Development Blog - New Ships For 13.9

[@Flamuu]

Those Yari torps look like absolute ebola to play against! Twitter: twitter.com/flamuchz Discord: discord.gg/Flamu Stream: www.twitch.tv/flamuu Insta: instagram.com/flamugram/

[@Con9359]

Also funny how a 1920's design bb, modernized in 1930 getting 1947 Torp Tubes... Guess the swedes just timetravel to get their technology 17 years earlier or something.

[@Flamuu]

It's fascinating how they're willing to use just about any advanced technology on ships and planes EXCEPT Anti-air and ASW, those are both from WWI. ASW is basic depth charges being dropped into the sea à la 1915 and Anti-air is basic optically targeted aerial gunnery à la 1914. Meanwhile we fight cold war jet planes and theoretical subs from the end of WW2.

[@Huzarionix]

@@Flamuu Oh Flamu I been visiting Sweden since mid 80" , and 18 years I live in Sweden , and Sweds are delusional enough to think they traveled in time ;)

[@strixaluco7423]

@@Flamuu The british started WW1 with the tatics of using a hammer against sub periscopes. WG just keeps upgrading the hammer. Who cares if during WW2 the allies already had radars for spotting aircraft that could detect subs even at periscope depth? But WG totally will find the plans for german subs that could drag V2 rockets behind them and launch those at the US coast. Perfect new premiums if you ask me.

[@bigpoppa1234]

@@Flamuu and fictional "ap skip bombs".

[@croskerk]

​@Flamuu Man if only we get sonar guided depth charges too Mk24 Fido mine, used in the 1940s and scored several kills Also may make the game a bit more complex but we should get FXN torpedo countermeasures (used in WWIi developed by the british and the US made their version from the brits). This was to counter G7e, T4 and other variants germany had. Obviously tune it a bit ingame and boom, a counter for sonar torps. Dunna how it'll work, rng seems to be Wargaming thing.

[@Gale0cerdocuvier]

The main reason I watch these devblog videos is not for what’s in the devblog, but rather how Flamu reacts to devblog. If it wasn’t for his responses, a video about WG’s plans for the game would be too enraging and depressing for me to watch.

[@smolwheat8266]

Guaranteed Yari players are gonna be even more braindead than current IJN CA players > Goes broadside > Launches torpedoes > Devstruck > Whine and complain I mean sure the torpedoes are ebola but if people just go broadside at 10km the ship is still gonna explode very quickly

[@Cryogen69]

>Devstrikes you back anyway

[@auditoriooo8078]

Azuma having more wr than yoshino, guess the key difference in the same exact design LOL

[@tosyl_chloride]

@@auditoriooo8078 Torps bring out the idiots who try to use them at all cost, regardless of the situation. It's kinda like a test for intelligence at this point

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

So a TL;DR for the new ships. Niord: A Swedish Prinz Rupprecht with a worse secondary armament, but with Halland torpedoes and good AA. Kalmar: Visby with the forward twin turret swapped for a single mount, but with better torpedoes. Yari: Zaō but with a turret removed and worse gun dispersion, but with more torpedoes. Lugdunum: (Possibly Belgian) Lyon copy-paste but made for brawling and a secondary battery focus. Teng She: Chinese Sinop copy-paste but with better long range accuracy.

[@furiousflan]

Copypaste intensifies

[@x_gipsy_danger_x5222]

Lugdunum was how Lyon was called in the past

[@x_gipsy_danger_x5222]

so yeah... even the name is a copy paste

[@mertc8050]

correction lugdunum: lyon copy paste with yamato turret traverse, worse ap, signifcantly less gun range, better reload, improved sec accuracy. in short it is a florida with 16 guns is the optimal gameplay.

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

@@x_gipsy_danger_x5222 Maybe it's for an hypothetical independent state of Aquitaine or something?

[@strixaluco7423]

"Cant sell maps" Flolo: "I know" WG: You underestimate my power! We are totally going to see maps you are only allowed to play if you have a premium account.

[@camerong.5989]

there arent enough players to do that

[@strixaluco7423]

Are you trying to argue with logic or reality against possible braindead WG plans?

[@simonedigiuseppe8758]

We used to have premium ports (Hawaii at first, then they put shipyard as premium port) so it wouldn't surprise me

[@Myomer104]

More like adopting the Tanks system of being able to ban maps, more if you have a premium account.

[@allensanders5535]

that's pretty sad when the art department is so lazy or incompetent that they cant even change the hull number on the nose of the ship. (Tennessee - New Mexico 44)

[@captainkreutzer3208]

Fun fact: With these we have nearly 20 copy paste ships or half copy pasted ships in testing. I haven't counted entirely new models. All of them are adjusted by big or bit but their base hulls are still there. Just amazing how lazy Art department is.

[@tsuaririndoku]

Seriously tho. Naval Art Community manage to make ships looks more unique than WG copypasta these days.

[@merobo5066]

So based on Lugdunum we can assume "European" now includes "what if the Roman Empire was still around"

[@theamazingmikej]

"Come out from your island and fight like a man!" - Every boomer brain BB main

[@ImRandomDude]

how to create weegee map: design a half, copy&paste, flip. done

[@thegreenfather1978]

If the torpedo and gun angles on Yari are as bad as on Zaou, the ship's probably gonna suck. It doesn't matter much if the torpedoes are individually broken, if you have to risk getting dev struck every time you want to use them. Case in point: Zaou already has a very strong torpedo suite, but no one calls Zaou a strong torpedo ship, because of how horrible the launch angles are. That's only a 3.5km window on a ship with a giant citadel and giant turning radius. Kitakami, which has way better launch angles, 4.1km of stealth window, super speed and exhaust smoke and is a tiny target, can already be rough to use effectively.

[@centereo1651]

Even a trebuchet has more range than Yari.

[@volknetai.3690]

Superior siege engine

[@kinu4087]

21:50 potatos: there is a ship farming me from behind an island, I don' have any counterplay against him... WG: TORP THE ISLAND potatos: brilliant.

[@Perguru]

New map ... Ocean .. now in east-west orientation ?

[@theflyingdutchmaniron3230]

Can't wait to TORPEDOOO in my Yari.

[@rogerwilco71]

I'm getting dizzy with all the new ships and gimmicks (not playing randoms anymore NA) and no new maps ....feels like it was a lot more fun playing in the Beta days with 2 lines -rock-paper-scissor style w/o subs and the old maps (oh wait, they still have those maps)

[@biznisman7049]

You should make a subaton just before school year begins. The last ride before everything becomes serious.

[@josynaemikohler6572]

At least Kalmar is actually historic.... In fact even much much more historic, than Visby we have in game. So i do not mind her. Visby class only has 3 guns...

[@SniPantsu]

we had 1 new map for t10 in 5 years

[@RetroletsplayGBA]

Maps don't make money unfortunately 💀 fuckin war gaming 😂

[@Myomer104]

I think a combination of the Torpedo Lookout System upgrade and the Vigilance captain skill will become popular, since you effectively have a permanent 2.25km hydro for torpedoes.

[@myopicautisticmetal9035]

To think I remember when Flamu was a young guy with life in him and excess rage to today he has grey sides above his ears and so relaxed!

[@shadowfox8748]

Stealth torp for a bb … that’s what the game needed

[@auditoriooo8078]

Not broken, iwami kii and Johan can do this and is still a last stand recourse

[@Stealthassin135]

A Rupperecht hull with stealth torping and 381mm guns that reload every 21s sounds kinda rad, ngl.

[@MrTrool323]

Guys... *Let's imagine these ships existed* Lesta has dumb ideas for ships but the EU Wee Gee isn;t far behind with the imagination

[@professionalantichristhate528]

At least Lesta has an art department, so all their fantasy ships aren't just copy paste.

[@Terrados1337]

"How are you supposed to brawl with this health pool" *cries in Odin noises*

[@sargisshirinyan207]

Devblog video on a Saturday afternoon - lets goooooooooo

[@kc9937]

Jerzi reload buff on the T5 might spicy.

[@tsuaririndoku]

Oh I forgot to mention. Tennessee on the picture have a wrong number. It should be BB-43 and not BB-44. Not sure WeeGee use California model for camo test or WeeGee doesn’t do a proper research on placing numbers now. First Depth Charges, then Skip AP Bombers, then name Tier X IJN Battlecruiser Bungo instead of naming her after Mountains of Japan and now Not even bother to research Battleship Numbers. Man WeeGee getting more and more Lazy overtime. I see people in Naval Art communities made Fantasy ships better that WG can do. Oh btw. Yari somehow is the only DD with Historical Accurate Type 93

[@volknetai.3690]

Due to many ships in this devblog are torpedo focus there is just a thing for me to say If you played Asia server the torpedo focus ships are hardly shine here because it almost impossible to reach people with torpedo, though 20km shimakaze is exception because that's as far as some BB range, Which they all extended using range mod. And people kiting away all the time so you will take like 5 minutes to start getting a good angle ( like you need 1/4 of a game to get to someone's side ) But if you can get to enemy's side your side of the map probably won and enemy will kiting away further. Delay your chance of getting good torpedo angle even more ( you would probably only spot the entire game at that point )

[@GrasshopperKelly]

0:16 Good news! WG had multiple 3D artist positions open on their website recently... No clue if that's for WoWS or not, but hey ho... Flamu aske for new artists xD

[@wombat4191]

Lugdunum looks like someone randomized some changes in weaponry for a Lyon copy, and then tried to come up with a coherent playstyle for it while not knowing how this game is played. The last part of course is not a surprise with WG.

[@mihaitha]

If course this is a "let's imagine", I can count on the fingers of one hand how many ships released in the past couple of years were not.

[@lubossoltes321]

Those Yari torps should be on the Yugumo and Shima ... Yugumo definitely ...

[@erwinrommel4747]

well time to get my broadside nuked to oblivion by Yari i guess😅

[@monkeysnark7043]

Yari torps have a curve effect, and will hit behind islands. 😮😂. 🤔Oh btw, I think Wargaming has hired experienced fictional storyteller writers, 🤓to describe their new ships.

[@nathansarchet9368]

Could be fun in the rumored T9 Operations mode.

[@kovacsj7823]

I think Seychelles was the newest map ? If new maps would be like just the same " quality " as that, then " no thank you " from me.

[@Wulfalier]

First IJN cruiser that its getting real Long Lance toprs

[@PaddyW_]

So today we learned that one plane is substantial. 😂

[@Tundraviper41]

Niords camo is pretty cool, ngl.

[@craigalexander966]

those Yari torps are masters of ninjitsu 😂

[@Arthion]

Niord seems slightly better than Karl Johan on account of having slightly less trash guns and Halland rather than Östergötland torps.

[@communisticus191]

What does the Niord do better than the Johan other than mobility and pen? Halland torps are actually a downgrade compared to Oster torps because they are easier to dodge due to having higher detectability in exchange for 15km range vs 13.5km

[@orhanmehmedov4588]

i like how f..k the def block :)))))))

[@Arhiman93]

God, i love the new ships devblog. I haven't played in years, but that's not stopping me 😂

[@SteelxWolf]

The Picardie at Tier 8 is a better brawler than the Lugdunum because it had a higher base range being Tier 8 lmao. WG is on some shit

[@sliceofcheese8360]

Siegfried is more of a BB than NIORD is lol

[@SmegHedd117]

Is WG EVER going to move out of the 1950's technology?

[@FlamingZombie626]

That EU DD is for seal clubbers

[@bulldog2000]

I'm sure the only way they ever actually change AA or ASW and make them effective is maybe when the game is about to die or super close to

[@jurkoskvarka2154]

It feels like the blogs are written by AI. It was fed some basic information and it halucinated up the rest. Typical chatbot behaviour. The only thing written by a human is that stat sheet.

[@janedoe4586]

why not give Niord full 1:1 halland AA on every side of the ship?

[@plichi87]

Yari is flat out a better kitakami?

[@rogerwilco71]

52:14 less life rafts, does that mean it's going to be more tanky?

[@eric-wb7gj]

TY🙏🙏

[@honoredstone9535]

At this point i woudln't even be surprised, if WG created torps, that phase shift through islands to hit targets behind them. We already have ww1 ships with cold war armament, why not ww2 ships with ww3 armament?

[@Chris-iv8sb]

When they say CVs will lose a lot of planes they mean average CVs will lose a lot of planes xdd

[@TheSaberra]

Are those Dev blogs generated by AI?

[@montanabigbeer650]

Speaking of new ships, no german T10 cruzier but hinden for what 7-8 years now,,,WG really shits on the germans.._)

[@mikesaporitojr3313]

24:53 detect turn eat torps

[@psknikalov5175]

Why WG really likes to create another torture ship like Lyon class so much, I wonder.

[@milleniumsword1558]

Those are Bismarck Guns not Rupprecht Guns......

[@quoniam426]

Niord seems to have BB armor instead of Battlecruiser armor, there is an additional side plate that the Rupp doesn't have. Having lighter guns would explain why she has the same HP as Rupp, because she has more side armor. Lugdunum, the Latin word for Lyon. Not very original, WG. They probably want to sell me that one since I play my Lyon secondaries style. Do not they check their blogs before posting them? I wish they made a pre nerf after super test Lyon with 20 km range and more precise guns... They are lying, my Lyon secondary oriented is also 9.5 km range, they give all identical stats. I bet they don't fire more often. I guess the only difference is their accuracy. Main turret traverse is the same. Trust me a brawling Lyon is good in ranked. Especially if DDs want to rush you, it works better in defense though since you are better in a kyting position. Lyon is a good base defender. So, having the same captain skills with better main gun precision and rate of fire would be bonus for my playstyle. Most of the Historical hulls have been done already, so from now on, it's either gonna be copy paste or completely made up.

[@1972typhoon]

Ha ha such an historycally accurate game!! Oh they always have an excuse "game balance".

[@ChungZon]

Yari will be more OP in my hand.

[@kc9937]

*moves life raft 10m* custom model

[@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll]

Fail. The correct name of the Norse god is "Njord" and not "Niord" in Swedish...

[@Allegroskate90]

They cut off rupprecht's balls

[@icopgaming]

Another *hit parade from World of Warships. It's painful to watch. Copy/Paste, constant and increasingly irritating gimmicks (magic spells), grotesque monetization, and no real effort from WG toward anything even remotely resembling balance. Still enjoy and appreciate your commentary and time, brother. But the game at this point... horrible.

[@gauthijm]

Cant sell maps true, but Flamu is right.. NA dying due to lack on interest ie no new maps Regards F

[@bobdole6768]

Bros going crazy over the Yari like the Jinan torps don't already exist

[@BattIeFrog]

Already aids enough playing kremlin and eating 60k unavoidable damage to the bow from subs every minute or two with their stupid torps, gonna be so much more enjoyable against those yari torps fr fr.

[@SteelxWolf]

Whats wrong with the graphics? I think the game looks fine. What bothers me is the laziness on a lot of premium camos of recent premiums/dockyard stuff. Lots of bland art

[@slip6699]

I think if you look at WoT you will see how far behind they are at updating the environment, maps and effects.

[@CMDRFandragon]

New ships, new collabs, but nothing that actually makes teh game more fun, like more modes, more operations, more maps.....yeah, cuz like Armored Warfare, if it dont make them money, they wont do it. Honestly, games anymore are just casinos with shooter minigames, or ship minigames, or tank minigames added on...... THen of the ships they add, half will be sold, then removed, never to be seen again. Its amazing when I get to lookin at the ships in game and ships I might want, how many we cant get anymore, like Lenin, Enterprise.....they even had an event selling an enterprise skin, but we cant get the ship. Then right after, selling Musashi skin, but we cant get Musashi....its stupid. THen even if you do get new ships, we can only play them in the same boring ass modes. Operations, hasnt seen a new mission since they added them in 2018, Coops is boring as fuck, Randoms I have no interest in. Assym, bring that back as a permanent mode. Give us Frontlines, but for WOWS...permanent, thatd be amusing.

[@ckino5628]

Oh look they're out of assets but full of bad ideas

[@AiDecc]

WoFs WoFs... :(

[@NFS_Challenger54]

Can someone PLEASE take the reins from Wargaming? It's been nothing but bad lazy job after bad af lazy job.

[@tsuaririndoku]

I wonder how did WG naming ships? It’s like they googling and try to pick the names without any research. Like Bungo. In the game she is a Battlecruiser. IJN Battlecruiser usually named after mountains like Heavy Cruisers do. I felt like Bungo wasn’t properly researched at all. Seriously though. Bungo should not have Province as her name. She should be name after mountains. Like Fuji. IDK, it pisses me off because Bungo is the only Battlecruiser than doesn’t have her name after the mountains. They’re not only making Depth charges consistent but also naming ships. Fuji sounds way better than Bungo. And more fitting as Fuji is the largest mountain (Volcano) in Japan. Bungo is the largest Battlecruiser in Japanese tech line. Not believe me? Adatara and Yumihari were name after Mount Adatara and Mount Yumihari. The 2 ships that were before Bungo are name after mountains. I know Bungo were design after Kii but longer. But it also basically a Battlecruiser. It should have Mountain on her name. And yes, Yodo is fine. IJN Cl name sake is from Rivers. So Yodo is named after Yodo River.

[@faynk.6247]

Like you said. Bungo was a development of the Kii class BATTLESHIP. Basically an enlarged Kii class. So Bungo is a proper battleship hence why she’s name after a province. Just because Bungo is in the battlecruiser line doesn’t mean she is a battlecruiser. Amagi is a battlecruiser but in the battleship line. Also Yumihari was classified as a Battlecruiser because she supposed to be a development after Kongou class battlecruiser so she name after a mountain

[@tsuaririndoku]

@@faynk.6247 Still it doesn’t make any sense if Bungo considered to be a Battleship design after Kii. Then it shouldn’t have Battlecruiser armor scheme at all. It should just be a Battleship like the rest of the BB line. It just somewhat in consistent to have a Tier X Battlecruiser are “Battleship” Bungo should have 32mm if she is going to be a Tier X Battlecruiser. She should have a name from mountains. It’s wasn’t consistent in the tech tree. But again. We have Amagi considered to be a Battleship and not place on Battlecruiser tech line while replace Amagi with Tosa which is what Amagi based on. While Amagi make more sense as Kii was based on later on Amagi to be a proper battleship version of Amagi. Bungo is also a development project based on 46cm guns and use Kii design hulls as a base. So in theory, Bungo should be a Battleship and named after province. But then we runs to the issue where how WG define Battlecruisers and Battleships. Because WeeGee are too lazy to make a proper Battlecruiser tech line on IJN. If they made a proper BC IJN Tech Line things would fits better. Replace Myogi and Kongo on Battleship role while moving Myogi and Kongo to higher tier. Kongo armor still pretty decent for Tier VII. Next is Tier VIII this can be place with Amagi with nerf bow and stern while increasing her overall accuracy. The ship to replace Amagi will be Tosa basically smaller Amagi and slower. No one will complain about it. They did this before on Cleveland and Baltimore. Then Adatara can stay as a Next Evolution 460mm guns Battlecruiser then make “Bungo” based on Kii next evolution and twist the design to be Battlecruiser and rename it Fuji. And there you go. A proper IJN Battlecruiser. Myogi and Kongo will also gains IJN CA guns treatment. Making them relevant again. She move to higher tier like Tier VI for Kongo isn’t a bad deal. Tier VII can be Yumihari. Next to Kongo. Yeah, IJN BC start at Tier V. Myogi, Kongo, Yumihari, Amagi, Adatara and Fuji. See? Not that hard to make a BC lines. Ships to replace Myogi and Kongo are either a dreadnought type development that Japan never built or plan. Because according to Japan and Allies. Kongo are designated as Battlecruiser and not being called Fast Battleships. So Kongo shouldn’t stay there at all. Even her refit, with armor reinforced. Kongo armor isn’t Battleship worthy for many people at the time as well. Amagi? Maybe but I just place Amagi in BC line so that we can have Tosa in the game. Tosa and Amagi main differences are gun accuracy, Armor and Speed. Amagi is more accurate than current Amagi while maintaining 30knots speed while Tosa remains the traditional BB speed similar to Nagato but have slightly better armor than Amagi. This also makes IJN Speed more consistent as well. Japan will start going faster and speed consistent from Tier III to X.

[@xefino8160]

Even the Yamato have faster turret travers than Lugdunum, even his you put everything that slower the Yamato turrets, it'll be faster anyway. What a joke this trash ship.

[@120420]

New Ships? You mean more BS?

[@dantheman1744]

I love your content flamu and I I truly did love world of warships but tbh this game is dead for me. I live in NA and the wait times at night are horrendous and the only people who play are players who know how to and the crap Ai.