Destiny 2: Beyond Light - Review

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Destiny 2 Beyond Light is an inflection point for the franchise, ushering in as much change as did Forsaken, Destiny 2's launch or The Taken King. Many of its changes may result in a better Destiny one day, but the immediate impact of these sweeping changes is a game that feels smaller and more grindy than ever before.
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[@SkillUp]

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[@Shade497]

Knock knock

[@jasonbeneke4710]

Ralph, Destiny's finished, OK? it's over. u really need to let this go & move forward w/ur life. we're all worried about u. 😟 . . . . . . it's all about Destiny's Child now. 😏

[@c.b.5104]

When the hell are you reviewing WARFRAME's actual state?

[@richardanthony7855]

More shillup streams please

[@southendbusker7534]

"felt they assumed i wanted to play them"..um, you researched then bought them (in the irl situation)

[@abulnese]

I wanted the ship metaphor...

[@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462]

I know right? Especially a ship with the Legacy like the HMS Dreadnought. Beats the usual comparison to the Titanic...

[@Comnlink]

Same, skill up was about to go into hms dreadnought. I was excited!

[@Herlock110]

Or a 10 min doc on coke vs pepsi

[@silverhost9782]

@@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 'the' HMS is kind of incorrect phrasing

[@samreddig8819]

He did in an earlier review. Also Destiny i think

[@mellar5864]

"Do you trust bungie?" *destiny history flashbacks* No, no i don't think i will.

[@fumochabalala6284]

Least we'll always have Halo

[@largestbigman5267]

@@morsorcus8152 or maybe he does like it

[@RasenRendanX]

@@morsorcus8152 damn my guy came out with the flamethrower lmao

[@captainrex4723]

@@morsorcus8152 chill dude, in my opinion BL isn’t bad it’s just disappointing! There’s a difference and people have different opinions. Don’t be a clown

[@jynirax]

@@morsorcus8152 Clearly he's a huge fan of the genre. Destiny mechanically gets so much right that it is downright criminal how much else it gets wrong.

[@vasilios_2469]

Bungie: Nobody is playing old activities Also Bungie: *doesn’t update the loot pool for 3 years*

[@fiba_dan6707]

I relate to this on a spiritual leval

[@Rooachie]

@@fiba_dan6707 Even worse. They took out 90% of the old loot pool

[@boshwa20]

I mean you find something to do on Titan

[@jonathansoko1085]

can you imagine if blizzard removed old warcraft zones becaue more people are in shadowlands? wtf is wrong with bungie?

[@WILLINGLYWILD]

The loot pools irrelevant if you’ve been playing the same maps and strikes for years

[@Darkside-tr3sx]

I feel sorry for all new light players. They're literally left with nothing.

[@adamchu2001]

Risk Runner lol, thats the new light reward is just that strike....

[@AwesomeViibes]

Well I came back to play, bought the dlcs except beyond light. There isn't interesting loot for me (because they are bad, ugly armor sets, and I know the old ones). My vault is all turned to trash. They removed places, campaign, and.. Now that I'm finally trying raids... Well. 2 left for me (the real thing is I wanted to try leviathan for nostalgia). I am having fun. But honestly there isn't much to do. I keep doing strikes. Some dungeons now and raids at some point. When I played 1 year ago I even played crucible a lot! For the loot. I wanted the Winged armor sets from crucible and vanguard. Bought Renegades now just to realiz I can't. I just do not want to dislike the game because I lov the music, the places, the gameplay.. Anything that is left. BUT HOLY SHIT THIS IS ALL ANNOYING! But still. Patience. I agree with skill up and even trust his judgement a lot. Peace. Great review. Had a creat time with our buddie.

[@Phyllip21]

@VitalyNimorov why refund the game don’t give money to bungie

[@Team_ghost9503]

There was legit a lot of content for new light players before the cutting of content, a story but now it’s bare bones.

[@Darkside-tr3sx]

team_ ghost9503 It should be renamed to Destiny: No Light.

[@IpurplX]

"I hate Destiny 2, it's my favorite game."

[@justaguybeingadude5866]

Words every player lives by

[@tumei1851]

This. I can't stand the community and it was the #1 reason why I quit destiny entirely.

[@Scattman101]

It WAS my favorite game. At some point every Destiny player realizes they are just perpetually playing copy n pasted content.

[@IpurplX]

I love Destiny as a franchise, the story and combat are really great IMO, I and WANT to see this game succeed, it just sucks that Bungie is well...Bungie

[@shawno8253]

its because destiny is a drug and every player is addicted to it

[@MrrrrMime]

Shadowkeep was meant to be D2's "trust us, it's getting better and we have a vision" moment -- A year later and it's the same again. After 2000 hours, sadly, I'm done.

[@Ed-ow8ng]

Shadowkeep: Excuse us we went independent Beyond: Excuse us Corona hurt our output Next Exp: Excuse us X

[@123TheCloop]

@@Ed-ow8ng excuse us, china wont give us any more money.

[@35shadowthehedgehog]

@@123TheCloop Excuse us, the eververse store isn't bringing in enough money.

[@kay_keik7842]

exactly, skill up is just straight up bullshitin us with some of these excuses he himself uses

[@35shadowthehedgehog]

@@kay_keik7842 It is just weird hearing him not go to task on them but I guess it makes sense since he was out of Destiny for a minute. Everyone who leaves Destiny for an extended amount of time comes back and usually don't see it as bad except for people who stayed all the way through. Anyone who has been here since Forsaken to now can say quite easily that things have been on downslope. The most critical will liken it more to jumping off a cliff face but it is subtler than that. Right now, we are just witnessing Bungie push more and more what they want despite community pleas. I am going to be quite worried come Lightfall at this rate. How much of the game will even be playable? How much can you even realistically use? Either way, doesn't bother me too much since I quit during Arrivals and Beyond Light was about what I expected.

[@AceOfROMs]

High Project Manager at Bungie: "Yooo what if we, hear me out, made DLC that removed content instead of adding it" The zoom meeting room: "GENIUS"

[@Benno788]

The DCV and Beyond Light are not the same thing

[@SixEighthOfficial]

Zavala: Oh hey you got the darkness, cool. Now go farm some strikes lmao

[@alvarogallegojimenez9140]

Seriously? We have been on this "the game will eventually be great" for years now.

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

Exactly. I love SkillUp's content, but that's an area where I have to disagree. This franchise is, what...7 years old total? Between two full games, and a handful of expansions and season content...and we're now saying "this is a great foundation for future content?" After already saying that several times during its lifespan? We should be standing off face to face with the literal Darkness by now. At this point, it'll be at least another year until we get that, if not more.

[@torrentarrow9097]

I was on the hype of destiny will be great until destiny 2 was released and I gave up

[@yuh7992]

Destiny 2 has been great since forsaken, it’s no longer it’ll eventually be great it what they can do to make it even better, and they definitely have some work to do

[@sarojhmaffle7104]

Yeah, you'd think after many years we would realize it's US that are just never satisfied no matter WHAT they do.

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

@@torrentarrow9097 I was in heavy doubt after Rise of Iron. Taken King was arguably really cool, but Rise of Iron I feel fell a tad short. So when I saw the promotion for D2, I saw a lot of growth and learning taking place, and I was willing to buy in to give it a second chance at a new start. Sadly, it didn't seem to stick, and I barely pushed myself through Warmind before vowing to not give it any more money. The last three expansions, for me anyway, were barely worth the time.

[@stuartlivermore6493]

I feel like Destiny has been banking on a mediocre present but a promising future for a really, really long time....

[@iggytheincubus]

I feel like you're right. "Destiny is good now" is a phrase that's been repeated how many times in this franchise's lifecycle?

[@kaidosleftnut5830]

The only time I feel destiny was a genuinely great game was when forsaken launched it's gone downhill since then.

[@leroyjenkins12345]

6 years and counting

[@90bubbel60]

yep, i just hope outriders can deliver so i can quit this shit

[@TheRPGentleman]

@@90bubbel60 Just quit then. Don't be some pathetic addict to an awful video game.

[@funkinc6992]

"Do you trust bu.." "Not at all anymore"

[@dlemons28]

Anyone else feel like void seems more like “darkness” than stasis? Stasis is literally cold/ice. What is void, purple?

[@jacob-2271]

I always viewed void as gravity, blackholes and the emptiness of outerspace. While Stasis is entropy, the inevitable death of the universe

[@xXS33Y0U1NTH3FUTURXx]

To me, the light is represented by different forms of energy. Stasis at feels like the physical manifestation of time.

[@mira12825]

@@xXS33Y0U1NTH3FUTURXx If you think of light as energy, then it makes sense for darkness to be ice since cold is the absence of energy.

[@J.D....]

stasis is not the actual darkness. Like solar is not the light. Its a manifesation of the darkness, and aspect of it.

[@Lucien135]

I can tell you didnt read the void lore from byf

[@Awoken0]

*50 minute video* SkillUp: "I don't have time for a metaphor."

[@guillermojperea6355]

Yeah, and 50 minutes is too long. I'd rather watch 2 or 3 YTers than a 50 minute long one from a single one.

[@MyZ001]

@@guillermojperea6355 its what he does...

[@conaldeugenepeterson2147]

@@guillermojperea6355 either your new here or don’t pay attention

[@SkinnyBlackout]

@@guillermojperea6355 Man, imagine having such a short attention span. I don't know how you survived through school.

[@jamvng]

@@guillermojperea6355 Skillup's reviews are entertaining to me no matter how long they are. I like the way he presents his opinions and the production values help a ton as well.

[@aarongarza4769]

Bungie: “How much do you trust us?” Me: Not at all.

[@dbehnia2351]

It’s why I could never bring myself to play destiny. Everything I’ve heard about this game since day 1 had been negative or people trying to give Bungie credit for doing the bare minimum.

[@shawno8253]

@@dbehnia2351 Thats 1 of the reasons why I quit

[@dbehnia2351]

@@shawno8253 our of curiosity what kept you going before you quit?

[@ghostprime6320]

@Sak Attack I mean a lot of them are also Halo fans so that tracks but it’s still also the fact the Bungie does the bare minimum then proceeds to ask for more money just so you can have that bare minimum.

[@dbehnia2351]

@@ghostprime6320 every time people talk about it (even in this vid) it’s as if they are in an abusIve relationship. I’m a huge halo fan, still play mcc; this Bungie shares nothing but name with the Bungie that made halo. The Bungie thaf went through the absolute hell that was halo 2 development would not say ‘making content is hard’.

[@hansyolo8277]

WoW does something similar to Sunsetting, but in a more natural way. When a new expansion comes out, the maximum character level is raised, so all the new best gear will have higher stats and a higher level requirement. Which gives the same effect as sunsetting in D2, but without telling the player that they can't play with their favorite toys anymore. I think something like that would have made this go over easier with the community.

[@spaceracer23]

Skillup just dropped a review that was longer than the story mode.

[@eval_is_evil]

Hahah,such an underrated comment

[@KirillT14]

"So I walk around with this gimped ass gear, pissed off that I'm too poor to upgrade it." -The story of this guardian

[@TheRPGentleman]

What makes you truly poor is your willingness to put up with Bungie's shit.

[@harveymalice]

“Imagine the future” has been the promise of Destiny both thematically and literally for 6.5 years. The only thing that has changed is the nature of what is out of place.

[@GbHaseo]

@Garrus Vakarian well they've been working on 2 or 3 new IPs for a bit now

[@dylanjohnson9803]

@@GbHaseo true

[@jackwatson9617]

I’ll always love this game, I know it has its problems and it’s flawed but it’s my gaming home

[@-caleb-7201]

@@GbHaseo out of all of bungie’s ip’s only one blew up let’s not forget that. Also the bungie we all loved is long gone, time to face reality folks.

[@tywhaleshark7148]

@@jackwatson9617 I have that same feeling too.

[@zukazealanee]

What kind of expansion takes away more from the game than it adds?? Why would I PAY Bungie to take content out of the game? WTF??

[@DsgSleazy]

Because: "bungie help make halo so bungie get free pass even though bungie is run by dumbasses who make Activision look like Einstien"

[@truecaliber1995]

The answer is simple: It's so they can resell you content you already bought, with slightly new presentation; i.e. aesthetics.

[@weirdo7319]

Because it actually isn't part of the DLC. It was a separate update.

[@Benno788]

@@truecaliber1995 except that content that comes back from content vault is free, the cosmodrome was free, the vault of glass was free, etc. Did you even read the post on their website about the DCV?

[@truecaliber1995]

@@Benno788 You're referring to recycled content, my friend. That's the epitamy of laziness no matter if said-content is free or not. Also, what about the content players already payed for? They should be able to access it whenever they want, yet Bungie insists it's somehow impossible to include the option of deleting individual expansions. It's beyond ridiculous. Furthermore, if that wasn't the problem, and it was simply a matter of making sure new content didn't conflict with the old, they should've thought about making Destiny 3. But, no. They opted for gutting their existing product and selling us an overpriced joke of an expansion. "Oh, but what about the season passes," I hear you say? Forget them. It's just more mindless grinding involving killing the same enemies ad infinitum. Gambit was left out to dry, the Crucible continues to be a stomping ground for stasis, the patrols and strikes remain nothing but slight variations of the same busy work, and the raids; the ones not taken by Bungie and stuffed into the content vault yet, anyway; are convoluted challenges you still need a KZbin guide for. I'll admit the most recent raid isn't as bad as its predecessors, but complex tasks are what make raids so rewarding. The difficulty was never the problem. It's the fact that 90% of the game consists of mindlessly shooting braindead cannon-fodder enemies while the raid puzzles make up the other 10%. Had Bungie simply created a gameplay loop that taught us to observe our surroundings, instead of throwing us to the wolves without any means of defense, I'd say every raid so far was great. Unfortunately, I can't for the reasons I just stated. In conclusion, free recycled content doesn't mean much when so much of Destiny 2 continues to be broken, poorly thought out, and/or greedy- *cough* TRANSMOG *cough*

[@hayazi96able]

"we trust you, now go farm us some strikes." That Star wars video with the vendor screen for bounties just made me laugh way more than necessary.

[@el_grizzlo]

😂😂😂

[@sinner2133]

Not gonna lie, I actually fell for your intro. GG.

[@MoogleBread]

Me dumbdumb, please explain the intro fake out

[@SlyBoogie]

I liked the vid just off that. Fastest like ever lol

[@mindaugaskazlavickas]

I wanted him to actually incorporate that into the review.

[@sinner2133]

@@MoogleBread i don’t know if you’re new to SkillUp, but he usually makes intros where he talks extensively about something entirely different that seemingly has no correlation to the topic of the video, but then proceeds to link the two in a sort of metaphor, and his fans kind of make fun (in a friendly way though) of his intros. He basically acknowledged this and made the joke. Or maybe I’m just reading into this 5 second joke way too much. Which, yeah, it’s very likely

[@sinner2133]

@@SlyBoogie I genuinely laughed out loud

[@WinnieBlue]

Destiny players: "I shoot the same enemies in the same environments every day to get a weapon that allows me to shoot the same enemies in the same environments slightly easier."

[@randalthevandal4170]

Literaly Me

[@JJJBunney001]

Literally every mmo

[@extremetito82]

Dumb, i run in mario kart 8 basically the same tracks since launch

[@kingkobra4910]

@doot doot so every Borderlands play through is somehow in a New area?

[@BEATmyguest31]

Remember pong? I do. You people have completely lost your minds and your priorities are inverted. The fact we can jump online and play a game that is inhabited by hundreds of thousands of other players at any given time - *meh* -.-

[@Nicoarielpkr]

Trusting Bungie in 2020 : Pretty fucking insane if you ask me

[@benwallace3058]

Formatting every YT comment like it's a meme: Pretty fucking cringe if you ask me

[@TheRPGentleman]

That's the Destiny player base for ya. They've been driven to the brink of insanity by Bungie over the past several years and yet they still keep coming back for more. Pathetic.

[@armorx9638]

@@benwallace3058 Welcome to the internet, do you need a moment to come to terms with this, a foot rub maybe. People making comments like these is like drinking water its normal thing. And you literally made the same format, hypocrite.

[@DsgSleazy]

@@benwallace3058 You've been on YT for 5 years but are still getting mad about this? I'm guessing those five years take up the majority of the time you've been alive.

[@aussiegaming8345]

"Destiny will always be there " yeeaahhh but the content you paid for wont

[@whodatninja439]

i would be so pissed off if i paid for original Destiny 2, and they removed it all. Fuck bungie.

[@kesamek8537]

You only rented the content. You didn't own it. Just like all your iTunes and Spotify music.

[@gregrothschilds8453]

@@kesamek8537 Not at all the same thing but nice attempt at comparing video game content to a streaming service.

[@johnlocke4715]

@Kesa Mak and you don’t think that’s wrong? That people paid $99 when it was on Blizzard launcher to be told, you don’t own this you were just renting it :/. Seems unfair and morally corrupt to me.

[@nier_gard9236]

@@whodatninja439 yeah..I've been playing since 2015. Paid for every expansion in D2 except for BL. 😐

[@persos1126]

I'll just quote Datto for how you feel about the Raid. "Why are enemies in Gambit more dangerous than the enemies in the Raid?"

[@rookielicence1212]

Hmmm, but people continue to die from adds within the raid? Even streamers, soooooooo not a 100% literally correct are you

[@davidrhoden7868]

@@rookielicence1212 For my own raid groups/teams, I rarely see anyone get close to dying unless it's the explodey shanks at the start. I'm not entirely sure which streamers you're referring to, but for a majority of players the enemies in Gambit are much more dangerous than those in the raid. You have to actually disengage from some fights in Gambit simply because they can destroy you faster than you can melt them.

[@rookielicence1212]

@@davidrhoden7868 I get you David 👍 I’m been very literal on purpose as I’ve done close to 78 clears I think now across 2 accounts I see many still die to captains and normal adds so I like to come back when I see comments like this is all.

[@FKDotFitzgerald]

@@rookielicence1212 You can literally stand there and the dregs will barely stand there. It’s like they are tuned to not be that aggressive.

[@rookielicence1212]

@@FKDotFitzgerald in the first encounter certainly so. But you can paint it anyway way you want, people still die to adds across the raid. It’s not completely easy and void of all difficulty

[@Forcer69]

Skill Up has finally covered it, only a matter of time for IHE to return

[@nathanielschwiebert8515]

Hey! I know you

[@DeepStone-6]

Spoilers! He's gonna hate it!

[@stealthhunter6998]

U bet I’m waiting for IHE to do it. He has the closet opinion to me (even thou I play the games tons), his taken king review was spot on. It’s almost the perfect Destiny we always wanted BUT there wasn’t enough of it.

[@TheCocomunges]

@@DeepStone-6 yeah, it’s why I don’t like his content. It’s like he’s bending over backwards looking for reasons to hate it. Reminds me of Cinema Sins

[@eileenhorsfield937]

IHE?

[@roccodegiacomo6924]

Thing is, I trusted Bungie a lot, and I've I never been more disappointed in Beyond light. What you call "demolition" should have been a free expansion.

[@Tek21502]

This review has more content than beyond chores!

[@Swifto_Sweeper]

*Beyond Bounties

[@martyr3378]

This is so sad the game hasn’t improved. I just want it to be good again. I haven’t played since forsaken and I was real king hoping this dlc would be good but 😢😢

[@qjames0077]

Bungie: so we built the game in a way that means it can't handle future expansions without deleting content you paid for Players: but... Bungie: BUT we might give it back to you in the future. Buy another season pass to find out!

[@SiborgGamer]

I mean its due to restrictions of current gen storage capacity on pc and consoles. If they didn't delete the old stuff they couldn't add new stuff. Unless people werw okay with a 400gb game

[@Dorrovian]

Important question: why would I even try game now if I cannot experience the story at all?

[@slackstarfish8133]

@@SiborgGamer it wouldn’t be 400 gb bruh. The problem is that they removed it all so immediately and barely added anything in return. I won’t get into how the dlc is a ripoff, which most people except Bungie fanboys will be able to accept, but they should’ve better balanced the equilibrium of content in and out.

[@bbtbbbbtbb3166]

Could give a shit about Titan or mercury.

[@natecruz7114]

@@SiborgGamer This is literally the only game in history to delete your past DLC or content. Stop defending this shit fool

[@LuckyStrikeTech]

I’ve noticed the content in the expansion had a lot less “ghost hacks the thing, you fend off the the enemies”. There is a lot more interactive quests and things to do. They even had a joke that jabbed at the amount of times they’ve done that during the campaign

[@lucaswilliams2292]

3:00 “Will the destinations we love visiting still be there in the next expansion?” -SkillUp, as he drives through the Tangled Shores

[@cushdaddy24]

Trusting Bungie with our money is like trusting a snake to take care of a mouse

[@ChivalrousSnake]

Skill Up: "My favorite strike" Shows "The Corrupted" Everyone: We don't believe you.

[@Shad0w_vt]

Right?!

[@outlaw7286]

I just realized corrupted isnt loved I love that strike just don’t wanna try it at higher difficulty

[@obi-wanpepproni3576]

@@outlaw7286 everybody used to like it but because of rng and removing strikes, we have to play it very frequently and it’s so goddamn long

[@Shad0w_vt]

I just don't like the boss encounter. The rest of the strike is fine.

[@trustypatches669]

The boss and the elevator section both suck ass. The boss has way too much hp for how fast and small she is.

[@Trocify225]

That jedi counsel comparison with strikes was hilarious

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

Run me some strikes, you must.

[@Trocify225]

@@RedShadowOfSaturn to become a jedi master, yes

[@GENKI_INU]

39:05 I thought you said the endgame is "good"? The gear grind with multiple sets of gear/playstyles IS part of the endgame, but this system doesn't work as you said. I found myself having the same problem of upgrade anxiety due to how rare the mats are, ontop of the fact that better gear rolls could drop at any time.

[@osbellgarcia7065]

idk why i have plenty of material, I have the bank full of prism and shards and 300 core

[@Sacredmelon114]

17:51 Four years of playing Destiny 2 and I never knew you could destroy the Spider Tank's cluster cannon😂😂

[@impotenceaura]

Destiny has always been "the potential is there - if only they could realise it". They've never got it right. It's always "just ok"

[@joshuablanchette878]

That's exactly it/the reason i haven't deleted Destiny 2 yet. I really don't like it/haven't liked it but like a bad ex girlfriend that i go back to every once in a while, i just find myself holding out that it's going to do something to warrant me playing full time again. Suckers like me are always going to buy the next expansion thinking it will FINALLY be different.

[@jaywbell2002]

Taken king was great and Forsaken was great the game has reached its peaks and Rise of Iron was great the game is always inbetween greatness and it only stays in that greatness for a short amount of time

[@equinoxruinouseffigy7856]

All bungie has ever done during destiny was promise, hype, and underdeliver. They thrive on the player base hoping for a dlc to rise to it’s potential but it’s already obvious that they never have and never will. Hell, the only reason TTK and forsaken were any good were because the game was so unbelievably trash that anything seen as mediocre in the industry would be seen as a godsend to the destiny community.

[@Blue-gi3zk]

Starting to question if Activision was worth losing

[@thomasmcmanus8307]

Nah, as a lapsed player, there's nothing here for me. I just can't get behind the idea that I could buy forsaken or shadow keep just to dip my toes in, only to have that content stripped from the game. It's fucking ridiculous

[@gimiked8685]

Yea it is shit. I've spent over 250 bucks on destiny if not way more at this point, between me and my wife's accounts its prolly double that. I've never had content stripped out of a game like this. I still enjoy destiny 2's gameplay and the story could have been good with the latest release. It had potential. But again bungie flubs it, and like skill up said, there is no cost to going dark side. It's just accepted and well if you can control it then ok I guess. Sure, maybe a few like drifter or the girl who was trapped eris morn or whatever might accept it. But they had real drama to play off of and they just didnt use it. It's a great idea that was a ball dropped.

[@nolives]

Not to mention the gear being artificially throttled.

[@matteovukoja1240]

With the sunset gear, the only worthwhile content those expansions have are the exotic quests (Div and Xeno specifically), the raids, which have underwhelming guns, but pretty good looking gear, so I'll play them until I can get their full sets, and campaigns.

[@gunnart1305]

@Harrison it’s really not a difficult concept or a bad idea, but some how people feel the need to lose their shit because they can’t take out ghaul or wake up the traveler any more. So many damn cry babies, it’s not like the content is gone forever either: it was stale, it’s being taken out to be reworked and added when it’s needed to not be stale, it’s not that hard. People all the sudden act like they really cared about shit that they hadn’t touched in years. Like I feel like that’s kinda on you if you didn’t grind the shit out when it was relevant. Like I think at one point he brought up not being able to grind out the whisper of the worm catalyst, like that’s not even a optimal dps weapon any more, why would you have not done this for the 2 YEARS it was relevant and available. Like we get it, you bought the game and didn’t play it and now you have buyers remorse because you can’t take out ghaul anymore, like literally no one who actually plays this game cares about that shit. I’m glad they’re dumping the casuals.

[@leonthomas2020]

@@gunnart1305 if your argument in favor for bungie removing content is "well no one's playing it anyway" then i think you just have a different way of thinking fundamentally than other poeple

[@incendiarypoprocks8700]

Amazing as always. I’m a hardcore destiny fan, but you hit the nail on the head with respect to the good AND the bad. Hope 2021 is a better year for you and the fam!

[@brucenatelee]

Me: Can't wait to fight new enemies! Darkness: More Fallen enemies! Me: ...

[@gorebago]

"....and now he's handing out bounties...." ---- D2 in a nutshell ---- Bounty Light

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

Oh but don't worry...Bungie reassures us that bounties won't be as focused on or important going forward... "How much do you trust us?" Yeah, nah. Zero on that front.

[@gorebago]

@@RedShadowOfSaturn 90% of the content is either the power grind or bounties

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

@@gorebago Oof, I know. And I mean...I'm one to talk about grind, I play Warframe, so I know all about grind, but...when I load up Destiny, it takes around 15 minutes to gather up bounties from every which place, I can play for literal hours and feel like I've barely made a dent. Some people like that. To me, it feels super exhausting.

[@BohemioGaming]

@@RedShadowOfSaturn Now that we are on that topic, what would you recommend more? Warframe or Destiny 2? O maybe just wait to see if Outriders is any good? :P Warframe feels like a pain unless you farm a lot of plat or just buy it with real money and Destiny feels like i need every expansion to be at a decent spot (and farm the freaking artifact).

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

@@BohemioGaming Unquestionably, Warframe. I will be fair to Destiny and say...two things Destiny has that Warframe doesn't is endgame in the form of raids, and a healthy PvP population. Warframe has PvP but it's not focused on much, so while it exists and I actually do like it, hard to find games if no one is playing the mode. And Warframe used to have raids but they were removed...to be returned someday, but no word yet on when. SoonTM. That said, I still recommend Warframe over Destiny. Mainly because...many Destiny players want things Warframe has had for years. A thriving trading economy to ease some of the grinds for anything from weapon components, parts to build Prime gear, resources, mods, almost anything you want, including premium currency to ease the need to pay real money. Customizable clan halls with research labs to build new gear. Pilotable multicrew spacecraft complete with ship combat. A singular narrative built over 8 years with some of the best quests in a looter game ever. A FREE battle pass system with no paid reward track. As well as a super fast movement system truly making players feel like glorified "space ninjas." It's incredibly feature rich and full of things players always delight in discovering. Yes, at times, some of the grinds and farms can be bit heavy, but if spaced out appropriately and addressed patiently, it's a really satisfying experience. I've played tons of Destiny and Warframe over the years, and Warframe just makes most of what Destiny offers, outside of maybe the raids, just pale in comparison.

[@ecfeclipse]

"Go farm me some strikes" should be a shirt in a merch store 😅

[@BigDrako4224]

I want to enjoy this game so badly but I feel extremely lost...

[@account4345]

>Destiny 1 face-planted at launch. >Taken King comes out and I give it a chance again. Love it, some of my most cherished gaming moments. >Destiny 2 comes out and I preorder as I now have faith that Bungie knows what they’re doing. Spend over hundred dollars on it. >Destiny 2 flops, absolute garbage. Their product is god awful. >Come back a few years later to learn that almost all the content I paid too much for - the content they should have fixed - is just removed. They’ve simply switched to a more profitable model and taken away everything people paid for. >fuck Bungie

[@kiergan4102]

While I enjoyed Beyond Light, it still kinda felt like another teaser expansion for something in the future.

[@atomic_wait]

Yeah, 'Destiny's true final form' always feels like it's a year or more away.

[@LastMinuteGuess]

I keep coming back each fall and I stop playing after a month. Something about it feels so unsatisfying compared to other live service titles I keep up with, and I love Bungie and how shooting feels in their games.

[@jormungandr4690]

Destiny 2 in a nutshell.

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

@@atomic_wait that's basically destiny in a nutshell. "One more year" is the common motto

[@Lirka_906]

What I hate with Destiny even though I keep returning, is that I always need to grind to a certain levelcap to enjoy the current content. It Is way worse now with the sunsetting that's introduced in the game. If I take a break for a year, I can basically use nothing that I have anymore. Compare that to Warframe where I can return after years and still use my first frame and favorite weapon. I never need to grind to some new level cap to enjoy the game.

[@soshady9572]

Jedi - "Hey guys, I'm thinking of trying out that shooting lightening from my hands thing. Thoughts?" Jedi Council - "Cool man, cool. Now go farm some "strikes." " 😂

[@Cybeldar]

I feel it's missing the group events. Escalation Protocol and Blind Well for public events,. Menagerie and Forges for match made. Those with loot to chase were good time spending fun.

[@viron3664]

The Fallen get the shaft again with another transitional expansion, they should be as angry with Bungie as they are with the Traveler. Can't wait for another few Hive expansions because the Hive sure is interesting being full of Chaotic Evil unthinking bug-men, which always make great characters and interesting villains. I'm sure the scheme of the Witch Queen is totally gonna shock and surprise me and in no way is just gonna be some dumb thing that is about blowing up the Traveler and killing everybody. Also how fucked is it that they expect people to pay more money to have content added into the game that they just shrunk, including content from before that you had to pay for? Pretty fucked. Maybe they should have just made a fucking sequel.

[@sinmcgriff2284]

When he started talking about the HMS Dreadnaught I was like "YEESSSS" but then he stopped and I was sad

[@lordcrimson913]

"If you don't trust Bungie, then there's not much here for you" Figured as much, and staying through the whole review confirmed that. I've been playing destiny since before the launch of D1, I stood through the shit show that was year one of D1 because I saw potential, that potential was eventually realized in TTK, but even before then I was enjoying the updates the game had towards TTK and watching the world evolve. I didn't playing D2 at launch, after the streamlining of subclasses and weapons with little to grind for, alongside taking all the exotics they said would come with us, I decided to sit D2 out. It wasn't until forsaken and shadowkeep that I decided to jump back in after a significant amount of changes in, what I thought would be, the right direction. Fast forward a few months in, I'm getting into the endgame grind, I've found a playstyle I genuinely enjoyed and was working towards the gear to supplement it. Eventually after endless hours/days/weeks and months of grinding I had enough upgrade mats and the armor to start to fully realize the potential of my build, and I enjoyed it all because there was a pay off. I was a Hunter and bow main, my class consisted of a shotgun, Hush and Leviathans breath alongside Oathkeeper and all the bow mods needs to max out the potential of weapons. I had gravitated towards hush because it was one of the most fun bows in the game, and in the right hands it was very lethal, not to mention, there just wasn't much variety in the bow category. It wasn't the most efficient setup, nor was it meta, but I loved it and had the most fun playing it, and I did fairly well with it, then came the weapon sunsetting announcement and it hit me like a truck. All those hours, reduced to nothing, in the blink of an eye everything I had grinded for was completely useless in all the game modes I enjoyed, nothing I had done mattered because all my gear was "an inconvenience" to Luke Smith and his "vision". I had already decided to call it quits after the first sunsetting announcement but the 2nd (armor) and 3rd (entire portions of the damn game) announcements solidified my choice. To put it bluntly, I simply do not trust a dev team that's going to just take away anything it wants to because it's doesn't matter to them despite the players not wanting that, I also don't see the point in playing the game, endlessly chasing a number that's going to keep running away from me and never really getting anywhere because I'm just going to be back where I started. I also still have a huge issue with the fact that subclasses are incredibly restricted and haven't been reverted back to the superior D1 system that actually gave people a choice, and that there's a HUGE backlog of weapons we've been asking them to update and bring into the loot pool, or that all of the "balancing" issues that they've been trying to fix via sunsetting have created new ones and that those new issues could have been avoided by simply addressing the real issues which was pinnacle weapons. All in all I'm sad to see this franchise fall like it has, disappointed in the lack of consideration for players and I in no way see any of this getting any better in the foreseeable future because if I'm honest, this all looks like Bungie just doesn't have the budget to make D3 and is sunsetting everything in D2 to make room for what would have been D3. Maybe breaking from activision wasn't the best for them after all.

[@Label07]

Read the whole thing, can tell you put a lot of time and effort into this game only to be cast aside by Bungie. Sunsetting is a massive slap to the face for the dedicated players.

[@FINETUNEDGAMING]

@@Label07 I didn't. Just a long winded way to say "I don't trust Bungie, I'm not buying it." The rest is noise.

[@FINETUNEDGAMING]

TL;DR- You don't trust Bungie, you won't buy the DLC. Okay, cool. You think someone at Bungie cares about all the rest of this crap you wrote?

[@lordcrimson913]

@@FINETUNEDGAMING If all you got from that was "I don't trust Bungie" then I don't see why it irked you so much to coerce a response.

[@Daniel-wz3yv]

It just sucks to put in so many hours grinding weapons and armor and then suddenly it can't be used in new content anymore, that really was the final nail the coffin for me cause i struggled for god knows how long to get some weapons like MT and i wanted to keep using it in high level pve, i never gave a shit about the game being easy or hard, as long as it felt fun to play that was enough for me but the fact that they ignored a large portion of players and went through with sunsetting shows that Bungie doesn't really care about the player base and they just want us to keep running in their little hamster wheel while grinding a number that goes up every season, and well i refuse to do it so i just stopped playing and now i'm playing tons of games that were in my backlog cause D2 was my main and pretty much only game for more than 2 years.

[@chocol8milkman750]

I hope everyone watches this video all the way to the end. Ralph's closing points is on the money. Skill Up continues to be the only Shill-up that I genuinely listen to and resonates with my own experiences.

[@AudiVicious]

What destiny needs is a real competitor. They have become very complacent in my opinion, no real strides forward. Imagine a world where a game such as anthem succeeded. In that scenario I can see bungie busting their ass to win us back over instead of being totally fine with giving us the minimum, only listening to our feedback when it’s convenient for them.

[@abdullahnaeem7275]

Yeah your right outriders could've been a great competitor but hasn't sustained itself that much. Which is a shame.

[@sauceinmyface9302]

And still not a single competitor has survived, because making a game like Destiny is insanity. Gorgeous art, music, iconic weapons, raid activities, a gameplay engine featuring a variety of subclasses and stats and physics, constant expansions and seasonal releases. Destiny 2 and Forsaken disappointed Activision with its profits. If you wanted to compete with Destiny, you'd need a pretty large company going full send into the project, devoting the entire company to the game's existence for almost a decade at least. Almost no one wants to take that risk, and those that do either don't have the resources or don't put enough resources in.

[@kurgo_]

Destiny will be complete and good when star citizen comes out.

[@spleeneater9481]

Destiny will never be complete and good then- OHHHHH

[@lynnmckenney1987]

F

[@adas3497]

AHAHAHAHA

[@mas0ny149]

Bhahahaha

[@stateofmind578]

Íf Star Citizen ever comes out, we will be playing Destiny 42.

[@bringithahn]

"imagine what can they do next year"? they are already developing it currently, still under covid, with "one hand tied behind their back" so why would we expect anything different? it'll be another $25 expansion with a $40 price tag

[@bringithahn]

there's just no reason to play the season passes that they'll delete the content from later, just wait 2.5 years when Destiny 2.5 is actually complete and play all of it for $40 in 2023

[@spacejunk2186]

This whole "the expansion after next expansion will fix it" mentality is hillarious.

[@ClickKlack43]

Next year, they’ll sell us back the guns they sUnSeT this year. That’s the pattern.

[@danielmurrell8295]

Hands down the best review I’ve ever watched. I agreed with so much of what you said and the way you put things into words made me see things I thought were issues in a new light and visa versa. Nice job. Great video! 👊🏻

[@Target135]

Bro, you make such good videos. Like this is better than watching a movie for me

[@exmachina2600]

“Destiny feels like a game that is only speaking to and servicing its most hardcore players” Lol, the hardcore players would like to have a word with you.

[@mbazoka]

Yeah, the reason the game feels bad to play after a while is because it actually doesn't appeal to either side of the fence here - the casuals are thrown into the game to figure it out and survive the abysmal power level grind every. damn. season, while the hardcore community gets...strikes where you have to play like a 3rd-person cover shooter and PvP that wants the sweatiest of the sweatiest without actually providing the sweats with the casual food, so now sweats have to fight super sweats and even the sweats can't handle it. Destiny 2 designs are the epitome of MISSED OPPORTUNITY and that is why the game always tastes like ash after chewing on it a bit.

[@Ram-lo1ji]

Facts I don’t think anyone benefits here. Nothing for us to grind or strive towards and not enough content to keep us invested.

[@JoeySav]

And what excatly would you complain about, i have played both games since day 1 and have a shameful amount of hours into the game, but i can promise you that now destiny is better than it has ever been when it comes to the more dedicated player. Or shall we go back to the launch up until the first two expansions that literally gave you a weapon with no random rolls and the weapons took hours sometimes less to obtain and it rained exotics. Is the game perfect , not by any means, but they are trying to balance it out between keeping the casual players around while appeasing the more dedicated players , it's not as easy as a task as people make it out to be. Bungies team is fairly large i know they were at one time and probably still are the biggest independent studio and at one point all they worked on was destiny ,period. If they only catered to hardcore players the game would barely make money.

[@murbly]

@@mbazoka the "casual food" just left bro. A while ago, I think. I don't think there's ever tonna be a matchmaking solution that will give "non sweaty pvp" as some would put it as only the sweatiest of players are left.

[@murbly]

@Arthur Pilgram we have been waiting for Destiny to get better since launch bro. Closer it got was TTK. Then Forsaken. So going by history, the next decent expansion may arrive in 2 years or so.

[@undifinder6643]

People I can only have high respect in Bungie are the modeling, vfx artists, voice actors and musicians.

[@ReservedSpot]

You're telling me the gunplay isn't one of the the best in the shooter market?

[@filmfaithandlevity]

@@ReservedSpot it's really not. It's fine, but getting outdated fast.

[@teabags6292]

@@filmfaithandlevity I have managed to find the worse take in the comment section.

[@sneaklone_]

raid team

[@jessegarciaiv5380]

@jake stearman its a looter shooter with a half ass story

[@Alex-re3qm]

Skillup, you have no idea how genuinely happy I was to see another boat metaphor by you. dead serious

[@sandmanlive3790]

You got me when you started talking about how hard it is to level up gear. I'm a purely solo PVE player and have easily over a thousand hours just since Beyond light. I have two masterwork pieces and no ascending shards or any of the other main stuff to level up to masterwork. Really feels like I just wasted a whole lot of time.

[@jeremyrotenberg8426]

Sounds like leveling your gear wasn’t your goal tbh. If you had fun purely solo, good on you, but there are so many ways for solo players to find groups that you can’t convince me you really tried if that’s your only excuse for a thousand hours. I have about twice your playtime, I’m a solo, pvp focused player, and I have enough shards and prisms that nearly every exotic and legendary I have worth equipping is masterworked. I have no group, and only spent ~20% of my total time in pve according to twod.

[@sandmanlive3790]

@@jeremyrotenberg8426 First, my very first statement was that I'm a solo only PVE player. So why the comment about not trying to look for groups? Anyway, I don't know if you realize it but you actually just proved my point. According to you; you mainly (80% of the time) play PVP. In Crucible you get shards and other items needed to level up openly across all game types. In PVE you only get these things from the highest level stuff, which you also need a group for. Also 20% of 2000 hours is only 200 hours, so in PVE you're not even close to my playtime. Mix that with the fact that I'm willing to bet most of your 200 hours in PVE was not played solo... I think, when it comes to this game, we are living in two different worlds. Also I wrote that comment 10 months ago... so....

[@No-Me3]

Running out of content to reuse? Delete stuff currently in the game! Now you'll have plenty to reuse in the future and pass it off as "new"!

[@Label07]

@@morsorcus8152 Scrum board, because only idiots become Scrum masters and utilize it in a workplace.

[@unkwnfella4849]

"oh, you're fresh outta grave aren't ya" ... Flexing trials armor: "yup"

[@Two-for-One_half-off]

(Looks into camera and smirks like Jim from “The Office”)

[@jmbrady1]

at this point from what I can tell, it looks like embers that are burning out

[@LilithNerevarine]

Happy Happy new Year to you!! Wish you all the best!

[@andreus719]

"When I buy something, I should be able to access it forever" SkillUp's been talking to Jim Sterling, and I like it.

[@choppachino6968]

People who bought Evolve: “first time?”

[@ihandsomejaxi5095]

@@choppachino6968 I remember Evolve lmao. It was the best 2 weeks for me at launch. Then I got tired unfortunately.

[@kurgo_]

Can you imagine how apeshit Jim would go if he cared or even knew about destiny? Holy shit. TB is probably rolling in his grave too.

[@alexeyt8032]

"Do you trust Bungie?" Fuck no, lmao

[@jjwilliams410]

Not believing anything they say until they I actually see em do it.

[@dbiii231]

@@morsorcus8152 he never said it was bad. that's you projecting that.

[@Sir_Doom]

i'm in

[@petecoleman3443]

@@morsorcus8152 I agree with most of what you said, but I don't see how Activision was responsible for Forsaken. It was still Bungie's expansion.

[@teabags6292]

@@morsorcus8152 I truly feel sorry for you if you believe that. Forsaken was FUNDED by Activision, and developed by Bungie. High Moon created the tangled shore, and Vicarious worked on the annual pass and QOL. Bungie made EVERYTHING else. Also, please learn how to spell.

[@degandagan]

I just gotta put this out, I spent the whole video expecting you to touch on the Deep Stone Crypt OST, Deep Stone Lullaby, and although you didn't mention it on the raid section, I was reeeeeally satisfied with the cheeky insertion of the track during the last segment. Thanks man, I hold an unhealthy amount of love towards that track lmao

[@MrCipasa]

Every time you say "The Darkness" i get a Chappelle show flashbacks

[@kevinkusman9137]

You're not the only one lol

[@streven1331]

Best skit ever.

[@spaceracer23]

RIP Charlie Murphy

[@Arassar]

"Do you trust Bungie..." Imma stop you right there.

[@sedftnio]

You really hate this game and studio, why?

[@turtletitan5483]

@@sedftnio it’s not the worst company and they do a lot of good but they also have a long list of mistakes.

[@willdill7253]

Bungie’s faults mainly stem from mismanagement and department disconnect rather than shear greed like other companies...

[@Alckee6904]

@@turtletitan5483 Tell me which mistakes, lets see what are Bungie's and what are Activision's.

[@ninochaosdrache3189]

@@Alckee6904 Like that they canned content that people paid real money for

[@violentvegan5544]

Hot girl- “Ugh you’re soo boring, go farm me some strikes” Lmfao

[@KabbalahSherry]

I was DYINGGG 😭😭😭💀 LMAOOO

[@airecsy]

that part is so true. the best abusive gaming relationship im in.

[@klauskleber2287]

LMAO...and oh so true!!!😂😂😂

[@Walamonga1313]

Funnily enough my ex was addicted to destiny. Actually addicted, enough that it caused problems. I still dunno how someone can get that way, especially with something that milks so much time and money

[@Shmitty-nx5gz]

I got a friend into destiny with Beyond Light and it pains me that I cant take him through the Red War, Curse of Osiris, or Warmind stories because the campaigns are some of my favorite parts and he just won't be able to have that experience like i have

[@clampy7987]

yeah those were amazing. although the content after the stories were a bit meh, just being able to play them again would be amazing.

[@MrMrchatcity]

I found your channel when you released a look back at the original Destiny and always love listening to your take on anything Destiny. Also your other stuff is pretty good too. Lol

[@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel]

Developer: How much repetitive content should I include in this expansion pack? Bungie: yes

[@kittens-kun7671]

Cry more.

[@BatteredWalrus]

@@kittens-kun7671 yes we will complain when we payed our hard earned cash (£50 in this case) for something that feels half baked and lacking in fun activities since they were taken out

[@thedoctor4230]

I feel this is an accurate representation of the communication between departments at Bungle...

[@kittens-kun7671]

@@BatteredWalrus K

[@scizor285]

Trying to unlock anything statis is so repetitive.

[@FRSM18]

someone said "power level is not to be more powerful, is to be less weak"

[@TheStrategist314]

Your reviews are SO fucking good. I mean I'm only 5 minutes in and I know what I want to know...and yet...I'm still getting the popcorn ready.

[@petesan3]

Your reviews are the best. Also, nice form on the bag at 28:08 😂🤣😂🤣

[@faceless_man566]

beyond light story summary: hey some planets vanished but never mind that, there's a fallen chick that has darkness powers and she clearly can't handle them, so lefts fight her darkness with our own darkness cause we can handle it

[@MichaelJP]

Wow that sounds deep and complex, let me just fall to sleep and forget Bungie are lazy fucks until the next expansion reminds me again.

[@cjallenroxs6239]

@@MichaelJP “lazy”

[@someguy7448]

The darkness told us to pay the price. We did. And we are getting power in return.

[@JohnDBlue]

Destiny's story now is just so completely fucked because it's told too much through the seasons. Ralph wasn't there for the last few seasons, and the game doesn't even make the slightest damn effort to catch you up with what you missed. I only really played during one season before the current one in like... a year and a half?... so I'm pretty much in the same boat. I've no fucking idea what the hell is going on, I came to BL and nobody said shit about what had happened. Not cool.

[@mannymelo949]

@@JohnDBlue god forbid you have to play the game to understand what’s happening

[@wertyda1]

The worst part is we are gonna have to pay for every expansion still, so if you paid for content that is vaulted, wtf?

[@wertyda1]

@@svgPhoenix oh of course, buying digital games you’re really only buying the permission to play the game until they take that permission from you. Remember when this generation of consoles was coming out? And they wanted to do all that bs with drm with the disks?

[@zoicaras2992]

Yeah you're buying a license to access it, in fact it makes you confirm that you accept those terms/conditions every time you log in for the first time after every season is launched. That's also why I presume there hasn't been anything legal brought up.

[@Bcroskey1]

It's really interesting watching this take on the verge of Lightfall. I would love to see a retake on this video from Skill Up, since, at the time of the review, the framework of Destiny 2 was rebuilt, and now we are seeing the results of what they did in Beyond Light. Unironically, while sunsetting was taken away...it was replaced with both Light 3.0 & Origin Traits on weapons.

[@arturolimonez7470]

Destiny 2 was game that introduce me to the raid concept. I remember trying the leviathan raid and loving every aspect of it: the challenges, the comunication, the difficulty, the rewards and the overall experience. Now that most of it's raids are gone, i don't know if i want to pay for "more" content anymore.

[@blitzhd8377]

Raids still exist, leviathan wasn't hard

[@Green_Ninja325]

"Now go farm me some strikes." I felt that

[@macl2840]

Not gonna lie, I was actually looking forward to the ship metaphor.

[@aaronwilliams6165]

Great review! You just keep getting better. Thank you & I love Destiny.

[@GameoftheYear-fx4mq]

Our vault in the tower was destroyed, but that doesn't mean they can't look through the rubble and find our old loot and give it back to us for a fee.

[@purplebatdragon]

Destiny 2: "yeah, we have to delete half the game, there's no other way." Warframe (a much bigger game): "we updated our compression technology to half the file size but keep all content!" Edit: I don't personally like Warframe, but I still recognize that it's superior to Destiny 2.

[@jayleno2192]

Honestly, Warframe would be better if they did abandon more of the old content. Stuff like hijack and kuva assault missions are complete garbage and serve absolutely no purpose. Literally the only reward you get from kuva assault is hearing Lotus say "long and hard."

[@kongchho]

@@jayleno2192 but that's the thing. You don't have to do these missions but you can if you want. It kinda sucks to have whole maps deleted especially if you put some real money in the game.

[@jayleno2192]

@@kongchho You are actually forced to do hijack in order to progress in Warframe. I think you only have to do it once, but that's still one too many times for that god awful game mode. Even gambit is more fun.

[@Amaan_OW]

@@RealBakedTahu This. I’ve got hundreds of hours and it’s just not worth staying.

[@DivinityOfBLaze]

The virgin Destiny and the Chad Warframe.

[@kidoren69]

The hot girl at the party part: uh your boring ... go find me some strikes had me rolling in the fucking floor literally

[@muradtashkandi5083]

I died 😂😂😂

[@sadpandah7597]

Ty for talking about Sunsetting and DCV, most reviews literally removed this part of the review to make like Destiny 2 is in better place now

[@eval_is_evil]

That's probably one of the clauses in their paid targeted advertisement campaign in the form of an article or editorial. Happens way too often on way too many gaming "news" outlets (news in quotes because gaming journalism is a misnomer).

[@midgetydeath]

I always saw Destiny as a war between the Light and Dark and their respective champion species. Humanity was chosen by the Light which is why the Traveler did not flee unlike every other time (assuming we didn’t somehow shoot it down, but it seems extremely unlikely we could when billions of years of civilization encounters couldn’t), and the Hive was chosen by the Darkness.

[@benc3638]

This game really do be that one ex that you keep going on and off with in the most toxic relationship, nothing really ever changes but you keep coming back for more

[@BloodyPikachu]

Damn, that’s actually exactly what it’s like. Never thought of it that way but it’s true.

[@tobyscustoms4813]

Just get out it’s a toxic relationship and I’m glad I left a years ago

[@wlh4christ]

Because you see the potential in the relationship but always find yourself hurt in the end.

[@flyingpigmonkey1]

I broke the chain when they announced sunsetting and deleting content.

[@tobyscustoms4813]

@@flyingpigmonkey1 I did the exact same thing

[@deerezzd]

Just imagine if Square said they were going to cut Heavensward from FFXIV to shrink the install size...

[@IAmTheBugInsideYou]

They'd be crucified, I can't imagine another large live service/MMO doing this, especially when you pay a sub for that still too.

[@Playerz714]

This is why I hate how Bungie came under such small flac when no other games that call themselves MMO's delete even a 10th of was Bungie deleted

[@kyleeon8717]

And then imagine the playerbase cheering as the live event shows a cutscene of the content being deleted

[@Gamerkid124]

Though to be fair, everytime WoW releases a expansion all of the earlier ones just feel like filler content you have to complete to get to the real game... But yes, FFXIV would die if they ever tried something like that but it's a very story focused MMO

[@gallyggg376]

Thats a start

[@Blue-gi3zk]

I left Destiny 2 because of the content removal back when it became free.... dude that’s like a 5-6 year player gone like that

[@MrNoobRaper]

Here's a real shot in the dark, at 34:05, what is that auto rifle, cause I definitely can't find it in the collections tab. Help me out?

[@Aturtlewizard]

Seventh seraph carbine

[@MrRodrigues520]

"Do you trust Bungie to...." No.

[@Label07]

I trust Bungie to recycle the same enemies & weapons in each NEW expansion. Difference is now, they want you to re-farm for god rolls you might have already had LOL, good way to kill your game with one decision.

[@dylanjohnson9803]

@@Label07 obviously never played it cause you would know there’s a lot more

[@peacechan4500]

@@dylanjohnson9803 that's the point, because the first time you play this game it's so mind numbing that people might said nope. Heck all games literally have event that makes you went end games in 4 day, see pso2

[@oultrox8275]

@@Label07 Sunsetting was necessary. but Executed poorly if there's a lot of recycle indeed.

[@ericvlasov1815]

@I want to suplex Joe Cecot only hundreds? Weakling, pathetic.. kidding

[@phoenix9531]

We say "this is the beginning of_____" every single expansion. Not once has there been a payoff, its always been moving forward because of the hope greatness will eventually come, but it never does. Its been like 7 beginnings by now...

[@murbly]

It feels like maybe 2 expansions have advanced things and the rest has been filler.

[@-kdot-2332]

People are hoping for a no man's sky

[@phoenix9531]

@@-kdot-2332 Do they? No man sky gave all its upgrades for free, by next year destiny 2 players will be about 400$ dollars in if they bought every dlc at launch including D1, 260$ alone in D2 excluding the base game. And not counting the microtransaction store.

[@Playerz714]

@@phoenix9531 and now half of it was was removed

[@playboicartienjoyer4915]

Forsaken came close but bungie left activision so that one is on them

[@MrinalKantiM]

Thanks for the honest review. This is what I like about your channel - honesty without being biased in any manner i.e not being too patronizing or cynical. You bring a lot of perspective and experience from other games which I regard as a hallmark of excellence for a critic and reviewer. One thing you seem to have missed out though is the FOMO that Bungie has introduced with the charged with light / warmind cell mods. Those mods were were released across the last three seasons and players who missed farming any of them are now being penalized by being forced to follow Banshee on a daily basis. Pretty sure a lot of players would miss out on many of the interesting CwL / warmind cell builds by the seraph weapons retire (next season) just because they couldn't acquire the mods in time. I wholeheartedly agree with you that lately Bungie has been catering to the dedicated players. Destiny has become such a demanding game that it has become nigh impossible to explore other games without risking losing out on some form of progression or efficient farming opportunity. If one wants to enjoy this game at its full potential they have to be either fully committed like in a day job or seek fulfillment elsewhere. Unlike how many people play, this game is no longer for people who want/need breaks between back-to-back seasonal grinding.

[@Alex-re3qm]

Had to rewatch this now before witch queen That ending

[@djlee_exe]

Beyond light gave us “Deep Stone Lullaby.” Everything else is just gravy.

[@AppleWasMyIdea]

You now face godlike judgement.

[@xx_megamate_xx2508]

@@AppleWasMyIdea "you now face godlike judgement" - destiny fans to luke smith after beyond light

[@octupleye3489]

May it extend eternally

[@Haltboy]

@@xx_megamate_xx2508 Thats after every fucking release and yet no one does shit

[@AudiVicious]

@@Haltboy nobody has the balls to put the game down and walk away

[@King-mc6bt]

how many times do we got to hear that Destiny is “going to be good” man we are 6 years into this franchise’s life span!!

[@jerrytruckn]

It’s been good man.

[@cryw1092]

It's been good before... then it isn't. Up and down it goes...

[@Tythecodeguy]

It was amazing during the age of triumph. Weekly pinnacle raids, returning weapons such as fatebringer, nightfalls that actually change up the gameplay loop, skeleton keys which lets you have a chance at getting a weapon you want from a strike. Bringing every, and I mean every, piece of content up to relevance. Factions, vendor reset, new armor, weapons. ALL FOR FREE. Bungie is so full of shit I’m amazed people still have faith in them.

[@MtlRocker]

I think you hit the nail on the head in your comment. How many games run for 6 years while being consistently bad? Is it for everyone, no? Neither is Dark Souls but plenty of people like that. Hell, this 6 year old franchise is one of the top 10 downloaded games on Steam.

[@zTxMeta]

The game wouldn't be going for six years if it was always bad, you know that right?

[@otty4000]

"no one does this"(when referring to removing content), Warframe already removed raids in 2018 which is the same thing, not the same scale but. Worse change warframe ever made.

[@DRUKENHOBO]

yah but warframe has content, i can jump into warframe and know i will have fun. i know if i get a frame it will be there in 5 years time.

[@kay_keik7842]

warframe is free to play too.

[@S3Cs4uN8]

Man, DE bungled those raids so fucking hard.