Despecialized vs 4K83 vs Disney+ vs Official Blu-Ray - RETURN OF THE JEDI - Star Wars Changes

[@HelloGreedo]

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[@LuisTheImpalerArt]

Off topic. I'm glad to see that we both got the same Superman. That Superman was given to me on Christmas day, i was like 4 or 5 years old.

[@jcatskywalker886]

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[@jcatskywalker886]

Also I happen to have both the original version of this Trilogy and the new version an original version on VCR tape which has been totally unaltered by technology of today and a new version which has been DVD version

[@alesenatorephoto]

Vader's NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO for me will always be the single worst change. I can stand the others, but that one just kills one of the best scenes of the whole saga

[@TheyMightBeBricks]

I couldn’t agree more. It immediately took me out of the movie, guess I’ll have to stick with my DVD lol

[@TheyMightBeBricks]

@@Voltar Guess what Voltar it didn’t, in this timeline we have the 2011 Blu ray version with the added “No!” Do your research

[@alesenatorephoto]

@@Voltar I also hate vader's NOOOOO in revenge of the sith, again it kills the moment, is almost as if Lucas doesnt trust his audience to understand the character's feelings without a line of dialogue

[@alesenatorephoto]

@@TheyMightBeBricks the og scene is so powerful, for real one of my top 10 fav scenes in cinema

[@lookingforwookiecopilot]

Its one of those changes (like Greedo shooting) that makes you question if George really knows anything about scene structure? Its also like the addition of "close the blast doors" that makes you think George felt he needed to dumb down these movies because we could figure out for ourselves that someone off screen would have ordered the doors be closed? ,...or that we could tell that Vader was going through an inner conflict type of moment!

[@jc_va]

"NOooooo" is how I feel about that change. It is the only reason I strictly prefer the unaltered. As a kid, I perfectly understood the uncomfortable silence Vader felt, the pain, the conflict of his own son dying, until he makes the final decision to save him. You don't need to have those emotions exaggerated, like a cartoon. George probably wanted it to parallel Episode 3, but then forgot he made Anakin not silent in that scene with Mace too, and Hayden's performance actually justified the "NO!"

[@Animefan-uk8pw]

I never got why people hated that scene and still do. I swear they don't even understand the context of the scene and just hear Vader saying no and complain like they're 5 years old. That is probably about as dumb as The Cosmanaut Variety hour and Schapralis Production, (forgot how to spell their names) saying that the title a new hope is stupid. I swear they don't even understand the context of the episode name for every Star Wars movie. (Ignoring the Sequel trilogy)

[@spectrobit5554]

​@@Animefan-uk8pw Do you ever wonder why masked heroes are taking off their helmets all the time in movies? Why Spiderman's mask has eyes that emote in the MCU? Because it's hard to get an emotional performance out of a static mask. Yet, George Lucas managed to do it. Vader, without speaking a word, and with his helmet on, conveyed everything he wanted to convey, it is a moment of cinematic genius, and all of that goes to waste because Lucas wanted to tell instead of showing, for god knows what reason. The "context of the scene" is precisely why Vader doesn't need to say "no".

[@Balthazar2242]

@@Animefan-uk8pw For me it was the way he said it. They must have had a problem deciding whether it should be _haden_ yelling it or _James Earl Jones._ So it felt weird when he gives this crisp, theatrical, musical "No~!" Rather than a raspy, pained scream of agony.

[@rickygforce4217]

@@spectrobit5554 Another great example is Master Chief in the Bungie-era Halo games. Famous example of someone whose gestures/mannerisms described everything he was feeling well enough. Then they made him take off his helmet and speak more in the new (really bad) TV show. It was not received well.

[@Ryuk45]

@@spectrobit5554 *John Williams managed to do it Lucas didn't direct RotJ either

[@andrewrodriguez8428]

I would definitely buy Harmy’s edition or 4K83 just to not hear Vader yell out “nooo!!!”

[@barkley8285]

just watch your rotj dvd from when you were a kid

[@andrewrodriguez8428]

@@barkley8285 I have both the unaltered and SE on DVD, but I would like to see the unaltered version in a Blu-ray or 4K format.

[@endless_limes]

Hands down the worst change they've made

[@barkley8285]

@@andrewrodriguez8428 I have harmys on blu ray. Sucks they never released the special edition on blu ray without the vader NOOOO

[@canuck21]

Don't ever buy those editions. The people who made those edits don't make money out of them. The people who sell those are ripping people from something they have not put any effort on.

[@nickfield1569]

In this age of streaming there's no reason why they can't include all the various releases on Disney+; the originals from 1977, 1980 and 1983; the 1997 special editions; the 2004 DVD versions; 2011 Blu Ray versions; and the 2019 Disney+ versions

[@DATFilms]

Imagine a pre-watch selection list with "pick your changes" for each movie. I think it's possible, though it would take a lot of work.

[@darthkurland]

@@DATFilms it’s theoretically possible through seamless branching.

[@DanielSilva-nr2cd]

Seamless branching is quite an easy java code to implement, even DVDs could do it back in the day. On a streaming platform it would be a piece of cake, really.

[@jordanwardle11]

Legal things I would imagine. Lucas seems hellbent on making sure the theatrical releases never see the light of day again

[@gr-8166]

According to the author of Star Wars Archives the idea to ever release an “original” cut of the film is financially way too much and isn’t worth the venture.

[@nickrodriguez4294]

I'm 55 years old I was in the theatre in 1977 watching Star Wars. So to get this version again.... well all I can say is that so grateful! Thank you!!

[@tordb]

Altering movies should be a crime

[@Logan912]

Not as long as the original version is still available which is the issue with the Star Wars original trilogy. I think the same goes for Rush's Vapor Trails album too.

[@TequilaToothpick]

Especially when you are not the director of them. Lucas only directed one of the original 3 movies.

[@sr_ryoadm]

😂😂😂 imagine saying this sht

[@sr_ryoadm]

​@@TequilaToothpicknah, real fans make great improvements with fan edits and they are very respectful with mr George

[@Starwarsfearsome]

A director is allowed to improve on their craft

[@CaretakerWanted]

While the Jedi Rocks scene is garbage, my least favorite change has to be Vader yelling "NOOO" in ROTJ. Just...wow. What a way to kill the moment. The silence is what did it. An emotionless mask, yet you can feel so much emotion based on his movements.

[@barkley8285]

yea at this point I will only watch ROTJ with my harmy dvd or the 2006 dvd. Never watching ROTJ on streaming services for the rest of my life until they remove that stupid fuck line. Ruins the whole film, honestly ruins the whole series at that point.

[@jeffreyali1456]

@@barkley8285 oh calm down, it wasn’t that bad, get over it

[@barkley8285]

@@jeffreyali1456 nah I dont think I will. Vaders no ruins that entire moment. That is the climax of star wars, therefore ruining the entire saga at that point. Vaders noooo is so cringe and out of place and takes you out of the scene. It is the worst change in the entire series by far. I cant watch that scene ever again with that "nOooOOOOoo"

[@Aaron-od9ul]

Let me play devil's advocate here: Someone that never saw RotJ at all probably wouldn't mind the "Noooo" if they saw that version first, since it at least sounds like it COULD have been there originally, like in an alternate timeline, if you will. This is why the Semi-Specialized version is probably my favorite. Old Jabba band, no "Nooo" and NEW ending.

[@jeffreyali1456]

@@barkley8285 looking back on it, I understand it’s cringe and while it does take away the moment, especially how his no sounds, ruining the whole series is a giant stretch there so again, get over yourself

[@pinpunk13]

If Disney sponsored this video, does it mean they are interested in releasing the unaltered versions?

[@TheyMightBeBricks]

My thoughts exactly

[@XenusDARK]

The game is made by a company not owned by Disney. It’s just a licensed Disney game. I got excited too until I looked that up.

[@EhvinnTee]

Disney is a big, big, big company, with many, many, many departments. It's safe to say whatever department is in charge of handing out sponsorships to KZbinrs for some mobile game they got going on is not in any way the department in charge of making big movie release decisions.

[@HabitualJoker]

@@VoltarLucas has lied and changed his mind about many things. Take his words on the topic with a grain of salt.

[@TheyMightBeBricks]

The main change from any of the original trilogy that I prefer is Victory Celebration in ROTJ. My LEAST favorite change is Vader shouting “No!” before throwing Palpatine over the edge.

[@TheSixthDoctor]

This.

[@Deathpool_04]

That’s probably mine too. I liked it when Vader didn’t say anything because you had to imagine what he was thinking.

[@kartoffel4870]

The celebration change is soooo bad, the gungas are incredibly annoying and I hate seeing them, the addition of the hangar of storm troopers in episode IV when Han is chasing the group and then is chased was a much better addition

[@TheyMightBeBricks]

@@kartoffel4870 The music bro, Victory Celebration is the name of the song. It’s miles better and more at heart than Yub Nub

[@kartoffel4870]

@@TheyMightBeBricks Ahhh, yeah that’s a good change, my mistake sorry

[@harrypsaunders]

I'll never understand why George Lucas changed Anakin's force ghost in Return of the Jedi to Hayden Christensen. Surely Luke would have thought "Who the hell is that guy?" since he'd only seen an old fella behind the mask when he helped Vader remove his mask.

[@jameswyman5752]

The phantom menace was going to be the first in 3D, but that was all scrapped.

[@EACru2002]

The biggest thing to me about the Disney+ releases (based on the unreleased 3D print versions) is the color grading. Prior to that, at that point the most widespread version was the DVD versions, along with the Blu-ray which were based on the DVD versions, and those had really bad color grading imo. It felt like whoever did the color and/or Lucas, who ultimately approved them, got too caught up in the "over-digitalization" style that was common with rescans for DVD versions of classic films at the time. Both oversharpened, yet too fuzzy at the same time from DNR. Wayyy too blue, again very common with color grading for DVD at this time. HDTVs were really taking off among the mainstream market at this time, and they tended to do blue colors very well, so a lot of coloring around this time leaned towards a blue tint. A really blue, striking image was often associated with being high def. If you look at the Disney+ versions, they're much closer to the 4K83 versions in terms of color and tint which was how they originally looked upon release. Much warmer and natural looking in so far as it properly looks like a film that was shot in the 80's, versus trying to color it to make it look more "modern" at the time (which ended up not actually being "modern," it was just another fad/trend for the time as we've moved back towards more natural coloring again).

[@barkley8285]

harmy > disney+

[@EACru2002]

@@barkley8285 Harmy's version is still based on the DVD/Blu-ray transfer last time I checked.

[@SeyidAr]

I'd would like a despecialized version of the Disney+ release. That would be like an upgrade to the 4k83 version.

[@rmn070]

Ikr I love the colour grading on the newest version. It’s the best part of the version IMO. Much better than the previous Blu Ray and DVD. The worst part of the newest version is definitely the DNR though.

[@awesomebrand6122]

@@SeyidAr Despecialized Disney + releases exist from the same forum you can get 4k77. D+77/80 & OTD83.

[@mitchvechart7164]

I feel like George put the “NOOOOOOOOOO!” In Return of the Jedi on purpose just to fuck with people.

[@Jonas-ej7id]

To be honest, I prefer the 'look' of the Disney+ in majority of the comparisons. I wish there was a despecialised version with the look of the Disney+ version.

[@Danieru-San]

I think there is. It's called D+83 or something. It may be what you're looking for but i'm not 100% sure

[@Jonas-ej7id]

@@Danieru-San Yea I watched it It's the best

[@7thwheel]

fun fact. The actress who originally played Oola in ROTJ came back and filmed the scenes for the special editions. Someone at Lucasfilm went to her gym and knew she was in better shape then she was in 1983.

[@aznsbd]

I never got the logic of changing Anakin's Force Ghost to Hayden Christensen. Luke never knew his father when he was young and wouldn't even recognize his force ghost.

[@danp2306]

Also, the actor David Prowse was 6'7" and then they did prequels with this short, skinny actor - it was just stupid all around.

[@FishwicksREAL]

Actually, that was sort of explained. The fight on Mustafar shows Anakin being left a newer complete cripple with only his robotic arm surviving. He was put into the suit, essentially having his limbs reconstructed. So he could be taller.

[@DeathhhStarrr]

well the original looks too old. anakin died at 40 something.

[@DeathhhStarrr]

if you want to see how vader would look like. you can see hayden now at 43. i think thats what vader would’ve looked like

[@CrazyBlackMan108]

I've always felt that Vader yelling no has to be the worst change George has ever made after the original release. Not only for Jedi, but the entire saga. I'm more okay with Greedo shooting first / nearly the same time as Han than I am with Vader saying no in that scene.

[@Kevmaster2000]

Not even close. The Jabba’s palace song is atrocious.

[@CrazyBlackMan108]

@@Kevmaster2000 nah, I don't think either song makes the film better or worse. At least Jedi rocks sticks with the original weirdness of Lapti Nek.

[@HabitualJoker]

Jabba being in ANH is the most atrocious thing George ever conjured. He was an asshat in the 90s and has kept it up since.

[@namikstudios]

@@HabitualJoker Jabba was always meant to be in A New Hope though, they even filmed his scene with a stand-in actor at the time. When they put that scene back in they simply put a CGI Jabba over the top of the original actor.

[@HabitualJoker]

@@namikstudios I’m aware. Maybe the series would have been different had he stayed in the original film as a human. Who knows. George was always changing his mind. Regardless, the final trilogy that we got is worse with Jabba in it for about 10 separate reasons.

[@hellerjon1]

There are a few nice changes but they're usually the subtitle ones like the door at Jabba's palace. I always felt that the original song sung at Jabba's palace was more fitting as well. It sounds like a real language while the new song's language sounds like baby talk. First song also had an awesome bass line.

[@g0atfather]

I like continuity changes and never minded the Anakin being a force Ghost. Tbh, not replacing the original, but it would be cool to see Hayden Christensen play Anakin in the Vader unmasked scene. He's nearly the same age as Anakin was in that (off by 5 years), so it'd be cool to see how he'd play it. Even if just as a promo thing.

[@HOTD108_]

In my opinion, real life is more important than in-universe canon, so I'd rather the original versions be preserved for historical purposes.

[@lookingforwookiecopilot]

@@HOTD108_ Plus they're simply better movies.

[@samuraigeorge71]

that would just be another reason to hate the prequels.

[@Deathpool_04]

@@HOTD108_ Pretty much that. Shaw’s ghost makes more sense for real life reasons but Hayden makes more sense in terms of what the continuity of Star Wars is now. Anakin was in his 40s when he died and only looked old because of his turn to the dark side. If it’s supposed to “heal him” why not heal the stuff that only happened to him because of the dark side?

[@MrGuitarJockey]

They should've at least changed obi-wan's force ghost to Ewan McGregor. Looks way out of place in the newer versions.

[@ciscodeer9094]

Why couldn't Lucas leave the original trilogy alone ? it was fine the way it was, but no he had to CGI the crap out of it. Look at Cameron he didn't mess Terminator up with CGI in 1984 and it's a modern movie masterpiece. Well what done is done there is no going back.

[@javi9436]

Thank God we have the Despecialized editions by Harmy.

[@peanutbutterjeff5364]

I can’t wait for 4K80. Last time I checked, 3 of the 6 reels were at 35% completion and the rest were 100^. Now, only reel 2 is at 62%, and I can’t wait. I have the despecialized trilogy, and the two 4Ks, but having the full 4K set is what I’m really waiting for.

[@ColonelFrontline1152]

3:35 3:35 - Skips 3:35

[@johnwerner69]

Can we just appreciate that HelloGreedo has been talking about the original cut and changes in them for 10 years now!? And yet still no update if they are coming out…

[@_.KLYDE._]

That's what the Despecialized versions are for

[@HabitualJoker]

@@_.KLYDE._we shouldn’t have to resort to that, though.

[@theninjamaster67]

@@_.KLYDE._ The fan made versions are fantastic but we shouldn't have to get those versions as the solution they should be a nice addition so we can have a few other slightly different versions but we should be able to buy a big box set like the Blade Runner box set that had every version except the final cut.

[@Matt561]

Having a Disney based product as a sponsor on this video is absolutely hilarious

[@DanielMazz]

I've only seen 2004 version

[@Sasi-ex5yn]

The Buckethead of Star Wars!

[@qasimmir7117]

The worst and the most disgraceful alteration was removing Sebastian Shaw as Anakin Skywalker’s force ghost.

[@yoavnieto2401]

true

[@catpin]

Boycott Revenge Of The Sith

[@MCLegoboy]

They really butchered this movie, and it breaks my heart as it's my personal favorite. Thankfully, the space and ground battles in the finale are unchanged, but I hate the Sarlacc beak, Lapti Nek is the superior song, and while I will accept the Celebration song and visuals of the Galaxy welcoming the demise of the Empire as that's actually pretty nice to see with the greater context of all the other movies, they're definitely playing Yub Nub in Bright Tree Village even though the change makes it seem like they're playing the new song. I grew up watching the 1990 VHS release, that's the version I know best, and anything before 1997 is a version everyone should have the opportunity to see. I dare not think what atrocities could have been commited should the 3D release have happened.

[@allanstpaul279]

I really can't take it GET RID OF VADER SAYING NOOOO, go back to him being silent and just Reacts.

[@miniroll32]

"This change was added to add realism to breaking speed" *more realism added to floating bike that travels 80+ mph, through dense forests with teddy bears*

[@alancheatley4378]

I was there for the original versions, saw them in the cinema here in the UK. Big love to the music of Star Wars, Yub Nub I do miss from ROTJ, but the Victory music is great too!! Yes I prefer a 4K version of the original movies to be released, but these fan versions are AMAZING!!

[@oubrioko]

Agree While _Yub Nub_ is a tad silly, it more precisely synchronizes with the buildup and crescendo of emotions onscreen as each of the principles individually reunite with Luke. Nevertheless, _Victory_ is indeed impressive.

[@NewOrderOfAlexandria]

Jedi Rocks is an unforgivable addition, it's like Disney already bought Star Wars, long before the deal was even made...

[@inkblotthecolt]

Hearing you go on a rant about background characters like that takes me back to the days when you still wore the actual greedo mask

[@palpatinerocks3260]

9:32 I believe that might be an error on the despecialized edition here. As although hard to notice. The shot of palpatine falling down the reactor shaft was actually changed from the originals to the 97 special editions and later. 3 differences were in the shot. 1. Palpatine falls a slightly different direction. 2. The lightning was barely colored in the original. 3. The explosion after he falls slightly altered as well.

[@alfredooliva5175]

Anakin Force Ghost at the end is the only CGI addon that makes sense. That was when Anakin really "died"

[@dankerbell]

never minded hayden ghost personally

[@AndrewChapman]

On the 2019 Disney+, Sebastian Shaw's eyebrow removal was redone slightly to look a bit better. Apart from that, change of 20th Century Fox and Lucasfilm logos and the obvious colour grading, don't think much else was altered from the 2011 Blu-ray.

[@jaybristowe2346]

ROTJ is the only one where the changes actually really bother me

[@wondernoodles9394]

Gladly i still watch my Star Wars original 1995 trilogy vhs Box set and i still have the kellogs coupon sticker 🤣👌🏽

[@arricammarques1955]

The 143 minute directors cut of Star Wars would be amazing.

[@number1fool]

Hayden shouldn’t be the force ghost

[@t7489]

The people who agree with you are unfortunately dying off. I’m fine with people loving the prequels even though they’re dogshit. But no part of them belong in the orige trige.

[@number1fool]

@@t7489 the prequels suck. No debating that

[@aitchay2084]

I really like the lighting and coloring of the Disney+ versions

[@apocryphal_man]

The irony of Disney indirectly sponsoring the video is delicious.😊

[@X2Magneto]

I agree, the "no!" is easily the worst change, perhaps the top of the entire list of changes done to any of the films. It was a great showing of how dialogue isn't always necessary even when players are masked. The unchanging mask and the silence emphasize the moment.

[@pickenchews]

For me, the worst change is by far replacing Lapti Nek, but i can totally see why ppl would choose "No" given how it ruins the actual climax of the whole story. What i find notable is how both of these "worst changes" are in ROTJ. Definitely the movie worst damaged by the changes

[@LazyGyro]

I know for a fact that hoodie is uncomfortable in the back

[@talondiwisch5206]

I like the “No” because it shows how much it really affected him before he made the decision.

[@captainrobots1]

At least adding hadens head was a change that made sense.

[@emoxvx]

Holy shit, a two and a half minute ad at the beginning of the video...

[@dextergrif]

4K83 is brilliant. Just got a chance to watch it on the 40th anniversary of the movie and it was wonderful.

[@calebcustombricks2631]

Unlisted but in the playlist... you should name this part 3 to fit with the others Greedo!

[@calebcustombricks2631]

Oh nevermind it’s not talking specifically about Disney + changes... don’t mind me!

[@DominickRuocco]

I always enjoy these videos and keep forgetting how much stuff was actually added to the original trilogy.

[@HabitualJoker]

Yeah, it’s sad to think that a lot of people today probably believe that the Special Editions are the original versions of the OT. Hopefully that changes once George becomes one with the force.

[@DanteDeGraaf]

This is going to sound odd... I really don't care about any of this, but you're explanation and break down hooked me.. no skipping for changing the speed. I wish more YT's were like this, Great job.

[@katakisLives]

Bladerunner is the gold standard for a classic movie released with multiple cuts.

[@davect01]

I have the Blu Rays, the 4K and the Harmony Despecialized Editions. (And a few VHS versions that I have no VHS Player to watch on) By far, my favorite is the Harmony Despecialized

[@MrLuciousp]

The way to have done this, IF George HAD to include Hayden, would've been to have all the Jedi Force ghosts appear first in the elder forms then dissolve to their younger selves, before fading permanently away.

[@THE_INFECTED]

Some people say replacing Sebastian to Hayden was bad and I kind of agree but at the same time Hayden is when Anakin was actually last alive

[@terryrocks2j]

It works both ways. Some people side with Lucas's theory while if they kept SS as Anakin, I wouldn't have mind because it proves Luke was right when Luke knew there was good in him. Which means Anakin didn't truly die or not fully. So him as a force ghost as an old man did make sense as well because it was old man Anakin that redeemed himself and not young Anakin. Some people will say it was young Anakin's ghost came back into him which is.. just another excuse for Young Anakin to exist. It's funny how so much people will make excuses for Young Anakin but Luke's explanation in the film is already enough for why Old man Anakin to exist. For the longest time I hated this change but when I just saw the 40th anniversary again, I was happy simply because I hated what Disney did to SW's. I saw Luke as the hero everybody loved again on the big screen. I already knew it was going to be young Anakin, but it brought a smile to me simply because it wasn't Disney SW's.

[@geodude0744]

This explanation completely ignores the heartfelt moment Luke and Anakin shared right before he died! Vader was gone the moment he chose to save Luke. Even his suit being damaged and helmet later removed is a visual metaphor for Anakin's return, making the head replacement honestly disrespectful. "Just for once, let me look on you with my own eyes."

[@THE_INFECTED]

@@geodude0744 yea I know but I meant the Anakin before he did all the bad things. It's like he got a second chance

[@Adam_Boots]

Luke would probably be looking at the ghosts going 'There's Ben and Yoda. Who the hell is that on the left?

[@grifscustomlightsabers3925]

4k77 is my go to for star wars. I bounce between harmy's and blu ray for esb and rotj. All are great in their own way. It's amazing to have all these options.

[@Concreteowl]

For me Adywan has the best Empire. His changes make sense.

[@you-5-iver804]

​@@Concreteowlhis ANH was good other than the stupid extended tie fighter dogfight

[@halfhawk718]

@@you-5-iver804 That extended scene is now no longer there

[@Daehawk]

I have the original saga unretouched on VHS Glad I bought that back then.

[@bannie6151]

I hope they can redo Vader killing the emperor by removing his “Nooooooo” but keep his quieter “No” just before picking up Palpatine

[@drnobody418]

The changes that aren't so bad are good. The changes that are bad are Reeeaaally bad. But the original cut will always be the superior version of the OG trilogy.

[@KenshoBeats]

Haven’t watched another version since Team Negative’s 35mm came out. That’s how it should be, real cinema feel.

[@Itsjustanopinionchill]

3:35 to get to the content.... way too long baked in ads.

[@white-dragon4424]

Money was spent to change the Speeder Bike's momentum just so it matches something in ROTS that nobody even noticed or cares about; a blink and you'll miss it happening? Now I'm convinced, Lucas is mad!

[@ME1234]

There was a limited edition DVD release in 2006 which came with both the special edition and the original version on different discs.

[@HOTD108_]

That 2006 DVD is only 480p. Do you think that's good enough?

[@samiamtheman7379]

From footage of George talking about the changes, the reasons for CG changes to aliens were to make them seem more alive. He said he was never really happy with how they looked in the original movies, often the puppets barely moved, which is also why he did CG Dewbacks. He also always wanted the Ewoks to blink since they were first making RotJ, but the effects crew couldn't make it work out. His justification for CG aliens was that, yeah, they aren't real, but neither were the aliens in the original version.

[@HabitualJoker]

More proof to show that George actually had no idea what he was doing in the 90s. He was just doing things because he could without even thinking about it. He was an A+ dumbass with his changes. At least the original effects would all fit together and be representative of the time when the film originally came out. Now, it’s a hodgepodge of a film with terrible CGI that pulls you out of the film.

[@skeptic10]

The worst change was removing the werewolf in the Mos Eisley. He was always my second favourite character after the blue elephant synth player.

[@blip1]

3D Endor Space battle would have been nuts!

[@weon_penca]

The song of the Jabba party in 4k83 is based on the song "Suki Suki Suki" by Sadistic Mika Band, check it out.

[@gabmoreno280]

Funny thing I own the 2006 dvd special editions and I don't remember Darth Vader saying NOOOOO I just remember him grabbing the Emperor

[@robgreive3657]

Correct. That change wasn't made until the 2011 blu-ray release..

[@gabmoreno280]

@@robgreive3657 ahh I see thanks for telling me cus that’s a weird change

[@robgreive3657]

@@gabmoreno280 Yeah Lucas must have thought it echoed Vader's "Noooo!" from Revenge of the Sith. I like it, seems a lot of people didn't. 🤷‍♂️

[@gabmoreno280]

@@robgreive3657 I don’t hate the nooo reference but it is a interesting change in which I feel like the nooo makes it a tad off

[@Nindroidgamer110]

The only change I prefer over the original more than anything else is Hayden Christensen's force ghost. It brings a nice conclusive and tight knit feel to the film.

[@goldleader6074]

Why is he the only force ghost who appears younger than his death? Makes no sense.

[@Nindroidgamer110]

@@goldleader6074 because he died inside many years ago. Remember, force ghosts appear as when they were at their purist, proudest state. ObiWan died proud since he was protecting Luke, Anakin died inside on Mustafar.

[@goldleader6074]

@@Nindroidgamer110 Anakin was his purest and proudest when he did all the horrible things in ROTS because that's the way his ghost appears?

[@Nindroidgamer110]

@@goldleader6074 okay, bad choice of wording. If you really wanna go full on accurate force ghost, he should be a limbless burned crisp. All I'm saying is I prefer Hayden's ghost. I think what I should've said it moreso reflects how he was at the beginning of ROTS

[@goldleader6074]

@@Nindroidgamer110 You mean after he slaughtered those innocent women and children sand people in AOTC?

[@windwind3170]

8:15 Yes. Yes, I do remember Commander Neyo.

[@MyrKnof]

4K83: So i got this idea right.. Imagine this. "Gray, zero contrast, crushed blacks levels"

[@Stormcastlecomics]

Part of the contract with George is no old stuff unless he decides if he wants it. So we need him to be ok with the unaltered versions coming out.

[@G18999]

Notice how there's no 4K80. That's because Empire Strikes Back is a masterpiece and even the minor changes Lucas made are good.

[@Alex_FRD]

HelloGreedo is saying literally more often than stormtroopers miss.

[@DeclanRyanRising]

Electronic controlled acoustical arc organ. Comes with a free coffin. You should digitally record all those tones for future production. Please keep the long rubber glves on and rubber matt under yourself. Pretty cool and unique.

[@DillonAuto]

I hate to admit that ending of Return of the Jedi and removal of Yub Nub is the correct move. Almost nothing else is. I hate to admit it because the song was so fun when I was 10 in 1983.

[@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325]

For Darth Vader, only being 44 when he died.... The original Anakin, didn't age well. And looks older than Obi Wan.

[@da-vidcargill4975]

it was actually 45/46

[@lookingforwookiecopilot]

No one ever said how old he was in the OT. So if implied ages don't make sense, you can blame the prequels for that.

[@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325]

@@lookingforwookiecopilot It 45* ... Either way, he looks to old.

[@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325]

@@lookingforwookiecopilot Yep.

[@lookingforwookiecopilot]

@@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325 Not in '83 he didn't.

[@RetroActiveGM]

It's weird how the Disney+ versions look most like the 35mm prints in terms of the colour and tone. It's almost as if they're sitting on the unaltered prints and just won't release them 🤔

[@thecommercialarchive]

The colors of the Disney+ version and the Despecialized Edition are much better than the 2011 Blu-ray.

[@patricgmuer2988]

The worse change they made was how darth sidious survives at the end and shows up in episode 9

[@Cdr2002]

I have a strong feeling that Lucas snuck a requirement to preserve the special editions into the contract and Disney has been following that, counting down the days until they can get away with not

[@_.KLYDE._]

I highly doubt they care lol. They've made so much money off of Star Wars since they bought the rights.

[@Cdr2002]

They can always make more money by releasing the theatrical cuts 🤷‍♂️

[@samiamtheman7379]

We all know Disney would rather remake the movies entirely rather than painstakingly edit, restore, and update every frame of what's left of the original cuts to make them look good in 4k.

[@Cdr2002]

@@samiamtheman7379 I don’t see them remaking the OT either. Star Wars is one of those few franchises that never truly resets and instead just keeps building on itself, whether that has been through ESB and ROTJ, the prequels, the Legends stuff, or the sequels and other current era media. If your point is more so about how hard cleaning up the originals would be to do, I don’t know, the fan edits exist so I don’t think it could be too hard. Again, I feel a legal prevention is keeping the originals from being restored in their true forms rather than a logistical one

[@miller-joel]

Can't wait for the 4K remaster of the SW Holiday Special!

[@clamojoat1938]

reason for no official release of the harmies or the TN1 version is that its associated with piracy and the MPA witch Disney IS associated with hates piracy.

[@marzipanmonkey]

That "Nooooooo" added to the ROTJ Blu-ray is the single reason why I can't watch that version and thank god I kept my DVD collection. One of the most memorable and emotive moments in the entire OT and Vadar doesn't utter a single word. It's just perfect imagery and timing in how he looks between his son and his master and the audience just GETS it. How Lucas thought it enhanced that moment in any way is genuinely baffling to me. 🤣Unless he stubbornly forced it in because it got so much flak from the fans after ROTS and he wanted to make a point.

[@alkalinedivide]

I liked the idea of Hayden being a force ghost so that he can come and interact like the books

[@alvarogiraldezcea8561]

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[@demonocolips]

its funny i remember all these scenes from vhs back in the day only had "a new hope" original and then the special editions. and the blue rays i have i havent actually watched since i got them. may have to get around to that.

[@IMVADER2]

The teeny scene additions in Jabba's Palace (aside from the dance number), the ring explosion on the death star, and the extra celebration scenes added after said destruction, all fit the movie extremely well... at least in my opinion. As for the controversial force ghost change... I like it, but understand why a lot of people don't. IMO, we probably would get younger Anakin if the movies were filmed in sequential order, since George made the change in the first place, and there wouldn't be a debate to be had! But honestly in the end? I like both, and have 0 issues with viewing either one.

[@Deathpool_04]

I’ve seen people argue that they didn’t like the galaxy celebrating because they thought they were celebrating at the “same time”. I don’t think that’s true. It was never really said when those celebrations took place. The celebration on Endor could’ve already happened when those celebrations were happening. As for Anakin’s force ghost, it makes sense for it be Shaw for “out of universe reasons”. The younger ghost get way too much hate. With “in universe” reasons, it makes more sense for his ghost to be Hayden. However, if people are wanting him to be “old”, he should look like a mid 40s Hayden since that’s how old Anakin died. Why wouldn’t his force ghost heal the stuff that only happened to him because he turned like him aging faster than he should’ve?

[@tumbleweed4315]

Close Encounter Blu ray has literally 3 different versions in the same disc. Oh George 😞

[@geggy310]

4:35’s covers were also used on the books

[@davidreichert9392]

Of all the revisions to the three OT films, the changes ROTJ make me cringe the most. And I 100% agree with you, the "NOOOOO" is the absolute worst of them all.

[@danp2306]

There's only OT films - the rest are garbage. Most of the changes to the OT films are garbage, too. The Han (not) shooting Greedo (first) changes are just as bad as the Darth Vader yelling 'no.' It just goes on and on. Han should only shoot Greedo with one shot - done. It made the most sense. Lucas lost his mind and hates his fans, now. That's the only explanation.

[@DefinitelyAPotato]

How much of this video is advert? Jesus christ, it's literally over 1/4 of the video.

[@jesser1070]

6:28 Jesus, that scared me

[@HOTD108_]

Sponsorships are all fine and good, love that you're getting the support for the channel, but this one was way too long.

[@kikzurass]

We are 2 reissues far from a deep fake of Haydeen in the scene where Luke takes Vade's mask off

[@slowraceultra]

I have the original official unaltered trilogy on dvd, it came with the special edition trilogy.

[@noodles7011]

I started watching your channel about 10 years ago.. I still enjoy watching some of your content