Destroyers v Battleships in Total Darkness - Jutland Night Battle Documentary

[@LegioXIII-SPQR]

Those engagement distances were absolutely insane - basically the naval equivalent of knife fighting range

[@alexsis1778]

If you want to check out another interesting night time knife fight battle look up the WW2 Battle of Cape Matapan. After the battle the heavy cruiser Pola was dead in the water and trying to be rescued by her two sisters Zara and Flume. 3 british battle ships and the carrier Formidable closed to within 3,800 yards before opening fire. Being 3rd in the battle line of 4, Formidable received the order to open fire with her 4.5 inch guns for one salvo before someone realized they had just included a carrier in a point blank gun battle line with battleships and ordered her to turn away and fall out of line. Only time a carrier intentionally closed to gun range and took part in a battle line. All 3 Italian cruisers were wiped out in a matter of only a few minutes with reports of multiple turrets being physically thrown into the air. Its also the only time an entire class of ship was wiped out in a single engagement.

[@Creamypie626]

If you want a real knife fight battle, might I suggest looking into the 1st and 2nd Naval battle of Guadalcanal? If you want a battle where ships are fighting in the middle of each other's fleet then this is a good chaotic one.

[@ophirbactrius8285]

Or on the other terms, seems like a bayonet hand to hand combat but in naval version.

[@DaveSCameron]

Shout yes, hardly imaginable let alone managing to hit one! 😂

[@dapppqp]

Nassau didn't just get into the naval equivalent of knife fighting range, it literally got into knife fighting range!

[@Rationalific]

This was so frustrating... So many ships were like, "Hey, you guys are on our side, right?" and then the response is just "BOOM!". Imagine being a sailor and going through so much training only to have your ship signal its location to the enemy and get immediately blown up without being able to do anything.

[@Pozi_Drive]

It is evolution: survival of the one that responds the quickest. In 1914 the british land forces were VERY upset about the german soldiers not wearing bright blue, yellow or red uniforms (like they did) but greyish green that was very hard to spot while in the field. The brits and the frogs found it cheating....

[@kingmuddy5898]

"Do you see any torpedo boats?"

[@kingbookser]

@@kingmuddy5898 BY DENMARK?

[@mattrogersftw]

"Throws a pair of binoculars"

[@kingbookser]

@@mattrogersftw "Ah fuck I didn't train them"

[@bubbles190]

Being lost at sea in the dark, watching everybody sail away is beyond my comprehension.

[@bubbles190]

@@asdf2593 F'kin way she goes he says

[@cian2741]

@@asdf2593 What do you mean the way she fucking goes, we had $50 for strippers and you spent it on fruities Ray?!?

[@robert48044]

Shit like that is why I chose the Army

[@Pozi_Drive]

They saw nothing. It was dark. There was no light on the ships. Perhaps the sounds of engines.

[@robert48044]

@@Pozi_Drive that's not better, just how sharks like it

[@GerardMenvussa]

If it were not for the tragic loss of life, some parts of this battle could be nearly comical. 9:04 The 3 destroyers colliding, evacuating to one another 12:15 The commander unknowingly taking his conga line of destroyers across the line of enemy battleships, not realizing how many boats were following him If this were a movie, I would probably criticizing the writers for coming up with silly gags in the middle of battle :o

[@MXB2001]

Truth is stranger than fiction.

[@Zergling.]

Dont forget too: 8:13 A battleship raming a destroyer and point blank shooting it, blowing its superstructure, and the destroyer survived. 10:49 The weird moment a british cruiser, the black prince, believing it was seeing the british fleet did put herself along side the fleet and sail with them only to find out where german, geting obliterated.

[@bogdangabrielonete3467]

Wait till you hear of the Russian 2nd Pacific Squadron. Ooooooh boy, was that a floating sh*t show. Drachinifel did a fantastic 2 parts video of them. Highly recommend

[@GerardMenvussa]

@@Zergling. "A battleship raming a destroyer and point blank shooting it, blowing its superstructure, and the destroyer survived" Plot armour!!! 😡 Joke aside, this must have been a major brown-pants situation for every one involved.

[@Zergling.]

@@GerardMenvussa HAHAH want to know how the ears of the sailors in the destroyer are still intact after getting blasted by battleship guns at that close range. "major brown-pants situation for every one involved." very true

[@cacildeasa]

British: * flashes light * Germans: * F L A S H E S L I G H T S *

[@trauko1388]

More like GUNflashes...

[@Murmanskkk]

"You think a destroyer can't do a battleships job? Let me prove you wrong." *gets absolutely obliterated*

[@Phantom-bh5ru]

Fr those destroyers got slaughtered

[@hedgehog3180]

One war too early to try to face a battleship with a destroyer.

[@leonnunhofer3453]

Fr, especially if you look at WW2 battleships. Destroyers are nice to be presice, f.e. to destroy a building on an island from far away. Battleships have to come closer, and they are good the destroy... the whole island with a few salvos. Would be nice to bring the huge guns back for cheap fire support. Sometimes you can get close to the target, around 40km, and modern, big guns for sure could strike at 60km or 70km. If it's just a single turret with long barrel, it can be close to 100km. Make it 350mm or larger, so 14 inches or more, and you have the same punsh per shell like a cruise missile, or more, for a far smaller price. Sometimes you need to suppress enemies fire, and I think, you don't need real battleships with armor, you make them battlecruisers, so they are cheaper. You give them 1 turret with 2 or 3 guns or 2 with 2, with very long barrels, like some german WW2 guns. There was a german WW2 gun with 21cm and 115km range. Schwerer Gustav had close to 60km with 80cm. Imo you could make less turrets with longer guns with longer range, not 80cm, but maybe 45cm or 50cm, to have more firepower then cruise missiles, or you make more turrets, like 5 with 3 or 4 guns each, with something like 25cm, that can fire at a higher rate, and you have high range gliding shells, so you can suppress artillery. I just think, there should be a cheaper option to cruise missiles if you need to strike a huge area, and the single 140mm or 150mm naval guns ships have today are tiny, and today's artillery is very precise, todays guns are better, you won't miss a target even over 50km away by more than a few meters, so I would like to see at least larger guns, if not the battleships, return 🤷‍♂️

[@historigraph]

Thanks for watching everyone! Just to let you know I am aware of the animation error at around 11:00 - this is totally on me (Josh). I left a layer turned on that I shouldn't have and didnt catch it before release.

[@sgtplop]

Dont worry about it mate, a small imperfection in an otherwise superb video

[@ghostsauce3463]

Intentional or not you deffinitly got me, I thought I was having a stroke.

[@Ronald98]

IMO it adds to the mystery of the situation! is this the British line or am i near enemy ships? i thought it was intentional.

[@Strahan740i]

I thought my projector had lost convergence, lol

[@hansvonmannschaft9062]

Haha! I put some eyedrops, thinking my contacts were getting dry from the air conditioner 😂 In any way, dude, I wouldn't even know how to open up the program you used to animate your vids. No need to apologize, I actually thank you for your top notch content 😀👍🏼

[@santoast24]

How well did radios work at this time, and how many ships even had them? I feel like this is a unique battle for a lot of reasons, but mostly for its role as the last time ships acted with so little communication between them. To me, just the tiniest bit of communication between the destroyer captains and Jellico would have resulted in a massive night duel, and the near total destruction of the High Seas Fleet. Not that the Grand Fleet would come out unscathed, of course.

[@historigraph]

Didn't have radio in the modern sense - you communicated by light, flag or morse

[@jeanadames8230]

@@historigraph I guess Morse code wasn’t that secure for the spread of information for both sides ?

[@magicintelligence6625]

Radios were a thing on a select few British ships, but the radio was not seen favorably in the British fleet, thus preferring to communicate only with traditional means. If I recall correctly, Room 40 O.B. tried to give Jellicoe important information throughout and well past the battle, but Jellicoe never received the radio messages.

[@mafiousbj]

@@magicintelligence6625 Also both radios and wireless telegraph needed operators. So if they were not at their post or Jellicoe just didn´t feel like posting people to manage the equipment no matter how much information was sent their way they would never receive it. The Titanic disaster only happened 4 years earlier and that was famous for being the first well known case of a telegraph being used to send distress signals and ask for help, and that mostly came from the bravery of the Titanic telegraph operators and someone actually being posted at the Carpathia´s telegraph after hours to receive those messages. I imagine "old school" admirals back in those days didn´t view any new tech favorably as you say, and only the missed opportunities and heavy bludners of this battle convinced or forced them to think differently.

[@mikepotter5718]

@@magicintelligence6625 Jeelicoe got some of the messages. He didn't trust them because of a misunderstanding caused by an officer with the the admiralty.

[@billhanna2148]

Thank you for another superbly enlightening piece of history.

[@historigraph]

Wow thanks so much!

[@deezn8tes]

Between you and Drach I have my WW1 Jutland series collection that I could listen to over and over again

[@LNgKhoi]

I can get the chaotic part, but the part that no other ships around coming to see what's going on was a bit a beyond me. Couldn't anybody beside the British destroyers seen or heard the guns and ship explosions? I get that night battles can be confusing as hell, but the lack of more response from the British fleet was even more confusing to me.

[@historigraph]

Gunfire could be clearly seen and observed by several British battleships, but they did not inform Jellicoe or take any action themselves

[@josh-029]

@@historigraph That really is mind-boggling to me. They saw gunfire, understood that that meant a battle was taking place, and didn't even bother to tell Jellicoe? Was this a case of them following the precise word of the order, rather than the spirit of it, or something else - like mistaking the engagement for one against the lighter German vessels, or general incompetence? It's amazing to think about how different things could've been had word reached Jellicoe.

[@Lykas_mitts]

@@josh-029 the culture of the RN at the time was to be silent until orders were issued IIRC (i.e. don't speak until spoken to) was even a problem during WW2 even though by that point they had been trying to fix that culture for a while.

[@josh-029]

@Lykas_mitts That would certainly explain it. Certainly a stereotype during the First and Second World Wars, particularly when compared to our German counterparts.

[@LNgKhoi]

Humans are weird man... When reality is unrealistic...

[@huntclanhunt9697]

6:45 It was not, in fact, a long way to Tipperary...

[@PaulfromChicago]

I do hope your next video goes into responsible parties, discipline for failures, and historiography. Battles are good, but the systems that govern discipline and logistics are absolutely fascinating. And continue to be relevant.

[@historigraph]

Trouble is, videos about abstract things like that won't get views (see our last video on the battle of the atlantic, which was logistics focused), so don't make sense to make

[@derrickstorm6976]

I was about to say, the overwhelming number of people interested in history are actually only interested in historic spectacles, which is a terrible shame especially since they then believe or pretend to understand history

[@PaulfromChicago]

@@historigraph I thought that video was absolutely brilliant. In fact I liked it so much I just subscribed to your Patreon. I was hoping you would do a battle on British coastal convoys of World War II. If the convoy system is underlooked, the coastal convoy system is definitely.

[@ricojes]

Sounds like a job for Perun.

[@arthurpicket3505]

@@historigraph In fairness it was a good video, just the topic was generic and done to death across multiple media platforms. I think a more specialized take on Jutland's logistics and fallout to cap off the series would be fantastic!

[@SmokeJam]

Always engaging to have a battle visualized like this. For people like me who have only the slightest clue about naval war doctrine and their execution, the reality is still very abstract to grasp. Hence it is highly enlightening and immersive to have it presented this way. Thank you for another high quality video!

[@dclark142002]

Jellico's moment of glory...the masterful deployment of the Grand Fleet to trap the German Fleet. Scheer demonstrating brilliant competence to survive the trap. The entire battle shows the Royal Navy conclusively demonstrating that their senior officer corps was distinctly incompetent...up to and including Beatty. Only Jellicoe knew what he was about.

[@AverageWagie2024]

At least Royal Navy officers in WW2 had combat experience. Jutland was the first major naval battle in over 100 years for the Royal Navy, they got lazy and complacent.

[@dclark142002]

@@AverageWagie2024, not true. There were a number of engagements between the North Sea fleets prior to Jutland.

[@AverageWagie2024]

@@dclark142002 Nothing close to the scale of Jutland. Dogger bank and falklands doesnt really count as they were skirmishes between cruisers and a few battlecruisers. The Battle of Jutland saw 42 British and German battleships duke it out in a pitched battle on the high seas, the first and only time this has ever happened.

[@dclark142002]

@@AverageWagie2024, the maneuvering around the Scarborough, Hartlepool, and Whitby raid nearly caused an engagement between Ingenohl's High Seas Fleet and Beattys detached battlecruiser and dreadnought force...and that wasn't the only time significant portions of each fleet were within an hour or so of fighting each other. Positioning prior to the guns firing is a KEY aspect of winning a naval fight...

[@noobster4779]

It was the first major naval battle in german histroy....ever and the biggest ever since@@AverageWagie2024

[@sagebiddi]

It always blows my mind at the loss of life during these engagements and how brave one would be to know this and still sign up for duty. The ocean is such an unforgiving theater and has always been. No screaming for a medic ... No hiding till a heli comes... No hoping natives will help.... Just an enveloping unimaginable frigid end as you are consumed by that frozen darkness falling into eternal nothingness

[@thetalesofdaneandco]

A fantastic followup to Historigraph's previous video "The Battle of Jutland: Clash of Dreadnoughts"

[@censoreduser]

Great video as always, quality always takes time

[@MXB2001]

Scheer: "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" The Pommern paid the ultimate price for that but it could have been worse. Gutsy, brilliant move. I've read accounts of the battle before but it seems the night action was pawned off as some sort of afterthought. Looks like it was the defining moment of the whole engagement. Also seeing it is (to me) worth a billion words.

[@aaroncabatingan5238]

It's not as flashy as several dozen battleships firing their guns at each other. But yeah, this was the defining moment of the battle. Had the British handled this fight better they could have annihilated the High Seas Fleet.

[@billythehillbilly7542]

The story of the Spitfire is absolutely heroic and needs a full length high budget movie as does this fight and several other ships and people

[@JamesThomas-gg6il]

The battle of jutland was over but the battle to claim victory had just begun... Great way of putting it.

[@pomazzzz]

What a video! It's amazing how you managed to convey the sense of confusion and dread this battle must have been like with simply a top down view of animated ships. Well done!

[@johnedreslin]

An excellent presentation of this little-discussed part of the Battle of Jutland. I learned a lot.

[@Archangel-mz3yo]

The chain of events unfolding in the night fighting is so bizzare one could not possibly make it up as no one would believe it. That being said: another very nice video to sip some earl grey to.

[@chocolatemilk5764]

Great animation and information!

[@historigraph]

Thank you!

[@wolfbyte3171]

After I heard of the exchange between Sparrowhawk and Broke back when World of Warships told of the event, reading the page about the ordeal Sparrowhawk's crew went through is incredible: -- Sparrowhawk still had engine power but the rudder was jammed to one side so she could do nothing except steam in circles, near the burning destroyer Tipperary. At around 0200 a German torpedo boat approached, coming within 100 yards (91 m), but then turned away. Only one gun was still functional, which the captain and his officers manned personally as the gun crews had been killed or injured, but they held fire in the hope the German would not initiate an attack Sparrowhawk could not hope to survive. Shortly after, Tipperary sank, putting out the fire which was attracting attention to the area. At around 0330 Sparrowhawk sighted a German cruiser, again causing considerable alarm, but shortly afterwards the ship was seen to list and then sink bow first. This was SMS Elbing, which had been torpedoed and then abandoned. At 0610 a raft approached, carrying 23 men from Tipperary: three were found to be already dead, while five more died after being taken on board. An hour later three British destroyers arrived and HMS Marksman attempted to get two hawsers attached to Sparrowhawk to tow her to safety. The high seas meant the ropes parted and there were reports of German submarines nearby. It was decided that Sparrowhawk must be abandoned, and Marksman fired 18 shells into her to ensure that she sank. -- Also, Broke ended up surviving the battle and the war, being sold to Chile in 1920. I need to look into the survival of Spitfire too!

[@mikekoss2782]

😊😊😊

[@semajniomet981]

Sadly, there isn't simply hitting "R" to fix all the problems on your ship in real life like there is in Warships.

[@uncaringbear]

Excellent video documenting the final phase of the Battle of Jutland. It paints a fascinating picture of just how chaotic and terrifying it must have been. There's something so epic about the naval battles of WWI that I find so engaging, compared to WWII.

[@wilms2328]

Fantastic sequel to one of my favorite videos of yours, well done! Love the new animator too, great work all around

[@MuhammadAli-255]

Thank you for this incredible video. I have never heard of the multiple engagements after the British battle cruisers were destroyed. This is a very important point of the battle so many documentaries and videos skip out on.

[@mwhyte1979]

I've always heard about the tragic loss of the British Battlecruiser"s during this battle but this was the first time I've heard about the slaughter of the British destroyers.

[@johngregory4801]

The sheer stubbornness of Beatty and those beneath him to avoid informing Admiral Jellicoe of what was happening is truly unfathomable.

[@neweraamerica7363]

Was sitting on my phone last night thinking it had been a while since you uploaded and was hoping for an upload soon. Thanks for the blessing.

[@enigmawyoming5201]

Your graphic representation of what you are saying is very good! New subscriber here. Now.. time to binge watch the rest of your videos while sitting next to my wood stove watching this spring storm going on outside for the last 2 days.

[@christopherhanton6611]

yea the night action was CRAZY not having NO GOOD RADAR RADIOS. both sides had no idea when they got close that was not their OWN NATIONS Ships

[@calebbyars]

Remarkable amounts of incompetence on both sides here.

[@bigsarge2085]

Awesome and informative as always, thank you!

[@JohnDoe-tx8lq]

I didn't realise the battle involved so many ships - that's crazy!

[@gptsiteuser]

Imagine last name being goodenough

[@DaveSCameron]

😮Best man called Mr Ladyhusband.. 😂

[@leohelen1858]

Don't forget you also have Archibald butts who was Lee major in the Army but died on the Titanic

[@bighamster2]

The Royal Navy in the 20th century had so many senior officers with great names. Manley Power, comes to mind. But admiral Goodenough is just *chef's kiss*

[@harveywallbanger3123]

I had a teacher with the same last name. Apparently it's pronounced "Good-noe" and doesn't stem from the modern adjective "enough", but instead its Middle English predecessor that just meant "a lot of something".

[@iyzu8413]

I'm a simple man. I see a new Historiograph video, I watch the video.

[@DaveSCameron]

A simply They / them I dare suggest...

[@iyzu8413]

@@DaveSCameron I corrected it, ty

[@DaveSCameron]

@@iyzu8413 😉

[@Jon.A.Scholt]

Historigraph just dropped another Jutland video! Drop whatever it is you are doing!

[@SPQRCJ97]

DUDE! I always hear about the battle of Jutland but this the first time I saw haw brutal and chaotic it is.

[@fearthehoneybadger]

Multiple reasons that that battle went bad for the British. The Royal Navy should have cleaned their clocks: even Hipper said so.

[@jeanadames8230]

I’m sorry but what do you mean by “cleansed their clocks” ? I’m genuinely curious.

[@pjlusk7774]

@@jeanadames8230 It means "beaten them badly, in an almost hopelessly one-sided way."

[@AverageWagie2024]

Jutland was a wake up call for the Royal Navy after 100 years of no competition. Many valuable lessons were learned which payed off in WW2.

[@pjlusk7774]

@@AverageWagie2024 and this is the Royal Navy after 20-odd years of Jackie Fisher-led reforms! The Navy was in much, much worse shape in 1880 or 1890.

[@dumptrump3788]

I'm amazed that people still think that the Royal Navy came off worst. Germany achieved NONE of its war aims with this action. The RN blockade stayed in place & the High Seas Fleet remained bottled up in Port. Meanwhile, the RN went back to patrolling the North Sea, as usual. Claiming that Jutland was some sort of German victory is like claiming that the battle of Kursk went in their favor, too.

[@swouse8182]

12 views 12 likes. says alot about the quality of your videos

[@JustPlainDrain]

Yet again another beautiful work, keep it up man :)

[@spencerderosier6649]

Wish you made more videos. I think you and history matters have the most polished and digestible short documentaries.

[@mohanedmohsen8263]

i didn't expect this many ships collided to each other in the battel

[@tdestroyer1882]

Amazing video! I don’t mind you taking longer to make videos if they have a far better quality and story. Let’s hope you never stop making these kinds of videos!

[@cornishdiaspora918]

Excellent stuff, a part of the battle usually glossed over.

[@marlinperkins6910]

I must say, this was a very frustrating battle.

[@LAH92]

In battle, communication is always key to be successful. I guess this got passed down in doctrine from instances like this!! Rest in peace to them all who fought hard for their countries

[@Rpunkt-uo6ri]

Mr. Goodenough...what a cool name is that

[@constantinexi6489]

Jutland was completely insane

[@Armo1997]

Excellent vid on this lesser-known but very dramatic action of Jutland.

[@Il_Principessa]

I love how formation on ww1 are still fighting on a line

[@brokenbridge6316]

A chaotic n tragic night time battle for sure. Nice video.

[@randywise5241]

Communication and enemy recognition seemed to plague them. What a terrifying night it must have been to the average sailor.

[@Community_GuideIines]

That sudden cut to advertisement for is so damn funny for me some reason, my humour is totally broken

[@YoungGarrett]

RIP to Shaun Micallef's (great) grandfather on HMS Black Prince.

[@marshall1896]

You should be video on the Carmania vs the Cap Trafalger. Or the story of the story of the Kaiser Wilhelm Der Große or the HMAS Sydney vs the Kormoran. Definitely the last one.

[@maxhill7065]

Holy shit I want to read more about the Spitfire and her return to port, that's incredible that they were able to limp back

[@matthewgray9752]

I like at 4:50 there's that column of six ships which does a few 180's before they maintain the correct course as the other ships.

[@michaelstadnikfilm]

Always enjoy these. Well done as always!

[@davesnothere.]

WELL DONE! I appreciate the animation!

[@wedgeantillies66]

That why night fighting can be an absolute disaster for one to engage as it can be so chaotic, confused and deadly to all that participate in. Even more so when you let your destroyers roam free ahead of your main battleships as the enemy fleet desperately and successively break through said force.

[@henriquekonradt541]

The tale of SMS Nassau and HMS Spitfire has always amazed me. I just started the video and I hope he talks about it.

[@matome3050]

I was thinking yesterday, that I should watch the WW1 videos on here again. And now there is a new one! And it's as awsome as usual. 😊 (I just noticed a typo at 2:17. It sais "Princzregent" instead of "Prinzregent". Just a small thing, but as a german I noticed that immediately 😅)

[@psour33]

The fact that most of the rear grand fleet battleships did enjoy a full view of fights between 4th flotilla and German battleships, and that none of them opened fire or signaled Jellicoe, is beyond my understanding.

[@richbob9155]

It always shocks me how insane naval warfare was before modern radar and radios on every ship. It must have been pure chaos half the time with half the fleet not knowing what is even going on. All it takes is one bad ship captain and it can ruin an entire flotillas day. Lots of bad captains in this engagement for sure.

[@joechang8696]

It is still insane, radar was difficult to interpret is early wwii, and let’s not forget Vincennes: is that an attacking f-14 or just an airbus?

[@colindunnigan8621]

Excellent video! One nit: according to Steel & Hart "Jutland 1916: Death in the Gray Wastes," (pp302-03) there were five survivors from Frauenlob, at least two of which left an account of their experiences: a Midshipman named Stoltzmann, and Machinist Max Muller. I was surprised when I read that, thinking the cruiser was lost with all hands as well.

[@Cheeseybeaver45]

I seriously wish they’d make some navy battle movies with these battles it would be epic

[@avus-kw2f213]

14:28 as a combatant in who won the battle of Jutland I can say this will never end and people will still be fighting for eternity

[@henrikthegreat7319]

This is prove that domstacking combined with rapid combat logging does work in real life

[@clank1013]

Great job, love the animations and history lessons

[@gonavygonavy1193]

I wish UAD or other games could simulate this level of chaos and lack of C&C in naval battles, especially night battles. Even RtW doesn't quite measure up.

[@SlimeJime]

When I get greedy in early RTW, night battle kinda end up like this. It also feels this way when the first missiles appear

[@ericvogt7123]

I can't believe I've never heard of this

[@trauko1388]

Great video, the only thing missing was the mention fo the incredible luck of Jellicoe... Scheer sent all its destroyers in different bearings in order to attack the GF, only that the flotilla that would have intercepted Jellicoe suffered delays and deviations while passing through the HSF lines, so no night DD attack occurred, which in light of the mediocre GF night fighting capabilities it was a godsend.

[@hansvonmannschaft9062]

The Brit destroyer pile-up definitely deserves a separate video with some Monty Python dialogue in it!

[@harveywallbanger3123]

"Like a barroom brawl after the lights have been shot out."

[@clevtrog]

The amount of ships lost in ww1 with their entire crew is pretty tragic

[@davidrasthammar1057]

It would be interesting to see a movie about this battle, almost all war movies are about land battles.

[@talleywa5772]

Might as well have used grappling hooks and sabers at some of those distances.

[@MemekingJag]

it's interesting to me how much this affected naval combat in the next big war, even on the opposite side of the world. the japanese put massive stock in training for night battles likely because of how devastating it was to lack it at jutland. i could easily see how many in the IJN would have thought that a single, decisive engagement at night could have decided the naval war in the pacific.

[@shengyi1701]

The name Ardent seems cursed. One sunk at Jutland, one sunk trying to help the HMS Glorious in encounter with Scharnhorst and Gneisnau and another sunk in the Falklands in 1982. First Ardent was captured by the French but later recaptured and re-named HMS Tiger.

[@tubad4ya66]

Judging from the startling photo, HMS Spitfire seemed to have been given a "devil's haircut."

[@Colbato.]

We really kicked your arse in the Battle of the Skagerrak.

[@cee_ves]

“shit we lost like a whole group of ships there now” “fuck… oh wait look there’s our friends! signal them!”

[@bradleywoods1999]

I'd love a series on other seiges of WW2, the videos in the Budapest series were some of the best you've made and we're fantastic to watch. You could do stalingrad, leningrad or Berlin there's so many options.

[@TammoSeppelt]

SMS Frauenlob was NOT cut in half (it lies complete in the sea right now) and had 8 survivors.

[@historigraph]

You may be right. For clarity, the source I was using here was Massie's Castles of Steel, which refers to the whole crew going down with her.

[@trauko1388]

@@historigraph Ooofff... Massie is bad, very bad, only cares about the brit stuff and is mostly propaganda, Campbell is the bible on Jutland for every hit and damage suffered, it used to be available online for free. A gift: "The German destroyer flotillas were to carry out night attacks, but fortunately for the British the position of their battlefleet was not known, so that the flotillas had to be spread between 55° and 190°. There were defects in the plan adopted, and no success was obtained. Scheer had told Commodore Heinrich in the Regensburg as early as 1916 that his three flotillas were to attack during the night, and at 2000 both Heinrich and the Senior Leader of Destroyers, Commodore Michelsen, in the Rostock, were ordered by Scheer to direct all flotillas to attack. Heinrich had available the ten destroyers of the 2nd Flotilla which had only fired one torpedo with two damaged, so that they had 57 left, and three destroyers of the 12th Half-Flotilla with 15 torpedoes. In order to obtain a view, less obscured by haze and smoke, the Regensburg turned back with these destroyers at c2010 and made for a position northward of the German rear, and not far from where the Indefatigable had sunk, wreckage being noted by the B97 and G103. The 2nd Flotilla were to attack in the sector 55° to 100° and, if it appeared inadvisable to return via the German Bight, were to make for Kiel round the Skaw. The next sector, 100° to 122°, was allotted to the 12th Half-Flotilla. Just after the destroyers had been given their orders, and 14 minutes before they were finally detached at 2030, a signal was received from Scheer, that the Rostock was to conduct all attacks. Heinrich had foreseen this, and had therefore confined his flotillas to the tactically less favourable northern sectors to avoid obstructing Michelsen. This meant that the most promising sectors would be given to the coal-fired destroyers of the 5th and 7th Flotillas. Heinrich notified Scheer and Michelsen of the orders issued, and Michelsen then informed Scheer that Heinrich would direct the attacks of his flotillas independently. Both the 2nd Flotilla and 12th Half-Flotilla encountered British forces earlier than intended and at 2052 the 2nd LCS opened fire on the latter at 3500-5500yds. The destroyers turned away, and the S50 was hit by a 6in shell which did not explode but put one boiler out of action amongst other damage, so that she had to reduce to 25kts and return to the German Fleet. The destroyers made smoke and artificial fog, and the V69 and V46 resumed their course at 2110. In addition to the 2nd LCS, the Benbow fired one salvo of 6in, and a round from `B' turret, while the Valiant believed that the 2nd LCS were firing at a submarine on her starboard bow, for which she altered course. The Barham fired some rounds of 6in at a supposed submarine during the battle, possibly at this time. The 2nd Flotilla sighted the British 2nd LCS and 12th Flotilla at 2045-2050, and also turned away, gradually describing a large circle to starboard, so that they did not resume their eastward course until 2130 or 2140. This delay caused the 2nd Flotilla to pass far astern of any British battleships, though the V69 and V46 approached much nearer. Of the other oil-fired destroyers, the G41 and the 11th Half-Flotilla had only three torpedoes left between them, and were sent to take station at the head of the line. The 9th Flotilla had lost three destroyers, and of the remainder the V28 and S52 had no torpedoes left, while the V28 was also damaged, as was the S51 which had two torpedoes, and these three took station on the 1st Squadron. The other five destroyers of this flotilla had a total of 21 torpedoes available and, in company with the G42 of the 3rd Flotilla which still had six torpedoes but was reduced in speed, joined the Rostock, and at 2130 were steaming towards the head of the line. The other five surviving destroyers of the 3rd Flotilla had 20 torpedoes left, though the G88 had only one. They did not regain touch with the German Fleet for some time after their final attempt to reach the Wiesbaden, but by 2045 had joined the Regensburg and, for the time being, were retained as a reserve. Lastly the G38, G40, V45 and G37 with a total of 20 torpedoes were accompanying the Lutzow, the G39 with six torpedoes, the 1st SG and then the Moltke; the S32, which had only one torpedo left, was with the Rostock. The destroyers of the 5th and 7th Flotillas had each one oil-fired and three coal-fired boilers, and the fires in the latter were very dirty, so that in order to prepare them to some extent for smokeless steaming during the coming attacks, speed had to be held to 17-18 or at the most 21kts, and' even at 15kts sparks and funnel smoke were visible at a considerable distance. As the British fleet speed during the night was 17kts, this was a serious handicap, and in addition the position where they were detached by the Rostock at c2110,, was near the rear of the German line, whose alterations of course hampered these flotillas. Neither had yet fired any torpedoes, so that the 5th had 44 and the 7th 36 available. Michelsen thought that the British would probably steam southward under the Jutland coast during the night and assigned the sector 122° to 156° to the 7th Flotilla, and 156° to 190° to the 5th. Owing to Michelsen's and Heinrich's flotillas being detached from different positions, there was however a gap between the 122° boundaries of the sectors of the 12th Half-Flotilla and 7th Flotilla. The 5th Flotilla proceeded generally 173° after they were detached, and should have begun to search their sector at 2230, but they were delayed 30 minutes by having to pass twice through the German line, and also by smoke interfering with visual signals. The 7th Flotilla which were steering 139° passed through the line of the 3rd Squadron at about 2125, and 3 minutes or so later the S23 was briefly lit up by SL and fired at. Recognition signals stopped further firing, and the 7th Flotilla altered course to 122° to get further away from the German Fleet, and proceeded in close order at 17kts. There were thus no German destroyers in the sector between 122° and 173°, where the British battleships were to be found." The book goes into excruciating detail about the fighting with no bias, which is rare. The brits were INCREDIBLY lucky... also note the Germans actually talked to each other, unlike the British. Otherwise, the video is EXCELLENT.

[@TammoSeppelt]

@FalklandsRforeverBritish Not that I care like you do, Mustafa. But it was not.

[@benhall7574]

Oh for the want of anyone, literally anyone who had the brains to let Jellico know what was going on

[@vaiperhsantos8449]

Thank you for this incredible Documentary!!!! Any more about Falklands War

[@cheriefsadeksadek2108]

Battle Of Jutland was a Tactical Victory For The German Navy But A strategic Victory for the Royal Navy

[@huntclanhunt9697]

It's actually 4:02AM, May 18, 2023 right now but thanks anyways.

[@sammyclassicstarfoxfan9827]

2:21 Interesting to see just how badly the battlecruisers fared.

[@Liaison_Verequiem]

Gotta thank carrier warfare. It would've been so much better had radar not been invented would be crazy to see so many mis haps and accidents

[@bandofbrothers5860]

Imagine telling Jellico that 16 destroyers were lost some time between 12:30 and 1:30

[@Jon.A.Scholt]

The opening music is back!!!!!!

[@kenny_mc_cormick]

Great animation on this video!

[@johnconnor2626]

Such a dramatic game of snake

[@scottmccrea1873]

It's insane they could be a few football fields apart and not know who's there.

[@AErch]

Spitfire after taking on a brunt of Nassua's shelling in point blank: *TIS BUT A SCRATCH*

[@magni5648]

She didn't take a single shell, actually. Nassau literally couldn't depress her guns far enough to be able to hit the smaller destroyer at that range. The damage Spitfire took? That was "just" the muzzle blast of eight 11-inch guns firing right above her.