Destiny 2 Lore - Why Caiatl hates Calus. He literally killed her dog. The reason why is terrible.

[@ActuallyNTiX]

Byf: *talks about how engrained War Beasts are in Cabal culture and how their relationship with the Cabal is even deeper than human domesticated dogs* Also Byf: *absolutely pulverizes a bunch of them while talking about that*

[@Dream146]

In fairness, these ones are just nightmare manifestations in Callus' mind

[@imrunningoutofnames2413]

@@Dream146 you remember when we infiltrated ghauls ship in the last mission of the red war? And we found a room full of warbeast?

[@Fireheart318]

Including firing a grenade launcher directly into one’s face

[@leaf2180]

@@imrunningoutofnames2413 I just snuck by them lol

[@kgillie2030]

@@leaf2180 I fucking massacred all of them didn't know at the time you could sneak past

[@halberd-3291]

New lore really shows how compassionate Caiatl actually is, or was. In the dungeon, Ghaul reveals to Calus that the decision to exile him to the Leviathan was only done because Caiatl prevented Ghaul from executing him. Even after Calus killed her pet and ruined cabal society in her eyes, Caiatl still didn't want to kill her father. Her reaction of forgiveness to the servant that killed the war beast shows this even more. It makes her much more of an interesting character, given the war-centric culture of the cabal. Although maybe Caiatl thought her father would suffer more if he drifted through space forever, but you'd think she would have wanted him dead outright. It's also worth mentioning how Caiatl was willing to accept Saladin's sacrifice for Crow immediately, which most Cabal wouldn't have done. EDIT: Thinking about it, Caiatl may have had an element of childlike naivety to her until the fall of Torobatl, potentially reinforced by the catalyst of her hatred for Calus being his killing of a life-long childhood pet. There are definitely aspects of that, like how excited she gets in the Dead Messenger lore over a weapon and wants her own version of the weapon. Maybe at the core of Caiatl's stoicism and determination defeat Calus is a child ignored and hurt by her father.

[@MynameisByf]

All this lore makes that decision even more fascinating. What code told her that that was the right thing to do? Did she think that was the way her father would suffer more?

[@thatdarnskag5043]

Interesting! Caiatl pretty readily accepted Saladin’s service in place of Crow’s life last season too, so that could be another example.

[@halberd-3291]

@@MynameisByf In my eyes, it could show that until the fall of Torobatl and becoming Empress, Caiatl may have still had an element of childlike naivety to her. Regardless, we'll probably learn a lot more when we see Caiatl being haunted by Ghaul's nightmare. I'm eager to hear what they have to say to each other, I have a feeling their relationship was deeper than the lore so far has let on.

[@bspoon2529]

@@halberd-3291 i agree 100%

[@zenora84]

@@MynameisByf My theory? She wanted to have him butchered as he had Milos butchered, most of all and by a wide margin. But I think that she felt death was too good for him, that even the slowest, most agonizing death and torture would be too kind. Perhaps, with people to rule over, he was content with his near hard opposite to Cabal culture, but alone, with nobody but his gold and gems to talk to? He would grow sick of it, and possibly disgusted with who he had let himself become. And worst of all, he would likely be in no shape to train to keep himself busy, and had nobody to cheer him on or encourage him to keep going, to do one more pushup. Perhaps, the darkest and potentially most fitting punishment, she would rob him the pleasure of being killed by someone else, only leaving himself to do it. I may be misunderstanding and expressing my own thoughts on Caiatl's decision as I would see them though her, because if the intentional murder of a close pet hurts as much as it does for us, I can't even begin to imagine the pain she felt when she learned that her father had his own gift to her murdered due to the fact he was a better companion to her that he would ever be.

[@popapo-spuds]

I absolutely hate calus as a person but as a villain I love him. He just has so much character to him and his voice actor lends to it

[@zenora84]

That's what makes him one of the best villians in Destiny. You hate him so much, but you can't help but respect how quality he is as one.

[@ericbright1742]

There is something refreshing and enjoyable about a villain that is so unapologetic about it. I love to hate that shriveled space rhino.

[@DIGITALGH05T]

as a person I'm like "I want Calus to die as soon as possible" but, as a player I'm like "I hope we don't kill Calus this season"

[@nerdherder9340]

@@ericbright1742 its that he is unapologetic and like, clearly having a good time.

[@franciscoandres4907]

The beauty of characters like Calus is that there's a clear difference between liking the character and liking the person. You can love a character for being in depth and having so many layers to them, but you can also DESPISE them as a person because of their actions.

[@MagatsuDiarahan]

I would absolutely love if Caiatl could be given a new chance at a canine companion, perhaps a wolf from the Iron Temple? Now that Saladin is part of her War Council, could he help introduce her to a newborn wolf of Earth? I hope she can have a companion to share love and affection with

[@andrewbeehler579]

That would be amazing.

[@lauzybro3660]

If war beasts are as engraved in cabal society as it sounds, it might be a lifelong bond that exists. So Caital might not ever get another creature so as to avoid insulting the memory/bond with milos

[@xendakakorva3267]

@@lauzybro3660 yeah... best to ask her if she would want a second chance at a companion or not

[@jam-etc]

oh my god, I hate Calus more than I ever did Savathun or anyone else. I was touched that Caiatl immediately forgave the messenger that was forced to do the deed, truly and sincerely. That's true compassion

[@WhoisPersona]

He's a narcissist, he loves himself more than his own Daughter. Literally most of the things he had said to us can or has been contradicted and it seems that he also no longer had need for his Shadow of Shadow's. He'll get his comeuppance one day.

[@LuciferD2]

he didn't love her he loved her attention

[@terrelldurocher3330]

@@xvx_k1r1t0_xvxkillme7 not to mention that god smited his son simply because he proved god isn't a perfect being because his creation fell to temptation. God is not perfect not all good.

[@burnin8able]

it's the classic egotist's playbook: give people gifts and lavish attention so they can turn around and say "I did those things. thank me for all the things I do." that was sort of the whole deal with both the storyline of the leviathan raid lairs and the season of opulence. "Grow fat from strength" was calus setting you up as his strongest Shadow so that he could say "I made you this way."

[@heerosagayuy2143]

@@terrelldurocher3330 what son are you speaking of? Hopefully not Lucifer. If you are speaking of Him it wasn’t God that smited him it was Michael. His brother threw him out of heaven not God. Common mistake.

[@terrelldurocher3330]

@@heerosagayuy2143 same difference

[@alexhampton5659]

My childhood dog was called Murphy. He was a big golden labrador and I loved him. My parents rescued him from one of my auntie's Ex boyfriends. When they brought him back home he was nothing but skin and bone. He had fleas, would cower at the slightest movements and had patchy fur. He was locked in a kenal in a garden for the first 2 years of his life. But he spent the rest of his years with us. He fed him, cleaned him and loved him. He grew to a healthy weight, got a lovely golden coat and started to trust us enough to let us cuddle him. I used to try to walk him but it always ended up with him walking me, seeing as he was maybe too big for me but I did my best. He got me through slme tough times. School was often rough but I pulled through becuase I knew i'd be greeted by Murphy once I got home. I loved that Dog. And I hope he's resting well

[@beckhornig7910]

I remember my dog Theodore. He was a weimaraner and a rescue dog. His previous owner cut his ear and gave him a stub of a tail. I was pretty young when we first got him but when we first met I grabbed out to him to pet and he didn't cower or run. He slowly walked up to me and accepted the love. I had him all the way till Highschool. He wasn't always the most well behaved dog, hell during a thunderstorm he tried clawing at a door in hopes of escape when we where gone one time, but he was always there. Always brought a smile to your face or just got you on your feet and play. He was at the ripe old age of 12-13 when he was put down, he couldn't even walk and the young naive child I was hoped that my dad would bring him back safe and sound from the vet. I'm not a religious guy, but if there is some kind of afterlife I know for damn sure that Theo is up there enjoying his well deserved rest.

[@cgray5429]

Damn this shit made me tear up

[@evidant]

had a cat that died. asked my work gc if anyone could cover me and there was a guy who pulled an asshole moment, so naturally i got mad. i was crying for a while, shit sucks man sorry for your loss, i hope theodore is thriving in dog heaven

[@DragonKnight90001]

Same with my boys Ben and Sam they are up there with the rest of my family.

[@boneyardghoul931]

i only adopt rescue dogs from abusive homes, the feeling i get watching the look in their eyes slowly but surely shift from overwhelming fear of everything to pure love and happiness when they see im making their favorite batch of food, (boiled chicken breast and stock, lean ground turkey and good ol ground sirloin with spinnach, peas, carrots and shredded blue berries) they literally wait in the kitchen while i cook it all and blend it for them and they are doing all their little dances and happy jigs cause they know their dad loves them very much

[@DragonKnight90001]

@@boneyardghoul931 keep doing you, your making a difference for them.

[@AshenHawk96]

I think it's fitting that Calus doesn't remember or even mention anything like this in his letter about Caiatl, and seemingly believes that he was a good and caring father because of the gifts he tried to bestow to her in his own absence, completely missing the important signs and turning points. Most abusive and toxic figures, including family, tend to disregard the moments that they inflict pain on others. Even if they do see the suffering they cause, they tend not to pay any mind to it, believing that it is just something natural, and the abused will "get over it." But most victims don't, instead they see it as a defining moment in their relationship, and usually bear the psycological scars for the rest of it. "The axe forgets, but the tree always remembers." It's a particular tragedy too when coming from a parental figure. Some parents try as hard as they can to just "make their child happy", without earnestly paying attention to their specific needs and being there in the ways that inevitably matter. It's important when raising a child, or caring for anyone for that matter, to remove your biases and preconceptions from the equation and take things in an open and accepting light. You can give someone all the "care" in the world, but what you may believe is the right choice may not be what they genuinely need to thrive and be happy, and attempts to reinforce those misguided beliefs will ultimately fall hollow. This season is certainly shaping up interestingly, practically as "Season of the Traumatized", and I think the themes will ring strongly with a lot of players out there struggling just as Crow, Zavala, or Caiatl are, and hopefully maybe even helping a few players realise that they're the Calus in someone else's life and begin to improve. I'm really vibing entirely with the story beats. Caiatl's toxic family relationship, Crow struggling with a part of himself that he fears and hates, and I assume Zavala's story of loss and heartbreak. Personally it honestly couldn't have come at a more fitting time, if the urge to write a several paragraph youtube comment was any indication. (God I need to start making videos already...) Looking forward to seeing you cover these next few months of content, Byf. Keep it up for the rest of the Guardians out here who still bear our own scars and haunting nightmares.

[@archmagetyler]

Heh heh check the trespasser.

[@Gamer_G33k]

The axe forgets, but the tree remembers

[@Zion_-MAR-]

Never imagine Calus would be a worse of a father, towards Caital, than Oryx towards Crota. Damn.

[@Gnomie445]

The worst oryx did was ground crota in the vex network.

[@Bucket_Buffoon]

Traditional Hive morals indicates that murder and violence equate to affection, so as to sharpen one another. Alak-Hul was a beloved adopted son to Oryx, and when he attempted a coup Oryx couldn't have been more proud. He cleaved his twins to be two separate entities and in doing so allowed the Deathsingers' personalities to make their claim in the verse, and in general went about killing and taking as much as he could. So by Hive morals Oryx was probably a great father, and one of the nicest people in the Galaxy. No wonder the Hive loved him so much

[@Porona]

@@Bucket_Buffoon i would like to see hive society pre worm as their fall was kind of unfortunate.

[@vergilbaberuthofbaseball5983]

@@Gnomie445 worst that happened to crota was when he got grounded into the pavement by gjallarhorn

[@therandomlaniusedward2140]

@@Bucket_Buffoon Hive logic: If you love someone, threaten him/her for life.

[@tigrePrankster]

The thing that makes this truly awful is that this type of person (Calus) isn't a twirling mustache kind of villain; real people like this exist. It gave my goosebumps, because my dad is one of those people. When I was in high school, my dad tried to break my laptop because I "loved it" and talking to my friends more than I loved him. Later that same year, I wasn't even allowed to be in my bedroom. I had to be in sight lines of him at all times, because otherwise I didn't love him. Hats off to Bungie for this. I'm glad these archetypes are being used, because awareness is the best tool we have against awful people like that.

[@dumberoni1023]

At least you have a father

[@tigrePrankster]

​@@dumberoni1023 What I said there is the tip of the iceberg, and the worst thing he ever did is, to put it lightly, completely un-fucking-forgivable. So there is not "at least" because hitting and screaming at your daughter is not how a father acts. That's not a relationship. That is simply abuse.

[@LooseDeuce]

Yup, much like how Clovis Bray is a special type of evil in the Destiny universe cuz its "close to home". Also, sorry you had to go thru that. I hope you are doing much better.

[@bastetlxix9251]

I hope you are in a better place with a made family that loves you for you.

[@shadowhauntjoker8501]

My Cat Cinderella: She was barely a year old when this turning point happened. I didn't like the kitten much at first because my girlfriend at the time got her while I was visiting family and wasn't even warned of it until I got back a week later. So a while had passed and she often woke me up by biting my feet or fingers in the morning. One morning, without thinking, I let her out the house just to finally nap before I did some lawn work. I go to the shed, about to get the lawn mower, and I hear something hit the side of a box. As I went deeper in, got the mower, I looked down and saw a snake to my right foot. I was about to panic until, of all things, SHE bites down on its head. I didn't know where she came from but I was glad she did that. She held her mouth closed on it's head, not letting go for even a second, and I reached for a shovel to help kill it. After I mowed the grass, we went in the house, and I poured the whole bag of kittie treats in her bowl. From that day, until her death in Feb. 2020, we were inseparable; her death crushed me for 2 whole months. R.I.P Cinderella "You are claws, you are death, you are missed." I know you said dog, but this one struck me the most.

[@wil.makesmusic]

R.I.P Cinderella. Such a loving animal who clearly had so much love for you that it risked its own life to help you. Cats, dogs, they can all be equally as caring and loyal to their owners. I personally had a cat, which my parents rescued from the awning of a shop as a kitten before I was even born, and though he never did anything as heroic as what Cinderella did, Ferdie was always there to comfort me when I was feeling down. He lived until the age of 21, when we had to unfortunately euthanise him because he had a kidney disease that had gotten worse as the years had gone on. He was suffering, and every moment was filled with pain for him, but despite that, my family could see in the way that he looked at us and the love he gave us that he was simply staying alive to be with us. The day we put him down was the one of, if not the saddest day(s) of my life, because I had never gone a day without him. He was almost like an older brother to me. Some animals just have a way with sensing emotions and showing love for their owners in a way that is beyond profound. Much love

[@shadowhauntjoker8501]

@@wil.makesmusic I feel that, I truly do.

[@dabgod487]

Lmao

[@TopBannana]

Calus always gave me bad guy vibes ever since we first met him. I knew the guy was never really gonna be our friend, and I’m glad to see my suspicions proven correct

[@eliaspanayi3465]

I've regarded him as a careful ally till now, we got some really good weapons from him back in the day, now it seems he chose his path and we'll be firmly against him. I do wonder if we kill calus, can we take over the leviathan and turn it into a flying fortress that we might use to go attack the witness

[@J-manli]

He's quite the Malignant Narcissist, showering you with praise, pseudo-affection, and rewards all as a means to curtail your favor towards him as we are means to elevate himself. But as soon as he sees a modicum of opposition, he's quick to throw the axe at us.

[@okkeschraa943]

@@eliaspanayi3465 Maybe before the Glycon experiment it would have been possible/viable. Now with the nightmares, how damaged the internal mechanisms appear (lack of maintanance?) and the infestation of those darkness plants (srry, forgot the name) it would probably be to risky or damaged to use ourselves. Even assuming that its possible to clear all of the corruption and repair the damage, the question remains if we have enough time, people and resources to repair/cleanse and man the ship without overextending ourselves (If we have enough people to do so at all, even including Caiatl refugee fleet and the house of light)

[@saikopomp]

@@okkeschraa943 i see what you mean it made me think if we were to get the ship not saying we will but if we did that would be a new safe haven an ark for humans since its massive! But i know its highly unlikely we would get the ship like you say. its already a shell of its former glory filled with them nasties

[@abyss_waker1276]

anybody with loot is our friend, good or bad

[@DragonPlays701]

When D2 launched, the Titan's battle cry was 'for the puppies!' As i squeeze the trigger on my Gjallarhorn, mine will be 'For Milos'. You don't mess with a beloved pet. EVER.

[@mattkozak3937]

For the puppies!!!!

[@StyxDescension]

I genuinely hope we get a weapon, be it legendary, exotic, or just an ornament for something, that is called "For Milos", just like we have "For Wei" for the Eriana's Vow

[@DragonPlays701]

@@StyxDescension 100% agree with that

[@CryBlade]

@@StyxDescension so, kinda like Luna's howl but cabal?

[@soulsurvivor8293]

@@CryBlade Well it could be an ornament for the Sweet Busniness the Titan in the trailer was using or for any of the Cabal Wrapons we use like Sky Burner's Oath.

[@griffinboswell]

Calus: *only wants the love of his daughter* Also Calus: *kills her dog* Everyone in the pleasure gardens: 👁️👄👁️

[@jamezzz0035]

John Wick, Titan: *”Excuse me, what the f*ck!”*

[@KMD_362rd]

My bruh moment

[@outbreakperfected5704]

@@jamezzz0035 no John wick would be a hunter

[@SsgtTucker]

@@outbreakperfected5704 There's no class that would fit him better. He's Shin Malphur but for dogs

[@DragonKnight90001]

……. Rip and tear until it is done

[@c4sualcycl0ps48]

Caiatl: “he killed my dog.” Yoseph: “…I get it…” Remember Luna’s Howl

[@anthonyfanchin1144]

John Wick: So do I.

[@c4sualcycl0ps48]

@@anthonyfanchin1144 that’s what I was getting at. These are direct quotes from Halley Berry and Keanu Reeves in JW3

[@Flyric-qx5lg]

I felt that moment where he says she’s more beautiful then any star he ever captured I felt like that Calus did love his daughter but he became cruel and more cruel

[@nerdherder9340]

Its very typical of a narcissist, loving someone in a possessive way

[@kstorsi1]

@@nerdherder9340 It's also very typical of a narcissist to view something like their own child as a mini reflection of themselves, and thus since they view themselves as perfection, so too is the child viewed as perfection. But as the child grows, becomes independent, inevitably does things the narcissist doesn't agree with or doesn't understand, the narcissist stops seeing their child in that way.

[@LegiamasC-OnTwitta]

I think you may be right, along with the responses. Calus did really seem to love his daughter, but this love became very possessive rather quickly, and furthermore he became a little gone, as he described he gave into the void in his chest, and then we got……here

[@CloneMalone]

I love how last year seemed to be focused on getting the story telling right, and now this year is about getting the character development right. Risen changed Saladin from someone who was basically just a bad ass boomer to someone you can actually relate to and understand a bit more. Crow was essentially given a catalyst, the accidental death of a Psion, to grow him as well, not just to see how he has or hasn't evolved from Uldren but also so this season he has more of a reason to face Uldren in a more literal sense. The villains have been given a lot of much needed development as well which really makes me smile, from Savathûn to Calus to even Rhulk who was introduced for only one raid. I can't wait to see what they do with Caiatl (who already was a great character to begin with), Zavala, and any other character in the future seasons.

[@psycoNaughtplaysMCPC]

I remember my beautiful black lab Luna, she was such a sweetheart, massive for her breed and equally strong and fast. I still remember those summer days where I would take her for a run when I was still in middle school, I’d be on my scooter or a skateboard and she’d be right beside me, keeping pace. Her laying down in a hot tired heap next to me while I watched cartoons in my room, she was the best dog I’ve had the chance to grow up with, I miss her dearly.

[@Lightscribe225]

I still pity Calus, if only because of the dungeon. The fact his greatest nightmare is his daughter, that her affection was the one thing that he seemed to value most; and her betrayal is what drove him to such a spiraling depression that he willingly embraced a force dedicated to annihilating all life. Just what shapes someone like him, that he'd see a pet as a threat, that his own daughter's betrayal will drive him to destroying all creation simply out of spite. And Caiatl. I'm more concerned that her nightmare is of Ghaul. What will he do to her? Drive her back into the same barbarism that made them enemies out of guilt for her failure to protect the homeworld?

[@garretburrow]

We've always had dogs as pets in my family. You can look into their eyes and see that they have a soul. They express emotion. They can get their feelings hurt. They experience joy and elation every time you walk through the front door after being gone at work all day. Your attention and affection is what they live for, along with the occasional treat. They are truly man's best friend.

[@rossreed4520]

I just lost my dog "Lola" this month due to cancer...Caiatl's recollection of Milos brought me to tears. My favorite memory of her is every night she would sleep in my arms. She would have dreams and let out little woofs like she was chasing a squirrel or something I would scratch her belly and she would crack a smile as she slept. When I had to put her down I was rubbing the scruff of her neck in tears, she wrapped her paws around my hand one last time. I will never forget my love for her.

[@truv3x]

I got my wife a pug on our 1st year anniversary. She was named Chloe. She was the runt of a breeder’s litter but she was such a wonderful dog. She was 14 when she passed away in my arms. She used to sleep behind my legs in the nook of my knees and she was a loud snorer. After she was gone, I found the silence deafening.

[@rossreed4520]

@@truv3x all love to you brother thank for making me feel like I am not alone

[@truv3x]

@@rossreed4520 hope you feel better soon 🙏

[@Neri_13]

Byf: describes the most horrific way a eliksni dies by being melted from the inside by a vex teleporting inside them. *No warning* Also Byf: yeah an animal dies in this video guys just a heads up.

[@ascync.ccp.0inull829]

doggies lifes is more important.

[@daoujadd9141]

Wait when was that?

[@ethandeis7427]

What video was that?

[@Neri_13]

@@ethandeis7427 season of splicer lore video with the eliksni captain who destroyed London and his story before coming to the last city.

[@LowIntSpecimen]

@@oddballjake229 one of the namrask videos iirc, i think it was the london one

[@Azrael_Equinox]

Who would win: Virgin Calus: _-Is a big Narcissist._ _-Led the Cabal to ruin because of his own avarice._ _-Is a terrible Father._ _-Kills his Daughter's dog because he's unsure why she loves it more than him._ _-Pays his own workers to write bad fanfiction because he can't do it himself._ _-Becomes a sad bootleg Gravemind who controls his loyalists through space fungus._ _-Is too scared to fight so uses fake robots to fight us._ Vs Chad Rhulk: *-Admits his failures and grows from them.* *-Kills his entire race because they were self destructive to a fault.* *-Has a cool Glaive.* *-Enslaves evil Worms.* *-Fights us man to man.* *-Congratulates us on our achivements within the raid and sees us as worthy opponents.*

[@somerandomschmuck2547]

I wonder if Calus won’t actually manage to make himself into a significant threat, or at least cause some serious problems for us. Only for the witness to show up in person, and one shot him when he tries to talk to the witness, you know, build up a boss only to show he’s nothing before the real villain.

[@Unsaelig]

Bad example. Rhulk is also a deeply pathetic and broken person, just more powerful in a direct sense.

[@branthro6492]

I think its more Calus physically cannot do much in his current/potentially former body. In the Captain's Log lore book he is described as mottled and pale, with thin skin and glossy eyes (cataracts or blindness I assume). He is either super old, super sick, or has degraded after his initial contact with the Darkness

[@Tahkaullus01]

Calus:For the Darkness' sake, daughter, it was just a War Beast. Caiatl: Just a War Beast? Father... when you brought me into the world I had nothing... until Milos arrived, and in that moment I received some semblance of hope. A chance to grow unalone... And you... Father... took that from me. Stole that from me. _Killed that from me!_ Ghaul's been asking if I'm with him, and I hadn't really thought about it but you know what, yeah! I'm thinking I'm with him! So you can either stand down from the Throne, *OR YOU CAN DIE SCREAMING IN YOUR BELOVED DARKNESS!!*

[@darkjesterxiii]

Did kind of get that John Wick idea when I heard that Calus put down Milo like that.

[@70vicvance]

Love the John wick reference. Major props.

[@archmagetyler]

While this is epic, the darkness aspect of callus came AFTER he exiled. But that just makes this more epic so I don’t care…

[@zeche8477]

“Oh no how could Calus kill Caiatl’s space dog!?” My brother in Light, you’ve slaughtered countless legions of these thing.

[@stevenbils]

And i will do it again

[@HintedImage]

-in self defense! He slaughtered it out of envy!

[@Gamer_G33k]

To be fair, Milos was a childs companion. The war dogs you kill in game are specifically bred for fighting, Calus even mentions as much by saying Ghaul viewed them more as weapons than as companions.

[@amonumenttoalallyoursins1207]

And I will do it again and again.

[@leviathan3854]

I know how Caiatl feels. I had a cat, his name was mustachio, he was my best friend. Born with a crippled back leg and a lil white mustache (hence the name). He always laid with me, he was never mean, never scratched or growled at anyone or anything. He would always run up to visitors, wanting attention. Sadly, my father poisoned him while I was on vacation. I have no proof of it, but I know he did it. He hated my cat. He was the only one. And he was the only one in this house to not go on the vacation. He was 9 years old when he died in 2019. I have another cat now that reminds me of him, the same mustache, but not the crippled leg. He was born a year after my other one was killed. So it's almost like he was reborn for me. My sweet Tres, he follows me everywhere, just like my mustachio, always purring, always rolling around for attention. I like to believe he was reborn with full functioning legs, so he could live a normal life.

[@doriscrouch2155]

I'm sorry you had to go through that.

[@montecarlo6995]

I'd turn him in.

[@DaReaIJesus]

Did things change with your dad afterwards? Did you treat him differently than you did before? If you don’t wanna answer that’s cool it’s probably too personal but I was just curious. Really sorry for your loss though. RIP dogo

[@leviathan3854]

@@DaReaIJesus of course. I watch him every day. I don't trust him around any of the animals we have. I'm going on another vacation in July and I'm considering getting some hidden cameras. If I catch anything I will turn them in to the police.

[@xxx_vltr_xxx6794]

do you have any friends?

[@itshawx4697]

My fav pet moment was when my 7 year old rosy faced love bird first sat on my shoulder for the first time. We got him from another family where they were neglected for years and started hating humans. His partner got health issues that eventually caused his death and since we didn't want him to be alone we got a new bird. A 2 month old blue lovebird who had no issues with humans. After having had the older one for a few years now and him never really liking to be around us he probably realized that as we didn't harm the baby bird we wouldn't harm him either so one cold winter day we were playing with the baby and he was just on a shelf as far away from us as he usually was. Then while I was feeding a peanut to the baby I felt a small gust of wind on my shoulder and some prickly sensation. I looked over and saw the old 7 year old bird sitting on my shoulder, still on edge but on my shoulder none the less. After around 4 years he actually decided to try it out and trust us. And ever since he has been cautiously comfortable around us.

[@gothmfsalem]

I love that Byf used The Hunted as the backtrack during of My Daughter: Caiatl, the Princess-Imperial since the track is so intense and I picture the deposed Calus speaking the words, "You mistook my joy for weakness. You understood nothing of who I am."

[@arsenalxa4421]

Caital mentioned reading Sun Tzu last season. We should let her read "Old Yeller." In fact, I've got a reading list for her.

[@arbiterprime2145]

I think shes enjoy and relate to watching John Wick

[@DLCJRpc]

I love how commercials pop up whenever you quote some; Calus’ evil deed was trubill and Kytal part in the midnight Coup was learning vaping destroys lives

[@macatacwarrior7204]

he killed the dog? okay, time for midnight coup 2: electric boogaloo

[@Techhunter_Talon]

Time to gut the Leviathan wholesale? Maybe repurpose its reactor as a weapon against the Pyramid ships? Sounds like a plan.

[@nullandvoid7524]

Well we kill like 6 of his in the raid.

[@Jukantos]

Oh i will ENJOY putting Calus down after this story.

[@eranronen573]

Love the Deadpool 2 reference

[@Ffejjj]

8:14 Byf: They REALLY love their dogs Also byf: gernade launchers a dog to its face

[@BoisegangGaming]

You know, even with all the experimentation, the megalomania, and the sheer hedonism and superiority Calus exudes.... Killing a dog is the worst thing he's done.

[@elitegamer9310]

Can think of a few things he did worse than that.

[@soulsurvivor8293]

Hedonism isn't inhernently a bad thing either. Only when it is done to the wanton excess, at the exoense of all else is it a problem. But that is gerneraly true of most things.

[@Tyztube21]

I love all these comments about hating how Calus killed Caital’s dog, to people talking about their own dogs. A truly beautiful community we have.

[@DragonKnight90001]

Would you have it any other way? I know I wouldn’t want to change a thing about this community.

[@goldenguardian8753]

I swear if we could ever have ‘pets’ or companions besides our ghost to accompany us or have in a hun space, I’d love a war beast to call my own

[@djrosette]

Me too. I think that would be cool for our guardians to have both ghosts and war beasts. Maybe the ghosts could heal our guardians pets should the war beasts get injured in battle 🤔

[@KapasaGamer]

My favourite pet memory is that first day my shelties crawled out of the closet, jumped onto my bed, and snuggled. I had rescued them both and it had been 3 months of letting them hide, cleaning them, and giving them food by hand.

[@jaredtherock5692]

I just saw the ending of this video, and I almost cried. My pet Oliver just passed away a couple of weeks ago, but I remember how happy he was when I would come home. I always told him "hey buddy!" And he would meow like hell and he would bunt my leg for like half an hour. I would rub his neck until he dropped on his side purring from leaning so much. He had an enlarged valve in his heart. We couldn't do anything, but it was okay. He is in a much better place, I'm sure. I will never forget him

[@joshuacalebroman478]

I’ve had a dog of my own for four and a half years that I raised from a puppy. He got me through some really tough years and legitimately gave me a reason to keep going and trying through some darkness. If someone hurt him, you had better bet there would be consequences. I feel for her.

[@yorha42s]

Honestly, I can’t stay apathetic to Calus. Mainly due to the fact that Calus gave us Midnight coup (and now a farmable/craftable Beloved)

[@WarMooseEternal]

my best memory with my pet.. I have a 4 year old German Shepard named dax and he's my buddy. my companion. he became my dog the minute we got him and he come home. watching him try to climb stairs was probably the best part. he came at a really low point and helped me get out of a really really low point in my life. he is my milos.

[@ashumon23]

If I wear my title of Shadow, I wear it so I may remind Calus of how it feel to be betrayed by those he trusted most; so my knife may be twisted just that little bit deeper. Just as on Torobatl.

[@TheReecesl94]

My dog that I had to put to sleep earlier this year, we went to the beach when the tide was out and there wasn't a single person in sight, she ran for miles up and down the beach then we both ate icecream, I miss her.

[@jb-ll4nz]

My best memory is of my dog (Zoe: Dalmatian, Doberman mix), when my daughter was born not more than 3 weeks ago , we worried as any parent would about the dogs response to the baby. Not that she has ever shown and tendency towards violence, but alas we worried. We got home after being in the hospital and put the baby down on the couch and Zoe walked over and laid next to the baby and laid her head on the babies feet, as if she knew this little loud sometimes smelly small human was now hers to protect. Now anytime anyone she does not know goes near the baby Zoe is there laying next to her. I couldn't have asked for a greater friend.

[@garrettviewegh677]

Calus, even before becoming a Disciple, is the perfect representation of a few of the seven deadly sins: lust, greed, especially sloth, gluttony, envy, and finally, pride. He doesn’t seem even remotely wrathful though. If he is, he’s very passive about it.

[@elitegamer9310]

Truth be told this does not surprise me that much. Still messed up, but of course he would kill his daughter's own pet out of envy.

[@danconti5984]

Calus is the ultimate form of "The worst things are done with the best intentions". I think thats why the Witness chose him.

[@gavo7911]

Best intentions? That delusional maniac has only ever valued himself. Every single action he has EVER taken has either been to benefit himself or satiate his own ego.

[@ciaraperry3917]

We've had dogs since my first one when I was 5. Lady was my family's first good girl...incredibly sweet, loyal, & protective. Our second good girl was Trinity. We heard about her from friends who volunteered at our local shelter. They say it was the faster adoption they ever had. Now, my husband & I have our sweet & sassafras Evie...who will be a year old next Saturday. I believe this for me..."A home is not a home without a dog." Evie definitely completed our home.

[@Techhunter_Talon]

If Calus wasn't an unforgivable monster before, he sure as hell is now.

[@MW2proification]

@@droneant7602 well it is unwise to trust him for what he claims to be the truth until you see the real truth inside the dungeon event

[@MajicMarco]

I love how he puts a warning about the death of an animal despite the fact that if you're watching this video, chances are you've killed at least one warbeast

[@Gamer_G33k]

To be fair, Calus mentions that Ghaul weaponized the war beasts, before they were just pets and companions. They were most likely bred specifically and starved in order to make them go after guardians. And even then, a Cabal would not feel as bad for their war beast should they have died in battle. Calus made an innocent servant slay his daughters companion, not a beast of war. Milos wasn't trained for fighting, he was trained as a companion. The war beast we fight are armored and weaponized.

[@Elessar_86]

My favorite pet moments were when I'd get home from work, and my two cats would almost immediately jump in my lap, and next to me when I sat down. It was indescribable how precious that was, and how much Love they showed me. Boy do I miss them.

[@gldni17]

Calus was right about exactly one thing: The warlike ways of the Cabal would lead them to be destroyed by war. I just took a while to get there. As for pets, I don't really have much experience with pets, as I don't really trust myself to take care of someone else when I can barely take care of myself most of the time, but my roommates' cats have historically always been very affectionate and calm around me. My best memories of them, though, are when they would curl up beside my roommates whenever they were sick or in pain, lying next to them and just being there for them. I'm glad to see that kind of closeness, and I can't really understand how seeing such a thing would drive one to jealous violence.

[@EvilEnjar]

Glad to see some of the Patrol dialogue being talked about. Some of the ones talking about how the Egregore mushrooms work are really interesting.

[@Forcer69]

*John Wick approves*

[@spartan9669]

Starts to reload telesto

[@elitegamer9310]

@@spartan9669 DON'T TOUCH THAT GUN!

[@eranronen573]

I call him him you make a dinner reservation

[@popdog165]

I literally watched the first John wick for the first time right before watching this😭

[@neildelossantos3183]

It seems like The Witness is drawn to potential Disciples that slay other people's pets.

[@adenweinberg8784]

As someone who only played the dungeon on the first encounter while trying to solo it, there hints that Caital and Ghaul have a relationship of sorts outside of the Coup. Especially during that dialog that Ghaul only spared Calaus to exile because Caital asked him too. Maybe they grew close as war strategist or their apparent goal of returning the Cabal Empire to its traditional roots. Or maybe they respected one another as warriors.

[@joelrobinson5457]

Or... He got close to her, used her and then abandoned her.

[@bait644]

I always knew Calus embellished his story behind his coup. But straight up lying? Well... 'fool me once-' *proceeds to unload as many Sweet Buisness rounds as possible into Calus* Ciatal earned my affection and respect since her arrival. From her first REAL lore reveal, to now she's one of my favorite characters aside from Saladin and Crow and even Missraks. Ciatal is truly a leader who's endured much just for spite but... she grew to be a great leader. I'm proud to fight alongside her Cabal.

[@БранимирНиколов-ж7ф]

Villan: *kicks a puppy to show ho evil they are* Calus: "Hold my beer"

[@laffinatyu5960]

Don’t push yourself to force out videos so quick take your time your vids are special because you genuinely enjoy making them

[@UmbrasMercy]

Man now I am really curious about the Calus' shadow timeline for the guardian of it was going on during this season.

[@Dream146]

That was always just part of Callus' self insert fan fiction of the end times.

[@franciscoandres4907]

Oh yeah, I forgot Calus wrote fanfiction about us.

[@edwinrosario3849]

So basically, Caiatl had a John Wick moment... Calus is very lucky to even still be alive at this point. Though, pretty sure Caiatl is regretting not letting Ghaul just slip the knife in when he had the chance.

[@VanpyroGaming0]

Caiatl is now a Joestar.

[@MoonlightLulamoon]

Danny ;-;

[@Raian...]

Caught me off guard

[@ErnieOporto]

Ahamkara followed the Traveler. The Cabal had to have been visited as well.

[@jessebroberg]

My Guardian: "Sorry Zavala but I am now pledging my loyalty to Caiatl for now. After learning all this... Calus needs to die no matter what! Will come back to you after we kill him."

[@Legendi-chan]

My favorite memory of my pet dog is that i had him when i had no friends and i was spiraling faster and faster to depression. Ill never forget my dog.

[@TyingSaturn]

Fun fact: the official Destiny 2 chess set states that the Consul's name is Iago.

[@DragonKnight90001]

There’s a chess set?

[@TyingSaturn]

@@DragonKnight90001 Yeah it came out when D2 released iirc. Nothing too special, just cabal enemies vs guardians (and the pawns for the guardians side were sweeper bots)

[@DragonKnight90001]

@@TyingSaturn just looked not bad, not bad at all

[@Petriqthegreat]

My family always had cats. But it only was recently that I finally had one of my own : Jóla, a small blue russian. We found her outside our appartment, freezing in the cold of winter, last january. This year in Quebec, we reached temperature under -40 degrees celcius, so no animal of her age would have survived a night in these conditions. She was just a kitten; not even a month old. She is now more healthy than ever, enjoying life at its fullest while slowly facing her fears of the outside. I have a picture of her when she had just found her; small and curled against my chest. This picture still makes me cry to this day.

[@BgChf-dg5lv]

I’d like to introduce Caiatl to someone. He was once an associate of ours.

[@arbiterprime2145]

we called him "Baba Yaga"

[@BgChf-dg5lv]

@@arbiterprime2145 well, he wasn’t exactly the boogeyman you see. He was the one you send to kill the F&@@&:; boogeyman.

[@johnjha3257]

Mine is with my dog Oliver a Husky, golden lab, beagle mix. When I got home from the military he was so happy that I was home and hasn't left my side since I got home back it 2018. He may be mouthy and annoying but I love him.

[@jonathanmacpherson1421]

My family adopted a rescue shortly after christmas last year. He's an 8 y o "mutt" but is one of the sweetest if laziest dog I've ever met. He's so food motivated that even for a dog he's ridiculous. Whenever I try to walk him he would lift his butt at me in refusal. He's called sumo and I love him

[@shadowcatch4731]

One of my first and favorite memories was of my cat dill i had gotten her for my 4th birthday and all i really remember of that day was her head peaking out of a discarded box just watching me. Sadly she passed away a couple of months ago but i had her for almost 20 years.

[@theguiltyplayer9207]

I may be reading too deep between the lines here, but i think byf wants a War Beast as a pet.

[@starlightthewolf6612]

Who wouldn't? They're the best of bois

[@Spckeck]

My dog (a shepard mix named Kato) once broke out of my house through the front screen door. We found him (perfectly healthy) laying down on the back patio. We looked at him like he was nuts, he looked at us like we were stupid.

[@teo2216]

Me patiently waiting for by two do you video on the new dungeon👀

[@ThermalsniperN7]

Not only Calus an opulent narcisist, he was also the Dio Brando to Caiatl's inner John Wick. Does anybody else see that, too?

[@MalcIgg]

My first thought was - you just dont mess with someones loved pet - we know what happens thanks to John Wick

[@NotASpyPootis]

u know, when i got that voiceline i screamed anyway we gonna mention the amount of times we've killed war beasts such as in this video?

[@Flamme-Sanabi]

But us killing them is different from Calus doing it to his daughter's war beast. Ever since Ghaul, war beasts became less of the partner and friend for the Cabal but just a war asset. With Valus Forge it might change, seeing how he had wolfs.

[@NotASpyPootis]

@@Flamme-Sanabi yes, it's just very funny how byf kept talking about how much cabal love their war beasts while absolutely annihilating them

[@NotASpyPootis]

@@Flamme-Sanabi i wonder if we'll ever get a pet of our own, i mean, so many characters have gotten one

[@Flamme-Sanabi]

@@NotASpyPootis Ghost.

[@NotASpyPootis]

@@Flamme-Sanabi ah yes, ghost is a pet

[@nettaatzili1936]

My family adopted a dog about two years ago. She was a stray for most of her life, and she was found when she got stuck in a fence, which injured one of her legs so badly it had to be amputated. She spent two years in a shelter before we took her. We have three cats, two of them are twins, and they were just a few months old at the time, so they were absolutely fascinated by her. At first, she was a little intimidated by them, but a few days later she allowed them to lie down on her and they started following us when we walked her. I still see them cuddle together sometimes.

[@Jukantos]

Thing i don't understand is why Caiatl would insist her father be captured and killed during the Presage mission, yet be the one according to the Dungeon lore that stopped Ghaul from executing Calus. If she wants him dead, she would've had ample opportunity to see that fulfilled, right?

[@jerec1267]

2 major things have changed since. 1: The fall of torobatl (probably butchered that), losing her home has probably made the empress a bit less inclined towards friendliness. 2: Calus sided with the darkness. Calus, as emperor, was a wasteful man but by no indication was he the fanatic cultist we know him as today. His journeys aboard the leviathan since being exiled have changed him into becoming the new disciple we know now. In many ways Calus is no longer Cabal, which makes it perfectly justifiable to kill him.

[@nullandvoid7524]

She wanted him exiled so he would never be a threat to the Cabal again. After the events of the Glykon and current events he's just too dangerous and unpredictable to be kept alive.

[@williamcrisp6032]

Probably wanted him to suffer, via eternal exile in a prison ship. Then he joined the physical manifestation of evil that wants to kill us all so i imagine that changed her perspective

[@LordDoom10]

She couldn't bring herself to kill him back then (or had to spare him for political reasons). Now, things are different.

[@acgearsandarms1343]

She could just want the satisfaction and duty of doing it with her own two hands if she can.

[@shoegaze_enjoyr]

my cat just passed away on wednesday. i had him for 18 years. he was there for me nonstop when i was sick and nearly dying a few years back, after having a severe crohn's flareup. he's helped me through so much panic and distress and negativity, and i hope i helped him through his passing. im just happy i have so many photos to look back on.

[@goldenyak629]

It's funny, because in a weird way I always saw Calus as an emperor that was more benevolent than most dictators - he dismantled military power and promoted learning, advancement, equality, wealth distribution, and other great social reforms to provide hedonism and pleasure to the masses of the Cabal. He wanted to be adored by the populace, but in some weird way he was too narcassistic to accept false love. It had to be genuine love, and so he was compelled to actually earn that love by really trying to make a society of peace and prosperity for as many people as possible.

[@J-manli]

The thing is, Calus was always written is an un-reliant narrator. He ALWAYS made sure that his scribes write him in a good light.

[@mori2037]

There's something inherently wrong with doing something to make people love you, I think. If he served his people well, that true love would have found its way to him in no time. but he was impatient, and formed his society in a hedonistic way not for the pleasure and wellbeing of the people under him, but so those people under him would lavish him in praise. similar with how byf said he treated his daughter. gave her gifts, not specifically for her happiness, but to hear her give her appreciations

[@C.M.Giordano]

I had an Australian Terrier named Murphy. I got him when I was 16. I've also had health problems since I was a teenager -- I ended up having to test out of high school because of them. So I was sick and in bed a lot, especially when Murphy was young. Firstly, Murphy could always tell when I wasn't feeling well. It didn't matter if I was in a different room, on the other side of the house, whatever. As soon as he realized I didn't feel well, there he'd be, curled up next to me. Secondly, as a terrier, Murphy was fiercely loyal, sometimes to his own detriment. Because I was sick a lot of the time when I was younger, and as previously mentioned, Murphy would always come find me when he knew I wasn't feeling well, getting Murphy away from me when I wasn't feeling well was...difficult. He would get so protective of me, he would growl and snarl at anyone who dared to try and take him away from me, even if he really needed to go outside or it was time for dinner. Years later, Murphy was diagnosed with diabetes and eventually went blind (something I've since learned Aussies are somewhat predisposed to), but that didn't change anything. As soon as he realized something was wrong, you'd hear a thunk, thunk and there he'd be (the 'thunks' being from him bumping into walls because his vision had become very bad). I miss that good boy every day.

[@mahazkei7709]

After watching this video and reading the comments below, my respect for Caiatl, her conviction, drive and character has multiplied tenfold. And my loathing and despising of Calus, multiplied a hundredfold. I may have liked his Leviathan's architecture (design as an opulent exile vessel, and sheer scale of engineering), appreciated his tastes and respect of the arts, and not only wanting war for his people, I may even still accept his gifts, given, or taken... but I will never again forgive him of any act. The creature is an envious one, and when it comes time for us to kill him... I will gladly let Caiatl give the final blow. She might have given him some mercy and suffering in exile, rather than killing him before, but now... even before, when we hunted him, she wanted to see him die. But she gets dibs on landing the killing blow. Any one of you tries to take that from her, you answer to me. If Caiatl herself doesn't make you answer to her, first, that is. -Mahazkei, Colossus Titan.

[@TACKO3D]

that bit of calus dialogue feels like enough justification as for why warbeast are so significant to cabal yet not in D1

[@glitchreloaded1284]

quits destiny, a year later, byf posting the reason why caiatl hates calus, me: i'm sorry he did what exactly?

[@LlZARD0N]

My first cat Fugly(my mom named her not me) would always know when I woke up and she would make a chirp noise, hop onto my stomach, and proceeded to purr loudly. It is still my favorite memory of her.

[@ModeKaioken]

I herd this story in like 10 seconds on the dcp pod cast. I really don't think it was that big of a deal it needed drawn out video. Here let me tldr it for you. Video tldr: calus got his daughter a dog then he got jelly she like it more then him so he got rid of it and painted it as if he was doing it to make her strong story over. No need to get emotional its not a real dog its just a story in a game.

[@nieralyte6531]

my childhood dog, Jazz, a black Labrador, always used to cling to my back when i went down the slide in our old back yard, i still have a photo of them on my desk, miss that dog everyday.

[@AngelGonzalez-dn3pb]

First

[@emperorraccoon2805]

35 seconds in. How are you so fast?

[@firenzarfrenzy4985]

It really makes sense when you see thta his name literally means insensitive. I'm amazed Caital didn't just go full John Wick on him

[@gabrielpineirogarcia2078]

Another interesting tidbit is that in the Dungeons 2nd and final encounter there are so Many warbeasts. If these are Calus nightmares, maybe the memory of Milos lives on in his guilt hainting him for What hes done? The end flavortext of the Dungeon has him have a breakdown: "What have I done to push her apart so much? What have I done?"

[@kurohaizaki8951]

Me as a Hunter: “Hey Shaxx? Do we have a Cabal-sized Hand Canon suited for Caital? . . . Yeah her War Beast was killed by Calus, so could we get a gun called Torobatl’s Roar or something?”

[@BanditGraves989]

I thought I could get through this video, I really did, but having just come off of de-quilling two dogs in three days from separate porcupine incidents, I just can’t. I love you, Byf, and the portion that I did watch was magnificent, but I’ll have to finish it another day. Per audacia ad Astra, frien

[@Dragore94123]

my favorite memory with a pet is the Dalmatian i grew up with as a child. her name was patches and she was such a good girl. she was so very loyal and loving.

[@DramoolVecone]

When Winnie first showed me she trusts and loves me, when she cuddled up to my leg…

[@shinobialchemist]

I like to imagine that Crow didn't respond to Calus at the end of that clip because he needed to throw up.

[@vandal6382]

My favorite pet moment was when my Mouse Stewart was comfortable enough to let me pick him up.

[@thomaspurol9322]

My favorite pet moment is literally almost every moment with my dog Mac, he lasted 16 years and was the best cuddler

[@pugwash1]

man caiatl and josef would really get along given how they both lost pets close to them

[@heathcook9754]

My favorite memory is of my first dog Groot. i met him shortly after he was born as i was a friend of the mother dogs owner. he was just walking around all dopey (he never grew out of that) and one of his brothers walked up and latched right on to his tail and was tugging on it. Groot just looked at hit and kept in walking, ignoring him completely and dragging him with him. i knew he was gonna be my boy at that moment. i miss that dog dearly.

[@SealFormulaMaster]

Shadow, the dog my family rescued, was so sweet. Reminds me of Milos. He would sleep next to me in my bed all the time when I was young. He was always there, no matter what. One day we found a stray pup under my dads car, he was so scared of us, but Shadow sat next to him and made him feel comfortable around us. I missed school that day, but at least Copper had a family now, and an older brother in Shadow. I sure miss them. I hope I gave them the best life I could while they were here. And to Calus, I wish he were alive. I want to torment him, to see him suffer. He's likely just a husk now, no use in keeping him alive. Not even worth the ammo if you ask me, cheaper to put a knife in his skull. When his raid or whatever comes out, I'm going to do my darnest to make that happen. Might not like Solar 3.0, but I'll use it just for that.