How Do I Wisely Tell a Professing Believer I Don’t Think He Is Saved?

[@jamesdean1989]

My pastor (who I was in ministry with) finally just ask me if I was a Christian! Boy, was I mad!! But I went home and God's Spirit dealt with me! Showing me my sin and how I was an enemy of God's! Praise God for this brave pastor..."faithful are the wounds of a friend"...

[@mmichy]

Wow awesome!

[@sean-yb5hc]

Wow! Awesome! that's truly great to hear, for you both, for God's glory. Glad you've been awakened my friend and thanks for sharing some hard truth that I'm sure was very strange at first - let this be an example of your calling. To wake up the sleepers on watch....

[@georgesherfick2444]

@forest gump Assuming you are being sarcastic.

[@jamesdean1989]

@Janaina Ribeiro No, it was just on the way I was handling my problems...He probably saw the arrogance and pride and lack of humility, altho he didn't say that. He simply said "Are you sure you are a Christian? Because I'm just not seeing it" Now, I would be crushed if someone said that to me, then...I was arrogantly furious and stormed out of his office!!

[@jamesdean1989]

...just to clarify, my husband and I share an account...I am Nick's wife 👍

[@judyl.761]

Fantastic. I just prayed earnestly to God about how I can show my Bible study group that they are not really saved (except one guy). Then suddenly I see this in my recommended You Tube videos. Thank you Lord!!!

[@erichetherington9314]

Seems really presumptuous. How do you know they're not saved? Who are you to judge? The Episcopal Church has a phrase in a prayer--" and those whose faith is known to you alone"_-that you would do well to adopt and stop being so obsessed like so many Fundies on America about who's saved and who isn't.

[@wemuk5170]

@@erichetherington9314 Sometimes it is hard not to spot. Mine isn’t a fundie church at all & yet you hear a member, saying things like all humans are inherently & basically good deep down within. How on earth can someone possibly be a Christian when he doesn’t believe in the gospel truth in psalm 14:2-3 or Romans 3, that he is in fact, a sinner in need of the Saviour? I hadn’t done anything other than pray each time the Spirit reminds me of him in my memory. In my kind of church [denomination] many people believe they are saved just because they were baptised as infants. Just last weekend I met a young adult in my church who said she is a Christian to people when introducing herself, but when someone gently & informally asked how she came to realise she is a sinner, she said she didn’t know (if she was one). Another friendly follow-up was: so how did you become a Christian then? Again, she looked lost & said she didn’t know but later added she is a Christian & her mum arranged her (infant) baptism. In my church the clergy teach that it is Jesus alone who saves by grace alone through faith alone. But in our denomination, some members will always believe their infant baptism & weekly church attendance had saved them. If you are yourself not praying for or serving such, then perhaps, you could refrain from judging those who do. You could ask & check your own heart, whether you are judgmental of those who care more than you & I do, to risk their popularity out of genuine love for lost souls who think they are saved. It isn’t necessarily about actual sin. It is equally the belief that one is not truly a sinner at all, even though Rom 3:9-12 is so clear that this fact is universal that everyone without exception is guilty of treating themselves as god & not seeking God as if He’s not. It is impossible for anyone to be saved as a Christian, to call on Christ for salvation, if one is unconvinced at all that s/he is a sinner in the first place. Finally, whatever liturgy or prayers Episcopalians may use, there is no such thing as a private affair, personal secret faith known only to God (what nonsense that contradicts all Scripture) if you read 1 John. Even the faith of historical monks in community aren’t a secret private affair: they prayed in community & do a lot of good works amongst the poorest of the poor.

[@maxsmith3335]

@@erichetherington9314 Jesus Himself said it was possible to know. Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits.

[@erichetherington9314]

@@wemuk5170 What does "faith in Jesus" mean to you? What's the faith? that he was literally the son of God? If so, how do you visualize him? How can you say there is "no such thing as a private affair, personal secret faith known only to God"? What could possibly be the objection to that? Some folks may be believers but are not at liberty to speak out of fear for their lives. Or people may not feel strong enough to be a Christian in their environment (say, in a country with a different religion) but who may pray and believe earnestly. I'm astounded you think this impossible given the usual "requirement" that one have a "personal" relationship with Jesus, whatever that means.

[@erichetherington9314]

@@maxsmith3335 I read that that passage was mistranslated and should read "By their VEGGIES, you shall know them"....

[@tjarnie]

Pastor John has the anointing of the Holy Spirit.

[@erichetherington9314]

And the annoyance of the Holy Spirit.

[@trivellekoolaidrian6921]

No he doesn't, any true Christian as it inside of them, he serves no more importance than any other member of the body.

[@c.g.ryderii2405]

@@trivellekoolaidrian6921 So you're saying that John is not a believer?

[@robertj.simpson354]

Incredibly important question. Far too many people allow family, loved ones, and unregenerated church-goers to pass through life and die without being saved because we are too afraid of offending them. But how to know who is or is not saved? And, how to approach these people with gentleness and respect. Good advice in this video.

[@gerrydixon619]

Amen, the Lord never minced His words!!

[@johndisalvo6283]

"The one who says "I know Him" but does not do as He commands is a liar and the truth is not in Him" 1 John 2:4

[@frankie9899]

This is a discipleship verse not a salvation we know someone believes in Jesus when they say they do “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:10‬ ‭KJVA‬‬

[@Ashley-ng5rk]

IT Hi! I know you responded a few months ago but I felt the need to tell you that we can’t know if a person is saved simply because they say they believe. We will know who believes because of the fruit they bear in their spiritual walk. If a man/woman truly believes with his/her heart unto righteousness they will bear forth fruit, therefore doing as they are commanded. One cannot live in willful, non-ignorant sin, if they truly believe, and truly have the fear of God in them. Someone is not saved simply by stating they believe, otherwise anyone, who chooses to live whichever type of lifestyle they desire can be saved by just saying “I believe.” Believers are to be set apart because our belief should make us different from the world! We should not be fooled into thinking we can live however we desire and that this will sit well with God, because He said many will come in His name on that day, and He will say, “I never knew you. Depart from me, you doers of iniquity.” Matthew 7:22-23

[@aaronkennedy4662]

You cant use this to judge others though. Only to measure yourself towards Christ

[@eltonron1558]

Glad to hear you keep God's holy Sabbath as commanded by Jesus.

[@eltonron1558]

@@frankie9899 You have to do your confessions on judgment day to God.

[@JacquelineHahn1]

A beautiful and loving response. Taste and see, share your relationship with God with them. It worked on me - I was in a Lutheran Church from birth but God sent people to me to wake me up in my early 20's. By seeing their personal relationship with a living God who still speaks to His people I was convinced that even though I did believe in the Messiah I was not yet Spirit filled. They modelled what my heart really desired and from there it was a simple step to the full relationship with my beloved Lord.

[@Goldtaker23]

Jacqueline Hahn Im not sure im saved I think I am but need to know for sure ive struggled witj this for the whole 9 months I came to Christ I believe in Jesus with all my heart I desire Him and the relationship I want to hate and turn from sin but I'm struggling with so much and something seems missing any suggestions ? :/

[@benrex7775]

If you believe in him and you desire him then there is no question to be asked here. You are saved. But just because you are saved doesn't mean doubt and sorrow will disappear. Every christian has that and Satan loves to attack exactly these points. Just stay with Jesus, read the bible and go to a church no matter if you go through hardship or blessing.

[@graftme3168]

@@Goldtaker23 True believing is trusting the promise of salvation. Trust that His grace has given you eternal life and rest in that truth. The Bible says that "He who began a good work in you WILL complete it until the day of Jesus Christ." And, "the just shall live by faith." No matter how you feel, no matter how many times you screw up, no matter what others say about you, no matter how far away you FEEL from God, make up your mind to TRUST that He is doing the work He started in you and will complete it! Trusting God is the very power that saves! Trusting God is EVERYTHING! The Bible says, "We are they (believers) who worship God in spirit and put no confidence in the flesh." Trust HIM! Because you can't be good enough, Christ was the perfect sacrifice for your sins. Receive the promise by believing the grace of God is enough to save you! His grace was revealed by sending His Son to die in your place. There is NO OTHER WAY!

[@Goldtaker23]

@@graftme3168 Amen! Thank you! I was saved 5 years ago my mind has been messed up because I keep hearing different things like you can lose Salvation vs no you cant and a lot of other things just messing my head up I want to rest and trust in Him how can I do it and ignore my feelings and flesh ?

[@graftme3168]

@@Goldtaker23 Just make the choice. The Bible tells us that our own hearts are deceitful. So, going by feelings doesn't make any sense. Know that you can't do anything to save yourself and trust the promise! I know it's hard in the beginning but it gets easier as you PRACTICE trusting God. I talk to myself. I say things like, "Quit listening to your feelings, and trust God." Learn verses about God's promises, such as "He who began a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ." Talk scripture to yourself! That's what I did until I quit doubting. Now, I recognize those lies from the devil and from my own thoughts and can easily reject them. Even still, it all boils down to trusting God no matter what!

[@ompaloompa4970]

If you Never doubted your own christianity then you've NEVER examined yourself.

[@aprilholton1150]

The Lord has put this on my heart a lot lately. I have a couple people in mind where this subject is concerned. I know there life, I know how they live, what they say, what they don't say...............I really feel they aren't born-again. I feel I need to say something to them, and sooner than later. One person is moving away and at this time I don't think I will ever see them again, so I wanted to write a letter. I really feel in my heart they won't take what I have to say very good. But I care about them and their salvation!! I have been praying on this heavily lately.........God bless you all

[@aprilholton1150]

@Janaina Ribeiro I didn't mean to imply anyone is without sin----I am a sinner. My point was they really believe they are going to heaven and if Jesus came back today, they would not. I'm not talking about family members, most of them don't want any part of this Jesus talk. I look at it like a warning, but in a loving way. I have always had the spiritual push to warn others of hell. Which goes along with being-born again and the reality of the truth. I don't feel it is loving to know truth and NOT tell others. Isn't that why we get revelation from the Holy Spirit? I understand what they choose to do is on them, but I strongly feel I should say it (warning) before they die. God bless you sister in Christ

[@aprilo4447]

The other side to this coin is I see a lot of Christians deciding who is saved or not and what it looks like based on their standards for what a "real" Christian is or what "fruit" looks like to them. Many of our biblical heroes did things we would consider "unchristian". I feel like it's better to encourage than make presumptions. I've seen people call out others and thought "well this is a plank in your own eye situation..."

[@adamwoodie4029]

That was a truly beautiful Spirit-filled response and question.

[@sulongenjop7436]

Trust in Jesus without badmouthing others is a true salvation!

[@marcoramirez313]

Hello everybody!:) God bless you all and I ask humbly if y’all can pray for me, my family, and friends to be saved and to live a life that pleases God and to help many others be saved as well please and thank you all so much!:)

[@MiKnowIT]

praying, marco!

[@noone5014]

In my case, I was the one who left the church because God opened my eyes to His true gospel. I was once a part of the prosperity gospel movement and they think that I am not really saved because I left them.

[@yvettesterling1837]

Awesome answer Pastor John! I’m learning! ❤️

[@nagol5178]

Usually when someone ask this it's because of open sin. Christians who have private sins tend to be real vocal about Christians who have sins you can see. Somehow the private sins are forgiven and they are saved by Grace but the open sin is evidence the person is not a Christian.

[@Ov3rTheTop]

nagol5178 gotta agree kind of with this. It comes to judgement like that sometimes, however this pastoral wisdom is gold for those who are asking this question out of genuine concern.

[@ilo227]

Excellent comment, sir. This is what weighs most heavily on my heart especially when I hear someone condemning a brother for sin.

[@SuzanneBaruch]

I think it's a grave mistake to assume that only people with private sin approach others about their public sin. This feeds into our adversary's chief accusation against the brethren: that believers are actually hypocrites, because surely *no one* can earnestly love G-d so much that they actively avoid private sin.

[@DogSoldier1948]

We as Christians should approach a Brother/Sister when they are venturing off the path. You would approach someone in you immediate family if they were drifting off path. No difference with with a member of the body of Christ A Brother who Sins (Deuteronomy 19:15-21) Matthew 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican

[@kinde3254]

nagol5178 I understand your point, but the issue isn’t the friends “outward sin” (in the particular situation I have) as actually she has some good “works” but rather an utter lack of fruit of the Holy Spirit especially a lack of love for the Lord and for others.

[@augustine.c8204]

Thank God, praise God for this counsel. Thanks DG

[@TheAmaraHorton]

I worry if judgement pushes those away who might otherwise be saved. I’d rather loving them, connecting with them, and modeling a holy life will be more palatable to the unbelieving or those on thier way to believing. Humans don’t tend to appreciate judgement, gossip, or being told or made to feel they are less than. It’s such a tricky subject. Our actions to save could lead to other feeling alienated and worse... alone isolated and lonely. What terrible things the Devil can do with those who feel alienated and judged. Joy and love is always the answer. Save with love because God is love. Love the confused or unbelieving as God loves you and eventually that will lead them to Him in very beautiful and non judgmental way. Pastor John understands. Sharing and loving and offering yourself and God offers himself. Love. How do you save. Love. ❤️

[@graftme3168]

The Bible says they must hear the Word. Showing them the love of God is right, but we must SPEAK the truth to them. The Bible says that we will be held accountable for not turning others from their sin. It says that real love would speak truth to those who need to hear it. The Bible says that a parent that won't discipline their children hate them. It stands to reason that we hate those we won't confront with their sin. If we care about their soul, we would speak truth to them. I understand that discernment and timing makes a difference, and that our intentions are right, but we should seek God in prayer regarding our words toward them and act as He leads. I don't think it is ever appropriate to remain silent, unless they repeatedly refuse to listen to the truth.

[@graftme3168]

@Janaina Ribeiro Your first sentence is absolute truth! That is the very first truth one must acknowledge to experience true repentance. Without agreeing with God about our sinfulness, there can be no repentance. That's why those who think they are "good" can never experience repentance, nor God's forgiveness!

[@BT3701]

2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you-unless, of course, you fail the test? Has there been any changes in your life since you became a Christian? 2 Cor 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here! Or are you the same now as before? Does the Holy Spirit bear witness with your spirit that your a child of God? Romans 8:16 Hows your appetite for spiritual things? Are you hungry for the word of God? Do you constantly think about God? These are all marks of a genuine Christian.

[@anonymous_man7]

Truth

[@benitojohngenitojr.5608]

Only GOD in Christ Who Perfectly knows the Heart in Christ of Believers, and not Anyone here in This World.Just Obey the Commandment of GOD in Christ, saying:'LOVE GOD Above All and Love One Another.'

[@eltonron1558]

Yes. The ten commandments of which the Sabbath is a part.

[@c.g.ryderii2405]

Ephesians 1:17 much love brothers and sisters Jesus Christ is King

[@carolinestrotman8103]

i tried to do this to a friend of mine who belongs to a cult... she got really mad and the friendship was broken.. so sad.

[@ryanortiz5183]

caroline strotman what do u mean a cult? What was the name?

[@BNSFGuy4723]

caroline strotman Keep strong and trust Christ. Jesus tells us to pick up our cross daily and follow him. Jesus said that people would turn on their parents, kids, ( friends in your case). I am a closet Christian living in a Muslim home at the moment. I know when I finally tell my family after I move out, that it will hurt them... but I trust in Christ that these sufferings will be temporary and that in the Kingdom to Come, all tears will be wiped away. I will not forsake Jesus and the gospel for my family. For God is greater than they. It's part of being Christian Pray for them, like I pray for my family and friends God bless you

[@jennifermallard465]

Emre will pray for you

[@skystorm569]

@@BNSFGuy4723 I am humbled to greet you as a fellow sibling in Christ. Much love from America. I will keep you in my prayers, that God may keep you for all eternity, in the name of our Lord and Savior, the King of Kings, Lord of Lords, and one true Master, Jesus Christ. Amen.

[@josephsnisky1851]

Hay ! Wow ! You have the authority to play God I'm ready to fall to my knees . You've get t the power to say who's saved and who isn't . Holy smokes !

[@aliciab92989]

@Janaina Ribeiro Amen

[@joeasuncion7854]

We are saved by Grace. No one DESERVES salvation except the Fruit Inspectors. They know who's saved, And who's not.

[@TheJpep2424]

You will know them by their fruit

[@ompaloompa4970]

Haha fruit inspectors, that's so cute! 💖✝️🙏

[@ShanandHailey]

I inspect myself for fruits everyday…😂😂

[@benitojohngenitojr.5608]

Loving the Lord God Jesus Christ is Eternal, and More than Your Salvation, for Salvation Thinks of Self being Saved, but Loving the Lord God Jesus Christ Thinks of HIS LOVE, HIS GOODNESS, HIS KINDNESS, HIS COMPASSION, HIS MERCY and So Many Spiritual Positive Good Spirits in Christ.

[@Itz-All-Gud]

You dont tell them; if they can't hear scripture, our words are futile. Give them scripture and pray.

[@Itz-All-Gud]

***** An example for your reply: See Philippians 2:14, 15. And I do respect your opinion, however, opinions do little to create change anyone outside its holder.

[@brendonburdett7015]

"Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him." I John 3:6 NKJV

[@gu3sswh075]

@Janaina Ribeiro so how will they be saved? You might be their only hope. Yes, ultimately it’s up to their own decisions they’ve made in their lives to reject him. But there’s no reason why you can’t at least try

[@hunterterrell9930]

To someone who "has heard the words of the gospel" being an ambassador for christ to them is not just with your mouth, but your hands and feet and wallet.

[@col.sanders5987]

When a particular sermon has been moving to me, share it? Well, time to send them anything and everything by John Piper!

[@ronkebarber6238]

No one can judge another in salvation until the end. Even the whole earth is groaning for the manifestation of believers in Christ Romans 8:19. Don't judge anyone before the time 1 Corinthians 4:5, and in the meantime, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling! Philippians 2:12-13, but watch out so you yourself don't fall before He returns 1 Corinthians 10:12. First take out the beam from your eye...Matthew 7:5. If you really care about the salvation of their souls, get them studying the scriptures. The Holy Spirit does the rest, now it is left for them to believe..

[@jonw3152]

I'm not sure about this advice: I appreciate Piper acknowledges we're fallible judges but I think this probably needs more emphasis, after all, God is the only judge that matters. Of course some level of sincerely well intentioned warning can be appropriate but one has to be so so careful they aren't acting out the elder brother's role (in the parable of the prodigal son - being out of touch with God's grace in the face of obvious sin) or indeed pointing out the speck in someone else's eye and ignoring the plank in our own. Scripture says: If someone says with their mouth Jesus is Lord and believes in their heart God rose him from the dead then they are saved. The first bit is stated in the question ("professing") , are we really in a position to judge someone's heart?

[@tmhismybanner4498]

Jon W No but we can sure judge their fruit as it’s a reflection of what’s in the heart.,..and that’s biblical

[@lkfndr6045]

If you are trying to snatch someone from the grips of hell because they are possibly not saved then yes it's worth all the risks so long as you are walking in the Spirit, led by the Holy Spirit. I wonder how many professing carnal Christians have gone to hell because of fear of man dictating a born again believers' choice to not speak up for them.

[@JesusRodriguez-gu1wv]

@@tmhismybanner4498 Yes but remember. People look at the actions if others but God looks at and examines the heart and its inward and secret motives. There is also the issue of the fact that a person can be kind and loving and generous without the belief in Our Father but their works wont please Him. Likewise a Cheistian can do something and it can be rooted in selfishness. Itz much more complicated then say that person seems kind and giving because of his or hers actions and words. We cannot be so quick to judge our brothers and sisters by merely hearing their words it takes really getting to fellowship with them. I don't think its wise to just say I just dont feel like they are saved but you could be more sensitive to those things and if so Go with God but be cautious cuz it's easy for our hearts to trick us.

[@JesusRodriguez-gu1wv]

@@lkfndr6045 Well if it was for that sin alone then they would still be saved by the blood of Christ and his grace despite the persons sin. The only way that He would be condemned is if he truly did not believe in Christ and love him as much as he could, for humans, we can never love him as we should love Him cuz if we did we would not be sinners. Also I dont agree with the blunt and sometimes unsympathetic approach to telling people. I'm not saying its ineffective nor unwarranted at times, sometimes it's all you can do or it needs to be done but it wont work for EVERY situation. I dont think it should be a go to immediately cuz it may drive people away and not care about the truth being spoken. Some are not ready to here a truth and will be reopened by it without even bothering to think about it. Thsts the way it is sadly. We should look to treat people and sinners and ourselves as that sinners and imperfect. We cannot forget that just because we are saved doesn't mean we fail Christ and our father daily. Because we all sin.

[@gu3sswh075]

@@JesusRodriguez-gu1wv you’re trying to justify your cowardice. I’m not perfect in this area myself abs it seems you aren’t either. Just thought I should point that out.

[@m4641]

Can J. Piper truly know the heart of a man? I thought he had said in other discussions that only God knows the heart of man.

[@chainsawsurgeon6108]

My son is a baby in the LORD. He is a high functioning autistic and has ADD and is paranoid and schizophrenic. He can't focus on reading or understanding. He says he prays a lot, but he can't maintain a relationship with anyone but me. How is he going to be saved?

[@dank2476]

Whether a person is saved or not is by the will of God. One should not say a person is saved or not but rather to say in continuing this path will not lead to salvation.

[@JR2K80]

If the teachers of the gospel will study the Holy Spirit’s model, they will learn that we are to strike at conscience rather than at the natural affections, and teach men holy principles rather than remind them of their sorrows. - Charles Spurgeon

[@TOMMYSURIA]

Send them and email from a private account?

[@Tp_Sv]

Lol

[@barbarac481]

It's all about God's grace

[@gskoworodko]

As soon as he said "you don't see sufficient evidence", he went off the rails. Please tell us how much percentage improved affections as he put it exactly is "sufficient evidence", I am so glad my judge is the Holy God, not a man.

[@KOIFishcat]

He is not saved fruit inspector... I guess. Irony...

[@jaimedelcastillo1302]

Isnot about judging but about exhorting a professing believer to self examine just as we should also do it.If you see that somebody becomes an apostate,what do you believed it happened?was it true faith?

[@gu3sswh075]

@Janaina Ribeiro apostate means to fall away. I don’t understand what you’re even asking..

[@britt5186]

Heavenly Father send an old fashioned spirit revival to my husband

[@jailahbryel305]

We’re sinners going to hell but Jesus died so you can have eternal life. Repent and trust in Him only as your savior (not on being a good person)!

[@jesusdeity2010]

Gen 1:27. "And God made man according to His image and likeness and gave them authority". That got lost through the fall of man. But is freely returned by Jesus Holy Blood and Holy Spirit IN us. The Gospels were written by man like you and me. Eyewitnesses that saw God walking this earth in Christ. Healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature. He said: "If you see Me, you see the Father. The Father and I are one. You will understand that the Father is IN me and I am IN you. I will send Holy Spirit, the same as Me, He will be IN you, guide you into truth and will give you power. The same miracles I do, you will do too, etc ,etc". It is in John 14 up to 17. It is the ultimate conclusion of Gods word. Jesus, born by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God, God manifested on earth in a human body. Period. Completely normal btw. In Genesis He made man according to His own image and likeness. So what's the fuzz Jesus being the exact image of God in the flesh? He just is. Evenmore. Now by His Spirit we transform back to the same image! Hence the countless miracles i already have experienced. God has come full circle! "As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also ALL were made alive IN Christ to walk in Zoë = divine life again." Rom 5:18 The divine life the first Adam let go of has been freely returned to us by Christ's blood and Spirit. Because your imams never understood this, they mock, scoff, put it down, contradict it.... leading you away from your true identity in God. Heartbreaking. Same happens in Christianity btw. Most Christians think it is about trying to do good, dodging hell and going to heaven some day. Heaven already came down in Spiritform, for you to be indwelled by, be changed and walk in unselfish divine power and love. "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed into His image from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit." 2 Corinthians 3:17‭-‬18 AMP Thank you God for stopping down in Christ. Now we see what life is all about. Thank you for your Spirit in us that transforms us back to Gen 1:27. The image of Christ. Walking in unselfish divine power and love. You are so amazing.

[@williamgullett5911]

We are all told what we are to do to be saved. Anyone who questions someone else's faith is calling GOD a liar. There is no POSSIBLE way someone else can determine what GODs judgement on salvation will be for someone else. How presumptuous to question someone else's faith.

[@candicec6513]

I don't know if it's just getting where the Lord has blinded some lest they see. I don't cast my pearls before swine. One lady claims to be a believer but is into chakras and astrology and I won't sit and listen to the contradictions and claims about Jesus only to get the chakra and another lady the "I believe in karma" stuff any longer. By listening, and then countering, they heap up judgement on themselves. God just turns them over. Another lady ... nirvana, chakras. Same thing. I'm done. The hard one is exactly when to just key go.

[@ClassyElegant]

I'm African I get worried when Christians quote tiny buddha more than Bible

[@Justsomeguy82]

You will know them by their fruit

[@nikkig3810]

He wants us to tell them we’re having trouble with tender hearted ness that’s telling us to lie if we’re not having trouble with it

[@m.d.d4250]

No he wasn't, he was giving an example, he was demonstrating how you could move the conversation in the direction of finding out the other persons heart by sharing yours.

[@Yahshuaismyeverything]

It’s not really our jobs to determine one is saved or not that’s Gods choice to decide just help them not discourage them

[@PeaceFan1]

The Real Question is How do I tell my Roman Catholic Friends who think they are Saved but truly are not born Again and don't know JESUS!!! THAT is the Tricky one, Cuz they Really Believe they are saved and Have No Idea about being Born Again and that we are saved by Grace by FAITH, NOT Works!

[@GodlessGranny]

Why does it matter? If god decided to damn them before he created them, why do you care if they live as if they are chosen? Why burst their bubble and tell them, like the vast majority of humanity, god created them as a rejected one? God doesn't and never did love them? When your "gospel" is the bad news for the vast majority of humanity, why flaunt your "chosen one" status to the rejected ones?

[@3BadBostons]

I'm not even watching this video I'm just commenting on title.... You do not tell somebody that you don't think they're saved unless they tell you they don't believe Christ is the son of the living God.... I wonder what these fruit inspectors do to the baby Christians that are new to the faith....

[@almamoore8446]

Remember about the wheat and the tares.

[@TheRealChrist210]

Aye like we never really know who's saved in a way because if you think about it. God knows there future and you won't. They could get saved later in life without your knowing and it would in a way have always been that they were saved. They were saved even when they weren't. Not in your time but in all of God's saving he was saved.

[@lynebenoit5124]

What is the gospel of salvation???how does one get born again according to the Bible?? The Bible says it’s by BELIEVING in what Jesus Christ did on the cross, the finish work of Jesus, God loved the world that he gave us his only begotten son so who ever ( are you à who ever ) BELIEVE in him shall not perish but have eternal life, the point here is BELIEVING, We are saved by grace though faith in Jesus Christ. It’s a free gift from God not of any human efforts or following any traditions so no one could boast. No one in heaven will be able to boast, I love Jesus because I am saved not to be saved or to stay saved but because I am saved.

[@brendonburdett7015]

This is Gods standard of a true born again believer: "Whoever sins (even once) has never seen Him nor known Him." I John 3:6.

[@darcie7773]

Lies

[@brendonburdett7015]

@@darcie7773 Walking by sight and in the flesh...and You think You know Jesus.

[@darcie7773]

Brendon Burdett 1 John 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us

[@brendonburdett7015]

@@darcie7773 Has God removed Your sin from You. Yes/No?...Behold the Lamb before You answer.

[@darcie7773]

Brendon Burdett are you calling God a liar ? Yes or no? Romans 6:10 for the death He died to sin once and for all , but the life He lives to God. Romans 6:3 do you not know that all of us who have been baptised into Christ Jesus have been baptised into His death? Romans 6:14 for sin will have NO DOMINION over you , since you are not under law but grace Romans 6:17 but thanks to be to God that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient FROM THE HEART to the standard of teaching to which you were committed .. in other words it’s a continuous struggle and fight but now we have God who fights with us so we don’t have to feel condemned but repent and keep moving forward Jesus promised He would never cast us out ( bearing in mind you must be born again)

[@stpkopp]

Mat 7:3. It might be wise not to accuse others to be far from God

[@gerardomunoz7928]

Hear out Paul teachings and meditate on them. You’ll understand that it’s not judgment we are pursing, but Godly council in their life. If you love your brother help your brother.

[@douglaidlaw740]

What right do you have to act God to anybody? I keep quoting the example of the Prodigal's elder brother, pointed out to me by a book on prayer. He had lived a good life, and expected to go to Heaven. But at the last minute, he got self-righteous, and refused to go in. So there is no such thing as being "saved" so that your entrance to Heaven is guaranteed. When you see who is already there, you may think like him, "I am not goig to hang out with that lot," and you may refuse to go in the door, just like him. It is your own choice that locks you out; nobody will drag you inside. Jewish law allowed either son to claim his inheritance at any time; that is what the Prodigal did. It seems odd to most of us, which may be a source of difficulty. And a further thought is, that just like the fallen angels, you have the right to rebel, and be thrown out.

[@danielsiemers5704]

This is the peak of self-righteousness…

[@erichetherington9314]

You don't! Because You. Don't. Know.

[@Sam-fp8zm]

Calvinists don't want to know they are in error though. Their pride blinds them to what the bible really says, and they don't want to know.

[@garrygull8354]

I would ask a lot of so called pastors that and prob get the wrong answer. Matt 25 didn't I prophesy and do many wonderful works. Sounds like a pastor he says depart I don't know you

[@robertpunu4399]

: Because the Word of God clearly teaches that a person is saved by FAITH ALONE in Christ. This is evidenced by Romans 4:5; Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5 and hundreds of other Scriptures. Romans 4:5 states... "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness." The Bible couldn't possibly be any clearer on this matter. Salvation is through faith in Christ's righteousness alone (Romans 4:5-6). This has nothing to do with Christian living. James 2:18 speaks of the FRUIT of a man's faith, which should be evident in every believer's life; BUT, that is completely separate from the ROOT of a man's faith, which is by faith alone in Christ. Lordship Salvationists confuse the two, tragically to their own damnation.

[@johndisalvo6283]

Read 1John 2:4 Robert. Last I knew He was the LORD Jesus Christ! Your New Age doctrine is not found in scripture Robert. We can now separate Savior and Lord??? Wow! Doctrine of demons in these last days.

[@gebrelialem6041]

Thanks pastor john ! But we have a question , Why is a man who believe in Jesus ,who is forgiven by Christs death ,and justified by Christs resurection only , assured of grace only , why many preachers take this assurance of salvation by case of not bearing fruit to God? Is trusting Jesus and his finished work , with out anyfruit of us , now and in future , not enough for salvation? The just shall live by faith only. He stands by faith in Christ alive. Here, Christ alone is the proof of his faith . for he was crucified for his sin ,and resurected for his righteousness. Christ was died , but also raised from the dead , His life is the proof ,sign ,show, of the person that believes. Here Christ alone is our Faith and its proof ,sign ,show is ,He Stands Alive. In Him is our faith but more he is our faith (Christs faith) ,in Him we have lifr,but more he is our life,in him we have righteousness but more He (God) is our righteousness. Here ,Christ alone , stands for us in the sight of God. Who ever believed in him shall not be ashamed. For his sake only ,God saved us for his glory. So , why preachers made believers who put their trust in Jesus to be ashamed by him ? Fruits of good works are necessary but not assurance of salvation. If you made fruits assurance of salvation , you may say (judge) believer with fruit will be saved but believer with out fruit will not be saved. Believer can't be ashamed by Christ because of no fruit. Christ alone for salvation is enough ,not Christ + fruits. So , fruits of salvation , that is good works are necessary but not made the salvation of Christ up and down, save and lost. But they testify ,show,mark ,he is saved by faith only. Again this show or unshow ,cant made salvation unsecured. For we are saved by grace through faith ,its Gift of God ,not from us or our works (fruits) . from this assurance we give fruit to God as much as possible by his spirit and grace power. So , i believe we are saved for good works , but are those good works really play a role in the salvation given in Christ by grace as agift alone? So ,how do we know true believer and not true believer ? Is not simple faith in Christ that saves? For its not our faith but jesus ,who saves us? Why is faith viewed as Savior? In order to be saved ,do we have to save (hold) God by faith alone or by works alone ? Or by faith that works? Does God live in us by Good works of faith (by trusting him living for his will) ? Or God lives in us by faith in Jesus because Christ lives by trusting God for his will by works? What is the goal of salvation ,to work for God or God work for you, and you praise him for his glory. But i know sure ,fruits are necessary ,but you may clarify the meaning of fruits ? Thanks for helping us for Christ's sake.

[@waynejeez5620]

You DON'T tell him. You preach the gospel to a person and go on about your business. God's ways are "higher" yet "simpler. You DO tell the Lord that you preached the gospel to the person. The Scripture says, "the LORD knows them that are His". God NEVER told us to then "weigh in" on someone's "salvation. If a minister thinks something is "off", they should "report it to the Lord". The "new birth" is a work of the Spirit. After a period of time, if a person's "behaviors" don't seem to reflect their "union" with Christ, we have to be mindful of "staying away from certain practices" they are "revealing". A little leaven, leavens the whole lump. You ALWAYS protect the "flock" from anyone or anything, that would seek to steer them away from that union they have with Christ. The Lord already said, "it would be better for them to hang a millstone about their necks, and to be cast into the depths of the sea, than for them to offend one of these little ones. The Lord is patient, and He sends His servants to those who have seemingly, "gone off the grid". The response will either be that the person becomes broken and humbled, or the arrogance against the Lord AND His servant will "intensify". If the latter, you DEFINITELY "shield the sheep" from that person, but keep them in prayer. It's about the minister obeying the Lord, like Nathan did regarding David in II Samuel 12. In that case, David was humbled and repented, which is EXACTLY what God requires. God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.

[@michaelstanley4698]

And, if it's your family members, or friends?!!!! Love and concern are not opposites... Good answer, but, you do not define 'sin' from its many definitions in the bible, much less its lexicon definitions, such as ' every aberration from the truth'! What gives?!!!!!!!

[@nathanmark8765]

Everyone is saved. This is only fear mongering. Our Father is forgiving. No one is left behind. Know who your God is. He is not what you think. Far from it. Cheers

[@WhitePikminPro]

I guess I'm not saved

[@Ov3rTheTop]

Justin Tarr if youre concerned for your salvation then you're acknowledging Christ, His mercy, the grace of The Father. The question you must ask is if you want this salvation? If so, just read, soak in the Gospel, and talk to God for comfort and for conviction. I will be praying for you friend.

[@rickywestley6820]

I hope Gods mercy will be with you

[@johndisalvo6283]

It's not too late Justin.

[@Mamalikesthebassdrop]

If u are here watching this you are in the sanctification process after being saved unless someone is making u watch this

[@tylert455]

ask them how and when they got saved! Basically their testimony

[@trivellekoolaidrian6921]

Nice guy, he's a bit too effeminate for me though. Prefer Voddie Bauchum or Alistair Begg

[@bovezinhd8052]

He sounds a lot different when he's preaching

[@frankie9899]

This guy teaches a works based salvation we are saved by faith alone in Jesus once saved always saved “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.” ‭‭John‬ ‭6:47‬ ‭KJVA‬ “and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.” ‭‭John‬ ‭10:28‬ ‭KJVA‬‬ How we know someone is saved is when they say they believe in Jesus “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:10‬ ‭KJVA‬‬

[@TheBananacoco12]

Works do not save a man, but true faith will always bring works. If you say you love God, and yet you live like the devil, the truth is not in you. "No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’sb seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. By this, it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother." Also, I'm not saying that Christians can't occasionally sin, I'm saying that true Christians don't live in their sin. God bless.

[@frankie9899]

Rain “For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. For that which I do, I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. For the good that I would, I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: but I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭7:14-25‬ ‭KJVA‬‬ We are saved by faith alone are you saying the apostle Paul wasn’t truly living in his sin the apostle Paul was a True Christian and lived in his sin

[@TheBananacoco12]

@@frankie9899 You are the problem of modern of day Christianity; you are the reason why people think Christians are all hypocrites. By that logic, you can rape, murder, steal, etc.. because you asked "Jesus into your heart" 30 years ago (despite having zero fruit of being actually saved.) True Christians will have works that testify that their conversion was, in fact, true. "But someone will say, *You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe-and shudder! Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless?* Regardless, you can lead the horse to water, but you cannot make him drink. "The difference between a sinning unbeliever and a sinning believer is that one loves his sin while the other hates it. The believer who stumbles in his walk with the Lord regrets it, confesses it, wishes to never do it again and seeks to appropriate God’s power and grace to avoid it. He doesn’t consider how much he can sin and still be considered a Christian. Rather, he considers how he can avoid even the appearance of sin in the future." A true Christian cannot and will not live in his sin. www.gotquestions.org/sin-Christian.html

[@trevoryoung3529]

Truth.

[@penttimuhli9442]

@@frankie9899 Sounds like you're twisting the message of grace into license for sin. Paul himself said that the grace of God teaches us to deny ungodliness

[@wjm5972]

Very Judgmental pastor John

[@paulvaughn9730]

You cannot fake Christianity thats is false teaching wow on to you brother I will pray for you amen

[@davidkarr5119]

I am assuming here, that you are a fruit inspector. The Bible teaches no wherein scripture are we are Saved by how much fruit we produce. Try this instead. We are Saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, not of Any work or effort we put in. ( Ephesians 2:8,9 ). You are adding works to Salvation, so that disqualifies grace. ( Romans 4: 4,5). Why are you are teaching people a wrong & another gospel, apostle Paul talked about people who would teach another gospel, which is not another gospel, which only leads to a false teachers destruction. I will pray for you.🙏🙏

[@davida6146]

In other words... just say: “sorry dude, God hasn’t elected you yet. Good luck”

[@SimpleAmadeus]

That's not what I take from this video at all. Also, election is not something that happens during life. All the elect were elected before God even created the world. Rebirth and sanctification are the things that happen during life.

[@aliciab92989]

@@SimpleAmadeus Amen

[@shaunmorgan1425]

I think I'm going to stick with the words of Jesus on this one. Anyone who professes Jesus to be Lord is saved. It is impossible to say that Jesus is Lord unless The Holy Spirit is speaking through you. If God's spirit is in you, You are saved.

[@takundadanha5250]

Shaun Morgan so what do you say to Matthew 7:21 where he says not everyone who says lord lord will enter the kingdom of heaven but only he who does the will of the father. If everyone who says Jesus is lord is saved what does this verse mean?

[@shaunmorgan1425]

@@takundadanha5250 I believe in that verse He is talking about people who will tell Him they've been a good person, didn't steal, didn't lie, didn't murder, helped people in need etc... They will think they have been good enough to enter heaven. They will have known about God. They will have known about Jesus. But they will have never accepted Jesus into their hearts as their savior. They will have never actually given their lives to Him. So they will not enter heaven. Jesus said to do the will of The Father is to believe on the one He sent. To do the will of God is to believe in Jesus. It's to believe Jesus is God's Son, that He is savior, and died on the cross for our sins. The book of 1 John talks about this in depth. 1 John:5.

[@takundadanha5250]

Shaun Morgan but it also says that they prophesied in his name and cast out demons in his name and performed many miracles in his name? And then Jesus said and I will declare to them, “ I never knew you; depart from me you who practice lawlessness.” So once again I ask if people cast out demons in the name of Christ they clearly would say that Christ is lord as they will do. So I don’t think your interpretation is correct.

[@takundadanha5250]

Shaun Morgan what I’m asking you is these people clearly confess with their tongues that Jesus is lord but they didnt know him so they don’t go to heaven it’s not a works based salvation which is what I’m assuming you think Mr Piper was teaching.

[@takundadanha5250]

Shaun Morgan simply put not everyone who says lord lord will enter the kingdom of heaven, if you disagree you’re not really fighting me you’re fighting the words of Jesus.

[@eltonron1558]

None are yet saved, and Jesus is not yet Lord. Sunday keepers are part of Christianity (?) that has allowed satan to convince MEN that the Sabbath is Sunday. So the vast majority of Christianity has allowed clergy to dictate the Lords day, while scripture is opposite.

[@erichetherington9314]

You don't! Wow, the presumption of all this. How the heck do you know anyone is or isn't saved? Are you God?

[@SimpleAmadeus]

If someone is willingly drowning themselves in sin, or show zero evidence of having a relationship with Jesus, chances are high that they aren't saved. We have the bible, we are not without knowledge. You can't help your brethren by playing dumb.

[@erichetherington9314]

@@SimpleAmadeus It all depends on whether one accepts the orthodox theology about being "Saved." I contend that we do not know what happens after death, and all the Bible verses in the world (like no man comes to the father but by me) do not provide one iota of actual evidence. These are BELIEF statements that are impossible to actually verify. Judging people's Salvation based on them isn't valid. Is your name Amadeus because you like Mozart or because you are beloved by God?

[@SimpleAmadeus]

@@erichetherington9314 My online alias comes from a bit of play with vowels, to a name I liked the sound of. Now that I know what it means and converted to Christianity I do notice that its meaning carries.... meaning. I think about this every now and then. I'm a bit puzzled, are you Christian, atheist, or from a different religion? My first impression was that you were speaking as a Christian with a dislike of human judgement.

[@erichetherington9314]

@@SimpleAmadeus I was raised mainline Christian in the U.S. Then I got educated. No doubt Christianity has been good for some, not so much for others. I object to the slavish subservience to the Bible as if it itself were God rather than a pointer to what is supposedly divine. I also object to people being close-minded and cruel based on that book.

[@SimpleAmadeus]

@@erichetherington9314 That's unfortunate. I agree that many supposed Christians abuse scripture to submit others to their own will, rather than submitting themselves to God's will. I hope you and God can find peace with each other regardless.

[@mr3817]

John Piper, you preaching that "The Gospel" is believing you were created to be a worshipper is SO FAR from Biblical, according to your own measure, you are Unsaved.

[@jeremyfrancispiano2]

So basically, be a genuine fake. Ok.

[@merdaz5742]

Jeremy Francis no

[@simonlaura]

this dude is a quack.