Destroying A Beautiful Dining Table! | The Wood Whisperer

[@jeremymorris6671]

The dust collector dance Completely caught me off guard lol

[@jeffreysmith5018]

Jason is clearly the hardest working brother-in-law on the planet 😊😊

[@jacobhicks7959]

So cool that you point out design flaws, clearly a very beautiful table but form follows function for a true wordsmith

[@SaladaTodoDia]

I not only learned so much woodworking. I used you videos to learn English language. Thank you so much!

[@andrewv5104]

I"m so happy Jason is back he's such a great addition to the TWW team.

[@woodwhisperer]

He sure is!

[@johnnyb95678]

Love to see reuse and recycling videos. It doesn't always have to be something new. Thanks for another excellent video.

[@ScottS360]

I was surprised: I really liked the original table... but the new one seems even better! Really happy to see that the original table was "upcycled" to make the new one.

[@mststgt]

That's funny - I did the exact thing with our dining table for the exact same reason. 😄 I chose to turn the straightened legs 45 degrees inwards and attached the old rails on the inner side of the legs. That gave me enough length to reuse the old rails again.

[@blackcat40417]

I love the up cycle/recycle videos. I would love to see more conversions.

[@aaroncashion7570]

Love the practicality of this. This is what most of my woodworking ends up looking like. Thanks for sharing Marc.

[@chrisbrennaman3665]

The timing of this video couldn’t have been better. I’ve been trying to find a design for a dining table to build for a while and sent my wife a picture of the original version of this yesterday, but we agreed that we didn’t want something quite as MCM. I was thinking I’d give it a try with a smaller angle on the legs, hoping for a more modern feel. Thanks for giving me the proof of concept!

[@rroades]

I was curiously waiting for something about a change in table height. Did it change at all? Or did I miss it?

[@woodwhisperer]

I meant to explain that in the summary and forgot about it. We gained about 1/2" or so.

[@sm9112]

The original skew angle lowers the effective height of the top when placed on the original legs. The new legs with square cuts, while shorter than the originals, would have approximately the same effective table top height since the full length is now utilized. The finished height difference would be negligible.

[@woodwhisperer]

Not negligible..about 1/2". Which was good because they wanted it a little taller anyway.

[@siebe41]

Nice. It's pretty cool you were able to save most of it.

[@bradleytuckwell4881]

Nice approach to a revamp it looks great

[@glencrandall7051]

Nice reconfigure.. The new configuration appears to work well. Congratulations.🙂🙂

[@patricksquires77]

Form VS Function Definitely a story of form over function worked well until the function become the primary use/priority. I appreciate that you ultimately decided changing and repurposing the existing table bits into an ‘new’ table. Can be hard to cut a completed project. Great vid!

[@billpowell1614]

I recently took a G&G sleigh bed that I started 10+ years ago (complete frame, missing many details) and converted the curved shaped legs into the base for my new workbench base! Lots of cherry tied to a dead project is now a cool bench for retirement!

[@DriverDude100]

It looks great! I like it better than before. Nice to know that glueing the aprons end grain is not futile. Well done.

[@davidbritton8429]

I absolutely agree with you on not using polyurethane finishes. My favorite so far is either tongue oil or paste wax. Loved what you did to the table.

[@Erewhon2024]

Isn't g00gle "intelligent?" I believe he not only meant, but also typed, "tung oil" and AI thought he misspelled something. Rendering tongues for tallow is an interesting image but probably not efficient. (-;

[@Blueridgedog]

Oddly when you made it, I thought it was more form that functional item. Glad you salvaged it for the use at hand.

[@jimrosson6702]

Turned out beautiful love how you repurposed all most the the hole old table great job

[@andyantoniou4854]

Looks like a whole 360 on your finishing preferences, and I just got on to the Rubio seen. 😂 I get why you did it, especially the way you explained it. Looks awesome before and after, thanks for a really good way to show how preferences and/or style can change and an easy way to adapt to them, refreshing!

[@woodworksbygrampies1284]

Hola! 🖐That was a really nice table before, it's a really nice table after this "facelift". This video can be a good tutorial for taking a nice table found at a Yard/Garage/Estate Sale, Goodwill, Salvation Army or similar store and turning it into an even nicer table. I really like this video. Take care and have a good one, Adios!👊

[@gizanked]

I like that to find the angle you found a perpendicular surface to stand the Itty bitty foot on instead of just putting the sliding bevel on the top and over the edge. 😂. I guess either works but as far as reference edges go the top and bottom of the legs are just 90° to the outside edge right?

[@andrewbrown8148]

Nice "re-do", Marc~! Sometimes just gotta give the Etch-A-Sketch a gentle shake. 😀

[@davidmeyer9204]

Thanks Marc!

[@jeremyspecce]

The new version of the table looks great. Definitely like said, different but not worse, and way more practical. 👍🏻

[@poppamad979]

Great project and a good one to show folks that you don't have to trash it and start all over. I have been starting to use Rubio for all my work and recently added a ceramic top coat to a piece that I was concerned about water stains (like a dining room table). No long term results yet, but am giving it a try. I just got tired of the orangey tint from my old standby of poly and the ease of application of the Rubio is amazing and if it gets a bit of a damaged spot, it is super simple to touch it up. Just wondered if you have tried the ceramic coatings???

[@TheLindsay720]

Interesting video and I love both versions of the table.

[@RobDucharme]

3:29 Generally I will add a thin layer of glue to end grain and let it sit for a short while before doing a glue up (if it absolutely needs to hold well). That way the glue that soaks into the end grain clogs the grain from soaking up more glue from the other piece. Granted, I'm not gluing up harder woods (where this might matter less), so there's that...

[@robandsharonseddon-smith5216]

Love it. Looks more functional but still nearly as cool.

[@LiqdPT]

Since you cut the legs, did the table end up being slightly shorter? Or did going from an angled out leg to straight up and down compensate for that?

[@woodwhisperer]

The change in angle actually added about 1/2" to the height.

[@scotter_dotter]

Great save!

[@josemoya991]

Great video John, first time commenting, I appreciate you showing us a good everyday finish. I love rubio monocoat for decorative pieces. I have been searching for a good everyday use finish and will have to give Sherman Williams a try. Again great video. Can't wait for the next one to drop.

[@MCsCreations]

Beautiful work, Marc! It really turned out amazing! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@mwrcrft]

Great looking table,

[@StoneyMeyerhoeffer]

3:20. It is always worth it. I do an initial thin coating of glue on the end grain and give it a couple hours to get pulled into the wood and dry enough to be a barrier. Then I do my glue up. It works. well. The wood starts breaking someplace other than the joint again. P.S. No loose tenon or other joinery required believe it or not. Even still I usually do a mortise and tenon. If not that, then a loose tenon or dowel.

[@TrentR42]

Let's go! Upcycle that table. (Tons of woodworkers and makers get started from tables off the side of the road)

[@martingagne3136]

nice restoration ,

[@shaynesabala]

You make everything seems so easy, true talent. Thanks for the video and thanks for making me want a domino more. Lol.

[@celeronceleron5595]

In all likely hood, I believe what happened in the glue up around the dominos is the end grain has tubes in it which conduct water around the tree. These tubes can absorb glue and that explains the low bonding away from the dominos. The bonding near the dominos occurred because of glue squeeze out.

[@derekjarman1638]

Very nice!!

[@joeleonetti8976]

Cool! Did you also resign with a new date to reflect both old and new mfg.

[@petercrizer6102]

Nice work !

[@davidiliyn]

I don’t recommend sherwin t77 f37 for a table top. Fine for cabinets. Bad for tables, use their CV or something like Rudd 680 conversion varnish. I use it all the time in public spaces. Holds up so much better than lacq

[@nathanswoodcrafts]

Marc do you happen to have a link or part number to the lacquer you used to finish the table? The label seems to say T77 F 32, is that it? Thanks and great video!

[@beaglecat6483]

I find tables bought at charity shops or on Market Place are a great souce of good timber at a much cheaper price than from a timber merchant. The top can be easy repurposed, cut into planks etc, the legs the same. nothing gets wasted.

[@bobby-c7731]

Really great video. Thank you, Marc and Jason. Love the final look. Forgive me if this is a dumb question…. Is the table now shorter after trimming the legs? If so, by how much? And has that been a noticeable difference in its use ?

[@massiminimakes]

Not a dumb question. Chances are the rotation from a 15 degree angle to vertical offset the amount that they trimmed off so the table should be the same height.

[@woodwhisperer]

The table actually gained about 1/2" in height.

[@bobby-c7731]

@@woodwhisperer interesting. Thank you for answering.

[@cloughshelton3510]

Great video. What is the stop block system that you use? I built your miter station (and love it) but the new stop block system looks interesting.

[@farmcat3198]

You must be getting a lot of tornado scares since your move from Denver.

[@threesteaks]

Great video! It's cool to see something changed to work opposed to getting rid of it and starting new. I wonder if something like the N3 nano finish that Blacktail Studio is selling now would have helped make the Rubio finish acceptable for daily wear and tear. I'm sure the new finish is fine but film finishes seem like more work in the long run when they eventually fail. Thanks for making great content!

[@woodwhisperer]

Thanks John. I plan on testing a few of those ceramic finishes soon. Carbon Method makes one too. We'll see. At a certain point you're spending a shit load of money just to make a low durability finish into a high durability finish, when high durability finishes already exist.

[@mattsnyder4754]

This is like… the first table’s blue collar sibling who likes to pick on his brother who went to art school.

[@lincolndickerson1293]

First, tons of great info here, thanks! Curious if you thought of putting the legs turned at 45 or pointed toward the center maybe to try to help with the knee strike issue. If so, why did you not use it?

[@denisoriordan6739]

Hey, Marc. How come you didn’t just square up the top 4” of the legs on the table saw, straight from the fence, like a reverse taper jig? Then your long rails wouldn’t need a mitre cut. Unless I’m missing something….

[@karl_alan]

I was wondering the same. Seems like instead of all the angle finding & cutting, squaring up that angle for the top couple inches on the table saw, miter saw or band saw might make easier joinery.

[@woodwhisperer]

That’s another way to handle it. Just personal preference I suppose. Work is about the same either way. Domino doesn’t care about the angle so joinery is the same either way.

[@karl_alan]

@@woodwhisperer I suppose that makes sense. Not having a domino, my mind was specifically thinking of how to make 90⁰ angles, probably out of habit of trying to simplify joinery.

[@siebe41]

Yeah I think that's how I would've done it but also don't have a domino. Like Karl said I'm also in the habit of going for 90 where I can.

[@karl_alan]

Any reason you wouldn't just square up the top couple inches of the legs to eliminate all that angle finding & cutting for the long rails? Seems easier.

[@patricksquires77]

‘Net New Customer’ Projects… It is not the woodworking… it is always the finish that is always the expectations gap. This pain/gap is in many trades I think… I was reminded of this when my driveway was paved - and the small business concrete driveway co. owner spent more time aligning my expectations on the ‘finish’ of my basic no frills driveway then the shape etc. I did go with him however!

[@JohnClark-tt2bl]

How was the top actually attached to the rails? Just curious what method you used.

[@woodwhisperer]

Just Figure 8 fasteners.

[@keithdavenport7009]

As Always, a great job!

[@Paul-jp8zz]

looking good! Pretty risky spraying outdoors, no? bugs or dirt or whatever landing on it?

[@woodwhisperer]

Only if there are bugs and dirt to worry about on that particular day.

[@Robyrob7771]

I think it looks better!

[@JohnHarmon]

Thumbs up for the hula dancing!

[@jamesmjubran]

great job

[@sirbrewzalot]

What did that angle end up being? I was actually going to build a table like that and didn't think about the legs getting in the way. This is a really nice compromise, I may switch to something like this.

[@brintkeyes7011]

Very Cool. Where's the music from?

[@christopherleenknecht920]

Looks Great 👍

[@RobertSababady]

Lovely. Sweet!

[@kevinwiley5325]

For your Rubio finishes, have you considered doing that nano-something coating that Cam with Blacktail Studios is using and selling? I haven’t used it myself, so I’d love your insight on it if you would test it.

[@woodwhisperer]

I plan on testing a few of these soon. Carbon Method makes one too. We'll see. At a certain point you're spending a shit load of money just to make a low durability finish into a high durability finish, when high durability finishes already exist.

[@jeremyspecce]

@@woodwhisperer well said. I used to really be into off roading Jeeps, and you’d see these guys who would start off with a Jeep Liberty and put $10,000 into it and wind up with something equivalent to a base Wrangler. And it’s the same thing, you’re better just starting off with the thing that’s made for it.

[@davidm2645]

Do you ever use General Finishes "Arm-R-Seal? That seems to be my go to finish. What are your thoughts on that product?

[@psychoticvenom]

What's the difference in the height vs the old table? Seems like the angle change would have you lose about 1/2" to 1"

[@woodwhisperer]

The opposite. The angle change resulted in a height gain of something like 1/2".

[@jordansnyder9650]

New table looks great but I am partial to the old. Kind of a sucker for angles and tapered mcm style legs.

[@WrongTimeWatch]

I need to redo the legs on my construction lumber kitchen table. I don't have a domino or a down jig. Guess I will just use pocket holes.

[@firesurfer]

Nice passive-aggressive comment. :)

[@Cynyr]

I mean you could use a router and your own loose tenons, or traditional mortises, or if a half door i recently made out of scrap to keep our 3 year old out of the kitchen, pocket holes will work great.

[@dpmeyer4867]

nice job

[@domeniclupo644]

Great build. Do you have to thin that lacquer when you spray it?

[@woodwhisperer]

You don’t have to but it can be helpful, especially on the first coat.

[@JoeGP]

6:55 sure you can, just run it through the table saw and make the last 5 inches parallel, much simpler than messing with angles

[@firesurfer]

12:46 It certainly is. Best soft mallet there is.

[@jackknife89actual]

question: any reason why you didn't put a vertical face on the legs the same size as the long rail, instead of beveling the long rail?

[@woodwhisperer]

Nope. This is what occurred to me and I think it looks cooler.

[@anthonygrey9282]

How do you manage to keep your table top completely flat? I recently made a table top 900x1300mm from ash, using 5 boards, I alternated the boards (happy/sad) the moisture content was 12%, I oiled it evenly on both sides, yet I bring it in from my workshop to my home and within days it’s cupped. It’s incredibly frustrating and makes me want to throw stuff!

[@woodwhisperer]

12% is quite high for furniture. You should be aiming for 6-8%. Sounds like the wood just dried more once brought inside.

[@anthonygrey9282]

@@woodwhisperer I’ll try and bring the pieces of wood in the house prior to working on them to get to final dimensions. I’ll aim to get the moisture content down. Thank you for the help.

[@stevenbrowningsr1144]

To avoid the difficulty (??) of the angled ends on the long rails, could you cut the inside of the legs parallel to the outside at the top of the leg, just enough to cover the height of the rail? This should make it easier on mortising for the dowels or your dominos.

[@woodwhisperer]

That’s another way to handle it but doesn’t save much time. Domino joinery is the same either way.

[@webcrawler3332]

Could you spray that finish with an electric HVLP?

[@alangrudzinski7439]

What is the SW Product number for that lacquer?

[@typeafurniture]

What was the size (in HP and tank volume) of the compressor you used for spraying the finish?

[@woodwhisperer]

amzn.to/3UJ4cFd

[@j.r.millstone]

10:40 I thought the kapex saw came with its own miter guage thingamabob. Doesn't it?

[@fleurdelune5240]

Beautiful ❤

[@davecurda2350]

Love the 1960s Charlie Brown music 🎶

[@bristolbrightworks]

How long do you wait between coats?

[@woodwhisperer]

A few hours. If it's warm and dry, that stuff sets up very quickly.

[@edwardsimmons3721]

I am always up for recycling something.

[@thenext9537]

I am finishing a walnut table with apron, and using Arm R seal “satin”. I feel this product is made to torture people because no matter what I do it steaks. Soaked a Terry sponge in mineral spirits, squeezed out, heavy coating of finish, one pass no backsies. 1/4 overlap no back brushing. Streaks. Tried foam brush. Streaks. Tried painting pad with rag over it no seams or creases, light light pressure. Streaks. About to kick this can into its next life and take 120 to it and go back to bare wood because I’m losing my damn mind!!!!

[@joshuabailly2639]

Waste not, want not. I noticed both you guys in you 'dad tennys' in the video, but you must have gotten a fresh pair for the outro. Seriously bright red shoes!

[@woodwhisperer]

Brooks running shoes and red Chucks aren’t remotely what I’d call “dad shoes.” 😂 They may not be great fashion choices but Dad shoes they are not. 😂

[@joshuabailly2639]

@The Wood Whisperer well somebody better tell my wife my Asics running shoes aren't dad shoes because she like to tease me. Maybe a stylish pair of chucks would be a better choice. Thanks for the fashion tips Marc.

[@LuckySeven-pj1iu]

I commend you for getting through the entire video without saying, "The angle of your dangle..."

[@matteberry58]

I like the new lacquer finish. Way to upcycle!

[@TaylerMade]

for speed, ease of use and durability my go to finishes after 40 years in the trade are lacquer and shellac. don't like the plastic wrap look of poly and the oil etc finishes are never kept up with by the owners.

[@extremepcs2807]

Why does it seem to wrong to be using a sawzall on walnut? ;)

[@woodwhisperer]

Because it is wrong. :)

[@dukefrywokker6470]

Perhaps I missed it, but you didn't address the height difference after cutting all the legs down. Isn't the table like 2 inches lower than before now?

[@woodwhisperer]

1/2” taller now.

[@woodfather]

Asking the important questions here, the red shoes, do they give you +10, or +20 leg-speed? 😆

[@ScottHampshire]

Hey that's my hammer! 🔨

[@woodwhisperer]

Yeah it is!!!

[@TJ-vv9dl]

Whoa whoa whoa. Are you spraying outside??? 😂 Matt hates the environment

[@crescentworks6855]

I love leftover Domino's!

[@magcolor]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@dj-bn1fj]

This is why when my wife wants me to build something for her, 1, Draw it up and 2. write down the measurements so if it's not what she wants it's not on me. 😍

[@Erewhon2024]

She acknowledges an ability to read plans?

[@BiggMo]

Never realized he had dimples