DeWALT 20V Max Reciprocating Saw FAILS AND BREAKS On Livestream!

DeWALT 20V Max Reciprocating Saw FAILS AND BREAKS On Livestream!
On last weeks episode of #TTR #tooltestsraw we tested reciprocating saws Milwaukee and Dewalt. We go through a couple tests and then the DeWALT failed and broke check it out! Let us know what you think about this in the comments section below!

[@TheFlatlander440]

Gotta love the passion Vince shows the VCG gang, especially during TTR Fridays. That's what makes this channel fantastic, passion and dedication. Cheers!

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks William Logan we appreciate it!!

[@josephyamin9508]

Love your work keep going

[@mariacarneglia8483]

Another good video, keep up the good work and tool testing! Have a great day guys!

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks mom love you!

[@mariacarneglia8483]

❤️

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Great video guys

[@davidbertrand6884]

I’ve had same thing happen with a sears reciprocating saw, and I just took out the battery 🔋 and reinserted it. Maybe there’s an overload protection built in all battery tools.

[@petephipps6399]

Vince, I had my dewalt recip saw (same model in your test) go up in smoke. I was using the flexvolt battery. Do you think the flexvolt battery could be a issue?? Great show by the way

[@Questchaun]

Hangin and bangin! Love the vids!

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks buddy we appreciate it!!

[@dangrimes5078]

Chuck Woolsey...love connection

[@antisdelg]

I just want to know why #Dewalt refuses to comment about their contractor grade tools constantly failing on #TTR. I can’t believe that they don’t have the common curtesy to respond to the people who spend their hard earned money on these tools, the people who invest their money in these tools in order to make a living. It really is sad and has definitely changed my view on DeWalt! Thanks guys for putting in the work it takes to expose sub par tools and sub par company’s. You guys have potentially saved some of us a lot of money!

[@makermentality1031]

Unacceptable DeWalt great video Vince and gang it is because of your videos my brother has gone from loving Dewalt to looking into buying another line of tools turning out to be a better decision every day

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks ADD!!

[@mjc8761]

Good recap, I didn’t see that you all did anything to abuse the tool you just ran it. Maybe it died because it was too old? 🤷‍♀️

[@VCGConstruction]

This is exactly why it stopped running: BROKEN DEWALT RECIPROCATING SAW TEARDOWN! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqCrfIqmqdt5bsk

[@Maul9999]

It was brushed motor.

[@nuclearexplosion5841]

Vcg: cuts pressure treated 6x6 w/ brushed tool Also vcg: did we do anything to abuse this?

[@VCGConstruction]

Do you really think that’s abuse explosion? 🤣🤣

[@mr.wizeguy8995]

Maybe Dewalt is designed to cut toothpicks ;)

[@VCGConstruction]

🤣🤣

[@mr.wizeguy8995]

@C-Bomb Every Dewalt owner had trained beaver to chew those 6x6.

[@ztej]

This dewalt sawzaw came out like almost 10 years ago why are you comparing old tech vs new tech lol

[@pointedspider]

So did that model milwaukee. Their first M18 sawzall!

[@kperellie]

I saw an add today on KZbin from DeWalt that showed the Flex Volt batteries being used on the older tools.

[@Hoangxuan]

I like it very well, thanks

[@MostlyPeacefulCombatVet]

Yo 74 THOUSAND very cool people in the gang gang gang! Awesome cuz! Congrats!

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks David we appreciate it!!

[@dantheman9395]

First and foremost congratulations on 74k Second I have seen firefighters use Dewalt to cut cars apart when jaws of life are too big or in competition without flaw. My past experiences Dewalt major flaw are their switches

[@802Garage]

Being 7 years old, I'm not saying something should have broken, but it's also not that surprising if the switch electrical system failed.

[@VCGConstruction]

This was indeed the switch, and yes I agree things break on tools! Thanks Dan the man solderholm and 802!!

[@AllAboutVehicles]

Congrats on 74k, wow my neighbour uses the DeWalt Reciprocating saw and it has never broken.

[@Questchaun]

They were beating the shit out of these tools.

[@VCGConstruction]

Awesome Kienan thanks!!

[@armageddonsengineer3182]

You gotta have him use it as a knuckle dragging contractor would for 7 years, and then do a few hours of speed runs to finish it off. ;) There are a few things you can do to get a bit more life out of a thrashed trigger mechanism, but its usually conductive paint or copper plate. If a quick blast with an air compressor doesn't dislodge the crud, if any, you've just worn it down. But to get more than a few years out of a recip saw in contractor use, that's a minor miracle. My dewalt corded recip saw, went from nice bright yellow to forest floor colored in an afternoon of cutting through rebars, old creosote soaked railroad timbers, dirt, debris, wire, and various gack in under 4 hours. Then cut through the new pressure treated timbers and rebars/ half inch metal rod. Works fine, and likely will for years more. But if it had caught fire 2-3 weeks later, oh well. For $100, it already paid for itself after one project.

[@AllAboutVehicles]

Armageddon's Engineer my neighbour is a contractor and not your weekend warrior he uses his sawzall for everything

[@duncdunc76]

Lol I got Jimmy's curse of the Dewalt today. One of my 885 impacts just quit today while building a playset. I think it's the switch as well because it just stopped no smoke or burn up as I was just installing some screws. It is my oldest 885 though and it's been well used every day for many many years. Going to take it apart and replace the switch if that's the issue. Woulnt be sawzalling this one 😂

[@muddybadgers5205]

It should be no different than running a 9.0 on the Milwaukee. Same cells wired the same way (when the Flexvolt is on a 20v tool). I honestly think it was just some freak thing that by chance happened during a TTR. I guess it's better than quitting on the job site but it's still unfortunate. As much as I love my Milwaukee tools, I believe DeWalt makes great tools too so I hate seeing them fail

[@hinkhausr]

I run flexvolt in my recp no problem. Just the other day i cut through two lower ball joints with it, she was hot but still cutting.

[@VCGConstruction]

Awesome!

[@loucifer323]

I think it's the vibration causing the battery to jump around hitting those two buttons on the battery

[@TheTechGuider]

Mines still working great. Must of got a lemon.

[@paradigmcustomscales7832]

I have just purchased the DeWALT compact reciprocating and have noticed a major usability flaw...it may just be the position i have been using the saw in but a LOT of cutting debris is getting into the battery terminal connection and the battery itself. I spent about an hour openeing the four batteries i used in this tool over the past week and dumped out half a handful of cutting debris...VCG, what gives? Near as i can tell it is because of the battery orientation on the tool. I am a schmuck or is this a design flaw?

[@Mexicanmike87]

You guys should do a miter saw TTR between the DeWalt and the Hercules!

[@davids6075]

Yo Vince! Let me know if your not supposed to run flexvolt because I don't wanna mess my tools up.

[@VCGConstruction]

If I get more definitive information I’ll let you know!! 👍🏻

[@wocgoblin]

My lil 12v saw saw started smoking like crazy.... and it still works. It's like 7 years old

[@JaketheRake16]

My 6 1/2” 20v DeWalt Circular saw that I have had for years and a 20v drilL I’ve had for years both fried while I had Flexvolt batteries in them. I love my Flexvolt tools though, I havent purchased the Flexvolt recip saw though because it doesn’t have a 4 way blade clamp in it which is unacceptable for its price range.

[@slpip]

My brand new Milwaukee M18 Fuel brushless Super Sawzall failed within a week. My super sawzall only used one fully charged 12Ah battery and the trigger did not work any more, Sent back to eservice center for repair. Did you use a brushless Dewalt reciprocating saw? High amp battery makes problem with the saw trigger control circuit.

[@armageddonsengineer3182]

PWM controllers don't care about current. A basic layout of how these function here. www.neufeld.newton.ks.us/electronics/?p=133 The problem is, the old style corded and brushed tools ran most of the current through the trigger, so you had higher quality switches. Cherry, and the like that'd handle 20A 250v. But with a PWM, the mosfet does all the heavy lifting so you need to only control maybe 1/4 amp tops.. And so, you get cheaper and cheaper trigger switches, the kind of thing where crud and friction will eat a track through the thin conductive layer, and bye bye switch. Then all you got is a high torque, high current motor to play with for some RC toy maybe. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pou3Y2OdirZ_r7s

[@artiep6358]

#Dewalt Home Depot has a description of these batteries and it clearly says for all 20v max and 60v max. Maybe you need to look at your 20v vs FlexVolt architecture and find out why this is happening and not ignore this Very Cool Gangs find

[@Dave_Simmons]

There is a Dewalt ad on KZbin for using the FlexVolt batteries with 20V Max tools.

[@markgross3256]

I don't think you guys abused that Recip at all, I run the same Recip saw and have never had a problem at all, cuts throug everything I throw at it. That is crazy how it just gave up the ghost.

[@VCGConstruction]

We found the problem in this video BROKEN DEWALT RECIPROCATING SAW TEARDOWN! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqCrfIqmqdt5bsk

[@UKnoImSoGood]

DeWalt advertises that the flexvolt gives more power to the 20v tools

[@chaser9363]

funny, it's just like when i complained about the 12v drill "chuck" being garbage to DEWALT, it was like crickets, not a peep. it's like they're afraid or just don't care to address these issues with their increasingly declining product quality and line, while increasing their prices. i told them that i was going to try the red stuff for a while, and if they workout i'll be switching platforms. so i bought the 12v fuel hammer drill/ impact combo (which the "D" doesn't even have) and so far so good. so as soon as my 20v max stuff degrades it looks like i'll be switching. they won't do anything about these issues until they start losing market share as a result and by that time it'll be too late.

[@djdogman]

Same thing happend to me with my old ryobi tools when I bought the 9ah batteries it cooked every tool.

[@iamaaron____]

He said it 7 years old and it’s not brushless! There’s your answer tools do wear out🤣 replace the brushes an it will go another 7 years!! Or just buy brushless an not worry about it breaking.

[@arturwillner7313]

Please Test Makita DJR360Z reciprosaw

[@rubenrivera2600]

If you unscrew the dewalt you will see why the sawzall seized up the grease to lubricate the inside is what actually fails it gums up so bad it hardens causing loss of power and seizes up happened to my first 20 volt sawzall I'm hoping my second one doesn't do it as well or I'm going to return this again and get my money back

[@dsawyer1441]

Hey Vince please put dewalt flexvolt up against corded tools seeing as how their claim is corded power without the cord. Thanks

[@jeffgenchi5863]

Milwaukee all the way. My fuel saw Zaw cut through a car CV shaft in a Toyota Siena to get it out. It was rusted into the bracket. No bogging in 1.5" steel.

[@classikz]

But he said its 7 years old right?

[@thetruth5210]

shin888 don’t forget you’re comparing brushed $120 tool to a brushless $200 tool.

[@fireblaster9961]

It’s not because the flex bolt battery, I had 2 of theses in 6months and I run on 5amp 18v battery’s. It’s just the saw over heats, smell the vents it will stink, the last one I had had smoke pouring out

[@kingofthecrease30]

CONGRATS TO VCG ON 74,000 SUBSCRIBERS !!! 👍👍

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks King Of the Crease!!

[@michaelhodge9902]

You should send that tool to ave to do a tool teardown.

[@VCGConstruction]

We already opened it up in a different video!

[@jasonbabila6006]

Milwaukee is at the top of the world with both corded and cordless reciprocating saw

[@VCGConstruction]

Yes they are!

[@marcinwolant8628]

@@VCGConstruction if you're able to do ttr test between Milwaukee impact driver and hilti impact driver I would be very satisfied because in my opinion hilti tools are also good quality tools

[@Borescoped]

Jason they ought to be, they invented the Sawzall, the first electrically powered portable 2 handed reciprocating saw

[@jaimevillarreal8834]

Big difference in users?

[@biggone697]

I have a dewalt sawzall (not sure if it is the same one) but I have noticed when I use it, the batteries run down super fast and it gets very hot to the touch. I even have the dewalt 6ah batteries. Maybe it is a designe flaw!

[@VCGConstruction]

Maybe you should have a Stanley black and decker service center take a look at it!!

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

You can run flexvolt batteries on 20 volt tools the 60 volt tools have a double tang and activates the 60volt feature on 20 volt tools the bottom is smooth no tangs

[@tmghn1]

Honestly I don't know what to think. I've been using Dewalt tools for over 20 years and I've only smoked two drills, and both times I was pushing them beyond their limits. One was cordless (14.4) and the other was the entry level corded drill. Maybe their quality has gone to hell or maybe the flexvolt is pushing the tool too hard. I mean I still have my 9.6v drill that is over 20 years old and still runs, it was the first drill I ever bought

[@jporreca32]

Yo this comment section is wild... people really believe we get paid by Milwaukee? Or that I would purposely rig the test or “abuse” my own tool. That I paid for...? One guy said I was sweating trying to abuse my tool. I got news for ya I sweat cause I’m fat it was hot and I was working. Hahaha

[@jordancypihot496]

Dewalt tools are still good I prefere a tool a little bit weaker than paying 50 or 100 $ more and have a Milwaukee die anyway,tools are not as tough as they were so you got to understand that it will die anyway

[@blakekuhlmann2143]

the only keeping flexvolt in the same league as redlithium is backwards compatability. i work with tons of guys still running dewalt stuff so old it needs an adaptor to run new batteries and they love them. if the battery marketed as something that works simply doesnt work, milwaukee has just dominated the high output/ compact battery market.

[@dvxAznxvb]

Isn't the sawzall that they used brush less?, I have that DeWalt recip but only use for light pruning, got it free so not bad for free LMAO

[@josephr1170]

I took a close look at a friends dewalt sawzall and compared it to my Milwaukee one. It looked like a toy and felt horrible compared to my Milwaukee which is a tank and looks and feels like a professionals tool. Team red all the way

[@javic1979]

If you use a flex volt or any large capacity battery on an old tool you run the risk of burning the brushes or the motor windings out if you work the tool too hard.. The higher capacity increases the available power to the motor under overload conditions.. eg a 3AH battery would drop to 12 volts when you stall the motor vs 16 with a 6ah or 17 with a 9ah and the 12ah flex volt might not drop below 18volts if you jammed the blade..

[@mariebaker644]

It was the flexvolt battery that killed the sawzall I have seen the flexvolt battery kill two drills and impact driver in the last 6 months

[@shawndean1311]

Yes

[@tskipwadoo3447]

Hadn’t heard big hair band music since the 80’s.

[@kevinragsdale6256]

I can send you a screenshot of my emails with dewalt, they told me not to use 60v battery on 20v tools.

[@juanfernandez7488]

Hey I’m a new subscriber I think you guys are awesome but I would like for you guys to give this tool another chance but do it with the five amp thank you

[@robbiesmith-kh7ds]

How about a Dewalt fan boy vs a Milwaukee fan boy?????? It’s all about the user.

[@NickJPDT]

I don’t think I’ll be using flexvolt batteries on my 20v tools anymore, something is wrong there

[@VCGConstruction]

Possibly

[@TheTechGuider]

You said in the video tho you were using a 3 year old Dewalt vs a brand new Milwaukee

[@VCGConstruction]

No we didn’t 🤣🤣

[@TheTechGuider]

VCG Construction you said you had the Dewalt recipe saw for a couple years. Yes.

[@adamlaski9128]

I love my dewalt 12” sliding miter and table saws but they’re hand power tools seem to be lacking the quality we’ve come to expect. Not sure why this is but I’m very glad I’m not too invested in that system anymore (cordless brad nailer which is amazing, XR drill & impact which have also been good and the impacts the 887 😯)

[@VCGConstruction]

I agree dewalts benchtop and corded offerings are some of my favorites!

[@marccadec6978]

The issue is DeWalt hand tools are made in china,my planer and drill are old made in elu factory in Germany,when DeWalt bought elu. I stick to Bosch and Makita.

[@greggmetal]

Wow I’m very impressed, I love and use Milwaukee it I’ve always considered DeWalt as excellent tools just not my brand, and I see those tests and I got to tell you that it looks like DeWalt is going down fast in quality. Thanks Vince for TTR you don’t see those tests or dramatic results anywhere else 👍🏽👍🏽

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks greg we appreciate it!

[@kevinklepp9526]

Wow dewalt is really a sub standard tool company lately makita is moving in but there’s none better than big red

[@thetruth5210]

@kevin klepp “lately”?!? Did you miss the part when he said that he had this tool for seven years before they tested it? I would completely agree that it’s hard to find a tool company that has better longevity than Hilty, I definitely wouldn’t say that about a red tool company that in my area on the last time that I sent a tool in to get repaired took five weeks to get back from the service center. Sounds like they’re wicked busy, which doesn’t lend itself to your statement AT ALL!

[@chrisgeeseka5168]

You guys get Makita 36v in the fight. It would last the hold mach. Dewalt is just one time buy and use tool. They cost to much for one time use. Lol

[@dopeman4085]

ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!

[@loucifer323]

It's also 7 years old never had a Milwaukee tool last more than 5 years

[@frankieg3409]

My boss’s cordless Milwaukee saw all took a shit about two months after purchasing it and only using it like ten times. It was used to prune some small branches, cut a couple nails started smoking and smelling like burnt plastic after cutting a couple roots. I’m guessing a little dirt got into it and it couldn’t take it, we had to use my tools the rest of the job. I don’t know what’s up with all these Milwaukee fanboys that think paying extra for tools is going to magically give them extra experience. I’ll take skills and a black & decker over a greenhorn with Milwaukee tools anyway.

[@mcdyas]

Your guy says it right in the video: He has had the DeWalt saw for 7 years. Ok- how many years has the Milwaukee been in the field?

[@VCGConstruction]

5years

[@kingofthecrease30]

the milwaukee was 5 years but has been thru alot more than the dewalt...jimmy used his dewalt for projects around the house and not on a construction job site like the milwaukee was for 5 years so in reality that milwaukee has like 8- 10 years worth of use on it

[@mcdyas]

@@kingofthecrease30 These kind of tests where you take two tools used for several years, then have this guy use the milwaukee and the other guy use the dewalt- they don't give what is called a reproducible result. Ever heard of the Journal of Irreproducible Results? I bought a Milwaukee 18 guage nailer and it failed in less than 90 days of light weekend use on my kitchen reno. I took it back and got a Dewalt and could not be happier. Cool story bro, right?

[@kingofthecrease30]

@@mcdyas i got a better story....how bout VCG. had 4 brand new dewalt 887 impact drivers that went up in smoke and burned out doing the same tests that the milwaukee gen 3 impacts did and the milwaukee is still going....even the ridgid gen 5x impact outlasted the dewalt and didnt burn up....(4) dewalt 887's 🔥🔥🔥😂😂😂 and dont forget tool review zone had a dewalt 771 drill go up in smoke 10 mins after it was out of the box driving lag bolts...thats default for ya 🤣🔥🔥

[@mcdyas]

@@kingofthecrease30 have a nice life

[@lvnsnaperify]

Screw dewalt. I hate them since the old 18v stuff

[@waynedub1167]

So is Dewalt now the proverbial and literal banana up the tailpipe?

[@dollarsign77]

SEND THIS TOOL TO @AvE

[@jonathanwoodcock7462]

That dewalt isn’t really meant for anything more than an office guys holly hobby project at home nobody is going to buy that for commercial use. That’s the one thing Milwaukee has on dewalt even Milwaukee’s cheap option can still hold up. Dewalt unless you buy flexvolt tools there is no point.

[@jarrodbrennan121]

Legend says ridgid gen5 with an octane battery stepped in to finish testing for dewalt and still works till this day.

[@N-B-MMA]

I own the makita brushless recip and its definitely better than that dewalt

[@sergaljesus]

That dewalt is also brushed and 7 years old lol

[@jjsrt8]

Hey its 7 years old stuff happens

[@VCGConstruction]

I agree with you. Could it be the Flexvolt battery?

[@jjsrt8]

@@VCGConstructionNo clue on that haven't tried running flexvolt in any of my 20v max tools. Out of my budget.

[@SDMFTommySick]

You want to see something good put the DeWalt up against the Ryobi and watch all the fanboys cry..

[@II_4_R_Z_II]

Tommy Sick who would win?

[@SDMFTommySick]

@@II_4_R_Z_II I have seen both in action at a junkyard the DeWalt will be on it's 2nd battery during constant use then heated up and stop working while the Ryobi is still on its first battery and is doing almost twice as much work completed.

[@marccadec6978]

DeWalt are after all, black and decker in a posh frock.

[@Maul9999]

I have Dewalt Reciprocating Saw 60V. It is a lot better than brushed motor battery powered. Worth my time to wait for it when I saw it is only brushed motor. I remember that the corded power tool was still better than the cordless tool from 1998 to 2010 when I was young.

[@karolkorzinski7132]

The dewalt should not have died. But why did you run a 7 year old saw against a brand new new one?

[@VCGConstruction]

🤣🤣 the Milwaukee was 5 years old!

[@karolkorzinski7132]

Oh ok I didn't see the other video just this one and you don't mention that in this one I thought it was the new Milwaukee sawzall u unboxed the other day

[@erichayes5217]

Buddy worked the Dewalt so hard he sweat through his shirt lol I wonder if they abused the tool 😂

[@WEALRO]

It looks cheap , DEWALT is plastic Fisher Price junk , just saying

[@VCGConstruction]

DeWalt is the only contractor grade tool that has ever failed during TTR!

[@802Garage]

I think DeWalt has some tools that are tough to beat, especially for the price. However, they also make the most tools in the price range that simply aren't worth it compared to others. Basically much less consistent than other companies.

[@kingofthecrease30]

but you love that dewalt miter saw 😂

[@VCGConstruction]

I do love my miter and tablesaw!! 🤣🤣

[@kingofthecrease30]

@@VCGConstruction i know vcg does but what about minorca home solutions? is it fisher price junk to him? 🤔😂

[@santinolopez8200]

GARBAGE.. I own both the milwaukee and the dewalt ..... The dewalt is trash.... It broke!!!!

[@PB-fu5pk]

Dewalt......AKA D-

[@jdreynolds29]

Of course you did something to that tool to make it stop running. You used it. Everyone should know by now it if you use a DeWalt power tool it's going to go to the graveyard. Lol

[@gsh319]

hahaaaa Between your Robotor and you slack Queen chant, your a f-nn riot Vince. Before your next video, have the boys Amp ya up on some redbulls and peperoni slicesand then roll the cameras. …...That's never happened with my tool baby, I swear....

[@honda9731]

Dewalt tools always weighs lighter than bloody heavyweight. Aesthetically Yellow looks good but could be compromising vital internal mechanical parts. Back in the days before Clinton NAFTA, globalization went berserk, I repaired various power tools in ship maintenance, I was amazed only with Makita for its simplicity mechanical design but its durability and efficiency is unparalleled by any big US European Japanese brands (never seen Milwaukee before). Now, by just using my instinct only Milwaukee can beat Makita costwise and durability.

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks for the feedback Honda!!

[@aceseightsazhvacsparkyandg8138]

Like I said before dewalt has gone way down hill ! Dewalt is no longer a pro tool . Mite run the dewalt vs Ryobi saw ?

[@brendancaldwell5376]

#deadwalt

[@davekorn6516]

burned up two of the dewalts at work in about the first 30 minutes of use junk

[@johndoran4111]

Abused ? No that’s what them tools are for . Looks like another De FAULT to be put in the vice and cut with a real recip 😂😂😂😂😂

[@VCGConstruction]

🤣🤣 MILWAUKEE M18 SUPER SAWZALL KIT (What Can It Cut Through?) kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqHPqqFobJJ_aJo

[@flooringspecialist4574]

I’m not a fan of any brand for me a tool is just a tool but it’s so obvious that vince is sponsored by Milwaukee of course he is gonna deny it.

[@VCGConstruction]

🤣🤣 DeWalt breaks on livestream! Vince is sponsored! 🤣🤣

[@802Garage]

@@VCGConstruction Don't lie Vince! I heard they've given you so much money you bleed red!!! 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣