Destiny 2 Lore - Who is Oryx, The Taken King? What you don't know about Destiny's Greatest Villain!

[@Lancersilva]

If you’re a lover you’ve gotta be a fighter. Because if you don’t fight for your love, what kind of love do you have?” - Oryx, the Taken King

[@ambassador8524]

Muhahaha nice!

[@avengedforever1421]

That's a quote from Keanu, why bring TTK the credit?

[@Lancersilva]

@@avengedforever1421 because it’s a joke

[@xfactor1777]

For someone that fights that taken every single day of his destiny career, this is insulting. I think their allegiance down to nothing almost, and they still come back, and you call me a lover of the taken king shame on you.

[@brianmartinez3645]

I don't know. He once tried to take me into a group where I could make a lot of money by bringing in 3 other people underneath me and they they would have to being in 3 other people and so on and so forth...

[@surprizeforyou]

Oryx: Any last words? Me: How's your sister?

[@thesteelwarden5576]

Oryx's views did not align with the Witness's views of the final shape. It's a common misconception that he did. Oryx wanted to test the worth of everything in the universe by his sword. Ultimately wanting the Hive to be one of, if not the last species to exist. He cared about the Hive, his main goal being that they would live forever. The Witness wants everything to cease to exist. It doesn't anything to remain. The Witness's final shape is nothing. Oryx would not agree with that, as he wanted the Hive to persist. Edit: It is in my opinion that the Witness's views do not align with the darkness's and it merely uses it's control over it as a tool to benefit it's own goals. I always believed that Oryx's views aligned more with the darkness. As if he understood the darkness more than the witness, or the witness just didn't care about what the darkness actually stood for.

[@Notyourstodisclose]

He wanted his species to persist towards the Final Shape of the universe, much like how Calus wanted to be the last living thing standing before the shape. Overall, the Disciples of the Witness would’ve competed against themselves for the sake of trying to be the last to stand in the presence of Nothing.

[@wearsjorge55]

Its also worth considering that we still don't know if the final shape is the last being to exist in the universe or an alternative form if it's empty nothing. Its very possible that oryx and calus are just interpreting the witness differently and the witness doesn't give a shit because they're both ultimately serving him and his goals

[@zeonasura754]

I believe in the shadowkeep lore with the winnower and the gardener the darkness tells oryx that you don’t have to kill everything to become the final shape, just enough to remove all obstacles. I feel like this doesn’t get talked about enough that there were many different views on the darkness, and one of the big reasons i felt that the witness abandoned rhulk was that he was incapable of thinking for himself. He embodied the witness views and saw anything remotely different as them challenging the witness

[@twelved4983]

Perhaps the Witness is actually letting all of its disciples think that THEY are the final shape, leading them on leashes until it’s too late to stop it.

[@SymbioteMullet]

the Vex were the final shape of life in previous cycles of the universe, before the gardner broke the rules and the flower game collapsed. they want to be the Final Shape again, hence why they use time travel, to make themselves essential to the universe. oryx wanted the final shape to be the Hive, and through through survival of the fittest was proving it pretty well. the Witness is imo utterly omnicidal, there will be no final shape, there will be no more cycles of universes, just an infinite nothing. a complete breaking of the cycle. everything and everyone that serves the witness is just a tool to that goal. i think we'll see many villains betray the witness once they realise just how destructive the witness' goals are.

[@theoldworldwarrior451]

Personally, the description of Doom of Chechis (if that's how you spell it) is my favorite because how simple yet haunting it is. I'd love a video talking about him!

[@z--r0]

I'd really love to see the taken Taishibehti Emperor Raven at some point. The thing is supposed to be so large Oryx in the final encounter is just a dwarf in comparison. Also, the time it takes for Oryx to go from the middle to one of the plates is about the time it took for taken Emperor Raven to completly obliterate it's kind.

[@guilhermeaffiune6267]

Since this videos is about Oryx life, it makes sense to speak of his defeat and the touch of malice next. It would also make sense to go through each raid encounter leading up to that moment.

[@talialevi2723]

Definitely an episode on the weapons of Kings Fall. It seems to me that the names are all of powerful foes that Oryx triumphed over, except Touch of Malice which represents our final triumph over Oryx.

[@robert-zr1kx]

Theory: Rhulk was banished to Savathun's throne world for being envious of Oryx -- a being he not only predated, but he ushered into existence by seeking out the worms of Fundament. He wanted to understand why he wasn't given the ability to Take, or as close to the Witness as Oryx. Rhulk failed to see his place in the final shape -- a disciple, not a king. A follower, not a leader. He was sent to Savathun's throne world to realize his place in the hierarchy

[@robert-zr1kx]

@My name is Byf

[@vitela2745]

I remember playing D1 and seeing Oryx’s name on regular red bars and orange bars and thinking “Man, who is this Oryx??”. The mystery behind him and build up was done so perfectly.

[@beninmalgaard9836]

Oryx, the Taken King. A name that has gone down in history within the Destiny community. It's great to see him again. If only he could drop his ravenous heart again so I can get the Touch of Malice. Lol

[@camerongriffiths8875]

Would love to hear more about the warpriest! He’s such a badass looking lad!

[@TylerC5-1]

Last time I was this early I had to explain to my wife it happens to lots of men

[@Smyl3z]

To that I will award a single yike.

[@БранимирНиколов-ж7ф]

gotta get back to grinding. can't waste time. the godrolls aren't gonna roll themselves

[@BrucetheMantis]

Sounds like grounds for divorce

[@cbandit7715]

@@BrucetheMantis bruh qhy does somebody always have to ruin the vibe

[@BrucetheMantis]

@@cbandit7715 my reasoning is explained in a way that violations of youtube guidelines

[@kylemccormack1785]

I said it before on your other video but I'll type it here too in the hopes that it's seen. I really think the audience would benefit from a video that covers the DEEP lore of the King's Fall raid, especially the boss fight, and then finishes off with Toland and Mara lore bits. I think you could get a solid ten minutes JUST explaining what the Guardians are actually doing in the final boss fight, because that Bomb Logic thing we do is kind of awesome and new lights may not know the full story.

[@ZugaTurrelai]

Something I think is worth covering is the daughters of oryx, the death singers and the choir that is talked about in the deathbringer exotic rocket launcher. The idea of the deathsong still intrigues me. A shame we will never get a warlock deathsinger subclass.

[@szxnv]

Loving the activity - keep it up. I can't wait till my friends and I are fed to do this as even though I was an OG D1 player, I didn't have many friends on console to play with, so i only completed the wrath of the machine raid fully - hope to do this and looking forwards to it!

[@aaronemmanuel1233]

Hey Byf, if possible you should see if any of the gameplay changes to the raid could affect the lore of the raid itself in any small way.

[@elegy8187]

I would love a video explaining the lore of each encounter, what we do, who we fight, etc

[@bornofstardust5910]

Dynasty is one of the most explorative and in depth Destiny lore videos every made, and that will probably ever be made. The cutscenes alone are incredible.

[@אלעדמנור]

You know what I want?? Everything. Everything you can talk about, I’ll watch with much pleasure devotion and dedication.

[@Glaedr11]

I read, a lot, of fantasy novels growing up. Oryx was the first time I can remember a video game immersing me in a universe like books did.

[@feralprocessor9853]

Right off the bat, the final battle with the Navigator.

[@Saxm13]

A million years is a long time for a conquesting species to effectively take over the universe. Definitely an endless amount of history and stories that could’ve happened in that time. Really does make one reconsider just how humanity managed to triumph over such overwhelming odds with relatively primitive weapons along side some spiffy elemental powers. Tricky fine line between a huge epic scope for lore while tying it to a focused shooting game.

[@magnusnaisu]

A video specifically about the daughters would be cool

[@paulduncan3024]

Hey Byf, I would love an update to Touch of Malice. I went back and recently watched your original video from 6 years ago. I found it fun you predicted it would be a shotgun instead of a scout rifle. Love all of your contentN

[@ctrlaltdelooms]

Hey Byf, this might be an absolutely massive request but would a ‘The Story So Far’ video be at all possible? There’s so much that’s happened in the D2 story that trying to get previous players convinced enough to play again is difficult because the story has advanced so far! Pretty sure all the people I know stopped playing after Forsaken so perhaps that could be the starting point?

[@chocolateoreo8384]

He has a overview on what happened up until shadowkeep, just before beyond light, and he's said it would be possible, but he doesn't know a way how to within a reasonable amount of time.

[@PepeLa_]

Bro I can’t believe TTK was 7 years ago, where has the time gone? 😅

[@jackolantern147]

I'd like a full raid lore video like the Crotas End, Wrath of the Machine and Vault of glass. Afterwards, I wouldn't mind seeing a video on the Touch of Malice among others.

[@rascallymanx8947]

Kinderguardian: “who is Oryx?” Me: picks up the Book of Sorrows, “Sit down awhile. I have a story for you…”

[@harrisparrish9336]

Toland leading us through. That was a cool bit. Especially when it was happy speculation

[@Zixinfinite]

I for one would like to hear a bit about the story behind the weapons of the raid, buuuut as a close second, I wish for a proper video elaborating on how and who was in the Court of Oryx (and maybe could be a bridge that can explain to new players why Alak-Hul is such a big deal both now and back then).

[@crocadillius6418]

I’d love to hear about the war priest, golgaroth, etc

[@TheCrossover369]

Every encounter. Every weapon.

[@grimloc211]

Byf this is really interesting I don’t know if you saw the leaked cinematic or not but the relics in the helm whatever they are, there’s breathing coming from them. Something dark is coming back in these things something that could be equal in calus and rhulk in power.

[@guillermomejiabatres8537]

How did he help make the touch of malice

[@unforgivenvii3189]

I just generally enjoy your content so I just want you to make them all in whatever order you prefer lol

[@tw1n5nak39]

I believe that there may be quiet the interest in the lord of the encounters over the other options.

[@lkv0315]

Oh those pyramids had a scheme alright… as always, great video!

[@Jsaldivardesigns]

Lore of specific encounters would be awesome! Like what is gologoroths deal

[@byMystiic]

the last time i was this early the exo stranger had no time to explain (finished the video before the comment)

[@VhnoriValmos]

Assuming the information is available, I would love to hear more about many of the powerful civiliations Oryx conquered over the eons that ultimately lead to his extraordinary power.

[@hiddensquid183]

Please explain what bomb logic is. It sounds interesting, like an opposing philosophy to the hive's sword logic but the only thing I could find on it was that you said we used it to kill Oryx

[@anarchy_snail]

the secret to the hives power, middle management

[@adriflux7704]

I don’t know if it’s possible, but I would like a deep dive on the lore of The Warpriest. He’s such a cool boss to me, but not much is heard of him in the big picture of Destiny.

[@isaacwillis6042]

I’d say the weapons are very key to the story for those who are unaware so I’d cast my vote for that or the bosses themselves first

[@gagebader8776]

I would love an episode on the weapons we get in the raid!

[@pietero10]

Have you ever thought off uploading your videos podcast style to spotify? Would really love listening to your stuff while outside

[@yamz1156]

You know what? I love seeing people interested in knowing more about the lore, weapons and raid encounters, this is great

[@charuto20prt]

Amazing as usual my friend. Answering your question, i want all the lore of weapons, of encounters everything. Cheers

[@gawain1268]

lore video on who Chelchis is on the Doom of Chelchis scout rifle

[@caseyriggs6264]

Oryx was the one who perfect the concept of a Pyramid Scheme. Many at the bottom feed the top. Constantly.

[@TheAHuman]

Oh god. TTK was 7 years ago

[@alexmanktelow471]

I wanted to have a look at the throne worlds so different hive gods. As an aside, I think there could be a subclass related to throne worlds although that time has mostly passed.

[@sircrimsonwolf7492]

I was inspecting necrotic grips and then i noticed GRP5 on it i’m curious what that’s all about.

[@dAni-ik1hv]

imagine how different destiny would be if the witness didnt successfully intervene with the hive and instead got to the fallen or maybe even humanity

[@oddkikisdragon1833]

Can we get a TSLAYP from KF day 1 pls? Love your videos.

[@AtlRopeGuy]

The stories behind the weapons. If that story links to the encounters, then an encounter + weapon.

[@keyvand9933]

My answer to byf's question: yes 😅

[@daletownsblount5655]

I would love to know more about the warpriest

[@hlwnspice]

What’s the crystal thing that Eris Morn takes from Oryx’s sword at the end of the Taken King campaign?

[@dylandaugherty4149]

Good audio levels 👌

[@DTK625]

I see more about Oryx's conquests and battles

[@joshsmith8715]

I want to hear more about the weapons. Specifically all the names of them. You mentioned a few with chelchis and a’arn but I want to learn more about merian, quilim, zaouli, midha, etc

[@jessetoledo4418]

You have google at the tips of your fingers 😳 ikr technology these days is amazing you should try it

[@joshsmith8715]

@@jessetoledo4418 okay but we could all do that yet here we are watching byf’s videos. Yeah we can google it but he’s a good destiny storyteller so why not ask him to do it? Heck why are you here? Why don’t you google about or about any KZbin topic you want to learn about? Your logic is dumb lmao. Additionally I don’t have the time to go and read through all the lore myself right now

[@Skull35]

Would love a Skrank Gang lore video, tbh

[@tyler-thebroodqueen]

I wish there was some lore on the deathsinger sisters

[@elitegamer9310]

There already is.

[@brandonanddanni]

More on the weapons and armor would be sweet!!

[@thefantasticalien6192]

Raid encounter lore or weapon/armour lore pls.

[@eliaspanayi3465]

I want to make some hadeum weapons in d2, especially now that we have access to the darkness to use as well

[@MCB-D3ATH]

Can we have the lore of the bosses in kings fall and the lore on the guns?

[@Jaggedfire]

Somehow Oryx returned

[@jeremymartin4755]

Let’s hear the lore on the Warpriest

[@shaynethegmann]

I feel like oryx is probably on par with or just slightly weaker then rhulk but probably not by much Rhulk fell victim to savathuns traps where oryx was able to brute force his sister into submission

[@SamsonUndying]

Talk about the raid weapons specifically the Fusion rifle lore

[@AFKnaHSama]

11:52 is definitly a nice frame-rate 😁👌

[@titansarethebest1003]

I wish to know everything there is to know about the raid

[@dmannouch]

Never seen that footage of Oryx getting his powers. Fan made?

[@DudesterGX]

So when Oryx does it its called a Tithe, but when I do it it's suddenly called a pyramid scheme.

[@pureevil6047]

Does Oryx commune with the witness? IIRC he communes with the Deep itself.

[@joenardelacruz2097]

Hmmm what about that one the light bearer its said that guys is par on oryx how is that possible? He even guarding the temple of oryx

[@skylokthedefiled9701]

Have they updated armor and weapon lore tabs from d1/d2 and is there more we can gleam from

[@norsefaka6679]

He’s the goat THE GOAT!!!

[@Vuhriaties]

Hello Byf, this is more of an opinion question then anything. I'm a long time Destiny player and frequent viewer of your videos for many years. I was wondering what is your opinion of whether or not Oryx would be considered a "Disciple"? In this video, you describe Oryx as the "Apex of the Hive" which I totally agree with. Oryx's story is compelling to me personally to consider him a disciple, but is that stretching his character too far? During the Taken King, we didn't know about the Witness, Rhulk, what is means to be a disciple, the hierarchy of the darkness, etc. However, now with more context given to us within the lore and in game over the years I think it's a fair question to ask. Is there any part of the lore that would give more credit to Oryx possibly being a Disciple of the Witness?

[@osmacar5331]

if oryx was the bbeg of hive, and we claimed his throne world... that alone, how bloody huge IS our throne world now. how powerful are we really? hey byf, wanna talk theoretics? i do damn well with theoretical and i think that chat would be very interesting.

[@infernas]

5:22 where's this footage from? Is it in-game?

[@Oni____]

I’m confused on the D2 touch of malice lore, did they retcon the gun being a vessel for oryx’s heart and just replace his heart a blight or am I wrong?

[@GhostbonesVT]

So like...... is the Dreadnaught just..... out there? hanging around in orbit? Because if it's still fair game, it IS now modeled in game for later use 👀

[@spacemegalodon5049]

Yeah it's just sitting there. We just left on of the most powerful super weapons sitting in orbit for several years.

[@federicomartinreyesjr.9302]

Personally? I’d like to learn more about the Taken themselves. What happened to things and beings tainted with Darkness, and the minds of those Taken. I always find them fascinating.

[@richardorlowski1751]

Wait we might see darkness exotic swords made out of hadium in the future

[@Hosk17]

i would like to know more about the weapons (names in them) and each encounter

[@Ka0sNinja117]

Why are there no taken guardians or taken humans? Is there a lore explanation for why he didn't use that ability on the last City directly?

[@spacemegalodon5049]

The guardians can't be taken because of the insane amount of light they have and I think Oryx viewed normal humans as too weak to be of any use to him as taken.

[@SaucyDangles]

Wtf is the footage at 5:30 from????????

[@dasberk4971]

Would love raid weapon lore

[@Furiouspenguin27]

It’s still a crime that we don’t have our exotic swords from D1

[@kj6777]

What happened to oryx’s worm? Did it die with him?

[@_CinnamonKitty]

3:31 ..."Shiter"???? lmao wtf 11/10 good name

[@Arkaeus04]

Moth’s big brother

[@seanhou2693]

Touch of Malice :D

[@moonknight87]

Finally you called the tithe system a pyramid scheme

[@nocturnal7474]

A good topic would be the dreadnought itself

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

So is king's fall in d2 cannon, or is it just there for the sake of being there?

[@nitsuJ-xr3cj]

It's just for gameplay reasons, we didn't kill him a second time or something

[@TeeBeeOhh]

i will never get over the fact that the hive are an mlm