Destiny 2 Lore - Who is the Watcher in "Spire of the Watcher" & what The Witness wanted from it!

[@HammerdWalrus]

"If the Telesto isn't sentient at this point, I don't know what's going on." Technically speaking, it is possibly Sentient since the energy in Telesto is from Mara's Harbingers used in the Battle of Saturn. Harbingers can "speak" or "sing" to the Techeuns who "bonded" to them.

[@Jax2777]

A stone in a wind current could sing to its creator as well

[@stevenericson3474]

Telesto is sentient. When it gets pissed at Bungie, it breaks the game. No doubt it will be the ultimate raid boss.

[@BambiDiego]

The final shape is purple, round, and glorious

[@jinzo637]

Telesto is trying to break free from the game!

[@Birbucifer]

@@BambiDiego so a nova bomb?

[@demitrischoenwald1436]

At first I wanted the bow because it was a cool Warmind bow. Now I want it so I can bring her remaining sentience to Neomuna and go, "See? Look at this. These people are here because of you. You did good."

[@silentmoondemon]

I did not expect to be crying over a sentient bow today 😭

[@johngancarcik5682]

Same

[@dropkickpherby6994]

Hole-some

[@KhaosDaSkyChild]

I'm not crying, it's just raining on my face 😭

[@JamesZ32100]

You convinced me to get the bow now

[@isaacwillis6042]

Quite a scary thought being so sentient that you’re able to feel yourself being slowly decompiled and shut down bit by bit with nothing you can do but purposely fragment yourself in hopes you can survive. Clovis is really a terrifying oddity all his own

[@dogsoldier123]

Reminds me of what happens to HAL

[@Mythhammer]

Keep in mind that the world is currently in the grasp of those much like CB.

[@jafogx]

Sounds to me like Clovis could use a pillory for himself before he inevitably betray us.

[@tsanguine]

an almost perfect analogy to that would be extreme dissociation, which, from experience, can be described exactly like this and is in fact terrifying (until the moment you cant feel terror anymore)

[@AvatarBowler]

@@Mythhammer Speaking of which, for a world like Destiny, someone like Clovis would be a capitalist in the truest sense of the word. Bear with me on this, because it’ll probably seem a bit weird. He founded a literal tech corporation that exploited its test subjects and expanded to fund colonies off of Earth (similar to how capitalism exploits labor and looks for other territories to sustain itself). He understood his corporation as a never-ending map (capitalism relies on infinite growth to be viable). He is known to have issues with women (capitalist history and the oppression of women go hand in hand). He has delusions of grandeur and wants to be the “last universal common ancestor” of all future human civilization (it has been said that capitalism is the end of history, meaning that humanity can do no better; there’s also the stereotype of the rich person who is smug and rude and self-righteous, which is very much like Clovis). He viewed us initially as intruders who wanted to steal his research and, even now, wants us to be careful about destroying BrayTech property (intellectual property laws are a common feature of capitalism, and private property is upheld as an intrinsically good thing to protect). His Vex research was at least part of the reason why we have Vex in the solar system now (it’s well-known that capitalism is willing to do anything for short-term gains over long-term benefits for people, since the appearance of the Vex obviously proved to be a danger to humanity’s survival). TL;DR: You’re right, Clovis is like many of those who hold immense power.

[@capivaraimperadora9703]

Seeing an “AI gains sentience and revolts” story in which the machine is trying to save everyone but is antagonized by humanity’s hubris is such a novel and refreshing take on the genre. The narrative team on Bungie really is pulling out all the stops in preparation for Lightfall

[@rav3style]

and then we got lightfall...

[@St4s1sLD]

oh god this aged like milk

[@peeko_luxx2873]

True though, despite the release of Lightfall, I agree. And I love the fact that a pre golden age settlement went undetected all this time. Despite the city feeling hollow like the rest of Lightfall, I love how that changes things for humanity in the lore. And as much as Neomuna does feel empty, we have to remember that with the shadow legion invading, their defensive measures are probably to hide in the cloud ark till things smoothed over. Either way, I’m enjoying the gameplay.

[@nyalan8385]

Maybe they pulled the stops too hard and came to a full halt for lightfall

[@flyingvct7214]

Then litefall happened 😂😂

[@BatteredWalrus]

Love the call out of sentient weapons finding their way to our guardian

[@durandol]

We are slowly turning into the Meta of Destiny 2.

[@magic_cfw]

@@durandol I hope we don't lose our sanity and lose to some bunch of idiots.

[@johngancarcik5682]

Imagine the conversation in the vault Whisper, darci, parasite, xenophage, merciless, mida mini and multitool, and others xD

[@PLBiohazard]

@@johngancarcik5682 Mmmmmmh 🤔 MIDA Multi-tool : I'm bored... Parasite : Paaaaaaaiiiiin ! DARCI : When are we leaving ? Xenophage: You're getting out the day you're getting good, quit bitching. Whisper : OH I'M SORRY if we can't compete with Mister Meta right now. Merciless : Guess I'm getting out real soon ! Whisper : So unfair. MIDA Multi-Tool : It's okay, Whiss. You'll get your chance. Whisper : I GOT MY CHANCE. YOU KNOW WHAT THEY GAVE ME ? YOU KNOW WHAT ? DARCI : Here we go again. Merciless : He's gonna say it. Whisper : AIRBORNE ACCURACY. THEY GAVE ME AIRBORNE ACCURACY. Parasite : Paaaaaaaaaiiiin ! MIDA Multi-Tool : Better than nothing, dude. DARCI : Sure is. Whisper : Like... Who's gonna use me ? That one guy with the Heavy Ammo Brick on Control ? Parasite : Paaaaaaaaaiiiin ! Whisper : You are right, fellow but inferior worm ! Parasite : Paa... say what now ?

[@potato1341]

@@PLBiohazardI bet hierarchy of needs and parasite would be firm friends! HoN: Y'all know what's exactly going on out there? I tried warning everyone hundreds of years ago that some shit was gonna go down but they ain't listen to me Parasite: Well predicted, my host travelled here alongside swarm of warships. But she betrayed them to preserve the traveller. Ended up saving humanity in process. Then she betrayed me to queen of lies and queen of lies put me in this gun. HoN: Aight I TOLD THEM. But you and your host helped us? When no one would listen to me but you saved their skin. I think we all owe you one!

[@theogknight2292]

Forget this being some of the most insane lore in the season. This was probably the most engaging lore I've heard this year. It was bonechilling to see the number of habitable worlds drop to just 2 in real time. And that it was so bad that the ai just decided to launch all the pods because it was the best possible hope of humanitys survival. Really amazing writing from the bungie, and amazing coverage from byf as always.

[@johngancarcik5682]

That is genuinely bonechilling almost in the blink of an eye everything dropped to 2 without time to even think or anything like oh f 😳 this it even makes you feel so small

[@blawsonbl]

To bad they couldn't put it in to the cut scenes...

[@zyphurite]

@@blawsonbl cutscenes are reserved for current relevant events, though we may get to see it in the future with the animated Destiny series which im hoping is really just an anthology of various pieces of past lore in the Destiny universe.

[@seanjenkins4311]

​@Zyphurite this is actually happening? What platform?

[@zyphurite]

@@seanjenkins4311 idfk that hasnt even been announced to begin with. we just know that its being planned.

[@shadowfang269]

The irony that Clovis a man obsessed with making the human race immortal pretty much allowed the collapse to occur by stopping the AI trying to stop it, while Savathun at the time a follower of the witness stopped the collapse from completely succeeding

[@kyogooch7315]

Fkin nuts

[@FT0rres090]

Wait whats this part about Sav? is there vids about it?

[@iamboringvideos6832]

@@FT0rres090 its even in game

[@917Mike1]

@@FT0rres090during the Parasite quest, her worm told us she tricked the Witness during the Collapse and that caused it to leave Earth. We don’t know what she did exactly and that wasn’t the sole reason why the Witness stopped it’s attack but it’s one of the key reasons the Collapse stopped. Myelin made a video on this kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6O5YYKsbcZ6kNE

[@eliaspanayi3465]

@@FT0rres090 play the witch Queen campaign, otherwise this is a big spoiler During the collapse, the witness and savathun arrived on earth, but savathun tricked the witness into believing the traveler had been destroyed, causing the invasion to retreat and go back out into the universe, then came back during the red war when the traveler released a huge burst of light to kill ghoul

[@demonman905]

Byf's reading as Sotaria makes me want him to be cast as an AI in a videogame or a movie. He has a great delivery for the cold, computational inflection of voice in this video

[@mightyheadcanon4487]

He so does!!

[@juanjox2006]

i just imagined Sotaria's voice as something similar to Auntie Dot from Halo Reach, idk why but it gave me that impression

[@nickrowe7451]

I want Byf to be cast as a really knowledgeable Warlock in the tower. Kind of like a keeper of the lore

[@Starfloofle]

@@nickrowe7451 I don't doubt that if something ever happens to him that he'll be memorialized... I just hope they'll acknowledge his enormous contribution to this game *before* a ghost has to find him.

[@KarthikSankaran]

There's a beautiful parallel here. What Dr. Maya Sundaresh was to Soteria is now what Anna Bray is to Rasputin. Both taught the AIs to be sentient and to protect humanity. Also, the amazing season 19 artwork depicts an intimate moment between Ana & Rasputin while all Exos (possibly hinting at Clovis) pulling away threads meant to separate that bond & return control of the warmind to Clovis. Great job, Bungie!

[@royjones4056]

I love the AI conversation brakedown in the lore tabs better than any other. Its able to hold more mystery then a typical one, I think.

[@aviatorengineer3491]

The lore this season has been fantastic, bouncing back and forth between the Golden Age and today. Secrets like Nefele Stronghold and Soteria's fate that were buried during a time on the very precipice of the Collapse, forgotten through the ages until being uncovered by present data archaeology as we struggle to return Rasputin to consciousness. I've always loved the lore surrounding the Collapse - certainly including what happened during the event itself and the immediate aftermath, but especially the moments just prior. Humanity was too drunk on its own power in the Golden Age to realize what was coming save for a scant few, but their own creations - the great Tyrant, Rasputin and associated AI - sensed the coming storm and did their best to save the species that they were created to defend. I've been picking up every scrap of information from this season so none of this was _new_ to me necessarily but this video and the wonderful work put into it helped make sense of the timeline of it all.

[@crazytalk8120]

The Darkness beckons us. And I can't wait to see the Witnesses reaction to our acquiring a power of the Dark he hasn't seen or used.

[@Catalyst375]

Witness: "Thank you for showing us the last power we needed...."

[@Empirin]

@Dagon Frazer you don’t even have any videos on your channel stfu

[@brianpurcell833]

@Dagon Frazer Well that's a fucking lie

[@TimelostInTheSauce]

@DagonFrazer2claiming that requires a buttery smooth voice like him which I doubt you have.

[@icicle_ai]

@@TimelostInTheSauce probably a bot anyways

[@justinengland8598]

i loudly exclaimed "wow" at the end, it felt like a revelation almost. thats super cool that Soteria is the reason for Neomuna being there

[@MelancholicBodhisattva]

Man, Strand is so interesting... a Darkness power that potentially requires a sort of "lack of strength" to wield, if the new trailer is any indication. It makes sense why the Witness and it's forces never figured it out, since strength is sort of their whole gimmick, and why it's going to be instrumental in defeating Xivu Arath. It also shows that the Darkness is both much further reaching than what the philosophy of the Witness encompasses, and that there may be much more secrets about it that need to be discovered.

[@donnyquick180]

I personally think that means as in lack of strength more of a more focused and refined form of power. What we have been using these power like solar stasis etc in there most primal and raw forms. Personally I think strand is a derivative of what savathun used to take the traveler, and we can use that now.

[@soulsurvivor8293]

@@donnyquick180 So a more complete understanding of the full extent and use of the ability to Take, well beyond that of the crude and blunt use of it that Oryx used? Yeah, before we knew what Strand was or saw any of the trailers back during the Which Queen there is lore that eluded to the power to Take being far more than how Oryx used it. I frankly didn't expect it to be, and am disappointed that it is, Green however. I was hoping it would relate to the Luna Pyramids Phantom & Nightmare manifeststions, thus a RedIsh colour. With the Phantoms and Nightmares being more refined and better defined versions of the Taken, which also did not require an existing subject to alter. As a Subclass for us, sort of a form of being able to manifest things from our own memory and/or memory imprinted on objects. Objects like Aspects & Fragments, Exotic armour, alternate weapon Catalysts (yeah that upcoming Exotic had me double taking) and/or Armour & Weapon Mods. I was also thinking back then that in order for us to be able to manifest anything more complex than a brick in combat, we might need to bring back Rasputin help us by granting us a more stable form of SIVA. More complex and intricate things like say; Manifesting ammunition directly into our guns, granting a temporary infinite ammo/replenishment buff (similar to Auto-loading on Actium War Rig but not taking ammo from reserves). That sort of thing, kinda making it focused on intrigrating the Subclass powers with the rest of the build far more than all the others. I was more than a little disappointed with the Synthwave Nu-Punk Ninja Tutrtles aesthetic slapping me in the face while watching the Lightfall trailers. Oh well, can't win em all. It looks fun and interesting in its own right none the less.

[@haloquayle]

@Soul Survivor I hope u see this comment. but my thoughts on all subclass elements is both light and dark elements are all the fundamental elements of creation or this universe. void is gravity solar is heat arc is energy or something stasis is the absence of energy and is no different than the void of outer space and strand with how it's described could be the green element that exists in between dimensional planes that the hive ships always flew through and crotas throne world. because throne world's are made by strong mental wills to carve reality outside of our dimension and strand is described in a similar way to that

[@haloquayle]

@Soul Survivor in essence were weilding the literal building blocks that makes up existence itself

[@kylemccormack1785]

@soulsurvivor8293 I don't understand why you all get so hung up on something as meaningless as a colour scheme. Just because two things are green does not mean they have ANY connection whatsoever. Either way, I think you're half right. I suspect the last power we will acquire from the darkness will be the Taking and resonant/nightmare domains. There is nothing at all to indicate that the power of strand is in any way related to the "something greater than the power to Take" and I don't believe there's been any indication that this is the case. In fact, Strand appears to be entirely unrelated to any other power we have touched or encountered thus far.

[@eCroz_8611]

This is the most I've been engaged in season plot since Arrivals. The mystery behind the Warmind & sub minds has been super interesting since D1.

[@joshuaroman6479]

I love that the storyline and lore of the dungeon is so interwoven in the ongoing narrative of the game as a whole, and especially that it's so seasonal and giving us a reason and method by which we could discover the colony on Neptune. That's so much more interesting than "oh Osiris saw a vision so we are going" but they are actually now backing it up with real events. Love it.

[@trial_with_an_error9687]

Something else worth noting is that if you have Hierarchy Of Needs and pull it out in the final room Soteria will have decipherable messages that when translated and put together read "Attention all guardians, you represent us. This darkness must be stopped! When the fleet is ready for battle, help me find [Data indecipherable, most likely The Veil or Neomuna], maybe the Traveler will..." The message is ended at the exact moment Persys rips Soteria out of the Spire and she creates a submind to be placed into the Bow.

[@adonay0403]

This was one of the best lore piece this season. Thank you for putting all this great work.

[@Slim-yu1ud]

This lore is some of my favorite passages in a very long time, The sparrow one especially. I hope Soteria can regain some functionality in lightfall and learn that she succeeded against all odds.

[@exostretch7991]

I love how both the AI and Banshee gave Clovis the figurative finger when he tried to tell them what to do

[@ThePresidentofMars]

When did banshee tell clovis to shove off

[@angell.rodriguezperez7427]

Lore Book Named Clovis-43 and The Lament Exotic Sword Quest

[@daniellewis3330]

Holy hell, the way all these dangling Lore threads are spread across the length and breadth of the game's history and area...and then they all fit together to form this stuff. God, it's just so cool! Thank you for being the loremaster you are, putting all this together, it's brilliant and I love it.

[@robert2german]

The moment that the Darkness ambiance started was perfect - I got chills. Kudos to the editor.

[@AymenDZA]

I find it amazing that Humanity made an AI so advanced they found and prepared for the Darkness and the Black Fleet way before we even had a clue about it. Not only that but the fact that the AIs cooperate secretly to save humanity and also Rasputin willingly scrubbing any memory he has of Nefele Stronghold in order to protect both the AI fragment and the humans that went with it.

[@DURTYMYK3]

Man, Destiny talking about the sentience of AI was not a take I was expecting, but I love how sad it all is. Because it's exactly how it would play out in real life. I don't think we would think of these as intelligent life until its thrown in our faces like how they've shown Rasputins story so far. Love this story

[@garrettviewegh677]

Exactly, the writing for Rasputin is so poignant. He’s characterized so well as more than a weapon or a machine, he’s a person. Some characters go as far to call the Warmind “he/him”. As Rasputin has experienced victory, loss, failure, has known grief and guilt due to years of war, he’s known rage, curiosity. He even called himself a tyrant, being aware of how cruel and oppressive he had been to some AIs, also him recognizing the evil in him slaughtering the Iron Lords and his own son. “The Tyrant looked upon his son, and wept”. He essentially feels any and all emotion any human can. He felt empathy, regret, guilt, loss, and grief, so far as to create a grave for Fellwinter.

[@KarthikSankaran]

@@garrettviewegh677 Bungie has some amazing lore on character redemption. Rasputin, the Shadows of Yor & Uldren/Crow are among the very best!

[@humptusdumptus4123]

@@garrettviewegh677who was Rasputin son?

[@garrettviewegh677]

@@humptusdumptus4123 Fellwinter. He was an Iron Lord that was part Exo and part Warmind. Created by Rasputin with the Warnind’s own code. Upon being chosen by the Light as one of the Traveler’s chosen, Rasputin felt betrayed and abandoned. Feeling betrayed by the Iron Lords and mocked by the Travaler for taking his son and erasing his mind, to become a ghost of himself, he killed Fellwinter and the Iron Lords out of rage and sorrow, later feeling great guilt and grief. Going as far as to call himself a “Tyrant”. As he oppressed other AIs, ruled over the subminds, and felt him slaughtering the Iron Lords was hate-filled evil after years of reflection. He saw himself as an evil tyrant for what he did to his son and the Iron Lords.

[@ALittleGreeky]

Idk if you noticed, but Soteria references an ancient Greek goddess of Deliverance and Salvation. Additionally, even the modern Greek "Sotiria" means salvation. Considering the bosses in the dungeon have Greek-adjacent names I doubt this is a coincidence. Bungie really loves that word.

[@brandonlopez8437]

That last bit of her separating her mind gave me goosebumps, can’t wait to see how things unfold throughout the season

[@malicwatts9650]

This story is so well written that when it’s combined with your narrative prowess, gives me chills 🥶

[@MrTJCM6]

This channel is gonna have a FIELD DAY when Lightfall drops, I NEED to know what the Witness witnessed (ha, kill me) through that light portal! Keep being awesome Byf, your work never goes unnoticed

[@johngancarcik5682]

Take this like and go to your room and think about what you did

[@milhousevanhoutan9235]

I have a pet theory that the flowergame was incomplete and it couldn't account for the flexibility and creativity that's created from an individualized society. Which is why the traveler came here and is running the flower game for real. In this process the cruxes that assist us are actually a fragment of the watcher that it can't acknowledge exists because the cognitive dissonance is essentially a logic plague for the entire philosophy of the witness. It's entirely possible the shock was the witness realizing that this universe has had an unintended effect on them and the consensus it relies on as the basis for its entire philosophy (uniformity, equilibrium is not in fact the necessary endstate) doesn't actually exist and that lack of consensus is what the ultimate failure of the flowergame and from the start his existence has been more or less a lie. The Darkness/Shadow is always simply an absence of light it's not a usable construct in itself much like entropy is a reduction of "usable energy" and its confirmation leaving behind lower less useful energy states.

[@Ridox117]

It’s lore like this that reignites my excitement in the story. Last season was just all out disappointment but this, this is epic. Love it!

[@mayspark9109]

"AI with feelings telling Clovis Bray to fuck off" is my favorite type of destiny lore

[@gsullivan]

This has revitalized my love for the Destiny lore, such a cool story! The fact that Soteria was the sole factor that lead to life on Neptune is crazy. The little AI who could 😂

[@aletsander8660]

This was, without a doubt, my favourite video from you this whole year, slowly figuring out and connecting the dots, the connection between the name of the bow and the lore, soterias sacrifice, it was absolutely incredible, and the world building just keeps getting better an better, thank you Byf.

[@Keksgame]

This is the kind of lore that I just can't get enough of. This is the good stuff that Bungie needs to expand even further on.

[@markricheard1870]

This whole talk about AI's Evolving and creating their own AI-Children and One Ai having Multiple Conscousnesses really reminds me of the Story of Bungie's Old Marathon Franchise, which they still own and there's been rumors that they plan to reboot it with gameplay similar to Escape from Tarkov...

[@WhiteOrb]

Your quality went up so much The "[profanity blocked]" part was sooo good! :D

[@michaelhernandez7991]

If Neomuna originated from a single pod launched by the collective/brays, it could explain why the AI inside Quicksilver recognized Elsie as a bray and allowed her to fire it.

[@Gummibeargundam]

Since Bungie names things for a reason, I looked up the Soteria. It's a Greek word meaning: any sacrifice or series of sacrifices performed either in commemoration or in expectation of deliverance from a crisis. Just thought it was neat that Soteria is deliverance from harm, and she was torn down by providing her primary function, which was exactly that.

[@elitemichael350]

So excited everytime a lore video comes out! Thank you for feeding into my love of this game! Eyes up!

[@abhishekhere8836]

Byf has such a nice and soothing voice you know? and when he was reading out the lore tab of the exotic bow from the dungeon, it was literally like someone was "actually" having a conversation.

[@johnclinnick3969]

I dunno if it's too late and this comment will be buried, but I'll note anyway. The designation M31 is actually referring to the Andromeda Galaxy, so that's where Soteria was trying to send those pods. Many galaxies have designations like that, such as NGC 300 or NGC 1512, and the one for the Andromeda Galaxy happens to be M31.

[@daveadams6489]

Loved this - Clovis almost seemed to want to sacrifice humanity to the coming collapse, or simply on the altar of his own hubris. Interesting to see how that pays out in this season's story.

[@brayissuperman]

Keep doing what you are doing Lore Master!

[@gerardaslisauskas1217]

That was such a conclusive ending!! Wow, amazing job and mannn did that hit in the end, that all that effort was for a single pod, for a single thing which now is Neomuna. Amazing.

[@xarm23]

One thing you might have missed. The predicited safe routes went from 300 to 2, in a different galaxy. So not only were the 300 routes to Andromeda lost, but also whatever number of routes were availible to Triangulum, barring two.

[@johngancarcik5682]

That is terrifying on a bonechilling level

[@xarm23]

I did look it up, and Triangulum is about half the size of Andromeda, as well as about 50% farther away. And there aren't really any other galaxies of comparible size within our local group. So I would gues that we went from 500ish (300 Andro, 150 Tri, 50 from other places) to two. (based on five minutes of googling and wikipedia)

[@mateusloubach]

Byf, I hope you know that LORE is the MAIN ingredient that kept me playing Destiny since D1 day 1. - It's been such a wonderful story, full of lores and sights seen. It really means a lot you're bringing this up to make the Destiny experience all the better. Bless you. btw: I hope the sparrow subtitle means something, as it's a line of the chorus of the great Bon Jovi song "Wanted Dead or Alive". - makes my mind flow to all the possible outcomes for Soteria. An A.I. I'm already deeply fond of. This season is going to be AMAZING.

[@zoyuzmusic]

I had been looking forward to a season focused on Golden Age AIs for a long time. there is something fascinating and mysterious in what an AI could be, and among all the plots in Destiny this is the one that seems closest to me, the most possible and therefore the most disturbing. Rasputin is my favorite character in the franchise, I will definitely be watching when more lore videos come out. great work as always

[@samusblastertron92]

Something important to remember about Maslow's hierarchy of needs is that the top of the pyramid can not happen until the layers below it are secure. So essentially we can not reach self-actualization until all other items below it are met. In the context of Destiny, this can mean golden-age humanity can not reach its goal of self-actualization and colonizing other galaxies because the lower bases of the pyramid are not met. Mainly in this case, safety, with the arrival of the black fleet. Also funny the hierarchy of needs is a Pyramid and the black fleet is composed of pyramid ships.

[@ViperNine]

One of the scariest things i know in the lore is the exact moments the AIs of the golden age realise humanity if doomed and start spewing code like panicking scientist.

[@andersonsharp1570]

My brain is hurting after this week convo with erimis and Mara when Mara said erimis was a mother I’m like where the fuck was this character development in beyond light!?!?

[@rafaelandre3404]

Finally, some lore regarding my beloved Hierarchy of Needs 🎉🎉🎉. I was really excited for it :D

[@hokozebren]

This was wonderful, thanks for telling the story in depth. And you kno Byf we always want more.

[@Khae.]

18:22 I personally think this spelling error is to point out the stress near panic Soteria is under. Also, I love the sass she's giving Clovis! Great delivery by the way!

[@mxx720]

3:13 She's talking about me. I'm the hero. I'm in all the cutscenes.

[@EliteEpicGamerz]

the lore from the golden age just before the collapse is some of my absolute favorite in this game. shadowkeep was a gold mine and then beyond light and now in the spire of the watcher and most likely in lightfall too! its so interesting knowing whats coming and how the most powerful AI created are trying to mitigate as much damage as possible and also how the people of the time reacted to the incoming information. ive been waiting patiently for lore of the collapse and i hope we finally get it during lightfall

[@mrpancake8889]

Man imagine if we still didn’t know about neomuna this point. Piecing together the location of where we appear to be heading and the hype of a possible secondary safe haven in Sol would be immense. Either way Destiny is imo in a great place currently.

[@absentzz347]

Imagine we just walk up to the Cloudstriders with this bow in Lightfall. They ask, "Cool bow, what is it?" And we respond, "Uhh... the only reason you're still alive?"

[@alfighter27]

100/10 loved it. I read everything and felt I was missing a ton and as usual you help me put the pieces together. amazing as always

[@rushramble5856]

I loved hearing the lore of the spire and the way you brought all the pieces together. The warmind and the Ana Bray story are my favorite part of Destiny 1 and 2!!! Your content continues to add depth to my enjoyment of the game. Thank You.

[@Retrunae]

This was an amazing video that adds so much value to the new dungeon and its loot. I'll be sharing it with my clan mates and we will enjoy the game that much more thanks to this content. Thank you

[@Big-Binus]

These videos have been the best thing lately. Thanks Byf!

[@L0rdSeaBass]

Pretty excited about all the lore surrounding Lightfall. The amount of information that must be stored on Neomuna must be massive, and it's likely that it's all been preserved.

[@TheCooldog]

24:32 You didn't have to edit it like that, but ya did and I am beyond happy.

[@mrthor8273]

Loving this. Please keep more seasonal content coming. 😊

[@grzetim]

The lore around this whole section is amazing. It's pulling from some of the oldest lore we have and pointing us out to Neptune. I got chills when Byf read "....azure clouds...". It would be ironic if we had a Vex tech based AI to thank for any hope we have against the Witness. I also am deep dreaming here; from the way they talk about the Soteria sub-mind, I don't think it survived. If it did, will it be part of some AI or other control system on Neptune? If not, maybe we can find the original ECHO pod that crashed there all those years ago and interface with it; could that be our the first real look at what the Collapse was like. Getting big time Alien 3 vibs thinking about that; "Was there an Alien on board?" "Yes." DA DA DUM! :)

[@sporksabre]

This one was amazing! Thanks for taking the time to make it.

[@axelvanael]

Loved the ending of the Long Arm lore entry there, and excellent video as a whole as always! While I love the lore of Destiny, it's sometimes hard for me to find the connections between entries or the 'correct reading order' for them, so I love following all of the new information we get with each release, as well as learning lore I missed from before I started playing at the tail-end of D1. Thanks for what you do for people like me, Byf!

[@xpatrstarx]

I dunno why but your voice and reading for the A.I. is so freaking satisfying

[@ericbright1742]

24:32 Kudos to the editor. That was excellently done, and f[profanity blocked]ing hilarious.

[@eternal_isles]

this is honestly making me fall in love with this weapon ever more honestly

[@nicholas19696]

If there is one thing I've seen from all the lore this season, it has to be how much all the AI made during the Golden Age sacrificed so that even a sliver of humanity may survive the collapse.

[@babongkob8502]

“I swear, anything sentient has a chance to wind up as a weapon around that guardian” 😂😂😂

[@jadecherry7224]

You know, there are times where I question why I still play Destiny after all this time, but then Bungle creates lore like this and I come crawling back everytime. Great video as always, keep it up!! 💕

[@mythspa6348]

Bro I genuinely love your content I didn't know how to get into destiny lore until I watched one of your videos like how do you make something soo damn interesting and bro you are soo good at story telling

[@kd-pt1zy]

I loved the lore this season. So far it has been amazing.

[@HexaSquirrel]

This season has some of the best lore Destiny has ever had! Thanks for the video once again, Byf!

[@jh6609]

nice vid as always ByF. I can recommend looking into the season armor and the reason why it's called Basilisk, not because of the mythical beast, but maybe it's from the Roko's Basilisk theory

[@TheCBoysDotCom]

Ayeeeeee. Good odds given the Vex tech involved

[@HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar]

Nah, why is the season ornaments and weapon Veist in the first place? Why not take the opportunity for Braytech ornaments and a new Braytech exotic? Maybe something that combined stasis with siva nanites or something.

[@TheCBoysDotCom]

@@HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar I agree, but I think they thought they’d done enough new Braytech with Beyond Light - not that I agree. I do like a lot of the Veist stuff, and that the dungeon brought in more Tex Mechanica didn’t hurt either. Edit: Typo

[@matthewsinclair2505]

Thanks!

[@millar876]

really appreciate a good long in depth lore video. thanks byf for gathering and presenting the fine work of the people at bungie that often goes unnoticed.

[@SonIronWolf]

Love love love all your work, all your work is so appreciated!! I already loved the new dungeon but not the love has grown and my want for the new bow is even higher. Thank you so much for all that you and your team do! You’re the real mvp! ❤️🤘🏿

[@enamourcade7342]

Merry Christmas, if you celebrate, Byf!!

[@Slazaryn]

the [PROFANITY BLOCKED] had me cackling at 5am, overall this is once again the tragic story of an AI trying to save us only to be stabbed in the back by, say it with me now, Clovis Bray the Worst

[@daquantrent6]

I’m glad I found my way back I never thought I’d miss watching someone’s videos but damn I miss this and this game. You got me and my girl playing this again thanks Fam. 🙏🏽

[@dickenleye]

The lore is much more enjoyable this way , thank you!

[@arratay3286]

I remember doing the spire with a couple friends last summer, its awesome diving into the lore for it like this

[@eranronen573]

Love that they called it hierarchy of need, which is a pyramid, and has the character inside bow's motive inside it, survival, a really nice touch

[@qxiche]

I really hope they make it a canon thing that Telesto just made itself sentient. Whether it's from contact with our light or it just willed itself into existence, I don't know, I just want Telesto to canonically be sentient.

[@thursdaygirl_]

this is the most enraptured i've been with a lore story in a long time, and i've been a lore nerd since d1

[@chakatsnowfire888]

i have to say Byf your lore video's always leave m with chills thinking of what will happen next for us in this amazing game

[@cosmic24wizard84]

Not me thinking that the other half of Sotaria was Failsafe, but they are two different fleets I think

[@justriskit4423]

Loved this one! The ominous tones as we realize what she is detecting were awesome!

[@andrewkonschak5060]

This lore was so good. Thank you for bringing it to life!

[@KushoKhaos]

Epic as usual dude ... love the journey and I'll be here for the rest of it how ever long that is

[@iESCAP1SM]

Thank you for this! Very cohesive and well read

[@Orkimeedees]

Really enjoying the story and lore this season, awesome developments IMO

[@SlimRhyno]

Whoa. That was intense. You crushed it, yet again.

[@kindertak5396]

The fact that we have sentient weapons in Portal in a nutshell

[@theredgamer211]

I was asking this question with my friend, then this notif comes through. Thanks for the vid, great as always!

[@dreadnought1109]

😅 I love that extra solar jumped from Kuiper belt objects straight to other galaxies.

[@tobygilbert6568]

So freaking stoked on this whole season

[@thepojo1]

Keep the Lore coming Guardian! It is something i and other Guardians never tire of hearing. This video was amazing!