Destiny Steps Into Heated 1v4 Panel vs Right Wing Debaters

[@LastNightDestiny]

Destiny Gets Pressed For His Talk w/ Sam Harris And Trump's lawyer's Attorney ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnPZhqB3fcacY80

[@exiledhebrew1994]

Destiny pretending he cares about crimes; will Joe Biden helps Israel destroy international law 😂😂😂

[@aSSGoblin1488]

russians holding tim pools hair as hostage is a war crime

[@Urbanmember1]

Is it a war crime if it is consensual?

[@aSSGoblin1488]

@@Urbanmember1 it would be an act of homosexuality

[@chickenindanger844]

LOLOLOL

[@reasonablyargued9003]

He needs systemic reform. End the recession

[@austint1151]

​@@Urbanmember1 it's definitely not consensual. He removes the beanie for no one, ofc he'd go full RT if Putin has blackmail images of him without a hat

[@goodolarchie]

Imagine taking on not one, but four elite Gravy Seals at the same time.

[@NugKnights]

They have to join up like Voltron just to put together one coherent thought.

[@orangetaho4u207]

Feels Team Six, going tard. 😂

[@Nick-jx6ro]

@@goodolarchie Imagine supporting things like deligitimizing the judicial branch and not getting the floor absolutely wiped with you.

[@TobleroneCraft]

I bet these guys make grilled cheese at night.

[@OlYables]

@@orangetaho4u207 Meal Team Six lolll

[@murranji3705]

I love how conservatives hate the idea of holding people who have huge amounts of power to an ethical standard.

[@Michael-kp4bd]

They’re deeply uncreative AND need ideas for conspiracy theories to believe about the other side. Where are they going to get their ideas if Republicans aren’t already doing the thing they want to attribute to _The Demonrat Deep State_

[@REALmills]

Like not wanting people who have direct influence on capital markets to be able to invest in said capitol markets? Or social media platforms to decide what is or is not disinformation before a presidential election? Or parts of our own and other governments researching dangerous viruses and then lying about it when it's likely one got out and caused a worldwide pandemic and mass financial and physical health harm? I think all power should be held accountable. People just want to pick and choose which ones should be checked.

[@griffincontracting]

​@@REALmills

[@HeauxSliegherButtStuff]

​@griffincontracting yeah, the struggle was real with that one. Wtf

[@Azureflame20]

Correction - Conservatives only hate the idea of holding CONSERVATIVES with huge amounts of power to an ethical standard. To them, any Democrat must to be held to an even higher ethical standard twofold that of anybody in the conservative camp.

[@bartomiejanczont1339]

Guy giving a definition of a moron in the begining should have been thrown out right then and there

[@andrewvanderhoof2531]

He sucks so hard

[@TheMusicofthegods]

@bartomiejanczont1339 yup facts I knew he would for sure be the dumbest guy and sure enough he was

[@efrainchaidez2722]

You could tell he had practiced his opening, a lot.

[@Kelvasisthebest]

That is probably the single most cringe moment of this debate.

[@gregoryhouse4728]

@@Kelvasisthebestyeah that or him saying “ skill issue” 17 times LMAO

[@Jojo-rm3nm]

"Youre not willing to abuse the legal system so your opponents never get a SC pick ever again? Skill issue" Conpletely shameless lol

[@LizStaples]

But they scream and cry about “stacking the court”. They don’t even know that FDR didn’t “threaten” to stack the court he just did it.

[@hunterlurvey698]

Not even 5 seconds later "BUT BUT STACKING THE COURTS IS GOING NUCLEAR AND WOULD DESTROY THE SYSTEM"

[@thisishappening7273]

“But also you’re bad if you do what we did”

[@DivkvanDyke6913]

@@thisishappening7273it’s “rules for thee but not for me”

[@Laihoistheman]

Imagine admitting out loud that politics is just a power game with no rules or decorum. He said the quiet part out loud.

[@ottz2506]

People who unironically think this should never be allowed close to power.

[@TheMusicofthegods]

I actually bursted out laughing when the guy said he was against brown v board. That's how dumb you have to be to think this Supreme Court is doing the right thing

[@TobleroneCraft]

And then they claim that this current bench is the best SCOTUS of all time…

[@MDoorpsy]

The idea that these decisions should have been made through law is fair on its own, the problem is that the reason these decisions don’t happen through law is that the senate is designed to favor conservatives. Like it took like 50 years to get the civil rights act passed because of southern dixiecrats abusing the fillibuster, and they say they support the senate being that way.

[@njm2699]

Idk why Destiny didn’t push him on that. Like that probably would’ve been such an easy dunk

[@YangBalanceYin]

I saw someone say that he was a Charlottesville rioter so...

[@JeronimoStilton14]

@@njm2699because easy dunks are useless. The guys argument was incoherent but CONSISTENT and so destiny backed off because consistency is better than them arguing shit they don’t believe in

[@pillboxstyx]

I wish we had a poll from like 2010 asking Americans "is the US President immune from any crimes they commit?" I just feel like the average American would have never thought this was the case; I've never for a moment in my adult life thought the president had a pass to be a criminal.

[@shanecorrigan8524]

Little kid thought Fr

[@LizStaples]

I feel like easy thing to ask them is if this was “origionalist” then why wasn’t such a ruling made to protect Nixon?

[@lukasthedark8478]

Dude, I remember specifically asking my elementary school teacher "could the president pardon themselves?" And they responded with "nobody is above the law"

[@declaninc]

Maybe not any crime, but putting some documents in the wrong binder I think most would agree is a ridiculous excuse to go to trial over, especially in an election year.

[@lukasthedark8478]

@@declaninc is that what you think trump did

[@timreyes2179]

What is the threat? A succulent Chinese meal?

[@Jordan123151]

Aaaaahhh yes... I see that you know your judo well

[@realmcafee]

Muslims installing a parallel culture during 10 years in your country that will not go away and is going to swallow your democratic values as soon as they outnumber you. if you dont like christians, then you are going to have so much fun with muslims.

[@nickkarrick]

Dont touch my penis!

[@twilyte9557]

This is comminism, manifest

[@realmcafee]

muslims and a parallel culture that is going to swallow your democratic values.

[@akyra231]

Top left guy is everybody's slightly annoying dad or uncle who goes "If they'd let me into politics, I'd have the entire system fixed in a year" at the dinner table. Just very confident despite not actually knowing a lot. Also, Whick would see the end of democracy and the instatement of the Imperial Trump regime, and he'd still be like "Right but if we resist this transfer of powers to the executive somehow, aren't we being just as bad as they are? We should just wait until our lord the emperor gives us a new election. I'm sure it'll happen eventually." He loves himself some principled idealism at the cost of the rights of people that aren't him.

[@MatthewPendleton-kh3vj]

It seems like he knows quite a lot. But he does kinda seem like that kind of uncle, I totally agree.

[@SaintsVictory]

It’s crazy that these people are lawyers. Makes me feel like I can be a lawyer because it clearly doesn’t take much intelligence.

[@brandonblevins7870]

Correct plus the law isn't written well 😭

[@BanditTools]

Can you memorize and recall things? Then congrats you’re half way to becoming a lawyer.

[@HistoricaHungarica]

inb4 pisco

[@Icculu5]

I grew up with someone who's a lawyer. One of the most useless people you'll ever meet.

[@thepoorgamou7974]

Gibs: *opens with the definition of "Moron"* Also Gibs *acts out how to be a "Moron"*

[@reddillon8425]

Whick "We should be the adults" Doing what Whick suggests is NOT being the adult, it's being the pill addicted wine mom who quietly cleans up after her toddler who just threw a tantrum and threw his glass of orange juice on the kitchen floor. There needs to be some level of discipline applied, you can't just continuously allow conservatives to get away with constant norm breaking and never push back on it, they will never stop if you do that.

[@cat_and_cabbage4662]

Sorry, how do wine or pills have relevance here?

[@solarblitz4524]

​@@cat_and_cabbage4662OP is referencing a specific stereotype

[@TheTomasina]

@@cat_and_cabbage4662 He's just popping metaphorical xanys and saying to himself: "Just as long as we're chill and civil it will all be okay"

[@cat_and_cabbage4662]

@@solarblitz4524 strange, I’d imagine that type of person would simply leave the mess altogether and just yell at the kid, but idk

[@solarblitz4524]

@cat_and_cabbage4662 Not usually, they're suuuper conflict avoidant so the use of alcohol and prescriptions is to numb all stressors and ignore chaos.

[@garywebb2432]

Ahhh yes the weekly 1vs.Everyone debates

[@aSSGoblin1488]

one of these guys got lost on his commute to mcdonals and ended up here😢

[@stephsnotfluffy]

I kinda love it

[@Narcissistic_Penguin]

Just like mama used to make

[@highdesertbiker]

does anyone else skip ahead to when Destiny gets enraged in the debates? I love when he goes off on people

[@MasterKombatBro]

Prefer calling it D v E

[@frankjiang1857]

Man, this whole conversation shows why people hate lawyers. Especially that Lactoid guy being such a Trump-crony.

[@blktarockstar818]

Conservative lawyers show over and over that they have no moral framework. They will always find a way to juke and jive about obvious ish

[@talonsilverhawk5763]

You do realize that lactoid is a libertarian and usually votes libertarian

[@garmatey3816]

I feel like crying about whataboutism is completely invalid when we're literally deciding between two people. Like you just dont get to say everyone should be very concerned about a Harris admin b/c of the flippant way Kamala talks about court packing while ignoring how "flippant" Trump is about so many norms, including LITERALLY SUSPENDING THE CONSTITUTION. "Whataboutism" here seems more than valid....

[@AspiringDevil]

Whataboutism like bad faith is unfortunately mainly used as a buzzword to throw out in hopes the audience will be distracted.

[@LukiPWN]

holy shit, tim pool, an russian asset? who would've known lol :'D

[@hartyewh1]

The level of surprise and relief of finding out are strangely reversely correlated.

[@Myblacknadz]

lefties and russia russia russia. just as bad as magas

[@Nick-jx6ro]

Everybody is a "Russian asset" to you cultists.

[@aSSGoblin1488]

the russians are holding his full head of hair hostage. thats why he is doing their bidding

[@aSSGoblin1488]

​@@Nick-jx6rorussians holding tim pools hair as hostage is a war crime

[@BastionsRandomChill]

I love how conservatives tell on themselves. "Are you saying lying to an AG is part of the Presidents powers?" "No, talking to him is." They make it so obvious they don't care about actual crimes being committed because it's their guy.

[@OlYables]

That's the brick wall that Destiny runs into so often with these guys. It's a question of ethical prioritization. When Destiny exposes a pattern of blatantly unethical and illegal actions on the conservative side, what they really want to say is "so what? We don't care about that. It's not as big a deal as you think," etc. Because they don't place the same amount of value in the criminal malfeasance of Trump and his cronies. It means that even getting these guys to admit that something happened or didn't happen ultimately doesn't matter and it will not move the needle for them on what is ethically acceptable.

[@lootangshellhouse2506]

Thats becuase left is playi g dirty didnt Zuckerberg just release a letter showing how then dems censored the right ​@OlYables

[@Moped_Mike]

How does that quote means they don’t care? He answered the question…

[@BastionsRandomChill]

@@Moped_Mike If someone asks you a question and your reflex isn't to answer it but to backup to a foundational position, you're dodging the question. It should of been easy to say "No, talking to the AG about faking election information isn't part of the Presidential role" but instead he deflects to "Talking to the AG is!" Do you not see this?

[@Moped_Mike]

that wasn’t stated in anyway in OP, you obviously meant the content that of the quote was the issue. If not you made no effort to give any context to you being upset they are answering a question with another question. In fact your sentence after shows that wasn’t your issue. Nice job trying to retcon your post, but I can still read it now and see that wasn’t your point, at least edit it before you try to lie lol

[@guyfromdubai]

That guy in the top middle, hes what people suggest destiny sounds like when destiny speaks quickly. The difference is you can understand every single word Destiny says, but this other guy sounds like hes had a few too many and is slurring his speech, making it impossible to understand

[@vanessa4truth297]

Gibbs is known to be drunk quite often so you’re right on the assumption he’s had a few too many

[@Stratocaster42]

I know videos like this are bad for my mental health, but it's so worth it

[@BestMeme2031]

Same here brother/sister, same here. . 😂

[@Majorwindy]

The stupidity on display in this debate makes me audibly groan. That’s rare.

[@christopherallen9476]

🎯

[@osvelit]

they're bad for your mental health?? what the hell

[@christopherallen9476]

@@osvelit I guess you have the cognitive bandwidth to listen to poorly constructed arguments, made in bad faith, without getting frustrated with their Dunning Kruger Confidence

[@bencarter3920]

Man, the constitution really dropped the ball with the Supreme Court

[@metrodite3089]

I think Destiny and Pisco did their best countering the “Biden in 1992” talking point, but they were still too charitable towards the conservatives on this panel. it was incredibly frustrating hearing no one clarify the fact that Biden never said the SCOTUS nomination had to occur under the next administration. in contrast, that was McConnell’s *explicit* goal. Republicans were only interested in blocking as many nominations as possible during Obama’s tenure, and they opened the floodgates because of it. blame Newt Gingrich or whoever the fuck, it’s simply unacceptable.

[@minkleymcmoo5248]

3 republican justices were rejected by congress during bushes reign. Sounds different context to obamas situation.

[@Nick-jx6ro]

@@metrodite3089 Only one of the candidates even got elected much less ran in a primary election. You're crying about the Supreme Court as if an installed "leader" didn't get away with a corrupt nomination on the very last confirmation to the court.

[@jameszoeller1517]

More over, Biden didn't establish any precedent. If anything it solidly established that congress shouldn't attempt to stall a nominee! Plus, 1992? That's 32 years ago. Polticians grow over time and its only taken a fireebrand like AOC less than a decade to mellow out into a liberal.

[@exiledhebrew1994]

Destiny pretending he cares about crimes; will Joe Biden helps Israel destroy international law 😂😂😂

[@JustOccultism]

What an incredibly smooth brained comment 🤣​@@exiledhebrew1994

[@nicememes7570]

Not to mention that Trump had a pick for Supreme Court in like the last few months of his presidency and the Republicans rushed to fill it versus oh, we can’t let Obama have a pic during his last whole year

[@garythecyclingnerd6219]

RGB’s pride cost the country so much.

[@Demosde.ivergos]

They cover the entire spectrum of conservative ascetics

[@starhawks1]

That's one way to spell aesthetics

[@Stratocaster42]

Fat white guy with goatee, fat white guy with gross beard, chubby white guy with flag in background and Shredder cosplayer - Republicans perfectly represented :)

[@lighting7508]

Holy spelling 💀

[@isaiah6032]

Esthetician

[@sashbandit]

​@starhawks1 ascetics: a person who practices severe self-discipline and abstention. Nah, it fits here

[@AFR0PR1NC3]

Lactoid claims not to be a part of this right vs left partisanship, but his KZbin channel description says “We foster a coalition of diverse ideologies aimed at defending against the rise of leftist ideologies.”

[@travisalexphoto]

According to them, that's being an enlightened centrist

[@talonsilverhawk5763]

He's a libertarian we vote right when the left is off their rocker

[@princequestly2218]

It’s damn near impossible to have a conversation with someone when they refuse to acknowledge facts or reality.

[@cmp6]

The guy in the upper middle is the very definition of a low information voter.

[@lootangshellhouse2506]

Democrats are low info voter trump orange man bad if you don't vote for me your not black vote for me because I'm a woman.........😮

[@nfmosphotos4624]

His vocabulary consisted of like 10 words.

[@Meatwad650]

If you don’t like court packing, Lactoid, maybe you shouldn’t have already done it?

[@mizel101]

Its actually emotionally draining to listen to these people whatabout

[@mydadspulloutgametrash]

My lullaby is the sound of Destiny shouting at people in debates no pause

[@Matt-fr2rh]

dont forget listening at 1.5x speed

[@AFR0PR1NC3]

Why would you need immunity to do perform legal acts? No one is prosecuting Trump for talking to his DOJ; they are prosecuting him for telling his DOJ to commit crimes.

[@arwinsingh8256]

steven is a guys name

[@PsychorGames]

REAL

[@mememan9890]

hot take

[@davidcox1472]

Yes officer, this one right here.

[@Stratocaster42]

Transphobic comment

[@entropy404]

Steve is minecraft

[@AspiringDevil]

The worst I've seen Whick he was so checked out or lost that he literally took the stance of no matter how many times Republicans violate rules & norms you can never hold them accountable because that would be escalation. I don't think that's his actual position mind you just that those are what his words said. I do appreciate Gibs giving the game away.

[@kidusgetachew9215]

man I just got to say the middle top big belly individual was reducing the IQ points each time he took a breath of air

[@Stable_Genius]

No kidding. He's just a blob on my screen. He added nothing

[@kidusgetachew9215]

@@Stable_Genius 🤣🤣 Thank God I am not alone in this

[@Stable_Genius]

@@kidusgetachew9215 Well, he did provide the common MAGAt talking points so...yeah, added nothing.

[@ivanm970]

I wonder what these right wingers would be saying if the courts were letting, Medicare for all, student loan forgiveness, gun/civil rights reform, stand how they would be talking??

[@DevenThaDude-xb2tm]

It’s crazy that these people can take a quote from 30 years ago and act like he is taking action on it right now, but Trump saying things 4 years ago is impossible for action to be taken on.

[@nefarious_prod]

I love how much they were bringing up Biden mentioning the Thurmond rule in 1992 and equating it to McConnell not holding a vote on garland. Meanwhile they conveniently ignore how republicans were threatening the nuclear option in 2005 while malding over Harry Reid using it in 2013

[@MakkiLatte]

Man, Tectone fell off the deep end

[@MrYelly]

Who?

[@gearnblanston6205]

The whole Garland issue occurred because the writers of the Constitution dropped the ball on timely action. Madison, then the Secretary of State created the pocket veto (simply not signing papers or laws) because the Constitution did not specify a time frame in which he had to act.

[@cbsmith-fit]

It occurred because the founders assumed everyone would act in good faith

[@killzone866]

@@cbsmith-fit yeah they thought people would country over party and oh boy that backfired.

[@billballinger5622]

Thats an interesting retelling of history

[@funa2865]

A libertarian leaning towards trump saying they aren't conservative is like saying a communist isn't left wing.

[@sjsharks2106]

That is one of the most uneducated responses i've ever heard😅

[@BigGovernment1984]

Ah, yes, Russia, China, and North Korea, commonly all known for their liberalism

[@P.Z.E.R.O]

This “outplayed” guy is a complete waste of space

[@iampandatye]

A waste of a LOT of space

[@BouncinBrandon]

Fuck yes i know exactly what im doing tomorrow morning lmao, ill be back

[@pigilet9398]

lmfaoo i was just thinking the same thing

[@kidusgetachew9215]

You better watch and remember whenever supreme court is mentioned you remember Justice Clarence's belly.

[@TobleroneCraft]

That’s exactly what I’ve been doing. Had this on all morning at work 😅

[@luisgonzaga9286]

I don't trust random patterns, but I have to say that WhickTV only interrupted the "talk" to help republicans EVERY SINGLE DAMN TIME, it isn't even funny.

[@Greatestofalltime7219]

When people start fights they don’t get to also dictate the terms of the fight.

[@MrJackBlackCat]

Is it just me, or is Whick getting more annoying and more unhinged?

[@jorpo3297]

Imo we might be moving farther away from whick's view, which is to keep appeasing Republicans to "keep the peace" and "being better /more responsible than the republicans"

[@AspiringDevil]

Unfortunately yes he desperately wants to believe the conservatives feelings are valid & we have to baby them.

[@LizStaples]

Whick is constantly trying to grasp at Civility politics and appease unhinged Republicans who hold up Trump as infallible god king.

[@RivetCityRamsey]

​@AspiringDevil In fairness, Destiny and his fans also believed this. Given time, he may catch up.

[@dalodulo1373]

​@jorpo3297 I would usually be on whicks side of the argument. At least on the "be better" side. But, much like a sport, it only works if there is an authority who will call out a side when they cheat and punish them for doing so.

[@gmanthewinner]

"I don't think what they did was ethical or good." "Then are you ok with fixing it?" "Hell no, finding a fair solution would be just as bad!"

[@BritishBulldog78]

Worst shredder cosplay ever

[@Stratocaster42]

I thought he was trying to do Sub Zero or something

[@BritishBulldog78]

@@Stratocaster42 His brain was doing the Sub Zero cosplay

[@bazooka712]

Your grammar is exceptionally sceptic. Deceptively so.

[@HistoricaHungarica]

Isn't he supposed to be "Qorantos on ambien"?

[@BigGovernment1984]

TMNT is the best anime ever

[@sniperboom1202]

Tldr: All the conservatives go through mental gymnastics that would win the gold.

[@theZEEZ]

Justify the position of “I think this is bad, but now I advocate for doing it” and explain how that’s not mental gymnastics…

[@richmondyayarea]

So the usual?

[@sniperboom1202]

@@theZEEZ what? What are you talking about all of the 4 conservatives just denied reality and were completely fine with the breaking of norms when they are in charge WITH examples such as not giving Obama a supreme Court pick during his last year as president but Trump got to appoint 1 a WEEK before the election. Yeah no, the republicans have been pushing this BS for YEARS now they reap what they sow.

[@willster2967]

@@theZEEZ "I think killing is bad but I advocate for self defense" That logic isn't as insane as you think it is when you take into account the concept of context. The context of a situation may demand the undertaking of what may be considered "bad" actions. "I don't like jailing my political opponents, but when my political opponents attempt a coup of the government I think they should be jailed." This logic is far from as flawed as you've painted it out to be in your simplistic phrasing. Obviously in this case the context is far more complicated and harder to articulate as simply but it is not inherently flawed like you make it out to be (And before you jump the gun I don't know that I even entirely agree with destiny on his solution but he's absolutely correct about the problem. Just figure you should know my stance before you respond with presumptions)

[@bbqchezit]

The conservatives trying to thread the needle of "this immunity ruling was right" and "what immunity?" is hilarious, if tragic

[@billballinger5622]

It really isn't immunity in the sense that the President is immune to all crime. As usual Destiny misunderstands and blows things outta proportion

[@shanecorrigan8524]

@@billballinger5622it is immunity in the sense that a willfully malicious president could commit crimes with impunity tho

[@bbqchezit]

@billballinger5622 he's immune to any crime if he can claim a core power is implicated. It's a fig leaf. The presumptive immunity for everything else is icing on the cake.

[@billballinger5622]

@@shanecorrigan8524 absolutely not. Read about it or listen to a legal expert explain. Destiny is 100 percent wrong and deliberately misunderstanding

[@billballinger5622]

@@bbqchezit absolutely incorrect. Again get your info from someone who doesn't have an adderall addiction

[@MagneVikjord]

It’s useless to talk to these people. The only principle they have is that anything is ok as long as it’s their team. This 100% convinced me that court packing is the only right move

[@Whick-TV]

As long as its your team doing it, of course.

[@millennialmongoose3392]

Damn straight ​@@Whick-TV

[@patmacrotch5611]

Packing the courts is not “changing the rules”. If the GOP is going to use fringe legal tactics to maintain a majority then Dems using the same to pack the court is not “changing the rules” it’s gaming politics just like he claimed the GOP does.

[@danielsage19]

Republicans: you mad we outplayed you 😏 Destiny: ok what if we do the same? Republicans: noooooo you can’t do that!! It’s unconstitutional!!!!!

[@sjp2649]

Admiral Gibbs should never be invited back to these types of debates

[@theluchakabuto5206]

Being from Wisconsin and having a pet peeve about annoying drunk people, I can’t listen to this top middle guy for 3 hours.😂 Usually when people show up Drunk to a panel like CTV is takes a minute to fire them up, but our obese friend here came right out the gate with it

[@IRepko]

1:10:40 that guy was so slimy. He could see that Wick was super self conscious about the choice to bring in Pisco, so he started making little comments to make Wick shit down totally reasonable questions simply because he’s been asked them before.

[@a_kazakis]

Yeah he was so spineless. When ever a hard question was asked he started crying to the moderator.

[@AspiringDevil]

Yeah unfortunately they played Wick like a fiddle he refused to ever make the conservatives answer anything.

[@bryankylob4720]

Thank god we had Gibbs there, i almost forgot all the republican talking points

[@nathantripathy]

Dude in the bottom left is basically disqualified if all of his opinions are based on a cavalcade of opinion based issues. He may even be right, but his opinion on this issue is a literal technicality.

[@Sunnywastakentoo]

I can't believe Destiny thinks the demand for cigarettes is elastic.

[@AyubuKK]

I hope a part 2 of this panel happens soon. It got so heated and entertaining.

[@Nick-jx6ro]

@@AyubuKK originalism = "mental gymnasium" 😂😂

[@vanessa4truth297]

Agreed. Possibly the best panel Whick has ever hosted. Really hope he does part 2 in the near future

[@poppygloria3819]

Why is this not in main channel?

[@olknoxlo]

I’ve no idea. Maybe time?

[@sepulcher8263]

There might be a longer video later?

[@MisterS.]

'Cause this is sloppy slop 😜

[@PsychorGames]

August wants us to starve.

[@Smash_ter]

Spreading stuff to different channels help spread his name a bit

[@dreamshakejunya]

The packing the court argument is especially frustrating because we didn’t start with 9 justices and the judiciary didn’t implode when they have previously expanded.

[@0ktk]

1:46:20-1:48:51 Excellent exchange of dialogue between Whick and Destiny. Love to see two very logically sound arguments oppose one another back and forth like this. Bravo.

[@ericwall2355]

4vs1 rightwinger debate? *reaches for the moisturizer, 3 BIG pumps, unzip* Lets go.

[@aSSGoblin1488]

one of these guys got lost on his commute to mcdonalds and ended up here

[@Nick-jx6ro]

@@aSSGoblin1488 Is it the blue haired one who lost his wife along the way?

[@michealjaymurphy]

The. Pisco ruined it

[@Exter98]

​@@Nick-jx6roI don't see anyone with blue hair. But I do see a blue shirt trumpy with a fat dumpy. Tbh that's like 50% of trumpies so nvm me

[@Victor-gz8ml]

​@@michealjaymurphylet him piss in conservatives

[@greatesthits8293]

Dude saying "you're not my interlocutor" killed me. Don't think he knows what that word means.

[@mattvalcarc]

that dude in the top middle is adding absolutely nothing to this conversation

[@jamespeterson7125]

In my reading of the conversation, the conservatives are not able to distinguish the difference between immunity and innocence. Just like everyone else, even if you are innocent of a crime, you have to demonstrate that in the courts. And the president already had protections and safeguards from frivolous litigation. Between executive privilege, the Federal Torts Claims Act (which substitutes the federal government for lawsuits against civil servants), the lack of ability to compel to testify for the executive and immediate advisors, not to mention the same kinds of pre-trial motions for dismissal that are available to everyone. The president already had more than adequate protection to perform his duties without the immunity ruling. edit: fixed misspelling of "Torts"

[@Masshystericz]

Imagine in another life destiny could of been a lawyers name.

[@IchHalteDichInDerDunkelheit]

I wasn't aware that all you had to do is have a pulse to become a lawyer

[@politicaljoe7788]

We're just going to gloss over the fact that this conservative supreme court dropped everything to hear Colorado case to take him off the primary ballot, but they literally wasted months to hear Trump's immunity case and then months to come to their BS decision?? I suppose that's pretty originalist according to republicans...

[@dreamshakejunya]

1:49:49 Whick “That hasn’t happened” Republicans literally broke the norm. Pretended to set a new norm… Then immediately violated that same norm they set with Barrett _in the same presidential election_ This is incredibly bad faith.

[@Anans1_Spyd3r]

An Ivy League Professor had the absolute best idea to reform the SCOTUS. Leave a majority of seats vacant and for each case being reviewed they are filled by a case by case lottery from a pool of Federal Judges. You can't control if the case you bring will be majority Dem or Repub nominated judges. The lottery winners may even act more neutral because they may be vetted later for a permanent seat, and it can be thrown back in their faces if they attempt to pull a partisan stunt.

[@LizStaples]

Interesting kinda like Jury Duty but make it High Court Judges.

[@LizStaples]

@botchedoperations3485 These “originalist” arguments are bunk, the Supreme Court is supposed to interpret the constitution for benefit of the people. If they serve paper before people they have no use and should be abolished.

[@Anans1_Spyd3r]

@botchedoperations3485 The issue is not new if you follow the history. William Rehnquist, who engaged in voter intimidation of Black Americans, strongly defended segregation during his early up and coming career and disdained almost every civil rights landmark case, was made The Cheif Justice of the Supreme Court. Castle Rock vs. Gonzalez, where you can't sue the police for gross and extreme negligence. A woman called the police several times about her ex-husband, who violated a restraining order and kidnapped her children. She even went to police station to beg for help, and the officer on duty ignored her and went for lunch. Clarence Thomas defended a Texas AG who made it policy for his assistants to bar any person of color from a jury and even called them slurs in his policy guide. This is just the first time people started paying attention.

[@trololkhil9868]

I think whick doesn't understand that blocking lower court appointments is actually way worse than supreme court appointments. You won't need to get a positive supreme court answer if the lower courts are already in your favour.

[@SmokyVols]

“OK, WAITWAITWAIT - WAITWAITWAIT” for 4 hours

[@hoboryan3455]

This is actually the main channel bc this is the fire content.

[@xEnder515]

Its getting pretty late and i already used my allotted time today to absorb regarded republican brainrot so ill come back to this in the morning.

[@YouveGotRyan]

Love how wick saved gibbs' ass every time Gibbs said something stupid (which was every time he opened his mouth)

[@mrfel4851]

i love how you can easily argue taht joe biden wanted to keep the court nomination out of the election season and then after the election is over still have that current president pick the candidate but that never dawned on anyone

[@HimothyOHooligan]

Why is Gibs even there? Everything out of his mouth was just idiotic posturing. He added nothing.

[@darkanice7]

The guy with the security and strength flag is completely pointless...

[@mutedmutiny9542]

15:15 this is a false equivalency - destiny isn’t talking about things like the Bork nomination, where they refused to hear a specific nominee - he’s talking about them refusing to hear ANY nominee just because it’s being made by a president who’s in the opposing party. That is unique and never happened until Mitch McConnell in 2015 after Scalia died, so this guy talking here is an idiot that doesn’t know what he’s talking about, or he’s not an idiot and he’s cleverly trying to “both sides” the issue with something that isn’t really that close.

[@Rollerrot]

The man that argued in principles the entire debate, is going to vote for Trump. But theyre not in the conservative party. 😂😂😂

[@MalicetheOmega]

"why don't you answer it with a backbone" is gonna be my new clapback on hesitancy

[@dcgamer1027]

First of all 1:46:20 we all can agree now that stabbing kids is wrong, and lucky for us we live in a society with institutions that will intervene on our behalf to stop a kid stabber. But you go back far enough and that is exactly what we did, eye for an eye. The simplest way to make someone understand how what they did made you feel is to do it back to them, to send a warning to them if they should try and do it again. This was our morality because this works, because this is effective. We don't do it anymore because it causes unnecessary harm and further greviousences, because we have better alternatives. 1:47:39 In the soccer analogy if one team cheats should the other team ignore it and fight on 1-0 or should they cheat to even the score. Your concern is that if they cheat it ruins the game because now both sides trade cheating. But that's not how it works. If one team cheats first and then the other team cheats to even the score, neither team is disadvantaged, neither team is morally harmed because the first harm was addressed. For the cheating to continue a new first case must occur. This is the real optimal game theory play. You even the score, and then you go back to playing fair. If one team cheats and there is no other recourse, then you must even the odds and then go back to playing fair or they will win as far as the game theory operates with simulating tit for tat. I truly appreciate the concern about a race to the bottom, but that only happens if the side that cheats first cheats again, or if you choose to "preemptively" cheat again. If they are willing to cheat unprovoked why do they need a justification to cheat at all? They don't need a justification, which is why you do not need to fear giving them one, you only need to fear being wrong about them and closing the door to good faith actors. The reason mercy and forgiveness is a virtues is because it allows good faith actors to reconcile and work together. This cannot be done with bad-faith actors. Going back to the stabbing thing if the Democrats offer an alternative solution to resolving greviouses and it is rejected with no alternative, which I remind you was the preset condition to trigger court packing as stated by Destiny and Pisco(i think pisco), if the alternative resolution is rejected then what other choice is available but a return to the tit for tat philosophy. Morality is a luxury for the powerful and power takes many different forms. If they refuse to play fair, to play by the rules, then the rules no longer serve their purpose of preventing foul play and only serve as a rope tieing your hands behind your back. Maybe we are so much better than them that like an anime protag we can win with that constraint, but when the stakes are high I for one always got annoyed at Goku risking the fate of the world on honorable death matches. I do apprcait which as a moderator, but I think he doesn't fully understand the optimal tit for tat strategy and why it is sound, at least he did not demonstrate that understanding in this stream. Veritasium did a great video about it, I'd encourage people to watch it or watch it again if you've already seen it.

[@AspiringDevil]

True also they already said several times at that point in the conversation they would oppose any other means of punishing the Republicans or remedying the transgression. At that point eye for an eye is all that's left.

[@How2Adult]

Why was Gibbs a part of this? He has zero creditibility

[@Spencerburner]

"le' centrist" Lactoid

[@bransin]

Lmao I love how that one guys opening statement is “I don’t know about the law. Here’s an ad hominem attack”

[@Scott100W]

Pisco always does more harm for his own side than good, I'm convinced he's a double agent at this point.

[@turkeypudding1]

Why is it always 5v 1 when it comes to right vs left.

[@chrisdistant9040]

Less time for destiny to talk only weakens the left’s side of the debate 😉

[@HistoricaHungarica]

Who's the lefty here?

[@RivetCityRamsey]

The conservatives wouldn't show up otherwise.

[@DavidSmith-wp6wx]

Anyone who actually says or uses the phrase "participation trophy" should be dismissed outright. It's such a douchbag dad thing to say.

[@c1d342]

I have a problem with brown vs board of education. The self ousting is actually wild 😂 Who tf are these clowns?! Half an hour in and i dont know how far I can get.

[@CarpeDonnelly]

45:00 “it’s at least 6-3 instead of 25-3 which is worse” In hockey, if you are down by a goal you have option to pull the goalie for an extra attacker to try and score. Typically, though, the other team gets an empty net goal. So the team can sometimes turn a one goal lead into a 3 goal lead because of two empty net goals. There is literally no difference between the losses, they count the same.

[@rocketrelm1125]

Technically there is a difference, because with a 6 - 3 there are some justices still with some principles and we haven't *literally* installed Trump as dictator. If the courts were 25-3 in republicans favor? The unhinged behavior would be so much worse (and it's already REALLY bad right now).

[@jazzmaniac821]

@lastnightdestiny could the senate simply make a law that says there shall be an equal number of justices and circuit courts? Currently, there are 13 circuit Courts. Simply add 5 to the Supreme Court, and you're done.

[@vg4171]

This why lawyers are some of the slimiest people on earth

[@grandgibbon2071]

It's funny the guy saying why didn't trump just not pay his bills. My guy Trump constantly didn't and doesn't pay his deals.

[@lanreolajumoke8186]

Destiny is arguing with a bunch of whire supremacists pretending to be serious human beings and not psychopathic monsters.

[@philkayo3905]

Biden's quotes seem to say "after the election" not "after they take office.... No?

[@burnbird16]

No shot Zetsui is an actual lawyer, by the way. He's dancing on both sides of this entire conversation to insert himself in the conversation. Also, I see 5 blacklistables on my screen.

[@DeusEx_Machina]

Dude with the blue Hawaiian shirt had the most be brain dead arguments/tall talking points

[@zakazan8561]

whick and gibbs consistently lowered the level of the conversation so much during this, good god