5 Problems with Shipping Container Homes

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[@devonloerop]

Seriously... AG1 is no joke. I dare you to try it!

[@Darydude10]

Proved to be a scam lol

[@Keasbeysknight]

If I was wanting the Pacific bin look, I'd just make it out of wood and clad the siding in something like roofing material that gave the look without all the hurdles. Best of both worlds. The idea of reusing something like a shipping container is awesome for people worried about waste and who want to reuse a product, beyond that, to me , the benefits arent there. Great video, though and I look forward to the next buildings you make.

[@brie1987]

True. I have read that. I only want a few as one story L shape or add another for a middle courtyard deck. Still can make it look cool like you suggested without using container .

[@user-vr9sm1yf3p]

Most benefits are gone once you start deviating from the container formfactor and adding metal work. If you make clever use of the structural integrity you don't have to invest nearly as much into the foundation either.

[@carlcarter4084]

Devon, I really appreciate your brutal honesty and thoroughness of your videos in detail, your container home builds are truly awesome and beautiful, keep up the wonderful builds Devon!

[@devonloerop]

Thanks so much! Just trying to be real. Love chatting it up with you guys about all stuff building. I seriously love this stuff

[@kevinlewis5194]

Great video about being transparent about container homes. It's very appealing when you see other vids claiming under 10k container home. But, reality sets in when you have to do it correct, like you did. Keep up the good work. And, beautiful house brother.

[@madmaximus2836]

Regardless of the issues, just did a fabulous job. Congrats!!

[@devonloerop]

Thanks so much! Overall, love the home. Just a little more to it than what meets the eye.

[@arlingtonbutler9511]

I'm currently wrapping up a first if it's kind 5 container home on a remote Cay in The Bahamas 🇧🇸. It's been a steep learning curve for sure and challenging endeavor for my construction firm and the client. I'd advise that persons do their homework and be prepared to have to be creative in their build...

[@devonloerop]

congrats on wrapping it up! The world needs more container homes. Research is so key! Especially in hot/cold environments.

[@xo.caribella6400]

I would like to no how it turns out as I also am from the Caribbean; interested in one and worrying about the heat cause well you know 🥵

[@M13x13M]

By the time you build an insulated interior and windows you have built a house anyway. The only thing you save is siding

[@MrSteeDoo]

And that is some pretty expensive siding.

[@MartinTabanag]

I have been binge watching your videos for 2 hours now!

[@devonloerop]

Love to hear it! Welcome to the fam!

[@MartinTabanag]

so glad to be part of it@@devonloerop

[@Peter2k84]

Shrugs, the outside ladder to get up probably cost more than a used container. Making them more unique will undoubtatly add significatly to cost. A unique way, but still keeping costs in control, might have been to use a U shape and extending the middle with a glas roof all the way, or a winter garden of such a size.

[@sule_imani]

Other than cost, all the other issues could be solved by having an architect running the project. When you do something you've never done before of course it's going to be difficult. That is true for most things. But for a qualified professional it's fairly straight forward

[@projectsgalore]

Yes, but I think he mentioned that it may be difficult to find one to do that local to your build, depending on where you live.

[@danielmalinen6337]

Legality. Many countries and building regulations have a negative attitude towards container houses.

[@devonloerop]

this is true big picture wise, but the county I work with has been very receptive!

[@Alber6959]

Some negativity comes from being a cheaper shield, durable, can stand wing, storms, won't Rot, all the opposite of wood homes, in that case would perturb the big mafia business of wood homes, just by buying the container You already have around 15 to 20 % of the home done without expending on labor

[@msnpassjan2004]

2:10 Do you need closed cell spray foam both inside on the ceiling and outside on the roof, or can you just do the roof?

[@iankear736]

In a union carpenter, i want to say a guy I knew got a container for dirt cheap at the end of the job, it had some dings but nothing else, they just didn’t want to transport it so he took it off their hands for like 500 bucks or something along those lines

[@devonloerop]

wow, $500 is a great deal

[@ltarmenia4ever]

I wonder if it would work as a grandparents unit. Put two down in the backyard sort of thing as place to live when my parents retire. There's a shipping container place like 4 miles down the road from me, so I've been thinking about it.

[@MrSteeDoo]

You can frame up an 8ftx40ft structure in a weekend. What do you gain?

[@josephjoe9088]

So are there any benefits in using a container for a building if you are not doing a simple block I guess for lack of definition. Great job BTW It really looks beautiful

[@TheRealAndyB.]

Don’t give up bro your work is amazing

[@Natedoc808]

AG1 is great, as is framing out of lumber instead of shipping containers

[@user-nv4mj5rb4n]

Factory built homes are the way to go. Mass production efficiencies, proven designs, engineering and manufacturing techniques.

[@suckitupbuttercup24]

Yeah if you want to live in a cookie cutter cheap looking home with no style

[@marcelcicort9671]

My thoughts exactly. Realized this many hears ago when I've seen the customization costs also having a background in working with steel, welding, etc..

[@OneSon744]

wrong they are made from low quality un tenable mickey mouse parts. Builder for 48 years, I will not and never have remodeled or worked on one. Easy no.

[@user-nv4mj5rb4n]

@@OneSon744 nope. my brother has run his own construction company for 40 years. when he was in the market for a new home he inspected the factories and manufacturing. They use very high quality components AND stronger structures, and controlld manufacturing standards (instead of young kids banging nails) because the homes must structurally withstand shipping on trucks. you are way wrong...

[@MrSteeDoo]

The "efficiencies" only benefit the builder not the actual customer.

[@user-ep2es1mp5r]

You can build shipping containers brand new for less than buying a beat up one. Its crazy to build a shipping container home

[@rickyjames7355]

How much would it take for you to do 2 container to make a house and get it contracted?

[@johnmaurer3097]

Awesome video for being honest with the work and problems, we don’t see enough of that. I think shipping container homes and “van life” are quickly becoming the carpeted bathrooms of the 2020s. In 2-3 years they’ll be looked back as “I cannot believe people did something this stupid. And they celebrated and encouraged it”

[@hermesperez3905]

I know you sell the plans but would you consider writing a book? I think it would be helpful to many people including tradespeople. Just a thought. Thanks for all your advice.

[@Lyudtaru]

Yeah. This is the hard truth, but they're still awesome.

[@michelles.kennedy9122]

Your place is AMAZING! What STUNNING work you do! WOW.

[@devonloerop]

Thank you so much!

[@mjbucar]

A good video - informative and concise - thank you.

[@leequesada439]

On cost part, why didn't you say the actual cost it took?? Cause I've been looking for a place to live for bout a month. Thought about the Barndominium route, but since my advisors don't like the idea of me designing my own floor plan and such, they want me to pay for an Architect, spiking the build up to around 150k minus cost of land (40k for the plot i want), and I been trying to stay under 100k. This is going to be a build for me and me alone, 1 Master suite, and an open floor plan living space/kitchen that is partly the garage as well (proper ventilation of course.)

[@platinum1389]

I Am in Canada.. I want to do this So bad..

[@ItsDaJax]

I'm interested in building and designing shipping container homes, and through all these videos, I've came up with some improvements and work arounds. Some designs and layouts work better than others. One key is as a home, not making them more than they are, they aren't supposed to be luxurious and elaborate, you're working with something utilitarian and being repurposed as a home, the same way a school or warehouse/factory would be. Also one could use fiberglass insulation-- various busses use it.

[@devonloerop]

Wrong, absolutely do not use fiberglass insulation. You will 100% have mold problems if you do. Also, I built a unique luxury short term rental property not a conventional home for a single family to live in, if you know the short term rental space, unique and luxury is a very nice market to be in. :)

[@ItsDaJax]

@@devonloerop I understand what you're saying. As far as the fiberglass goes; it seems transit and school busses, and coaches use it with no problem, from the tear downs I've seen, is there a difference I'm not seeing? I'm no expert, I'm still learning these things. Could it be busses are just tighter built?

[@thatguy-uv7cv]

I honestly haven't seen any busses with fiberglass insulation. Maybe it depends on the type of bus I guess. On conversions to tiny homes I've seen some things that look like fiberglass but aren't like Havelock wool. When it comes to a metal build like that though I do know it isn't about how tight it is because with the change in temperatures the metal itself will condensate on one side or the other depending on where the heat is and the cool so spray foam would be the most ideal because it would seal that off completely so that it can't happen. Fiberglass doesn't mitigate moisture levels the way you'd need behind a metal wall unless maybe you learned to do vapor barriers in AK. That method will help but not be perfect. Just my opinion based on what I've seen.

[@ejo5294]

I love your house. There seems to be a lot of jealous guys in the comments.

[@snakebyteOne]

Nice build. Probably not too many NIMBY's in this neck of the woods. An outside deck on a raised 2nd floor level would be killer for AirBnB. Surprised there was no plan to put siding on the exterior.

[@rogeliosantayygodragustino9692]

How do you guys make the containers to last since they start to decay after time since their metal

[@johnhamilton2914]

They are a special steel for shipping on the ocean. Rust not an issue.

[@Michael-uc2pn]

@@johnhamilton2914 they're not rust proof, just rust resistant, I've seen plenty of them with serious rust issues from neglect. However, it is usually only an issue when you don't do any maintenance on them (most shipping containers in general use for storage), I'd assume as long as you keep it properly painted or treated like you would any other metal on your house, it won't be an issue.

[@saultorres6969]

THEY NEED TO BUILD CONTAINER HOMES IN FLORIDA👌👌👌

[@samantha_paige]

As a FL born and raised resident, that's what brought me to this video.

[@Darydude10]

They do

[@jesssimone6135]

Yep, here from Florida looking at videos as well and considering

[@LEELUNK-IS-A-HUNK]

THEY ALREADY HAVE THEM , GO VISIT A HOMELESS SHELTER

[@Trash-Castle]

These are the same issues I had. I own a saw mill so I was able to CUT my costs a lot. I built the one I live in by hand…I’d do it again, but wouldn’t build another one for someone else

[@devonloerop]

yeah, I'm with ya.

[@carolyngarcia6292]

If I buy the plans will it be ready to take to the permitting? Because this bypasses an architectural design, is that right? Would I still need a structural engineer? So this would save me on needing to hire an architect?

[@devonloerop]

You'd have to check with your local building department on what's required as it's different all across the country. But most times you'll need a local engineer to stamp the set with your address confirming that everything as it's drawn is acceptable for the plot of land you own. But everything in the set I'm selling what all I needed to get my building permit issued.

[@arizeeleven1690]

This is the last dream home for us

[@MrXoco83]

Does a container home match up with the fair market value of a regular built home?

[@Alber6959]

Cheaper

[@Juan-oy3fo]

Do vid ( do = talk about ) a house boat.. Must be 1pontoon 2 pipe 3 floats

[@johnliberty3647]

I found I can build the same thing with lumber for less.

[@Theyayan28]

Would you say a barndominium is an easier/cheaper approach?

[@devonloerop]

Interesting idea 🤔

[@aldenecampbell5457]

There are different types of shipping containers they can build shipping containers in a factory that is not like that one that is much cheaper than the shipping container you are using.

[@StopSnatchin]

Location is everything

[@ListedInTheSouth]

Lots of trials & tribulations, however, it was worth it in the end.

[@bijoudeaux1]

How does work in the Caribbean context? Has anyone from the Caribbean done this? I'm talking about Windward Islands Caribbean (Dominica, St. Lucia, Grenada, SVG).

[@TrainerAQ]

Houses like that actually depriciate in value over time. Just like a car. You're not going to be building equity with those things. Yea you have a roof over your head, but a car can pretty much do that too. And it won't cost you an arm and a leg to do.

[@devonloerop]

False** this is a single family home and fully permitted. I just had an appraisal out at the property and it's valued higher than comps in the area.

[@dharryg]

Thank you for the honest appraisals derived from your personal experiences. Well do e!

[@devonloerop]

of course! not many people transparent about the negatives of these homes.

[@MicThinksTiny]

Love this! Super helpful. I appreciate your transparency. I’ll definitely share this video with others who are considering shipping container homes! 👏🏾

[@devonloerop]

Glad it was helpful. Great chatting with you the other days. Excited to see the podcast come out!

[@tomnuytens925]

Looks nice and cool, but few constructive problems. Condensation will ruin the house fast...

[@devonloerop]

been running it for two years and zero condensation problems. Vapor barriers (ie closed cell spray foam) and proper ventilation are key. Same thing for a normal home.

[@animal245533]

Oh no I just watch the first one yesterday and fantasized about building my own. My mind was set! This is terrible!

[@karansehgal860]

Good job 😊

[@sallya.rhodes8592]

Very good job!.

[@MossMini]

6) Poor resell value

[@devonloerop]

Just got an appraisal and it valued 10% higher than comps in the area. The structure greatly exceeds building code because it's a custom structure. Plus I'd never sell it as a single family home as I'd sell as part of my business, which a multiple on the income will make the resale way higher than a single family home.

[@KitanaCollins]

@devonloerop 😂 great comeback

[@MossMini]

Very sure home buyers are looking for Container box style homes. Should be easy for you to sell when you're ready to let go. I'm not an expert. My prediction: container built homes will age like milk.

[@retroflambe]

@@devonloerop appraisals are great, and no question, they're amazing builds. However, I would like to see some one getting a mortgage for one of these, so please post when you actually sell one or two of them.

[@Trash-Castle]

I don’t know dude, I have 80k into 1850 square feet, i don’t plan on selling it. But my resell value is there

[@matthewsemenuk7544]

Very Nice place tho. Im sure there are a lot of budget friendlier, rougher, builds.

[@me-xx7th]

What about expansion and contraction of the metal in places of temperature fluctuation? Ie. winter and summer extremes.

[@MrSteeDoo]

That is the deal breaker. CONDENSATION.

[@pnwpaths2925]

My biggest question is how much did you have saved when you started this process? I got a decent amount in stocks and I am tempted to pull the trigger on some property but it’s a big leap of faith it seems 😂

[@devonloerop]

I had about $150k cash on hand! I say go for it. It's scary no matter what!

[@ricmucha9096]

Thanks for the tips

[@devonloerop]

Of course!

[@stavropulos]

Great build. But to say there’s no container home like it is false. The Box Hop in Hocking Hills was built prior to this and has a very similar look.

[@devonloerop]

Box hop is similar but much smaller. I love what Seth and Emily have done with box hop but my home is one of a kind.

[@user-bd1mj9qb9z]

That is good information about the shipping container homes tk s.

[@devonloerop]

You bet!

[@projectsgalore]

Can you please help me understand why you cant add an addition on to one, as in a bump out? We already have a 48' container on the property for storage while we built our log cabin....now it is empty, and im dreaming of options. I don't want tk have to add a container on top, but wider somewhere along the span of it would be nice....if you care to throw out thougts about that. Thanks!

[@devonloerop]

Hey! I sell my container homes plans online at thepacificbin.com/plans (code BIN70 gets you 70% off, since you're only going to need them for the connection detail) but you could pretty much put one next to it, cut out the walls in between (using my structural details), then you have a huge open space. Hopefully that helps!

[@Oh_Kimberly]

I still think shipping container homes have a greater advantage. Beats out these new prebuilt hotcake homes that break down in less than 2 years. 😶

[@devonloerop]

very true!

[@justicesims8462]

Would you help someone else make their hom?

[@devonloerop]

Shoot me an email [e-mail] :)

[@WRIGHTWAY5280]

Im looking to possibly purchase a container home that is finished inside but isnt plumbed. Will it be more difficult to add it at this stage?

[@devonloerop]

Ehhh, idk if I'd do that. Kind of backwards processes there.

[@MuletTheGreat]

"Sweat Equity" The rest of us call it labour. There's nothing fancy or shameful about working hard.

[@davidbryant3532]

Something CANNOT be extremely unique...impossible.

[@bmanz8117]

With all this complicated build, what is the point as apposed to a well built traditional build?

[@devonloerop]

As a short term rental unique is very important and yields higher daily rate

[@gussmaa4430]

Good video

[@Mark-gg6iy]

Home design choice is affected by natural insects (such as termites) and ambient climate.

[@JTMary]

I’m wondering if they are good for tropical savanna climate? Hot and humid

[@devonloerop]

Yeah great! As long as you properly insulate

[@JTMary]

@@devonloerop Thank you. Going to email in few months, love your work.

[@devonloerop]

@@JTMary looking forward to it

[@tommygamba170]

Good. Most of the time it's not a reasonable build.

[@alevaldes6589]

Whats the final Price please and how long it take ?

[@devonloerop]

Go check out my cost breakdown video, it's super detailed. Took about 9months from permit to first guest staying in the home.

[@davidcantu9727]

Love your stuff and get so excited anytime I see a new vid!

[@devonloerop]

Will be ramping up to 2 videos a week by end of the year. Big things planned!

[@davidrains6751]

so just dont stack your containers when building it ? whats so difficult

[@devonloerop]

doesn't look as cool just as one level.

[@PDZ1122]

20 grand for spray foam...some people live in a different universe to the rest of us.

[@ThatJapanMan]

Total build cost

[@kolbyreimer4860]

What are the two unique builds you have planned? :)

[@devonloerop]

Can't reveal them quite yet. ;)

[@taurianferguson]

Hypothetically, could you have built this home out of wood and just used a metal panel exterior for the look?

[@devonloerop]

Sure, but it still wouldn't have this exact aesthetic. It was nice having a lot of the structural work already done with the containers. Plus the home is super durable!

[@XX-td3lv]

Without AG1 water , I would never have made it to 50 years old….🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@devonloerop]

It truly works !!!

[@devonloerop]

Glad you made it! Keep going!

[@rotondabooden7475]

Hi Devon can you please send me over your container plans I'm really interested.

[@devonloerop]

They are on my website. Www.thepacificbin.com/plans if you use the code "bin70" you'll get 70% off. :)

[@rotondabooden7475]

Hi thanks Devon question how much did the build cost😂

[@devonloerop]

@@rotondabooden7475 there's a whole video breaking it down on my channel!

[@LEELUNK-IS-A-HUNK]

SELL IT ALREADY AND TRY TO PROFIT FROM IT, AFTER A ROLODEX OF STRANGERS ALREADY PILFIRED IT AND TRASHED IT FROM THE AIRB&B, TRUST ME, SELL IT

[@user-fy5sz8ps2d]

You are using containers to build home and not building containers home. Keep the cost down to minimal.

[@hyperhumana]

Let me guess: You've built only ONE such house?

[@sparta23dh]

What about WIFI inside the home?

[@devonloerop]

There's high speed internet inside the home! Thanks to T-Mobile wireless internet!

[@raineyjayy]

Like. How do these meet any sort of building code?

[@devonloerop]

The home was engineered

[@toddtomaszewski4626]

$20,000 for insulation huh?

[@devonloerop]

welcome to washington

[@widetrack1960]

Everything you came up with was because of 2nd story.

[@sulfurcitynews]

no

[@Partimepeasant]

Sounds like a Mayan pyramid.

[@devonloerop]

wut?

[@anotherchris4]

😂🎉you admit you messed up hiring inexperienced people,,

[@devonloerop]

Only the hvac guys, they sucked

[@1RobertSmith]

"Dweeb in the Wilderness" should be the name of this channel

[@LEELUNK-IS-A-HUNK]

UR MOMZ

[@carlosegonzalez678]

3D printing is the future.

[@devonloerop]

We shall see! :)

[@geesehoward700]

so you messed up by stacking them the way you did and by using to many containers. okay.

[@embededfabrication4482]

It's not pretty when they implode

[@devonloerop]

I've seen those videos! Pretty crazy!

[@mannys4036]

It seems to me you went for too much instead of starting with one container and learning the basics. What did you expect from stacking containers. You wanted something flashy so I disagree with all your points. I've seen many contractors and KZbin videos that mention how to properly ventilate a container home. You should have know all these points going in before you even began building the container home. It is a beautiful home, but you simply bite off more than you could chew. I love container homes but I would never stack them; you just asking for issues.

[@EtiandroRosa]

Just by looking u can tell it's an engineering nightmare. Well all project are, I suppose

[@waynecmontgomery]

Can you outsource to China and get it cheaper?

[@mattwernecke2342]

Containers over-priced

[@devonloerop]

Yeah, I bought in the peak of covid so they def were for me.

[@kirubellimenhe7285]

Could you Please donate shipping container to me l want to build my home like your nice

[@craigcharlestone]

This dude is a GENIUS marketer. The rest is idiotic.

[@katibothman5531]

Americans complain about everything and this guy is a prime example

[@dimitrivyazhevich8195]

Loset

[@cwwcww7465]

First of all !!!!!!!!! Devon, you absolutely got ripped over the coals on your costs........ I almost feel 2nd hand embarrassment for you but I dont.... You paid about 3 times too much on your construction costs, and built in the wrong state... No pitty will be felt here..... When a person like you does something like this and puts it on you tube, it actually affects other people trying to build stuff.... It gives other builders ideas that it is OK to triple and quadruple charge people to build things..... Again, no pity is felt for you.....

[@devonloerop]

My property officially got appraised yesterday at $1M 🤡

[@cwwcww7465]

@@devonloerop great... but you still paid way to much to have that built....... But the house is fantastic...... I wish you well, but at the same time cannot feel bad for someone who sprays flammable substances on a flame that really should not be there..... Agrivated inflation would be a good term.... Sell it....quick if I were you.... People have no idea what is coming in the real estate market...... Sell it to a Democrat obama and charge them 2 million... Buffet is a good indicator as to what is coming.... GODSPEED.....