Despite hating this, Ruze still wanted to join Holostars [Holostars EN]

[@theinkslicer]

Ay!! I made it into a Holostars clip 🎉

[@DLayDays]

Thank you for asking the question! You're the MVP bro

[@teotran-cv9rt]

My GOAT

[@RelativelyBest]

Other Cover vtubers: "I auditioned three times and I was really nervous but then I got in and I couldn't believe it!" This dude: "So this Yagoo guy points at me and goes: Hey you! Wanna work for me? And I was like: Shit, man, I dunno. Let me think about it."

[@unknownentity8024]

I think mumei is the other one who got an offer like that

[@AdGarden7438]

Whole "gamers gen" goes like that.

[@MarkTazo99]

Idk, that seems reasonable to me, is it not how it usually goes in job hunting?

[@Wenzan3pm]

​@@AdGarden7438 i always thought that gamers was scouted by fubuki

[@sakana-fish-]

Meanwhile, Jurard rejected being in Nijisanji and preferred Holostars

[@senny-]

There's always this warmth in his voice every time he talks that just keeps drawing me in. He just feels so sincere.

[@rabbitsparent]

Yeah, i feel his hesitation. Being an indie vs in a corpo must have feel different. Sometimes, being in a corpo could bring more experience but at the same time kind of limiting their ideas due to what the contract says. I'm glad he's happy and enjoying his position right now and I do hope stars en can stays longer ❤

[@Zeroknight34]

I also want to point out at least he chose a good corp with a CEO who is beloved by the Vtuber community. Yagoo is best girl.

[@perotekku]

Definitely the reason 📗 and 🧤 left, creative freedom and earnings cuts. Good for Ruze for being open about it and conscious of the choice to go Corpo.

[@rabbitsparent]

@perotekku exactly but i kinda feel that cover reflects on it and lately been loosen a bit. Armis boys are balancing their corpo and indie acc, vg also active in their indie acc. Totally different from how hq in their eraly debut 🫂 i guess cover was trying to discover a right method and rules with en stars side.

[@perotekku]

@rabbitsparent Agreed. I think Ruze's Holomarches shows how things have changed. He's open that management isn't a fan of the time commitment of him, but they still let him do it. I feel like for Tempus HQ, they were much more strict on time management and what they were allowed to do

[@rabbitsparent]

@@perotekku yeah, i like the fact cover made an adjustments on how they can managed the boys better but it's really a shame cause for that to happen, we already lost 🧤📗

[@FeiFei_]

It's the rare moment like this that make me drawn to Ruze. He also has a way with words and often use his own terms to describe something like Coverment = Cover, long blink = sleep, soup = superchat, chip = membership, and now guardsman who watch scrying orb = security (?), it's so unique and creative i love it.

[@wilhou]

Scrying orb = cctv camera 😆. I love trying to figure his fantasy/dnd synonyms.

[@theoverlordbear]

That stuff warms my lore-loving and roleplaying heart that VTubers further built. And I don't even watch Ruze much! Heck, my top favorite VTuber is Axel Syrios, whose roleplaying skills are freaking spotty! ☺️😆

[@MunnaAmor]

He acted like it was something boring, but I think it's really interesting. Most of the "how I got here" stories we know are from auditioned members, so it's nice to hear more about a scouted member's experience. It's gotta feel crazy to get that kind of job offer, seemingly out of the blue. At any rate, I'm glad Ruze found a place here, and is comfortable. Not everyone can manage the indie to corpo transition, but he seems to be doing well, despite previous reservations.

[@theoverlordbear]

I'm surprised that scouted talents still are a thing in holo (I think I even read someone claiming that Mumei was also scouted?), but I suppose it's more understandable if it's done for the Stars because of their lower visibility in the industry. And as much as Ruze has doubts about the value of being an agency VTuber, I think that he exhibits a corporate professionalism that is sorely underrated, something that I think is especially embodied by HoloMarches, which exceeds the scale of the previous tabletop RPG campaigns that involved Stars EN members. I don't think Ruze would be able to manage that, especially not with the lesser popularity that it has, if he didn't have the guts to both be himself even if it means being a niche name and be considerate of the people who truly matter to him rather than use obsessive audiences to get ahead.

[@ArseneWaltz]

Is he really "scouted" though? Is that even possible with the current Cover right now? I think it's just his choice of word for an audition that he did just for fun and not actually considering to join Holo.

[@HudaefCares]

​@@ArseneWaltzThat's Calli's story. She auditioned with a friend for Hololive for funsies as she was a bit of an idol culture anti at the time, in the end she got in but her friend didn't. (And I think her friend is still trying, I remember a clip of Calli kinda fretting if she's going something that's affecting her friend's chances at getting into Hololive) She was always clear in calling it an audition. Meanwhile Ruze clearly said "Coverman asked him if he wanted to do a job with them", that's... Kinda what scouting is, right?

[@MyralinaBradford]

Man, I get why he had the hesitation. Being a corpotuber must feel so different than from being an indietuber. Not just that, but he's going for Cover, which added the whole idol expectation to him. Needless to say, I'm glad he said yes, and I'm glad he found a home here.

[@electricwindgodfist777]

Ruze is probably the most open-minded and mature holostar out there lol. Respect to him.

[@ludimiller3717]

That is why scouted him I think, they always has to counter balance the gens personalities. Like if you have a Jurard you need a Ruze, if will have a Vesper you need a Altare, if you have a Bettel you need a Shinri. I don't know why but in every gen holostar EN they ended becoming are my favorites.

[@mythicdreamx]

​@@ludimiller3717yeah, I noticed as well. The responsible level headed person of each group. There's always one.

[@theoverlordbear]

@@electricwindgodfist777 I'd say one of the most rather than the most, considering how we have Stars like Rikka and Oga and the big events that they managed to organize, specifically VTuber Singing King and the Electroshock Deathmatch Tournament, both of which have happened twice already. But if we're talking EN only, then I'd be more inclined to agree that Ruze is the most open-minded and mature Star, especially because of HoloMarches. And I say "I'd be more inclined to agree" because of Jurard and Octavio being open hololisteners, especially with how they had full Armis watch-alongs of the Justice debut.

[@Koen_roe]

What about Vesper🤕🥺🥺🥺

[@theoverlordbear]

@@Koen_roe I love Gramps too, especially with stuff like how he outed Aniki's gushing about Nodoka, but I also have to admit that I don't see him as HOLOSTARS' top member in terms of what he's best known for. Chatting? I'm likelier to watch Roberu even with the language barrier. Being a holofanboy utilizing dudebro humor? Jurard and Octavio are way more open and healthy about that. Epically collaborating with his fellow Stars and/or even big talents outside Stars? Rikka, Temma, Oga, and Ruze have even organized bigger collaborations. And I don't think I'd prefer watching those Stars I watch more if they didn't have more open-mindedness and maturity as well. I do think that Vesper Noir did exhibit those two traits, but not as well as the ones whom I like to watch more.

[@k1k080]

I just want to say thank you past Ruze for giving us our least favorite idol

[@susu_4246]

- points - that's my oshi, all the cantankerous bs can't hide the sweetheart uwu underneath, heh. Thank you for the clip and subtitles

[@SpookyTree255]

We actually had confirmation that there were a couple of people that actually rejected being headhunted in Holostars and that dropped down in the last interview on Hololive (heck, Ina was this close to step down as well)... I can't imagine how much awesome talent we lost due to it.

[@duhneez2068]

heanhunted?

[@harouki]

@@duhneez2068scouted. Basically while there are people like Fuwamoco who auditioned to be a Holomem, there are others that Cover extended an invitation to join and be one.

[@duhneez2068]

@@harouki ah i thought “heanhunted” was a new vtuber slang that came about while i wasn’t looking😭😭 wonder how that process goes, pretty neat. i don’t watch a lot of holo but am glad that ruze took the risk!!

[@dalgona4819]

@@duhneez2068 headhunting has been a thing in corpo in general not just vtubers, basically scouting talent, tho usually from other corpos ("headhunting the competitor's popular talent" something like that)

[@frobsonsdesenhos]

Which ones were this people?

[@SneachdaCole]

I'm glad he took that leap. I can only speak for myself on this, but he's changed my life, has helped me get through some really tough times. And not just him, but several of the other Holo boys and this community as a whole. I've never been part of a community like this, and sometimes I feel like I don't. I'm a very shy and nervous person, but I have noticed I've been breaking out of my shell and interacting (or at least attempting to) with others a bit more.

[@theoverlordbear]

So Ruze really was scouted, huh? I honestly don't watch him as much as, say, Aniki, but I'm freaking happy that we have him accepting being a holo, especially with how healthily honest and diligently professional he is. I could've watched VTubers "just being themselves," as we - but especially men like me - like to call most VTubers who look like they're down to enable our degenerate behavior while they actually struggle to understand the good that can be done with the help of wearing masks, but this man is one freaking wonderful reminder to me about the fun of VTubing with lore and roleplay and even without!

[@DLayDays]

Whoa, another soup this week for me? Are you sure bro?? Thank you so much!

[@theoverlordbear]

⁠@@DLayDays With how tough it is to support the Stars, I wanna give material appreciation as well to my fellow fans too, D-Lay! And I'm in a donating mood right now! :"D

[@zanard33]

The moment I knew Ruze was the most level-headed of the StarsEN boys is during one Minecraft stream, where the topic delved into something that needs a mature touch, and he yapped beautifully. He's definitely an asset.

[@azurerider812]

Was it about the small girls thing?

[@TythenK]

@@azurerider812 That was a World of Warcraft stream.

[@Duckology]

I’ll always appreciate how sincere and frank Ruze is, he’s such a great member of holostars and I honestly cant imagine the branch without him

[@boots1622fan]

Sometimes I just wanna cry because I'm so happy for him and so proud of him 😭

[@Wubbab00]

He was scouted!! That’s kind of a flex ngl

[@aulaulaulaul]

Yup. He talk about it before for a little, and he thinks the email was a scam haha.

[@WD_Batora]

No wonder he felt like that given how Cover, Hololive and Idol culture is talked about in social media. There's a lot of people that are interested in selling themselves as the much better option. Misinformation and drama going viral and widespread is useful for them. Only when you get close to the community and learn how things actually work you figure how things actually are.

[@theoverlordbear]

That's why I consider being a Holostarmin one of the current best integrity checks in terms of being a VTuber fan. If you dare to respect talents and fans as sorely underrated as HOLOSTARS and the Holostarmin as fellow human beings, then I'm way likelier to consider you trustworthy even if you also told me that you're a hololistener.

[@kristin7146]

Thank goodness he said yes. Also, I'm forever blown away that Ruze was recruited, but at the same time... I totally understand why he was. The man is talented and knows how to engage his audience.

[@erevinwinter]

It's an odd thing to say, but personally, Ruze filled that Vesper spot in Holostars for me. The nerdy guy that talks nonstop about nerd things. I just wish they met someday.

[@KyokujiFGC]

I think what he describes is the same way Calli came in to it. She was not big on idol culture at all, but Cover seems to have a bit of a different way of doing things on the EN side especially.

[@theoverlordbear]

Ironically, I've seen a lot more of the idol culture negatives from the audience around VTubing outside Japan than from within Japan. Not that there isn't within Japan, with a certain firing in holo being one example of that, but for one, I'm amazed that Botan was able to pull off not only one but two mixed-gender Street Fighter 6 tournaments in her name, the second one even having Oga's Electroshock Deathmatch Tournament as an exhibition segment. Meanwhile, when I look at English-speaking audiences of VTubers, I tend to see my fellow men acting like organized criminals who can't believe that nerds can't be more than the stereotypes that they themselves even proudly live as much as they lament. So I feel like if Calli didn't assert her very own self as much as she did while under Cover, Cover might've ended up helping her become one of the usual objectified talents, which I think there still are a lot of even in EN. So yeah, I think it's not just because of Cover actively being healthy but also because of talents like Calli actively being healthy.

[@frobsonsdesenhos]

​@@theoverlordbear what do you mean by the "usual objectified" talents?

[@Ashreihn]

They mean the ones that feel like bricks or blocks', in terms of forcing themselves to something they're not. I guess? ​@@frobsonsdesenhos

[@theoverlordbear]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@frobsonsdesenhos VTubers who are treated as licenses to engage in sexual degeneracy and hateful behavior. Not that those VTubers tend to actively encourage it, but they tend to have guards weak enough to be exploited by mobs of posers and wannabes, especially the male kind. Those VTubers tend to be female, also, as male VTubers are currently more underdogged, especially outside Japan. And I'd say that the mobs are usually of the opposite sex, but so far, I've found way more sanity in VTubing's non-dudebro audience than in my fellow dudebro watchers of VTubers.

[@kos2919]

lore wise he sounds like a bandit who got offered a job by the king but he wafled at first because who want to work with the govt?

[@JoshuaPAMployee]

I wish I had more time in life because I'd give it to the HoloStarBros EN because they are just Bros! Also for others with his same doubt as talents or fans, everyone is HoloFam. You are family just accept it and COME ON IN! 😄

[@jon-unicorn-doxxer]

Exactly

[@theoverlordbear]

I don't watch the girls as much as I watch the boys, meanwhile, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying whatever healthy fun from them that I manage to come across! Thanks very much for your support, and may you have more fun and worthwhile times with your favorites especially, my fellow holofanboy! ☺️🤩

[@Philweasel]

There’s just something very valuable about cantankerous sceptics and terminally honest people in Holo, because it keeps everyone from getting too lost in their own hype and losing perspective. I love Cover, but that’s partly because talents are able to voice their scepticism and dissatisfaction, and they’re willing to hire people who will call out the bullshit.

[@theoverlordbear]

And those holos further show that if there's any trouble in the community right now, it's usually coming from the audience, specifically posers and wannabes exploiting those weaker than they are. And the gossipmongers and rabble-rousers among those posers and wannabes especially show that there is such a thing as being too hard and skeptical. That's why people like Jurard and Lizzie are as important as people like Calli and Ruze. We're not meant to keep problems in mind just to keep them in mind. We keep them in mind so that we can more properly solve them.

[@SeijiWeiss]

I know it's mostly his TsunTsun part but he sounds genuinely happy and thankful to be part of Cover, HoloStars, and the whole Holo community.

[@blackfirehedgehog7725]

Do appreciate clips like this from Ruze, he's got some interesting stuff to say.

[@jshu-_-]

you know what, thinking about whether you deserve something to me is a pretty good indicator that you may deserve that thing! Considering yourself to be undeserving tells me about a level of self-awareness that usually points to a good egg

[@dustycoal183]

Little corrections: "NYAAAA" is probably a high-pitched "Yeeaaahhh..." "Coverman" is the "Covernment" (pun on Cover and government) "Keep them on red" is actually "Keep them on read"

[@DLayDays]

Thank you!

[@KeiMidori_]

Only ruze would use a word like cantankerous so casually in a sentence

[@jon-unicorn-doxxer]

What is that even mean...😅

[@CrowitzerTheHoloFan]

​@@jon-unicorn-doxxer behaving frank and boisterous to the point of obnoxious but cannot be denied

[@dalgona4819]

Coverment is such a funny word XD

[@waterking74]

I can’t believe we almost didn’t have Ruze not once but twice

[@nevalavina]

Ku melihat 2 perbedaan antara leader dan captain Armis,keduanya lolos dengan caranya dan entah bagaimana itu alami saat satu grup terkadang memiliki 2 pemimpin hehe~ Suka sih sama Holostar mau JP atau pun EN,mereka gak berharap instan tapi berjalan terus melawan semua masalah yang ada. Aku harap mereka terus berkembang dan banyak lagi yang suka konten mereka.

[@celiarose8791]

Kharisma nya Ruze ama Jurard beda tapi sama-sama leader aura😊 Jurard agak narsis, Ruze tsundere, bertolak belakang banget tp itu yg bikin Armis seru punya leader 2😂

[@nevalavina]

@celiarose8791 itu lah,jarang ada Grup yang leadernya numbuh 2.Mana bertolak belakang kan jadi makin sayang 🤣

[@shinyamada488]

A good lesson on "You miss all of the shots that you DON'T take". A year or two to find out the answer is a small sacrifice. 70 years and asking yourself "what if" will always haunt until you kick the bucket

[@joshriley2936]

I can't believe Ruze used to work at Freddy Fazbear's Pizza.

[@froyoalmond]

I FKING LOVE HIM. HE IS SO COOL. LEAST FAV OSHI LESGOOO

[@LukaGremory90]

Keep up the good work, for all the people really. :)

[@Recidivous]

Honestly, it's a healthy outlook to have. Better to take the shot and turned out you hated it, then skipping on the opportunity and forever pondering what could have been.

[@RegstarRogstar]

covernment, cover + government, bukan coverman. istilah kalo ngomongin manajemen supaya sesuai lore wkwk

[@DLayDays]

Thank you for correcting me! Kirain Coverman/Covermen soalnya kedengeran begitu wkwk makasih makasih

[@rvpairofdicethewanderer2383]

You know people like Ruze had great potential to be loved by many when they get scouted by groups like Cover. Most would even be suspicious or even nervous about sudden offers like that but glad the Members of Holostars and Hololive took the offers because all who did proved their worth pretty quickly.

[@rery-23426]

terimakasih subtitle indonya kak❤

[@david23627]

0:39 this is what i love about ruze, dude loves role play

[@Mordred14394]

he explained it very well

[@kundownxyz6536]

Thank you for the clip !

[@date5960]

Being idol-like feels like an option at this point. It hasn't been a thing for years now.

[@KeiMidori_]

I'd argue it's even more of a thing now compared to before, but i guess that depends on your definition of "idol-like". Stuff like singing covers and original songs, 3d performances, voice packs, are all stuff that are very idol-like and something that feels like almost a necessity in holo, but I'm glad the seiso expectations are gone

[@theoverlordbear]

⁠@@KeiMidori_ On the other hand, as far as I've seen popular VTubers right now, especially overseas, that rejection of purity expectations tends to get warped by us viewers into an obsession with the talents enabling degenerate behavior. The double standards imposed on Live and Stars, especially by male viewers, are a prime example of that.

[@dalgona4819]

Honestly I'm down for more idol-like stuff. I'm just not a fan of the idol purity culture shit going on around some idol fans.

[@Kamodomon]

AWWW he LOVES US!!!!

[@mumtrz]

3:13 keep them on *read* Read as in the past tense form of read Yeah English is weid man

[@DLayDays]

Thank you! Ikr? English. Pfftt

[@VegitoZ17]

LOVE HIM!!!!!

[@realQuestion]

Worth it

[@jrtime228]

"You bunch of F-ing nerds" XD I love it

[@HydrengeaEdelweiss]

"I'm not a big fan of the corporate!" "30 on 30!"

[@unownnnn]

Don't watch him much, but I'm glad he's here because we wouldn't have his cool design, one of the cutest mascots and Ruzaders making that incredible birthday lore book. I would feel the same if I said no too.

[@chainsaw7638]

Interesting!

[@tuturtley]

not the elon musk jumpscare 😭😭😭😭 unsubbed/j

[@RockhardConstructionPebble]

The other guys fumble so much that I don't blame anyone for doubting just anyone in the industry. I think I can say Cover is doing the best job in the industry from the fan's point of view.

[@RiaGracewood]

Honestly, his distaste for authority always was (and kinda still is) a red flag for me. Getting some Vesper vibes from him. That being said, I'm glad to see that he's mature enough to deal with it. It'd be a real shame if he threw this opportunity away. (Just to be clear, no hate towards either of them. I'm a fan of both, I was actually a fan of 'Vesper' before he was Vesper, I'm just being realistic. Neither of them are perfect human beings, nor should anyone expect them to be.)

[@SirJames079]

I don't know, I get where you're coming from but I think Vesper and Ruze are dIfferent kinds of folks. Vesper always seemed genuinely kind of incompatible with the corpo lifestyle, even if he was a great streamer. Ruze has some authority issues and skepticism, but doesn't seem to have much trouble putting those aside to get the work done and is genuinely enjoying his time at Cover.

[@RiaGracewood]

@SirJames079 yeah, that's kinda what I meant. The issues with authority are still there, so there's always that worry in the back of your head that there'll be tension, but he's definitely shown that he can deal with it better than ol' man Vesper.