build anything you can dream of, and play around with it in the world of Trailmakers. It is a great place to test out crazy machines, and experiment with the physics engine. With tons of different blocks, hinges, thrusters and interactive vehicle parts - the skybox is the limit.
Trailmakers is even more fun if you play it with other people. Build cool vehicles and compete in mini-game modes with your friends or other Trailmakers online. Build a helicopter, send it to your friend, and shoot them out of the sky. Put two seats on a tank, and let your friend control the turret. As we get further in Early Access development Expedition Mode will also be adapted to multiplayer.
Learn more about the game on www.playtrailmakers.com #scrapman #trailmakers

[@dominikdoom]

I've noticed a few times in past challenges, but it seems like putting important parts behind the center of mass without additional armor is always a bad idea. The center being empty and "baiting" shots only really works for stuff like the airship battle, where the targets are slow moving and positioning is much more deliberate. In dogfights, not only is it much easier to get behind or in front of people, where it will be in line with the center of mass, but if you pitch after the bullets were fired, your back will actually swivel into the line of fire.

[@thatprson]

I agree, even if you're not pitching just the simple fact that you and the bulets are moving means that by the time the bullet reaches your plane you will have been moving forward meaning the bullet is going to hit the back of your aircraft.

[@theyeetus1428]

It certainly helped in the rocket round though.

[@thomasrufin2673]

He is using an indestructible seat, and the armor is useless in this case.

[@Nevir202]

Ya, avoiding important parts at COM in only one plane, only makes sense if you get to control what plane your enemy will be shooting from. With only one engine, there was no way to avoid putting the engine at COM along the ship's length. It's funny that ScrapMan's weakness that lost him the last fight is also what got him the victories. With his control surfaces so far from COM, it meant they had a lot more authority, allowing him to flank really well, but also meant that losing some of them made his plane much harder to control

[@bigjimmy9140]

or just watch the video

[@Voidwielder]

Definitely voting for an outside spectator during dogfights. I wanna see those crazy spirals!

[@lx-lzzzinbadsport-xl8988]

100%

[@HashknightGaming]

Space engineers has thar and much more.

[@Skunkanoid]

@@HashknightGaming not sure what kind of feature you are trying to promote here that space engineers has that trailmakers doesn't. they are simply talking about having an extra player to act as a drone cam xD

[@WynterLegend]

Y'all should do this with an "evolution" in between bouts. You get to change the aircraft a bit with each iteration. Up to 3, for brevity's sake.

[@Average_Marvin]

Yes!

[@amgadpro]

You're an og

[@leoncaples2947]

Bringing back evolution into the mix would be pretty fun.

[@shayaharon5015]

Yesssss

[@wify0241]

Just bringing back evolution period is an easy win

[@chef5588]

if all of the guns autolock on the centre of mass and there's a delay between firing and hitting the enemy then it makes some sense that all the bullets were hitting scrapman's engine

[@LJB6.28]

They lead, but when he gets closer a small difference in trajectory increases while closing resulting in the computer firing at a target traveling horizontally (relative to its POV) faster than It was so the trailing edge is hit instead. This only happens when closing on the enemy. But since this is a KZbin comment I am obliged to put some stupid emoji so here it is 🤡

[@FastOrix]

Um ScrapMan legit said that at the end of the video lol 25:55

[@chef5588]

@@FastOrix he asked why his engine was being hit like three times so I left the comment before I got to the end of the video so I wouldn’t forget

[@FastOrix]

@@chef5588 oh okay

[@kacperkonieczny7333]

I think that the guns autolock on projected center of mass but the calculation account for drag but not for thrust. But that would need to be tested in game

[@someguy8437]

It's great to see you having lots of fun with other content creators. Could you do a dogfight battle with kAN, Kosmo, Yzuei, Azi, and Little corn dogs where you can make any plane with a limited amount of power cores for thrust and weaponry?

[@TheKingreiko]

Team battle would be so cool. What if some were ground and some air.

[@lookatel3658]

​@@TheKingreikomfw warthunder

[@TheKingreiko]

@@lookatel3658 exactly

[@DoubsGaming]

I was so confused for a second, i haven't watched SM in a second then there are the new people. Thought he ditched kan and moonbo for some reason lol

[@Survivingthefallout]

We need to see kan and cosmo

[@peterreedstrom2027]

The reason your engine kept getting hit is due to it being behind your center of mass. When the tracking fires at your center, and then you turn, it causes the bullets to undershoot and hit your engine

[@androidworks6704]

Man I miss watching scrapman playing multiplayer with kan moonbo and kasmo. D:

[@DrypandaexpressFrey]

Same D:

[@ricardomaximo2252]

Same 😢

[@xenomorphisisdilage472]

What happened to them?

[@1mariomaniac]

me too :(

[@Robloxcoraptter]

Me 2:( i miss moombo

[@armandasjuska1204]

Scrapman: are you still flyable? (Shoots again completely destroying the plane) Me: I guess not any more!!

[@tylermatheson4376]

I think the fact that yuzi added armor to the top of the engine made his plane 10x better

[@vit.budina]

I feel like the worst thing about ScrapMan's plane was how spread out it was, making the lever arms of the control surface forces really big, thus once one side got taken out, the torque from the other was too great to overcome. For next time, it's probably better to have your control surfaces' vertical centres of lift very close to the centre of mass, or possibly employ some logic to allow for individual control of parts. One more interesting concept could be a piston shifting centre of mass, either to aid in yaw control or to counteract the lack of wings on one side of the craft.

[@Dominator_0211]

Bullets tend to target your engine because of the maneuvers you guys are doing. At those sorts of speeds the auto lock will always be slightly behind your seat and the time it takes a bullet to travel will delay the shot further, meaning anything other than a head on shot will likely hit the back end. In your case that meant your engine was the most likely piece to be hit.

[@eliroyas6089]

Just had an idea. You guys battle with planes, but you have 3 hours, with NO limitations, to build a fighting plane that showcases your building abilities at large scale. So some crazy vehicles for us to see!

[@RowanNosnhoj]

nice idea

[@graylinbeaudry4651]

i really appreciate how casually you guys take these. i think if anyone took any of the matches too seriously it'd really kill the vibe.

[@tornadoblovom3460]

Scrapman organise a battleship battle with a 9 tank cannon limit!!!

[@Davix----1]

Day 11 of asking scrapman to play stormworks (again)

[@chalkopirate]

I sign your petition

[@MrSaanvi]

I sign

[@coolNICK09]

I too sign.

[@potatomonarch2]

I don’t know what that game is but I sign.

[@GamzzZ02]

I shall sign.

[@renn1561]

As a fan of both JB and Scrapman, this collab brings me great joy

[@thewalrusman2132]

Same bro.

[@nosferatustg7675]

Hey Scrap Man! You were talking about durabilty during a part of the video and how parts compare and i will let you know most/all aerodynamic parts can take 5 shots while all blocks can take 4 shots, that being true for 1x2s,1x4s,2x4s,etc...with no scaling whatsoever I have actually made a few videos on optimal armor setups if you are interested in those, along a wide list of block durability lines in the end of my most recent video, if you are interested feel free to check it out!

[@IgnavumFortuna]

It would have been an interesting limitation with a single mini-truster

[@cappyantonio1367]

If there in Ohio 💀

[@danthiel8623]

Smol plane

[@youraveragechaosspacemarin752]

I will say,while scrapman seems to be the most knowledgeable,Yzuei is definitely an extremely talented creator,big props to all 3 of you guys

[@darkassassin1605]

I do love a content creator with a fantastic upload schedule.

[@DigitalJedi]

Having more folks in the sky is awesome! I wonder how a 2v2 with 1 large plane and 1 fighter each would work. Perhaps trying to protect the bigger target while the fighters can repair would be cool.

[@timothyzikos6185]

16:19 that's the dogfight version of shooting someone and they're like "oh, you fixed my shoulder"

[@xConspiciox]

Watching Scrapman's building process has taught me how to approach problem solving in general. I have watched him set a goal, analize the problem, break it down into parts and sistematically trying and discarting ideas until it works. And I have done that in my spare time, as entertainment. Just saying, that's massive.

[@dark-5825]

Explaining the thought process for the build is awesome, at least in my opinion! Really interesting

[@christopherrivas2889]

Third-person-crowd-view dogfights seems interesting

[@planetfall5056]

Loved this vid. All the matches were epic. Three-way free-for-all dogfights are intense, and the build restriction was interesting. Yzuei's build was so cool.

[@notthatbad42]

Idea! Aircraft carrier battle: 2V2 or 3V3 Everyone builds a vehicle, 1carrier and 1-2planes per team, the goal is to destroy the enemy carrier, the planes can respawn infinitely and have to take off from the carrier. The planes should have guns/rockets to fight enemy planes, but can only use torpedoes and guns against the carriers,(rockets and bombs would be too easy) so the carrier also has to dodge the torpedoes while letting the planes take off. I hope you like my idea! P.S.I think there would only be time for 1maybe 2 rounds in a video, but there would be so much action!

[@darkcarnage4578]

Man what i would love to see is you remake the 5 in one vehicle that you made a while back with the new mechanics added after the airborne update

[@Hyena-Princess]

Yessssss, it's so good seeing three of you in the dogfights now!!!!

[@tutel9570]

Nice video! The one jet engine design reminds me of the Heinkel He 162, which is a German jet fighter.

[@quakxy_dukx]

JB’s is pretty similar to it

[@cappyantonio1367]

NICE STORYLINE

[@Mazapine]

The rocket rounds are always my favorite, takes some skill and the explosions are satisfying, fun video!

[@DeezKnutz]

I like these dogfights! You guys could do 1st to 3 or 5 points, & winner (or 1st out) picks the weapon of choice for the next round. Nice to see JB too, Crossout community represent!

[@lightdeck8357]

i would like to see the thinnest fighters, as line like as you can get them.

[@Yesook_mapping]

Membership mam

[@notrickastley106]

Scrapman needs to remember, in most dogfights, there is someone behind you

[@matthewtimonera9953]

An idea for the future: a multiplayer seaplane battle. Repairs are allowed as long as the seat has not been destroyed (or player ejected from being underwater) and repairs can only be done while the plane is in the water

[@dragonmasterlangeweg7625]

You should do a plane battle, where each plane has a pair of machine guns on a steering hinges, placed on a rotating servo, so you can hit someone from many angles, and have the plane have a way to eject the cockpit, and have a single machine gun on a swivel mounted to the cockpit, along with up to three thrusters, and up to four stabilizers and two wing pieces as an escape pod so everyone is still potentially a threat once their plane is taken out.

[@redstarwarrior85]

I think build modifications should be allowed between rounds as you are able to recognize and adjust for deficiencies. Do it as an evolution series.

[@Lubids]

Trailmakers, the land that only stops at your creativity

[@Mccrome375]

With these kind of challenges, it would be awesome if everyone went against each other with the winners creation (with miniguns) just for some extra fun

[@a2brathw]

Good to see sm making the most delicate things in a dogfight

[@jacksonlee6760]

Love to see more cool ideas in the future! Perhaps a hovercraft battle with the new parts?

[@lordsrednuas]

I think it makes more sense to become smaller and denser the faster and more agile you are. With all the fast turns you make the target lock is never going to actually hit the centre of mass, it'll be hitting to the side of it. Voids make more sense with slow builds, like that hot air balloon fight, because everything is slow enough that the centre of mass actually gets hit

[@ethanmays6589]

Scrapman's lack of speed enable him a much sharper turning radius, the faster planes were much faster but that caused there to be a much higher drag coefficient, resulting in a far higher lift per wing, but also more drag when trying to change direction, which meant their turning circles were far larger. Which is why Scrapman could tail them so effectively.

[@saturnring2jw]

Rocket battle was great. The double tap on Yuzi was awesome.

[@notthatbad42]

Favourite moment when scrapman two-hit everyone, especially yzuei: you still flyable? Let me fix that.😂😎

[@3am_-]

Scrapman: you still flyable? Yzuei: yeah I thi- Scrapman: not anymore

[@anonymouscoward7559]

Great Competition and builds. More plz.

[@jacksonstarky8288]

ScrapMan had a rough takeoff at the start of the second minigun round, which I missed when I watched Yzuei's video of this battle. It's neat to get multiple perspectives on these dogfights when both ScrapMan and Yzuei (and/or whoever else is involved) post their own videos of the same game session. 🙂

[@infernal_wolfie8963]

imagine a lightspeed dogfight with 3 or more people where the planes go fast enough to break the sound barrier

[@warkus123]

It's a good idea in theory, but in practice, since the bullets are not infinite speed and hit instantly, but actually fly quite slow, they hit behind where they aim quite often. Because by the time the bullets reach where the center of mass was when the bullet was shot, the plane has moved forward, so the bullet hits behind center of mass, so I think that's why your engine got hit so much. I could just be talking nonsense, but it seems logical to me.

[@m.h.6470]

I think it is kinda obvious, why the engine was hit so much: It was directly behind the center of mass in a moving vehicle. The bullets were aimed at the center of mass and there was nothing there to "absorb" the bullets, so the engine essentially "flew into" those bullets.

[@eliashoussney995]

You forget a lot of damage from dog fights is in the back and not just center of mass from the top

[@akaraven66]

"I can save it" Crashes 3 seconds later.

[@gazu8990]

You should make a ring of rockets and fly trought it!

[@Egerit100]

For non-plane battles (like the tank one you guys did not too long ago) I think allowing ramming would be a good change, rather than making it so you lose the second your weapon falls off

[@davidaugustofc2574]

Yzuei deserved that win, he understood right away what was the priority

[@Moetastic]

Both guys have there engine in the center of their build, where as scrapman has his at the back where enemies would be shooting at without any sheilding. Scrapman: "Why is my engine always glowing?" 😮

[@Diarmuid056]

You should do a durability testing video, also I wouldn’t mind a 2nd video of this

[@hindricedvardsson8072]

you should make planes with the raw jet, which makes it so that you get speed sometimes and has to glide otherwise. If you were 4 people divided into teams I think it could be really interesting.

[@Graytail]

Challenge idea for you Scrap - Glider launchers. One engine? pssh.. NO aircraft engines! And unlike the previous glider challenge, no WHEEL ENGINES either! Figure out a way to launch your glider with a separate machine, something like the launch catapult on an aircraft carrier as an example. Simple distance challenge, or you could aim the launchers at eachother and joust with cannons. You only get one shot, so make it count!

[@Griffo4]

I have no idea why but I just LOVE Scrapman’s plane in this video. It looks like a plane, spaceship, and arachnid all at the same time.

[@ianmcnab9534]

21:29 "your still flyable?...........i was"😂

[@jacobyh1845]

I think a hydrofoil challenge using the flap wings would be cool

[@ledogman9206]

finally, the Collab I was waiting for.

[@Chihuaha]

with (i think) 8 content creators there are so many more possibilities for challenges. one could be: there is a team of 4 ppl and they have to build a base and assign each person a role to protect the base like one could be a minigunner turret and one could be a scout truck etc. there is another team of 4 oppositions that try to take down the base, the roles would be switched and the team that lasts the longest wins.

[@DoubsGaming]

I think a few distinctions need to be made about how the fights work in this game. Based on what I have seen on this newer system. Speed is not your friend. Because the guns will always be mounted static, you probably want a tighter turn radius instead. That being said if you have both you may have less issues. Another thing is unless the fight is strictly explosives having a beefer plane is better then a skeleton plane. Although redundancy wasn't a bad idea I think it would have been better in the wings or armor plates. The seat does not need any protection assuming it's indestructible. Lastly the top of the plane will fair better with protection then the bottom. Because their is no ground to air fights their is no reason to have it assuming it's a 1v1.

[@thedud3019]

I think it would be fun if you could do a "franken-car" were 2 people build half a car and you merge it together for a 2v2 where each player controls half the car. anyway, great vid love to see all the fun stuff you come up with

[@alexgerringer3269]

I wish Scrapman would upload his builds to the gallery in Trailmakers

[@Phoenix-kn8uk]

Scrapman: I’m not going very fast. Also scrapman: *going 200 mph* 5:19

[@1963_nailhead]

Trail makers has an altitud sensor, witch is kind of like a z axis sensor. But they need to add an x and y sensor so you can prograhm things to stay in one spot, or even prograhm them to travel on their own from place to place. For example you could put a drone on auto piolet and have it go from loading dock to loading dock on an infanit loop.

[@wyvernbravo]

JP's aircraft reminds me of a ww2 German wooden jet, the HE162, especially with having the engine in the position it is

[@huberthe6443]

Beat me to this comment.

[@semajniomet981]

Do this again with propeller planes or balloons, but with someone on the ground or sea with AA guns. Each person in the air gets one repair. The player on the surface can repair as many times as they dang well please so long as at both (or all) players are still capable of flight or have a repair remaining. Best of luck!

[@RuFFlesGaming]

3-way is crazy! Hope you do more! I'm not an expert, but I believe what happened is: From the top, your build is split and the engine not in center of mass, but from the front there's little besides the aero pieces and your seat to block the engine. Tilting down just slightly would put the engine right in the fire zone. Hope that helps! ✌️

[@jan-laubschervandermerwe924]

New challenge - dogfight with only booster jets as propulsion - 6 needed in total for relatively stable forward flight

[@the_jo_universe]

Video idea: choose one of your saved builds and dogfight with them (so no building but strategic thinking instead) The only limitations are: Under 50 power cores No workshop creations Max 3 weapons (can be any weapon)

[@the_jo_universe]

I'd just love to see this, plus it's a little revamp on contents

[@noahoverholt4145]

In arial combat use of pitching up is common, pitching down less so, as such the top of the plane is commonly targeted and the underside less so. Meaning if you put your engine upside down with the same body above it instead of below it, you would likely have kept it longer

[@firelordthe64th]

Next you should do a battle were you each spin a wheel to choose to your weapon and have to build your craft with how much of that weapon being based on what weapons the others got for balancing, and I feel you should start on land for this concept.

[@buckduane1991]

Reminds me of the de Havilland “Vampire” a bit. Could try a dogfight with either a push propeller like the US made P-55 “Ascender” prototype or a push-pull like the German Dornier Do 335… or, could build them on your own in the real-life engineering series.

[@Wiwerest]

Nice idea for a video to experiment with different parts durability against different kinds of weapons

[@JBRider]

This was EPIC!

[@walterwright9418]

Multiplayer challenge. One player needs to fly through tight areas as many times as they can, while the other player/players try to shoot them down with ground based builds. Areas can be anywhere tricky to fly through, such as the aircraft carrier or tunnel on danger island, or the canyons in airborne dlc. The flyers have no weapons, but the land based creations either get two rocket launchers, or two mini guns. The flyers must state which area they are gonna fly through, then each player takes turns trying to fly through that area without crashing or being shot down. The player with the most passes through an area get a point.

[@ElectroNicko_]

One wheel battle, each build a car with guns, but only one wheel. Need I say more

[@Lubids]

I love how ScrapMan makes the most angelic vehicle and still criticizes it like it's junk

[@justaregularbattlecat2127]

You guys should do a flying wing dogfight, you will need a lot of time though they are tricky and time consuming to build

[@crazytrain03]

Dang! JB making vids with Scrapman?! Been watching JB for years from my Crossout gaming days.

[@SirPhoenixTheDon]

This one's it! A solo challenge for you Mr Scrapman if you will. The XP-4 transwing design aircraft!

[@blu6295]

I think you should do a 4 player round where two ayer each build a turret with only horizontal movement, and the other two players build a drone that carries the turrets with magnets to eliminate each other

[@the_rick4360]

Suggestion for next time: Either for a glider dogfight challenge or one of those where someone loses an engine, allow people to land on a catapult and as long as you're flying and landing on those, you're still in. Battle area around the catapults and start from the highest one on the map.

[@alondjeckto]

Fun fact: twin tail configuration actually called twin-boom. Also you built gull wing (tail)

[@user-mb9kq5se4d]

Imagine the pilots just calmly talking to eachother while their plane goes down "Ooh, that was a good hit!" "Yeah, I'm going down... left aileron fell off." "No problem! GG!" "GG" *Dies horribly in an explosion*

[@honda_nsx_9283]

Nice to see JBRider in your vids! A changed atmosphere from Crossout, for sure😂

[@megalith1368]

The plane at the beginning of the video looks a lot like the late WW2 Jet plane (Heinkell He-162)

[@poesneus5571]

A 3 man pirate battle would be cool

[@davecommander3958]

I really liked the dog fight battle with rockets!

[@Modnautica]

You should have a dogfight but before building you use a dice dispenser to tell you how many of a certain part you can use for example if you roll a 3 you can only use 3 engines or to make it really challenging do it for wing pieces

[@FIashOOT]

Video idea: dogfight but you have to controll them from the ground and only can see them throu cameras wich are on the ground(can be rotatet) would also be a small area to fight

[@nathenrousseau953]

Don't know if you've already done this, but a 2v2 battle, one driving/flying and one shooting, could make for some interesting builds and fights. Then again, I'm not sure if this could work 😅

[@-user_redacted-]

I'd love to see a race with hovercraft powered by 4 jet engines. Those 4 should be used for both the hover, and the forward movement and turning. Nothing else allowed that uses power cores.

[@LordLaberstein]

I am not sure, but i think that the bullets aiming for the center of mass still easily hit that big engine on their way to that supposed target, especially if you move and try to evade. Like when one comes up front and you dive down its probably some easy hits on the engine. When one comes from behind the bullets just literally have to get through the engine to get to the center of mass, and if you then pitch up, the bullets hit as well.

[@porayouthparjon1785]

Very cool 😎 I like the challenge scrap man does it surprise me every time

[@andrewmeacham7293]

Hey you should do large build air battles like minimum of 300 parts so we can see you tank shots but see you start to struggle instead of these instant kills. You can also apply this concept to fleeing attackers with a huge cargo plane but the fighters get more weapons