Developing a Model of Islamic Psychology & Psychotherapy - Abdallah Rothman: Tea Over Books

The new book, entitled Developing a Model of Islamic Psychology and Psychotherapy - Islamic Theology and Contemporary Understandings of Psychology, recognises the need for psychotherapeutic approaches that accommodate and acknowledge the healing that religious and spiritual beliefs offer. It explores psychology from an Islamic paradigm, demonstrating how Islamic understandings of human nature, the self, and the soul can inform an Islamic psychotherapy.
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0:00 Introduction
1:10 Impetus for the book
10:12 Why are you passionate about Islamic Psychology
16:42 How did Malik Badri influence your thinking?
19:47 What does this book mean for mental health and practitioners of Islamic Psychology?
27:55 Does this apply to non-Muslims?
34:06 What did Malik Badri mean by Islamisation?
39:58 Why is it important to have knowledge of the self?
46:58 What do you hope for the future of Islamic Psychology?
53:30 How does a therapist differentiate between accepting the client and not allowing them to harm others?
56:30 Should we create an evidence base for Islamic Psychology?
59:39 What are success stories combining Islamic and other approaches such as Cognitive Behavioural Therapy?
1:05:28 How do you overcome spiritual bypassing in Islamic Psychotherapy?
1:13:36 Does this model apply the same for children?
1:18:57 In other talks you have referenced the Jedi aspirant from Star Wars, Can you talk about how that is relevant?
1:24:40 How do we bring Islamic Psychotherapy into the mainstream?
1:28:36 Final Thoughts
About the Author:
Dr Abdallah Rothman is the Principal of Cambridge Muslim College, founder of Shifaa Integrative Counseling and co-founder and Executive Director of the International Association of Islamic Psychology. He has also held the position of Visiting Professor of Psychology at George Washington University, Zaim University Istanbul, International Islamic University Islamabad and Al-Neelain University Khartoum.
A Licensed Professional Counsellor (LPC), Dr Rothman has over 15 years’ experience as a counselling psychologist working with individuals, couples and youth in a variety of settings. In addition to Islamic psychotherapy, he is trained in other methods of therapy including Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, Gestalt Therapy, Art Therapy, and Spiritual Counseling.
His clinical practice and academic research focus on approaching counselling from within an Islamic paradigm and establishing an Islamic theoretical orientation to human psychology that is grounded in the knowledge of the soul from the Islamic tradition. Combined with his knowledge of different spiritual traditions and his own experiences as a convert to Islam he is able to relate to and support people from different spiritual backgrounds.
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[@JaefarSABNW]

Psychology was always one with religion till modern times. To bring psychiatry back into religion safeguards the consciousness and body more. To bring psychology back into religion connects development, repair, states, and stations back into religion gives them greater transpersonal purpose and gives a sense of importance to everything we can choose; which is of eternal importance for the individual.

[@IsmailAbdulMusic]

I learned something from this. I always say definitely be a thinking person, but don't go into thought overload, you'll go into deep space

[@nadajawad2891]

Mashalla, this field is urgently important to include in psychotherapy and psychological treatment. I am a practicing pharmacist in Canada and I everyday I witness the suffering of patients with psychological and mental health. Brother Abdullah , May allah swt bless you and your family for your efforts in this field of treatment.The core of the Quran is to guide our souls and treat our Nafs towards the righteous path. Without the spiritual part of treatment, mediations alone is not enough or not complete . I am very interested in investing my time in this field it’s a true treatment for our daily struggling with Nafs and it’s health issues. Definitely will apply for Cambridge Online diploma in Islamic Psychology and Psychotherapy.

[@umibrahimibrahim4966]

Dr. Abdullah was mentored by Prof. Badri A Sudanese psychologist. His wife is also Sudanese. He's amazing Jewish convert.

[@sidmehere2964]

The west just replaced it with pharmaceuticals

[@mkay187]

He's not a jewish convert, he grew up in a secular fam according to one video.

[@hashh2019]

@@mkay187 but he has jewish roots/ethnicity even if not practicing.

[@sujjad]

Give link of his channel

[@syepha_alhabshee]

Such an inspiration, this gives me so much hope of why am I pursuing psychology postgrad. We just can't separated human being with spirituality. I hope Islamic Psychology will be practiced as we preached any other Psychology or Social Science branches. InsyaAllah 💕💕💕

[@Zenigma217]

SubhanAllah MashaaAllah how the Islamic paradigm has progressed. It was back in early 1990s that I needed therapy and there was not much being offered in the secular or Islamic environment. I started to read all the self help books and found WOW this is all based on religions and also found commonality with Islamic advice! I wanted to study psychology and be a psychologist with Islamic knowledge but I didn’t have the Islamic sciences knowledge and I didn’t pursue. Alhamdullilah I started to study Islamic sciences but then didn’t continue the secular psychology course! Alhamdullilah the merging of secular psychology with Islamic psychology is now happening. But sadly there are too many so called muslim ‘coaches’ out there today who have no qualification or grounded knowledge of either topic.

[@cerisierenfleurs5966]

Wonderful presentation. Islamic psychology is urgently needed. Looking forward to reading the book !

[@karimb972]

JazakAllahou khair for a beautiful interview.

[@asmaa603]

Masha Allah, thank you for this talk. Very true about trying to fit secular knowledge to our Islamic practice. Gives us insight and grounding even as non practitioners for spiritual heart and soul. I pray this develops further. Ameen

[@juxtapositionMS]

They don't practice what they preach.

[@ilhem7532]

Sorry but this setting is not Islamic meaning not something which pleases Allah swt or his messenger. This is dangerous- to normalize this. Its not Islamic, period. Dont think you are trying to look 'civilized' by doing this. Following the teachings of Islam IS the epitome of civilization.

[@zalishaabdool7030]

WHAT A WONDERFUL TEACHER!! THANKS SIR!!.. YOU'RE AMAZING!! 👏 💖

[@farhadchowdhury5794]

This is an amazing lecture and he Q and A answered so many questions that I had. There is a pragmatic nature to spirituality that I always felt was missing.

[@koroglurustem1722]

Subhanallah, I am learning a lot from Dr Abdallah Rothman

[@khalidyzai9476]

Whole psychology what Freud, Adler and others dwelled on in more than a century can be assimilated or already been defined in Al Ghazali's one sentence... Outstanding job.. 👍

[@DarioHaruni]

There used to be a scholar named Hasan Tahsin who also an Albanian of Chameria (I'm also and Albanian of Chameria, that's why I have double pride for this man). He lived during the Ottoman Empire and he wrote the first Turkish language treatise on psychology titled "Psychology or Ilm ar-Ruh", a work influenced by modernism and the first book whose title contained the word 'psychology'; the word is written in ottoman alphabet.

[@suraiyakasim]

Is Hasan Tahsin's book available to in English?

[@DarioHaruni]

@@suraiyakasim I don't think so. I barely found it in Albanian.

[@DarioHaruni]

@@suraiyakasim The book I have has the original text in Ottoman language and the translation in Albanian language. It also has a summary in English.

[@user-ge5he1hd2r]

Can I find it in English or Arabic ?

[@DarioHaruni]

As far as I know the works haven't been translated in any other language besides Albanian. Now that I think of it, I might go ahead and translate it. It's like reading the Ghazali of Europe.

[@sugaboss]

Extraordinary presentation, thank you for sharing

[@lolladegrace2529]

Masha Allah.. ❤✨

[@saimmehmood6936]

SubhanAllah - may Allah preserve him!

[@MuhammadAli-hr1bj]

Ma'sha'allah, truly amazing cutting edge knowledge accessible to the masses.

[@hbapteltd6568]

Malaysia Malaysia news p 00))) ll) l)) on

[@ilhem7532]

Sorry but this setting is not Islamic meaning not something which pleases Allah swt or his messenger. This is dangerous- to normalize this. Its not Islamic, period. Dont think you are trying to look 'civilized' by doing this. Following the teachings of Islam IS the epitome of civilization.

[@MuhammadAli-hr1bj]

@@ilhem7532 OK Mufti!

[@edushare5107]

Masnya allah. Beautiful talk. Very inspiring. This is what I looking for a long time the topic of islam and psychology. Love from Indonesia

[@khaledyousef9997]

May Allah reward Abdallah Rothman and all the staff and students of Cambridge Muslim College with the highest level of Paradise❤

[@nooradeen2333]

Great interview mashallah!

[@GaZeBoW429]

Is there any way this could be added into the Podcast please? Would love to listen whilst on my commute

[@zubeydesisman6989]

I’m very disappointed by reading comments here. People talking about the ladies appearance without any shame. Even thinking they have right to do that for the sake of religion. How ignorant point of view it is.

[@DesertVox]

An analogy for the suitability of Islamic psychology and psychotherapy to non-Muslims as recipients would be that of the riba-based system vs the Islamic non-riba based system. You don't have to be a Muslim to benefit from it.

[@F.N_NOORZAI_]

As a Muslim girl and struggling with some difficult times (emotional breakdowns), I was thinking of an Islamic psychologist, but in my place, it is impossible. But I was thinking maybe there is no Islamic psychologists while every religious person is talking about Imaan and giving you even more tough times by saying that your Imaan is weak.

[@rachidelouafi6221]

I can't wait to see what's inside this book , we should call mental illness spiritual sickness ; according to my experience, most of us actually do our own islamic psychotherapy without knowing it by reading Quran, salat ,Th'ikr or duaa. I'm dealing with anxiety problems and the breading technique is excellent for it , inhale deeply hold and say "la illaha illa Allahu wahdahu la sharika lah lahu almulk wa lahu alhamd wa huwa 3ala kuli shay'in khadeer " then exhale with a force from within . I'm also dealing with bipolar schizophrenia which I use Ruquia Sharya (islamic healing) sessions for my psychotic periods . We definitely should revive : Attib Alnabawi of our beloved prophet (saw) including Hijjama and Aroma therapy . I'm glad to see "knowledge of the self " introduced to western psychology but the problem is : will they acknowledge the soul ?

[@ubaydah_i]

Would heredity chemical imbalances in the brain count as a spiritual sickness?

[@rachidelouafi6221]

@@ubaydah_i The chemical imbalance theory is disproven according to researchers in this field but you'll be amazed by what the unseen word is capable of.

[@umibrahimibrahim4966]

Salam Dr. Abdullah. Regards from VA Enas Badri

[@sujjad]

ALHAMDU LILLAH... TO LISTEN THESE GREAT PEOPLE

[@fhfh-ix4ps]

.Hello, please can you tell me what the arabic stated in the start is? and what does it mean?

[@mansooraqureshi2696]

Unveiling the depths of human psychology,needs free-frank insights into Human Conditioning n Human Endurance.There is lot in Islamic philosophies n Fiq that give indepth understanding of basic human nature n human fragility that can easily fall prey to modern day socio- economic pressures with the acute technological onslaught that has engulfed humanity with gusto,eventually taking toll on one's wholesome well-being whether you like it or not. Self knowlege is the first tool to cushion body n soul from this invasion of a kind......Street Mulas are no answer to such issues,one needs scholarly help and approach. In mental issues ,it is the gruelling soul pain n that is wickedly huge. .....Thank you for this discussion,it sheds light as to how .....seek the moral n spiritual help,guidance to save the wholesome damage that can happen in ignorance, unawareness or overindulgence of sorts for needs,desires of unbridled greed.

[@mahmudakhan4996]

For Non Muslims who may not consider themselves as " slaves of the Creator" Dr Rothman is apparently saying that we all have a conscience. NonMuslims will try uplift their souls or their inner beings to the level where their conscience KNOWS they are being uplifted Mimi

[@DesertVox]

Atheistic psychology and psychotherapy is bound to be lacking, and it's recourse is to cover it up with medicational abuse. That's what denial of the Creator and the Unseen leads to, inevitably. Hence, the phenomena of 'opioid epidemic' or 'alcoholism', and their collateral damages in terms of vehicular accidents, policing, the judiciary resources that are overwhelmed with dealing with these damages. Islam reduces the compounding complexity of a flawed psychological approach by including the Unseen into the equation.

[@noorkhadim844]

Very true. When I was in atheistic counselling, I realised it is like a 2D shape - no matter how hard you look at it there will always be a dimension missing. Yes, if you mention your faith to them then they can try to accommodate that in their counselling, but they can never know just how powerful iman is in a person. So the only realistic way of healing fully is by adding that 3rd dimension (iman) which inshaa Allah CMC will be at the forefront of.

[@noorkhadim844]

Also, I agreed with your responses to the brother about the sister in the video, may Allah preserve her, but let's just agree to disagree with him and move on inshaa Allah 👍

[@shabirvalli8604]

Wow!

[@behiyeerbey4534]

How can we take this book?

[@CambridgeMuslimCollege]

You can purchase it here - www.routledge.com/Developing-a-Model-of-Islamic-Psychology-and-Psychotherapy-Islamic-Theology/Rothman/p/book/9780367611507

[@behiyeerbey4534]

@@CambridgeMuslimCollege thank you

[@abdullahahmad9300]

Is rotman a convert? Is he english??

[@noorkhadim844]

Yeah I believe he used to be Jewish

[@noorkhadim844]

It's so disappointing that what could have been a great lecture is overshadowed by this fitna of a comments section. Please people, stop reducing women to how she looks and if you feel a great need to pick up on this point, then give the naseeha to CMC email, not on a comments section! All this does is create fitna and backbiting. Allah knows best!

[@wafaabdullah2172]

However, criticism of Rothman' attempt to reconcile modern psycho-therapy is not fitna if the psychology being promoted is actually very harmful to Muslims.

[@noorkhadim844]

@@wafaabdullah2172 yes, I'm sure CMC are open to criticism about the actual content being presented.

[@karimb972]

Sad that so many brothers and sisters are not benefiting from Dr Rothman's words because they are focused on the host's dress. I say: scroll down or change windows and don't look. I don't care much for her dress either but why should I waste and lose this opportunity to gain knowledge from this amazing person because the sister's attire? May Allah forgive us all.

[@juxtapositionMS]

Dr. Rothman's work is about Islam. Isn't it? So why shouldn't he present it in an Islamic way? What knowledge will you gain from where Allah's command is violated. Not Islamic knowledge for sure.

[@karimb972]

@@juxtapositionMS I benefited immensly alhamdoulillah. You are the one that missed out because you couldn't get past the dress. I benefited by NOT LOOKING AND LISTENING. You confirmed my point and proved that your rigidity is a barrier to getting 3ilm. We all know that her dress is not the best but if you can't get past that and fixate on total outward compliance, you are losing out. The quality and truth of Dr. Rothman's words is not limited or corrupted by her dress.

[@juxtapositionMS]

@@karimb972 "Not the best"... I like your apologetic tone. Weak man mentality. Always hesitant to call out sins. Anyway, you can be benefitted from a non Muslim professor wearing bikini too. What's the difference? If someone is not practicing Islam while preaching it what does that make of her? Would you take your Islamic knowledge from such a person who doesn't practice it herself?

[@karimb972]

@@juxtapositionMS @Juxtaposition weak man? MachAllah! It didn't take long for you to start with the insults. Bikini? La hawla wa quwatta ila billah. You can't endure seeing a woman without a hijab and loose fitting garment and I'm weak? Making a fuss over a KZbin video makes you stronger?... Subhan Allah. You are strongly deluded and confused. The man is talking by the way in this video. Which proves that you didn't listen. But you're convinced that you don't have to because you're convinced that you have more Iman and taqwa then the rest of us because you couldn't help but pointing out the minor fault that we all noticed but that most of us prefered to ignore. We ignore it because it is not major. Because of Adab. Because we are a Umma of Mercy. The sin-calling champion you think yourself to be is just a fanatic zealot. Congratulations. You accomplished nothing... Aside from proving yourself to be just another rude judgemental self-righteous brother with a superiority complex.

[@juxtapositionMS]

@@karimb972 Giving up fard is minor fault? Do you get it how you are taking Allah's command lightly?

[@ancienthamatendiscipline3533]

I'm definitely in love with Dr Winter's. I disagree with sectarian dogma strongly, regardless of that I have nothing but honour, respect and deeply admire him. In a world vastly devoid of masculinity and leadership (رجولة), Dr Winter's is most certainly one who emanates the energy of masculine leadership (رجولة), which has nothing to do with gender.

[@TeaCoffeePro]

All those Muslims commenting on and judging a person's Deen and are too busy having hatred in their heart , go check yourself and your ego.

[@khalidhussein1597]

who are you to make comments on others. mind your business on other comments

[@TeaCoffeePro]

@@khalidhussein1597 thank you for proving my point

[@ellagardener538]

Absolutely right.

[@shabirvalli8604]

@@TeaCoffeePro 🤣

[@juxtapositionMS]

That's what Islam is all about. Judging a person's deen and calling out her for tabarruj is actually helping her from hellfire if she listens. It's not from hatred, it's from the love for another Muslim. You are full of hatred towards others who call out her. A mutabarruja does not represent Islam, nor her supporters. If you are not shameful of your sins then you don't fear Allah at all, which is not Islamic and therefore you should not pretend to represent Islam.

[@DavidSmith-zl2ww]

One of the great difficulties with Rothman's attempt to 'reconcile' classical Islamic psychology with modern psycho-therapy lies in the fact that whereas the first relies on an objective cosmological hierarchy modern psycho-therapy, by contrast, is merely rooted in the indefinite variables and uncertainties of ordinary psychic experiences. Thus, the modern therapist is methodologically constrained by the false assumption that all mental phenomena are entirely comprised of 'subjective psychic experiences' and impressions much like his own. Since a modern therapist like Rothman assumes that 'everything' that relates to the mind is 'entirely subjective' it seems there is no objective way of knowing if any of his own pronouncements on therapy carry any objective validity. This error is manifestly dangerous if it assumes, as Rothman appears to argue, that 'only the psyche can treat the psyche' or even that modern psycho-therapeutic theories could find themselves questioning their own implicit assumptions to be coherent enough to be "reconciled" with the objective hierarchy of Islamic psychology. Clearly, modern psycho therapy does not come with any objective criteria which enables it to make any sense of the classical hierarchy of the Soul (nafs) as classically understood in Islam. As a result of this failure the classical context of Islamic psychology is forever lost to the modern therapist (like Rothman) who thereafter continues to confuse the divine origin of the soul with the everyday uncertainties of an ordinary psychic kind. Rothman's attempt to 'reconcile' the subjective fluctuations of the psyche (dreams, childhood experiences, fears, hopes, religious experiences) to the celestial movements of the Soul is therefore not merely a casual mistake but a much more serious and deeply flawed attempt to reduce the objective reality of the soul, as classically understood, to modern illnesses and psychological complexes of various kinds. If only the Muslim College were to invite a classically trained scholar to show how modern therapy tries to invert the Islamic concept of the Soul in order to make it "fit" or seem meaningful to post-modern psychological theories, then this task would be of the greatest value. The Muslim College and the community of Muslims will be better served once the errors of psychologism of Rothman and others are clearly identified. "Knowledge of self" according to Rothman is "physical" but this completely contradicts the Islamic concept of Al-Ruh which is fundamentally a spiritual substance. The real advantage of Islamic psychology lies in its independence of post-modern psychological paradigms with their very limited and circular understanding. Muslim psychologists like Al-Ghazali and Ibn Sina were providentially saved from trying to be reconciled with the dysfunctional nature of postmodern times or with any psychological theories which push (like Rothman) a highly subjective and problematic take on the real nature of the soul.

[@TheBusySleeper]

I think you are projecting your own opinions on the content of Dr. Rothman’s book and you don’t seem to have actually listened to him. I believe Muslim college has employed a number of highly qualified scholars. Dr Rothmans approach is based on sound Islamic foundations. He is not appropriating or trying to ‘reconcile’ with western psychology. Please watch 34:06 in the video where he explains this.

[@yabiggalla]

Please don't use US spelling given you are in Cambridge, UK. Eg, honoured, not honored.

[@juxtapositionMS]

Why these mutabarruja women think that they represent Islam by throwing away the wajibat that Islam asked them to fulfill?

[@nobody.6451]

what is mutabarruja ?

[@juxtapositionMS]

@@nobody.6451 Tabarruj is a woman's style of dress or attitude that is excessive in order to attract the attention of others when she comes out of her house, deliberately showing the beauty of her face and body. The woman who does it is called mutabarruja.

[@nobody.6451]

@@juxtapositionMS - subhanallah . What is strange is, when someone mentions the in-appropriation of her dress code, they then are quick to give “only God can judge her” talks . If so, then why not have them both speaking about Islam with her in a bikini and him in a singlet an short shorts ? It’s ridiculous .

[@nobody.6451]

​@@juxtapositionMS Subhanallah . Its almost a kind of arrogance, yet, they call us arrogant (and wahabi) if we tend to say something . Its unfair . If this was an non-muslim woman in an ordinary setting - fine . EVEN if this was a muslim woman in an ordinary setting - also fine . Yet, being that this is a Muslim woman, whom seems to be learned (spiritually and mentally) and on a Muslim worldwide channel being viewed by other Muslimahs ... then ... this is when it starts to get scary . The scariest part is when the institution itself (along with the sheikh) have not only accepted this, but peddle it . Subhanallah, may Allah forgive us if this is considered as backbiting - but this is truly not right . Highly confusing for our future ummah, women AND men . May Allah guide us onto the straight path I hope . May Allah guide us onto the straight path I hope . May Allah guide us onto the straight path I hope .

[@juxtapositionMS]

@@nobody.6451 You know what? I don't take these institutes as a source of Islamic knowledge. We have 1400 years of Islamic tradition which is full of hundreds of talented scholars. Islamic knowledge best suits when it is given in an Islamic environment. That's what the scholars of older days used to do. Do you think this kind of environment and set up where women come and talk with another man and show herself in this manner in front of thousands of viewers will deliver us any real sincere quality Islamic knowledge? A big NO. CMC is for liberal "Muslims". Not for sincere devoted Muslims. It is a form of entertainment- not anything as deen.

[@nobody.6451]

If you’re on the big screen, you’re claiming leadership (directly or indirectly) . So when an Islamic institute condone and promote a dress code, it leaves one totally confused . There’s a large amount of followers of this channel that accept this, so I ask with sincerity, please - for the next talk allow for a woman in a bikini and a man in short shorts to speak about Islam, then proceed to tell people to “lower their gaze if there’s a problem” .

[@TheBusySleeper]

What is your motivation behind these comments? What is important is that the interviewer has the credentials to hold the interview. What level they practice Islam is their own issue. It shouldn’t ban her from hosting this interview. May Allah guide us all.

[@RafiRafi-yo8vn]

Wahabis would find the immodest clothing of the woman

[@rh4282]

Is this women muslim?

[@sonbahar5296]

Yes, she is Muslim!

[@arkaazizul6673]

Overpriced

[@nobody.6451]

I ask with sincerity, please - for the next talk allow for a woman in a bikini and a man in short shorts to speak about Islam, then proceed to tell people to “lower their gaze if there’s a problem” . It’s saddening to see this from a Muslim Institute, especially when there are hadiths that speak against this . May Allah grant us forgiveness and sincerity .

[@propps2253]

It doesn't say tell people what clothes to wear, it tells you personally to lower your gaze. So Islam invites you to look inside you to watch your reactions not to judge somebody else if there is something you don't like to see. Even if a women is naked then is the question are we controlled by lust and do we see the women as a piece of meat or labels like calling names or can we see beyond that and to see that it's a human being. The path of controlling or telling what happends outside yourself you will never win because it's still happening.

[@nobody.6451]

@@propps2253 - this lower your gaze and don’t judge business is a little played out . It like if one were in a bikini, speaking about Islam - on tv - then we say ‘brother lower your gaze, don’t judge’ . It’s quite comical, and it’s turning into a form of arrogance (on your behalf and theirs) .

[@propps2253]

@@nobody.6451 like is said you can choose what you want i am not here to judge you, but isn't it sad that we become irritated or have a reaction to everything we don't like. And the question is did we choose to become irritated or angry or is it a kind of virus that takes us over. And for me it doesn't really work telling or controlling people what to do and then i will get angry if they don't listen and keep om going what they did and after 20 years i am still angry because they didn't listen? isn't islam a invite and not a book of forced rules to everyone? Aspects of Allah are compassion, mercy, love, love don't exclude anything, surrender to Allah and love does never say i don't like this but accepts everything in life pain, war, killings and women in bikini's. Or don't and get a reaction the next time, and the next, and after 20 years the same reaction, when the other option you can become free?

[@TheBusySleeper]

Every person is on their own journey and have their own struggle to contend with. We need to accept people as they are and pray for them. Stop cancelling people and engage in a dialog. Islam was not spread by harsh judgement and criticism. Not everyone is born into a traditional Islamic family. May Allah guide us all.

[@ilhem7532]

Sorry but this setting is not Islamic meaning not something which pleases Allah swt or his messenger. This is dangerous- to normalize this. Its not Islamic, period. Dont think you are trying to look 'civilized' by doing this. Following the teachings of Islam IS the epitome of civilization.

[@xorpe7172]

Woman with her hair exposed in front of an audience and camera beginning by sending Salaam upon the Prophet SAW. I’m not a scholar but I can have a basic enough understanding of my Deen to know that this is wrong.

[@DesertVox]

Everyone is at their own stage in their taqwa and subservience to the whole of Allah's commands for the inner and outer expression of Islam. Who knows, she might be on a higher level than you in other aspects that is not apparent to you. As long as she has and shows respect for and interest in Islam and Allah and his Messenger, she will be fine insha Allah. What is wrong and condemnable is when women who claim to be Muslims but are in open rebellion against Islam and its teachings, as we often see in Occupied Arabia and other Muslim countries, where the women who dress unislamically are doing so in a deliberate way to express their disdain for Islamic dress codes and Allah and his Messenger. Those are who you should worry about.

[@Drigger95]

@@DesertVox everyone is at their own stage of Taqwa, I understand. But she's being a host for a traditional MUSLIM college. She shouldn't be judged outside of that, but here she's acting as a representative of the college and it's simply not appropriate. Sadly disappointed.

[@xorpe7172]

@@DesertVox Pathetic response. I click on a video from Muslim Cambridge College to learn more about my deen and to receive a good example and instead I am faced with Haram. It’s like trying to learn Islam from a talker while he sips a beer. This is majorly unfortunate on her part as well as the co-host, the College, and all complicit.

[@DesertVox]

@@xorpe7172 Your duty as a Muslim is to LOWER your gaze. If everyone did more of that, and less of measuring the level of other ppl's taqwa when those ppl are clearly in support of Islam and show respect for Allah and his Messenger, Islam would do fine. Also, death to Wahhabism.

[@noorkhadim844]

@@xorpe7172 assalaamu alaykum. This is what happens when you judge a woman just based on how she looks. You clearly didnt even bother listening to what she had to say, just 'faced with haram' is all you have reduced her to. Hijab is not the only part of a woman's deen you know. Also, if you have a serious problem with this issue, maybe email CMC directly instead of writing in the comments, which doesnt help anyone.