Detective Comics Rebirth: Batwoman Begins

[@Elderahn]

Katherine Kane has one of the most striking visual designs ever. It's this gothic horror/metal cover vampiress, love it.

[@waveunlimited5930]

Niklas Reuter Gerdrup they make her look manly tho but have her dress very lady like in her civics

[@GNSCMW]

Niklas Reuter Gerdrup oh come on that’s the type of character of bats I wanted to make

[@gizmomac1520]

Yes she is very gothic and vampiric. Even she was described as "psycho-billy-goth".

[@RobotCavePartytime]

I had a dream last night. It was a dream where I was hanging out with this really cute girl. We were playing video games and talking about comic books. It was dope. She was looking at me. I was looking at her. Stuff started getting intense. I leaned in for a kiss and so did she. Right as we were about to meet lips. I heard. "AND WITH THAT BEING SAID GUYS, IF YOU ARE NEW TO COMICSEXPLAINED" And I suddenly woke up in a sweaty mess.

[@professornosleep5737]

69. heh nice.

[@Windupchronic]

This Batwoman, Kate Kane, was actually introduced in Detective Comics #854 and ran to #863. She took over Detective while Batman was missing following Final Crisis. It introduced the character, her complex family history, and her first encounters with Batman. She got her own new 52 series a little over a year later. As far as I can remember, this being 6-7 years ago, nothing from her Detective run was changed when she launched in New 52. It was more in line with Green Lantern, where the story just continued.

[@adot9259]

ShadowCat you're right. There's non Kate Kane batwoman and then 52 Kate Kane batwoman and then the most known which is the Detective comics/New 52 Kate Kane batwoman. This new rebirth batwoman has retconned certain aspects of her history (detective/new52). Her backstory is a little changed to include the colony stuff so Her father is completely changed. Batman and Batwoman both know who each other are and their family history is played up.

[@Windupchronic]

FABIAN DOTY Weird. I haven't read the Rebirth stuff at all. I'm only familiar with the original Kane material. Which is awesome, and I highly recommend.

[@luckyblume2116]

ShadowCat Hi, you seem to know a lot about comics and I wanted to ask you where can I find Detective Comics Rebirth Vol 4: Batwoman Begins(title of the video). I searched for it and could not find it. Is it part of Batman Rebirth?

[@echo2121]

Greg Rucka can usually do no harm.

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

I really like that she is willing to kill when necessary. Seriously if Batman just killed the Joker he would prevent so many from suffering, not to mention making his life a hell of a lot easier.

[@SinofSloth6855]

up until now I knee nothing about Batwoman, hell I didn't even know any Batwoman fans and she didn't show up in my favorite batman titles. But after watching this, i am actually intrigued

[@Nobody-fb7ni]

Christopher Jackson why would you knee stuff about batwoman anyway?

[@Spiderweb444]

A lot has been retconed actually. Making Jacob Kane a villain, when he is actually a hero and one person whom Kate could rely on when her sister had sort of become a joker and came back.

[@miamikaos5958]

Drinking game for every time Rob says "capable" in this video.

[@miamikaos5958]

+felony jones true, I find myself saying it more often now too.

[@slightlytwistedagain]

Kate Kane is a really interesting character and has amazing potential but there's one thing I really don't like and that she's blood related to Bruce. That's one cliche that really drags the character down IMO.

[@ryanmichael7007]

Agreed. But I find it easy to gloss over. I really didn't they were cousins and it really doesn't matter.

[@gizmomac1520]

Yes, I feel like she has her own league

[@ROSPoetry1]

Get off 3rd shift job, sees notification on phone, immediately starts watching. Great videos so far Rob.

[@PureMaddnessOne]

the OG batwoman was created as a sorta GF for batman, because everyone thought batman was gay and a couple with robin, but she at same time she was his aunt i think it was, the modern version (new 52 version is not that diff) is made a lesbian and his cousin instead of aunt

[@TheNorang]

Hey rob, you should cover Batwoman Elegy(pre-new52 detective comics run) book sometimes. That book was amazing and it essentially got me into comics

[@TheVetoSkreeemer]

Peter Cho best Batwoman story I ve read.

[@TheNorang]

ikr? it wasn't just a best batwoman story, it was an amazing story of someone who wanted to serve to a greater cause. Greg Rucka's story really brought her character to life and I feel like this video alone doesn't do Batwoman justice.

[@nicholasyoakum1439]

Agreed. @ComicsExplained Hey Rob. If you want your viewers to get into Batwoman. Make a video on Batwoman Elegy. It's the quintessential Batwoman story.

[@TheVetoSkreeemer]

One could question if that is the only great Batwoman story

[@OfficialMrShade]

What I heard is that Batwoman and the original Batgirl were created in the 1950's. Frederic Wertham started this war on comic books which almost killed the whole industry. Comic books needed to change to please Frederic Wertham. The main "problem" was that Batman and Robin could be seen as having a gay relationship which. Thus Batwoman and Batgirl were created to counter this. The cool thing is that Batwoman is now written as Lebian. I love that kind of Irony.

[@matthewsadlier647]

Batwoman is a total badass. I would put her in my fantasy Justice League.

[@tonybcamara]

See I know some people don't like it but I like the fact that she is related to Bruce. I am close to my cousins and a few of them to me is like a brother or sister. Never understood there weren't more family introduced instead of just parents and siblings. Cousins, uncles and aunts, etc... are still family. Great video thank you for the Batwoman explanation she was one of the few characters I don't know a lot about.

[@wadepietersen7307]

Rob didnt do hs iconic "and yyyeeeeeaaahhh...." at the end... lol Been a fan for quite a while so Its hard not to notice, especially since i watch this channel and Comicstorian kinda religiously :-D amazing work once again Rob, thanx for an awesome experience everytime and yeeeaaaaaahhhhh.... catch u in the next vid..... peace ;-)

[@TevyaSmolka]

I love bat woman she's so awesome and badass

[@pam869shut834]

Yoo Rob! Any plan on making a "Captain Atom explained" video? Became very interesting in learning more about him after your injustice vids

[@mistermeatcake1785]

pam869shut834 good idea

[@ojinrvk]

Yeah, that is a good idea. I remember him from back when he was in the JLA (or was it JL Europe?) back in the 90s, but that's the only frame of reference I have for him.

[@capedduo2592]

would be a great time aswell. The mini series "the fall and rise of capt atom" has just started.. so lets hope so :)

[@firetarrasque4667]

ImIm all for it. Here a cool, underutilized character who deserves some hype.

[@balek4205]

pam869shut834 hopefully we'll get something with Dr Manhattan and Captain Atom together

[@belishhill4013]

Watched this video after CWTV announced that they were doing their new crossover event in Gotham, with a guest appearance from Batwoman. Had to get some Rob Knowledge. Cheers!

[@Borderlines]

Is there a "who is black canary?" Video yet? I find her intriguing after watching her injustice 2 gameplay vid

[@tae523]

Lp Alcantara lol

[@Carnun2112]

I've been collecting Batman comics for over 30 years. I liked when Detective Comics actually had the investigative process in stories. Having a Bat-family on the periphery is okay, but, try as I might I never felt crazy about this incarnation of Batwoman.

[@VAULT-TEC_INC.]

The number of villains who know Batman's true identity and/or where his base of operations is located is getting out of hand.

[@andytaps4101]

batwoman is my favorite of the bat-family besides batman lol.

[@J91012-]

Is it just me or does batwoman have joker white skin

[@nobodyinterestingyou]

Yeah she almost looks like a vampire when In full get up.I don't know If It's just a stylistic choice when they're drawing her or she really does put a lot of make up before suitin' up,but It's quite jarring at time.I don't know how to feel about It.I guess It differentiate her enough of batman and batgirl,that way?

[@PCJ95]

J910 1 she puts on makeup and a wig to hide her identity. She's got normal skin and short hair when she's not suited up.

[@Facade953]

nobodyinterestingyou She looks SO hot!She has a dark and gothic charm!I would let her bite me any day!!!

[@TheVetoSkreeemer]

Unless rebirth changed it, the White skin is just for art purposes

[@hivemind8927]

she just has pale skin. it a natural occuring thing. look at paige

[@Evilmonkey1900]

Can't wait for more injustice! But, I do love some batman stories!

[@kamenwaticlients]

She wants to end war. She must be a part of Celestial Being.

[@king_big_pp]

Rob!! Please take a look at DC's Flintstones comic. It is absolutely brilliant, hilarious, and horrifyingly real at times. I'd love for you to make a video on it, just to share it with your fans. But at the very least, I hope you take a look because it is CRIMINALLY underrated.

[@marcino457]

I love your channel Rob. I'm a big comic book fan, yet I have very little time to buy and read any. Your videos are great substitutes. Also you delve into some more obscure backstories and point out facts or references I would never catch on my own. Thanks for doing this!

[@jamimuhammad3699]

Thank you Rob i know nothing about batwoman

[@omegahtv6779]

great video Rob!

[@randomfoo777]

Batwoman, she can make the best grilled cheese sandwich... with prep time

[@zgiov7576]

Shut the fuck up

[@lilstarxo4483]

randomfoo777 She can make grilled cheese and kick your ass with the same frying pan xD

[@tylerclausen9128]

Thanks Rob! So glad I'm part of the RobCore!! Could you do the Catwoman arc, too?

[@tri3183]

Tyler Clausen How is it youtube says your comment is 3 days old when this vid was just uploaded? 😕

[@tylerclausen9128]

Tri Vegan I'm not sure why that is.

[@iggsGH]

When is the next injustice video dropping? I've read them all but love your videos...

[@sxexbxaxs]

Easy to follow, well done video

[@Hermes_is_alive]

Rob please more injustice. ive read them all but your vids are so awsome!

[@lachronic7821]

Thanks for this, I'm writing and your videos help.

[@Chandasouk]

YEAH! Can't wait for her new solo series!

[@darkside9020]

Batwoman was mainly brought in during the 50s because of seduction of the innocent and Kate Kane and Betty Kane were brought in to give Batman and Robin love interests. An updated version was introduced in 52 with a lot of her origin introduced subsequent to that.

[@T2ThAdAwG]

Rob!! Do a Sandman explained!!! Such an iconic comic line!!!

[@justincarlbrown1]

WE NEED TO SEE HIS BAT WING SUIT !!! IMMEDIATELY !!! Bat Wing AKA Lusicious Fox Jr. swooped and saved Bat Woman when she was knocked unconcious in a matter of minutes????? on episode 2 Why didnt they show him in his outfit yet. he admitted to saving her. but you only see him as luscious fox's son.

[@Dahmere]

Not a huge Batman fan..., but Batwoman is a whole other thing!

[@waveunlimited5930]

Black Zone Comics how do u not like batman. Bat woman is just another lesser version of batman

[@ted1995art]

the art in this looks goood.

[@ShadyRedSniper]

So far, I've only bought Batman and Detective comics. Have enjoyed both.

[@roberthoward5015]

Fine job sir

[@j.chanslor8221]

Play at half speed for drunk rob. ;)

[@malcolmalex8745]

I fucking actually lol'd

[@dlvnmedia]

i really love this Batwoman. i hope that she and Bats are still working together after all of this

[@hamzarashid8055]

when you're early and don't know what to say😞😞😞

[@kiyavance]

Hamza Rashid don't say anything you attention hungry bitch

[@firetarrasque4667]

At least he didn't comment "don't reply" then get mad at the replier and say you don't want notifications. Yeah really.

[@nathandyoung5221]

Hamza Rashid got anything to say now dude? like um ..thanks rob

[@Slaterybooker]

I want a Batfleck vs. Batwoman movie so bad!

[@DiligentFingers]

Hey rob you should make a RobCore or Quick Fast and In A Hurry T-Shirts! I would buy both! Great videos!

[@leekatpants9879]

New Kate Kane is amazing.

[@alexcampbell7057]

Ha ha ha more please.

[@DaleMaloneMusic]

I must admit that I was a HUGEE Batwoman fan. I thought the art style was spectacular but as a batfamily fan I HATED how she was constantly interlinked with supernatural enemies. It was as if she was the Buffy the Vampire Slayer of the bat family and I never thought it made much sense. The whole point of the bat family is they're normal people who usually fight on a much smaller scale. I always wish she had more detective-based, grounded storylines BUT I'm so happy what they're doing with her in Rebirth. I hope the art style is similar to that of the detective comics Batwoman Begins story arc.

[@cmbaz1140]

like this batwoman the most

[@geronslevinful]

Rob who do you think would win in a fight between Batwoman and Nightwing?

[@dazdavis7896]

Batman: Zero Year was so epic... That is the "canon" start to Batman that I go by... D.O.T.F./Endgame and Zero Year were some of the best Batman stories of all. Ever. Scott Snyder is so good it's not even funny. And James Tynion is like his protégé so to speak, he's completely awesome too, and Detective Comics is showing that, It's my second favorite title in all of Rebirth behind Superman.... and I mean Batman knows this is his family his own cousin so I don't rly think she KNEW she was meant to be infiltrating Batman, she didn't know that was her father's Endgame behind him "training" her.... she didn't know any of that until they found out HE was the head of the colony. And she IS his family, she's not the closest thing he HAS to it, she IS it, she's his first cousin. Any closer relation and she'd be his sister. It's his uncles daughter. His moms brother.

[@theshadowcatcher4721]

Awesome.

[@MyMag77]

Now i want a story with Batman, Batwoman & Superman,Supergirl

[@jerooo420]

Do Dennis O'neil and Denys Cowan run on The Question it's an obscure run but really good it features Batman and Green Arrow also a dream segment with Rorschach in it.

[@deviousj5868]

Who'd win in a fight? Batwoman or Mother Panic? I'd love to see Mother Panic crossover.

[@sulthanfatah7802]

oh!! that or maybe iVampire.. hehe I.. i just wanted to see you cover comics drawn by andrea sorentino again

[@kairon156]

I wonder if she'll have her own version of Catwoman. perhaps Tigerman or something.

[@thomask.4532]

I liked Simon Samuels in this! It would be great if he became a superhero/villian/antihero of his own like Red Hood!!

[@dequanndillard2794]

I don't remember receiving a notification on this video and I always get notification a from rob

[@tri3183]

Dequann Dillard KZbin is showing your comment is three days old somehow.

[@dequanndillard2794]

Tri Vegan Yeah I think rob just uploaded this video t9 the batman rebirth playlist instead of youtube as a whole honestly. because I did post this comment 3 days ago.

[@tri3183]

Dequann Dillard And here I was thinking you're just VIP and get everything early because you're the Hal Jordan of the Robcore 😂

[@dequanndillard2794]

Tri Vegan that would be cool lol.

[@jestmunsta8288]

Well, Rob, you got most of it. Since the New52 & Rebirth, I'm sure scrapping Greg Rucka's initial Batwoman is somewhat still intact. Rucka left pretty good nuggets behind for anyone to take the mantle. Williams and Blackman tried to write a fantasy/supernatural thing w/ Batwoman which had it's mishaps but it was an attempt to make the character her own and away from the Bat-family which was a mistake. From what I've read, Batwoman will become more of an international character in her own book. This could work, but the setting for me is too big for a character that has only as Kate Kane has a 10 year history compared to Batman's 75 years of history. We need more character building in Gotham which Tynion is doing swell at. We still know very little which is great, but not enough to expand her widely internationally. I believe Batwoman's setting should remain specific and controlled. Her mission or motivation is "war on war?" The slogan itself is too abstract and unrealistic. I liked Rucka's tagline for her which was "I'm no victim" shown in the image at 5:12. Of course, no one wants to hear that but they could have picked a better slogan than "war on war." I see Kate Kane as a changing variable that creates new outcomes in dire situations. In most wars, that's how a lot of them are won in variables. ! She is no James Bond, her character is specific. It feels like they want to make her a spy. A superhero crime-thriller is not a bad idea, but the theme has to be solid and believable which means almost becoming a little too political. Sometimes, becoming a little too dead on the nose for some people. I"m interested in where Marguerite Bennett will take it. Plotting has to be good and tight to tell this kind of story. Rob, thanks for taking the time to do this issue of Batwoman Begins. For some fans like me, it was a snore and a bit too much plot dialogue which Tynion does at times suffer from in his writing.

[@me27687]

When it's time but you don't have a watch....

[@DavidoffProductions]

Really interesting storyline

[@FortheLoveofJudy]

She had a Detective Comics run before new52, by Greg Rucka and J H Williams III. A great run that span out of Batman RIP, when Bruce was lost in time. That run was a bit better than the new52 stuff.

[@jeremycline9542]

Love Kate Kane.

[@furyberserk]

Please do something on Batgirl. As it stands, I understand every batfamily's motives and drives besides Tim Drakes, which I'm kind of getting and Batgirl who by my account, just wants to help her father and is the most lack luster I can find so far. I need someone to correct me or give me a reason to like her character. Right now, I like her more as Oracle.

[@CynderSpirit]

Barbara never really did have a good reason for being Batgirl, Barbara was a teenage girl looking for a thrill and a fantasy when she started, she may had a better reason for being Oracle and maybe now as Batgirl, but not at first. I don't dislike Barbara, but at the same time I find her to be very judgemental and hypocritical of other people, especially to new members who join the Bat Family (especially other female members). Which is why (I understand it's a different universe from Rebirth) I hated her character in Batman Beyond series as she became a bitter, old woman who blamed Bruce and everyone else around her for becoming Batgirl for every misfortune that had happened to her and often took her grudge out on Terry.

[@bowdownORbringthawar]

Robb can you explain or have a vid on the best runs on Detective and Action comics up until Rebirth?

[@waveunlimited5930]

Srry rob ur wrong on a few points. Kane's bat army is made so each person could be a batman army but tht they liked the way batman had a hold on his city and how he kept it in check except for a few points. They also didn't take his tech. They stole super villain tech. If u read nightwing and the outlaws u see KGB finds their arsenal. And also he trained his daughter to replace batman when they would remove him.

[@PoodieNeutron]

Batwoman is awesome. Marvel writers need to read detective comics.

[@mistermeatcake1785]

could you maybe do hulk season one? it looks really interesting

[@kennethmartin8715]

would love to meet the person well versed in batwoman lore....

[@John93965]

She's like Black Widow dressed as Batman.

[@JokersVsZombies]

He didn't mind his surroundings...

[@darkmindaustin]

I am becoming a bit underwhelmed by the stories dealing with the Bat-Family since the last one you posted. Nightwing is fun, he is his own story, not really Bat Family anymore, but this makes -two- members of the bat family, with ambiguous or outright hostile to Batman goals. This makes it a bit easy fodder to see where it is going. It almost feels like they are trying to pull a Hydra Captain America thing here.

[@revenshee]

Batwoman Rebirth, Detective Comics Rebirth Vol 4, nor any new DC Rebirth comics for that matter are retconning Batwoman's New 52 stories. The writers of Batwoman Rebirth stated as such, although its not a surprise since DC has tried to avoid retcons and continuity errors since the New 52. They are just showing the times before and in-between the stories told in her New 52 run of comics, so all the stuff established in the New 52 comic run of Batwoman is still cannon. As a fan of the New 52 Batwoman comics I'll be picking up Batwoman Rebirth to see how it turns out.

[@YoMamaBih]

Hello Rob, I'm fairly new to the comic scene. For the longest time, I've been seeing scans of the Bat Family together (I.E. Batgirl, Batwoman, Jason Todd). Given their individual backstories and differing personalities, this intrigues me to a great degree. Unfortunately, not only do I not know where to start reading, but I don't know what comic this takes place in. Given the quality of the art within those scans, I could only assume that it was within the New 52. Could it be Batman Incorporated, or something else? Anyway, I would love for you to make a video going over the Bat family and how they essentially became a team. (For reference, within one of those scans I saw, Bat Woman took a crack at Jason Todd upon first meeting him.)

[@qchroniclesmca6240]

Make a Blackest Night explained plz

[@retrohero09]

My problem with the new 52 batwoman comics like the rest of the batman comics is they try to carry over things from pre-flashpoint, hen told us thawe should magically forget anything ever happened and it all in the past. For me Batwoman became a major player during battle for the cowl and was super important during batman inc. new 52 she doesn't serve much of a purpose anymore because they jerry rig batman into everything to try and sell books. For a while she was taking on worldwide terrorism, and in my opinion she should have been the lead on the leviathan arc with the rest of the family supporting her.

[@1701Rafael]

I had no idea she was related to Bruce.

[@krono5el]

Barrows is wicked good

[@JODA93]

Can you talk about the progress of Luke Skywalker's growth in the force in the comics, once we get closer to the beginning of Empire? From what I know, Luke's progress was show when he used the force to retrieve his lightsaber in the wampa cave. I hope they don't ruin the series by giving him powers we know he should not be able to use until after he meets Yoda at the very least.

[@kylehasstyle138]

Does rob drink water when he speaks throughout the videos or does he just talk straight through

[@ericking870]

could you do the comic book one i forgot whats it called but batman fights the predator

[@OBIONEBARRONI]

Hey Rob I've been asking for a wile and I know it's an odd request - but do you think you can review the comic "Britt"? It's another Kirkman creation. Thanks Rob!

[@eddieZDI]

Rob, any chance of you ever covering Green Arrow: The Longbow Hunters?

[@sulthanfatah7802]

hey rob, do you have any intention of doing the comic series where batman fights the justice league from the new 52??

[@protoomega7]

anyone want to see rob do a live reading of kingdom come? i sure do.

[@CNFunnyJon]

So Mr. Kaine... Red Hood does not kill people?

[@Kallelinski]

I don't know why exactly, but I really dislike Batwoman (her appearance/look is great, but her character itself...), maybe because she strikes me as a genderbendered Batman, which she isn't, I know that, but I guess you can't like every character, it's just a shame that reading the 'tec comic isn't as enjoyable as it should be, sadly. So I hope that she kinda leads this new team in the far future, while Batman can do something else, with others. I am a fairly new reader, just started months ago with the Rebirth titles and then read older comics (new52 stuff) and especially Batman (even the older than new52 stuff). So when I started to read Detective Rebirth, I was looking for more Batman stories, since Batman Rebirth, the solo title, is focussing a lot on its life recently, which is fantastic to be honestly. I also skipped through the next issues at dc wikia and it looks like Batwoman and the team are going to stick for a while, well, can't love every comic. Guess I have to wait a bit more before that changes at all.

[@Durakken]

Kathy Kane and Kate Kane are different characters. Kathy Kane is Batwoman I from the late 50s/early 60s. Kate Kate is Batwoman II that was introduced with a 5 issue mini series. And Kate Kane worked with Bette Kane as Bat-Girl who later became Flamebird. Barbara Gordon was introduced in the late 1960s as Batgirl. Further Kathy Kane is Bruce Wayne's Aunt, married to an Uncle on his mother's side. Bette and Kate Kane are also related to Bruce Wayne as cousins, but we're not sure exactly that the relationship is. ------------- The whole "Batwoman is awesome" is complete bullshit in accordance with everything we know about the DC world. No matter how good her natural talent is she should be nowhere near the fighting capabilities of any of the others in the Batfamily. And she isn't smart enough to figure out that Batman is Bruce Wayne nor is Batman that stupid nor would he actually walk with said limp, So yet another bad Batwoman comic v.v

[@tkka3250]

Batwoman, I don't trust her lol. Rob- cover Evil Ernie so that can come back already revamped correctly!!!

[@TowDow3]

superman isn't a metahuman. he's an alien so there's no way that he would along with supergirl, wonderwoman MM Redtornado superboy captain atom would get effected by something meant to change humans. you cant be human if your alien, robot, or just pure energy.

[@davongriffin2898]

Batman who laugh not Scared to kill somebody

[@francoisebola330]

Can you do catwoman explained

[@sushilneupane8068]

talking bout she the only one in the bat family that kills haha he must not know who Jason Todd is lol

[@hlovell852]

Are you going to cover Monsters Unleashed?

[@aztectlaloc7577]

Rob who is a stronger practitioner of magic, doctor fate or strange?

[@SuperShanko]

The one thing I know about her is that Superman killed the shit out of her in Injustice.