Destiny 2 - WERE THE VEX HUMAN? The Original Final Shape

[@7bracket7]

Love listening to lore and then happening to look at the bottom left and seeing “DookieBootyFartWater” 🗿

[@Spr0ket]

That man is a lore accurate guardian ,for sure

[@jasonkeely7269]

😂

[@105thBattalion]

MaraSov’sBathWater generated 3 Orbs of Power

[@OldManLucid]

I had the exact same thought lol

[@Vosik_Splicer_Archpriest]

Zavala'sCleaningService has stunned a champion

[@brownpower9229]

How quickly we forgot the D1 beta content. When D1 came out I saw a leak that had ALL this. The person even leaked the new supers that didn’t come out until WAY WAY after. The beta leaks said that the Vex were basically the final evolutions of the humans/exos. I’ll try to find it but it feels like all they’re doing is just going back to what they wanted to do before activision forced them to scrap it all.

[@SUNKENCOMET]

Drop link in comments if you find it

[@kado641]

Please find that

[@JCTriple7]

Yeah this makes sense I remember sir wallen even made a theory about this in one of his now ancient lore videos 😂

[@ShadowDreamer100]

After the most recent layoffs, I don't think you can really blame Activision for this. They obviously didn't like how ambitious Joe's writing was until that was all they had left to go on, and had to re-insert it to the lore in D2.

[@mummyheadGamma]

“When the universe was forged in the crucible of the Big Bang our mighty race was already 17 years old.” - The Vex, probably.

[@DarthKitsune]

I always thought that the Vex were either the twisted side of the Exo's or the ultimate form of Exo's in the far future. Once we found out about the Veil and Neomuna, I figured that the Vex were those people.

[@martinlewisfoster8503]

final shape collector's edition is in zavala's office

[@30006714]

This has been a long standing thought of mine. Most people will remember back when d2 vanilla launched there was a quest for the sturm and drang where you had to follow a harpy which was actually friendly. It never actually confirmed it but implied that the harpy was actually someone called captain jacobson from the first landing party from exodus black to nessus.

[@lemmiwinks200]

When you take 'your just built different' to heart

[@KabbalahSherry]

8:29 - Your friend has quite the gamertag 😂💩

[@SepticEmpire]

Wish we could see it in game man It’s so hard to care when it’s on some random gun I don’t have or I have to watch KZbin for it

[@SSJGaelY0]

destiny has had this problem for years and always will

[@yasininn76]

That's quite literally how games work. You either find small snippets of lore hidden in maps, weapons, sites on the internet or you just play the game

[@levicarpenter5509]

Imagine if the vex actually are humans from a different reality that augmented themselves so much to where they became the vex

[@karakuri002]

Nah, that means we have been killing Neomuna citizens

[@xXx_Regulus_xXx]

​@@karakuri002and yet Nimbus still lives :/

[@stoneycooper9758]

​@@xXx_Regulus_xXx Barely, im oretty sure the Cloud Striders only live for like 10 years or something

[@raekwonchambers2297]

Imagine if Clovis entire plan was to integrate ppl into the vex leading to him converting to being a vex god that will be able to fulfill all his goals

[@majesticmajestic7058]

​@raekwonchambers2297 He wanted to be the Luca or single common ancestors for all of humanity, basically everyone comes through him as the pathway to existence and the future.

[@chrisborges7344]

Seems way more likely that they're the remains of the ammonites. Almost every concept within the Destiny story copies concepts from their previous stories in Halo, Marathon, Myth, and Pathways. You can figure out most of the answers in the Destiny universe by digging into those stories.

[@DrJTPhysio]

love it when DookieBootyFartWater makes and appearance.

[@ShakaarGaleed]

I've pointed out similarities between the Vex and SIVA a number of times, but get shut down and laughed at. Glad I ain't the only one thinking like this. Thought I was a little spinfoil hat crazy

[@gh0ul2559]

I just realized something, if those similarities between the Vex and Siva are not a coincidence, then I think there is a plausible way Rasputin was a hard counter to the Vex

[@majesticmajestic7058]

​@gh0ul2559 The researchers used him to get past the Vex simulation since Rasputin was too complex to simulate.

[@gh0ul2559]

@@majesticmajestic7058 oh right... i forgot, thanks for the reminder

[@nicolopanti1169]

It is even implied in the veil containment lore entries that siva was created by studying the vex radiolaria.

[@michaelcollins5819]

I was always under the impression there are no individual vex like there are humans. Each goblin or Minotaur or whatever is a different suit worn by the radiolaria. I’ve always imagined the radiolaria as a sort of AI that pilots the mech exoskeletons. Something about the exodus program and soteria running millions of simulations reminded me of the vex IDK!

[@moonwhooper]

Is crazy that vex haven't been that important pretty much since beyond light, considering where they came from.

[@ScourgePrimal]

3:40 - If a Vex came out and said "Yo" to me, we already lost. XD

[@vgernyc]

One did to a guardian in the current saga. A passing guardian killed it though

[@ScourgePrimal]

@@vgernyc I did see that one.

[@vainthedestroyer]

Hope they make a ornament where they show the mythoclast final form that would be crazy

[@TheSilentHarp]

I keep wondering if rather than human, it is the Witness. After defeat, the lives are dispersed, take a mech each, and crave that hive mind they've been used to, and to complete their mission of the Final Shape with these new limitations. And yeah I know very unlikely, but keeps crossing my mind 😅

[@ErnieOporto]

Banshee-44, exposed to the memory inducing effects of Darkness/Clarity could be a benevolent mind controlling Rasputin’s remaining systems to give us an edge in the war against the Witness. It is his destiny.

[@thearnorianruby4681]

I've always thought about this. I'm surprised anyone else thought about it.

[@xXx_Regulus_xXx]

Ever since we knew the Vex were the final shape for the flower game I kinda figured this was the case. The Vex are the inevitable final form life takes if nothing like paracausality intervenes. Even if some species somewhere evolved differently or invented a different form for life to take, they're so infectious and relentlessly expansionist that they outcompete everything else.

[@suruxstrawde8322]

If there's anything I've learned from studying humanities past, it's that we'll probably never be able to all agree on one thing without fundamentally changing our nature as a species. Even if we ended up ascending into some cyborg alien like form like the vex, there'd be one last defector group who'd choose not to follow due to their irrational nature. I like to call those groups "retrohumanists", but I prefer to assume we'll end up controlling our own biology rather than merging with technology to become incomplete hybrids.

[@glitchyfox8706]

Perhaps vex and humans are both the apex of creatures in diffrent ways? With one abandoing their orignal form and trying to re obtain a link to darkness and light and humanity having the links but needing to be lead to their final form

[@robertnelson2728]

I almost always have the goblins wave at me right before they start shootin.

[@radiokillahz]

My character is an exo..... So is my characters dad is Clovis? Is he part vex?

[@hammelbreu2059]

I still stick to my Idea. When the race of the witness transferred all their consious minds to be one - aka the Witness - they´ve left sth behind. Their subconsiousness and bodies, stripped of all their memories but left with the subconsious will to survive. Left alone this evolved to the VEX Mindfluid

[@Shephard117]

I just need to know how none of the vanguard or anyone in the last city knew about Neomuna? How does that happen? This entire time "The Last City" wasn't the last city at all and the people of Neo were just thriving living their best lives. That is wild asf to me.

[@J-Vasa]

Tbh i thought this was canon until like a year ago

[@lewis18051]

What if radiolaria is the element that kickstarts the emergence of complex life from primordial ooze found on planets where life can evolve

[@raekwonchambers2297]

I had a theory… what if Clovis became the leader of the vex cuz they see him leading them into being the pinnacle of life n becoming the final shape or perhaps something even more? Maybe becoming the gardener and the winnower being the one true god. He would of made exos to a preface to see how he can integrate ppl into being the vex.

[@reamoinmcdonachadh9519]

But we know that Exxo's do NOT live forever, they need constant rebooting, hence the numbering at the end of an Exxo's name.

[@Drakith90]

Yes it was an attempt. A failed attempt but an attempt.

[@EYErisGames]

Then explain why no exos seem to have needed rebooting since the collapse or why Ada-1 seems to have never been rebooted. I think DRE was a lie.

[@DatboiZyion]

⁠@@EYErisGamesthere’s a reason as to why Ada-1 never needed to be rebooted, but I can’t remember what the reason is. I believe it may be the age at which she was turned into an exo, but I could be wrong

[@majesticmajestic7058]

​@DatboiZyion Yeah, I believe that she was still a child and lived majority of her childhood-life as an Exo.

[@kissushoto]

They're a paradox created vy the Ishtar Collective

[@ricardotolbert1797]

???? Hmmmmmm

[@majesticmajestic7058]

How did this paradox happen?

[@kissushoto]

@@majesticmajestic7058 we don't know yet, but at the end of the newest exotic mission, the vex have a room completely empty except for a logo of the IC made out of metal

[@Thewitness01-l4s]

Why the witness wanted that Clovis create the exo’s can someone explain if you know

[@levicarpenter5509]

Maybe the vex are human augmentation taken to a extreme and the witness wanted to influence our d2 humanity to vex themselves but failed

[@majesticmajestic7058]

Probably the same reason it wanted the hive.

[@MrSpiritualDesire]

Vex remind me of cyberpunk 2077 .. Mankind wants imortality because of fear of the unkown and love for life..

[@P4551V3]

What if the final shape really is instrumentality from evangelion?

[@majesticmajestic7058]

Seems to be the case.

[@majesticmajestic7058]

Also, the Psions seem to practice this to a degree.

[@Nomadx83]

So it's a loop ?

[@thesplitking6340]

vex are crab of destiny. all become vex like all become crab, ALL HAIL CRAB

[@Bladeerunner_]

this is just evangelion buh

[@dudeydude77_clips]

If Vex are so advanced, why don’t Cyclops have legs?

[@MrEdsoncabrera]

very good

[@jacobottmer4950]

8:11 username be like

[@ARMCcoy15]

Destiny saved my ahh plenty of times

[@soggywater8939]

Because the Lore wasn't crazy enough

[@clovisbray2839]

😎

[@LoveTyl]

Yooo

[@Billabongbabalog]

Gonna really be disappointed if that's how this turns out. Shit is too on the nose. Very predictable.

[@Darkside_1994]

Please stoping bringing up Unveiling. The Season of the Deep cutscene clearly retconned it.

[@xenoo.o9092]

Second

[@vasilyzaytsev2223]

First