DeWalt Mid-Torque vs Milwaukee: We Reveal Dark Secrets of DCF894

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Find the DeWalt here: amzn.to/3jR1Pzw Torque of TTC is working for Astro Tools who also make impact wrenches (air). TTC is not the only testing out there, always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool! There's rumors about a new 20V Mid AND high torque on the horizon. If those are anything like DeWalt's recent introduction, they should a force to be reckoned with.

[@Tilt_TM]

Thank you for choosing to continue posting videos.

[@Milhaus_yt]

TTC wouldnt be the same without Torque or Channel. If Astro said they dont care if you show they are not the best then keep on chuggin

[@MustPassTruck]

You can do both and still keep our trust. It is just data after all. The problem will be whether astro will allow you to keep being honest even if they fall behind somewhere.

[@alifidzar1178]

Great result as always. Can you test with IR W5153 on next video?

[@Milhaus_yt]

@@MustPassTruck he mentioned in his live stream they there are a lot of tested but not posted tools that did knock astro tools off the leaderboard

[@saturnmedia1]

Hey guys! Glad I could help out! I always use it with the 6AH battery, thank you for the kind words!

[@RayleighCriterion]

I have the DeWalt 894 and it works well for automotive use, makes it easy to take lug nuts on and off, fits into right spaces for brake and suspension strut replacement, and I only have 3 amp batteries.

[@brandon2076]

My "hand dyno" has been impressed with my new to me DCF894, I brought mine to work to test it's mettle on heavy equipment and it has no problem taking off M24 forklift counterweight bolts with the XR 5ah battery. I'll add, the forklifts are decommissioned units from the NYC sanitation department and have tons of rust from constant salt exposure....so glad to see it tested, i might have to get myself some of those new 6ah batteries!

[@mikeday8826]

I have been using the Mac version for a while now. I have also thought that it was pretty powerful according to the "hand dyno". It definitely does bolts and lug nuts that will surprise you. I am surprised by these results. I got one of the 6ah batteries a couple months ago, and it definitely makes a huge difference!

[@strykervalkyrion]

Gotta send these to AvE for the tech breakdown

[@stlyns]

I was really amazed at the increase of torque the 6ah batteries made! Thanks so much for testing this!

[@ericbuilt269]

I have this gun and really like it. You didn’t mention the different settings. I love the smart mode for taking off lug nuts. For me it’s plenty powerful, priced right, and in my platform.

[@DarienNewman]

I have the dcf899 and it seems to rattle significantly more with the 8ah xr. I really enjoy your channel and I think it provides a great service. I hope you can take your new job and still keep up your unbiased (as possible) reviews. I’m sure your channel will grow and help keep manufacturers claims in check. Is also like to see your range of tool tests grow even if you are the “TTC” channel. Thanks!

[@jordanhastingss1066]

Keep making videos 100%, if you show Astro tools that’s fine as long as you show the tools that beat them as well! Keep them humble and keeps everyone entertained!

[@johnanthony8865]

Hey TTC, you guys are in my top 3 YT contributors. You have worked out the best mix of knowledge and humor. Keep Torque in TTC. Just sayin.

[@wrothacker4]

Pleasantly surprised how well this tool performed for how old it is. Props to DeWalt. Figured it would be below craftsman in every category.

[@wrothacker4]

@@adamgreen911 yes. Did you?

[@DiligentDave1966]

Dewalt owns Craftsman, so how would it be below that.

[@chuckman2823]

I bought one of these Dewalts back when they were released (~$180 with a 4ah and charger deal at HD iirc) and competing almost singularly against the the gen1 m18 mid. Looks like its actually a decent bang for the buck especially for when it was released. Looks like i need to find one of the 6ah packs though.

[@Highstranger951]

This is why I just picked up a new 2962. She’s a bad girl.

[@ricardoauerbach4092]

I’ve got an 894 I use on 4ah batteries. It gets the job for me as a hobbyist which is lug nuts and suspension bolts. I’ve been happy with it.

[@78elcaminoman]

This is great to see finally someone test the DeWalt with bigger better batteries! When I bought my high torque 1/2 it actually came with the old 4ah packs and I ran them for a long time. I recently bought the new DeWalt 8ah packs and boy did it wake that high torque up! It would be nice to see you revisit the DeWalt high torque again but with the bigger better batteries! I have even though about getting one of the new 10ah batteries and seeing how she does.

[@FusionBoost2.0]

Glad to see how well it did... I have always liked mine and found out to be plenty adequate to do just about anything I need it to do home and at work

[@TorqueTestChannel]

They are definitely under selling it! I bet they wont make that mistake on the next one

[@FusionBoost2.0]

@@TorqueTestChannel I'm excited to see what they have in store for a next gen mid and high torque

[@FusionBoost2.0]

@@TorqueTestChannel and after I got my 6ah a few years back, I could tell the difference right away, I always use the 6 on it now

[@justinbaird_]

Was literally searching two days ago for torque tests on this mid range for my dewalt collection. Will pass on this for what it is. Thank you for the info 🙌🏻

[@nickcampbell3075]

You guys are covering so many tools. Keep up the good work

[@jameskirk3]

Scored one with a 4ah kit for $60 today. Just needed the battery, good to know its a serviceable tool. Will keep in the trunk for lug nuts and being a good samaritan.

[@tammyshellikoff3482]

Thank you for the video TTC Craftsman doing a good job with the line of power tool with their brushless tool in my thought

[@stgsux]

I cant wait to see how the visually similar mac tools stack up to both dewalt and craftsman. would you guys ever consider doing a teardown to compare whats inside? Would really love to see some of the innards of similar dewalt - craftsman stuff compared. Thanks for the video!

[@andybrooks4070]

I love mine, it works great for anything I need it to do where I work, mainly wheels and teeth and edges on buckets

[@RJ_Cormac]

Glad to see the channel continue 👍

[@GhillieGames]

Got mine for 150 with battery and charger. Only a 2ah XR battery but it’s a great deal. It’s my first electric impact and performance is better than my air powered is. Can’t complain at all about it

[@natethegr8420]

I’ve used craftsman for years and this just cements that they still make value tools. I would like to see that 9ah battery tested on the craftsman, I’m interested to see the difference 🤤

[@LightGesture]

Every tool my 9Ah has been on ganks.

[@ChrisMuncy]

T2C - just keep doing what you're doing. Love these videos.

[@itsatoolthing6323]

You guys always bring the heat! 👍

[@colinredman302]

I got a DCF894 a few months ago, a little disappointed with the power despite how old it is. It was my first cordless tool, so it was my blood sacrifice to staying with Dewalt. I bought a DCD999 hammer drill that came with a flex volt 6AH battery. I decided to try it out in the 894 and wow, it made significantly more power than the 5ah XR. I have yet to even need to fork over the extra cash for a high torque, even with it being deployed in a tire shop most of the day.

[@bafilipski]

Would love to see some dyno pulls with batteries that have been stuck in the fridge/freezer for a few hours. I'm assuming performance would drop off with colder temperatures. Maybe a shorts video?

[@tankmlee]

Project Farm is another KZbin channel that does stuff like this, he did a pretty in depth battery test

[@Dansk55]

Yes. Even with motorcycle lithium batteries, its a good idea to turn on the lights to wake up/warm the lithium battery before cranking it.

[@kevinkotchevar8410]

Keep batteries in my truck in the winter on average 2 out of 6 will be charged rest dead and won't take a charge till warmed up

[@mrcokez1]

that craftsmen is looking more and more impressive everytime you showcase it, the crazy thing is ive seen the kit on sale for as low as 150 at lowes.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

We bought ours for 119 batt and charger!

[@MedCityViking]

I bought the 894 yesterday at Lowe's for $90 on clearance and it came with a 4 ah battery. It might not beat the Milwaukee on the Dyno, but it will be plenty of tool for what I need around the house and yard.

[@stiffass9539]

I use my 894 every day for anything where it’ll fit on cars, trucks, heavy equipment and anything else that has nuts and bolts. Have been impressed with its durability (have dropped it off of a lot of stuff) Always has a flexvolt battery on it. Definitely worth the money and I’m waiting patiently for the new dewalts to come out

[@jamesurtekar1657]

Same, I believe the DCF891 is our answer. The Powerstack battery is also a must have.

[@deere3321]

I just ordered the Dewalt for $130 on amazon. I already have a 5ah battery from my Dewalt chain saw. Good comparison video

[@easy537]

I love your channel - You give us real data - thank you I think you could really expand your channel by doing head to head comparisons with Wrenches, Sockets, Ratchet Ect... I'd like to see you take them to failure - also compare fit and finish and Cost We could really benefit from this info. If I could get a wrench that is 90% as strong as a snap on for half the price thats a game changer - Thank you - Keep up the great work

[@someinternetguy955]

Yes, Mac ones are the same components. Have opened them up in our shop, same motors and internal parts. Have fixed the odd unit when they die, order by dewalt part number.

[@Hansengineering]

"You're holding it wrong!" - Apple, and also apparently DeWalt?

[@TorqueTestChannel]

I'm not sure if they know, or would admit. But it does seem to make a difference. The type of difference that people usually comment about how to hold an impact wrench, but in this case actually being true

[@Hansengineering]

@@TorqueTestChannel idk, I haven't used dewalt since I smoked multiple in 2004 in the Iraqs (and such). I am certain they were the bargainiest of bargain drills, but it set a... distaste for the brand. My brother uses exclusively DeWalt. But if what you're thinking is true, it is the same thing that hit Apple. They simply didn't consider how people would hold the phone when designing the antenna. Of course it didn't affect their sales, because they're Apple. Also you could completely mitigate the issue by throwing a case on.

[@FishFind3000]

@@Hansengineering I think they might have changed after 17 years….

[@Hansengineering]

@@FishFind3000 Too late. Already fully 'invested' in other brand's ecosystems. A good reason for not having 13 brand's batteries floating around is that they go bad with time, particularly if you're not using them.

[@zorgzev96]

Everyone who bought one of these regrets it now that the DCF891 is out

[@BlueRedGooGoo]

I just picked one of these 894s up from the local supply store for $99, so I'm really not too upset about it.

[@FordRanchero289]

I am so ready to see the BWP151 and MCF894 take on the DCF899 and DCF894!!

[@pi.actual]

Fact is that unless this is the first cordless power tool you are buying you are going to go with the brand you are vested in with ownership of batteries and chargers. Secondly, unless the tool you have is failing to remove whatever it is you are working on there would be no reason to replace it with a newer model with higher specs.

[@yusuihang]

I have the Dewalt DCF894. Bought it for $156 with two 5Ah batteries on Amazon at the release. It has no issues with removing Toyota sedan suspension bolts (in California), which is about the most torque that I need. This video confirms that the performance is good enough for me--but the new impact wrenches being released sure look nice.

[@Jtwizzle]

Wow that is a steal.. I got one last holidays for 200 with one 5ah, bag, charger and tool.

[@powertools2375]

Damn I overpaid.

[@elvism684]

@@Jtwizzle I just got some from Lowes with the 4Ah, charger & bag for $89+Tax each.

[@HeadsUP253]

I have this dewalt 20v max xr mid range impact i love mine my first dewalt purchase from guy coming from Milwaukee i love them both!

[@eleanoramelia2591]

excellent channel, you and Project Farm are great channels

[@ProfessorDickify]

GJ and the rest are all the way

[@leemarchant7191]

Hopefully we can see some power stack battery testing once they are available. Glad to see option 1 was the consensus.

[@RespawnRestricted]

Got my 850 at Lowe's and love it alot of them have it for half price right now paid 120

[@_thegreasemonkey_]

Who would’ve thought they’d drop the DCF891 and rule the mid range market! I sold my Milwaukee Gen3 and brought the dewalt DCF891!

[@KenyonPayne]

I'm really looking forward to more new Dewalt impacts. Is it confirmed a new mid torque is coming?

[@robertfrate9738]

Hi, I have this dcf894 it’s great for handling it’s very convenient, but, sometimes it takes caliper bolts right off and sometimes it don’t! I have to upgrade,

[@historyhisstory6289]

Love mine! I also bought the Milwaukee high torque for when this dude can't get her done. But I'm really impressed with what this tool can remove. I hardly ever have to pull out the big dog. Video suggestion: how much torque can those newer right angle adapters for the 1/4 in impacts handle before failure? Stumbled across the new DeWalt one and I'm just blown away that it can handle everything my 1/4 impact can throw at it. With some extensions it's amazing what spaces you can access! Better than any cordless wrench.

[@Thebassguru84]

Just picked up the dewalt 896 and Damn it’s a great impact!

[@DannyGruesome]

The craftsman in the thumbnail lol

[@thedarkmage7373]

Thank you for going option 1

[@juliangozalez2157]

I have a Dewalt DCF 894 and a DCF 901 this last for me it's a Best. Subcompact win Grettings From Colombia.

[@freakotec]

Now let's see that 6ah battery on the Dewalt high torque! Redemption!!

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Alrighty

[@freakotec]

@@TorqueTestChannel lol

[@saturnmedia1]

@@TorqueTestChannel want me to send it in again? Lol

[@brandon2076]

@@TorqueTestChannel yes please!!

[@davidjwillems]

Den of Tools sent me. Subscribed.

[@boryskafarow]

Good job 😀

[@joedirt1712]

Thank you.

[@maluplayer1]

I picked this up for $89 with a 4ah + fast charger.

[@mooremaceo]

Looks like I made the right purchase!

[@joshuaking34]

The DCF894 is simply a workhorse. Not the best or worst, but always ready for battle no matter how much it's abused.

[@addisonsteiner6473]

I went red a couple of years ago, but I held onto a couple of DeWalt's including the DCF894 because I just like the thing for DIY auto repair. I use it quite a bit.

[@Joethetoolguy]

This the life hack I never knew I wanted

[@MikeMcCasland27]

Hey TTC, I really appreciate you putting this video together; I was one of the rando's online requesting it. I am genuinely shocked that the DeWalt finished "relatively" close to the Milwaukee Gen2. I have both of these impacts, and from a seat-of-the-pants dyno the Milwaukee really feels like it blows it out of the water in terms of power. I know you can't (and probably more importantly don't want to) add a metric for how soon the power really comes on, because that's about the only thing I can think of that would explain the feel vs dyno numbers. It's almost like the Milwaukee has a diesel power band, and the DeWalt is gas; it'll make the power, but it's gotta rev etc. Thanks again for putting this video together; really enjoy the channel. Congrats on the astro gig too. :)

[@TorqueTestChannel]

They aren't THAT close, it's just just somewhat closer with the bigger 21700 cell battery. Otherwise technically the DeWalt is closer to compacts that this M18 mid torque.

[@Mike_in_Can]

Have you found which battery provides the most power? If so, have you considered buying battery adapters if available to work with the other tools and see if that would unlock more torque from devices?

[@atrainace114]

I wonder if dewalt will benefit from the new power stack batteries. That I have to admit would be interesting to see

[@JCAchannel100]

I’m a mechanic and can confirm that the MAC power tools are 100% identical to DeWalt and cost hundreds more. The battery’s are directly interchangeable and the tool functions and operation are the same

[@jamesbyrd8907]

Great video as always and super happy that you're continuing to make videos. Do you know how to tell if I have 20700 or 21700 cells in my DCB206 without taking it apart?

[@TorqueTestChannel]

See if the date code is 2019 and earlier or so

[@jamesbyrd8907]

@@TorqueTestChannel thanks!!

[@Biaanca5036]

It will have a much bigger front button and much wider/broader shoulders (if you can call it that) compared to a normal battery. 21700s are very chonk sized compared to 18650s

[@TorqueTestChannel]

@@Biaanca5036 IT went from 20700 to 21700. The physical outter shape of the battery is not noticeably different

[@honchoryanc]

You need to go by the way of Ave and do tear downs as well

[@Aaronserranterrands]

I really love my dewalt 12v impact wrenches- I have been daily driving the 3/8 and recently picked up the 1/2- always impressed by their power compared to size and weight. Will you do a 12v sub compact battle? If so I have a pair of dewalt 12v to lend.

[@0302Shane]

He already did

[@-tr0n]

Can't wait to see the MAC impacts tested. The batteries are 100% interchangable, and my drivers have told me that they're "stronger" but not more powerful. IE built to handle oil and grease better. Who knows.

[@daslynnter9841]

I thought batteries by Stanley black and decker were shared among all tool brands, coulda sworn I've seen a few craftsman with dewalt batteries, then again couldve been mac.

[@Biaanca5036]

The cheaper brands yes(stanley, porter cable, blackDecker, and _(old obsolete SEARS era)_ craftsman) they all have the same 4-pin bus and it's just a matter of grinding or cutting up the battery/slot to fit. Fully compatible across the three brands. Dewalt, Kyocera, and Mac are all dewalt-style 8-pin busses(5 above, 3 below)

[@legionnair23]

I have both just save your money and get dewalt. The MAC stuff is just a different colour with higher price tag

[@-tr0n]

@@legionnair23 that's what I figured, but I'd just like the proof haha

[@revell7156]

@@legionnair23 agreed. I own the MAC branded red defaults and they seem nearly identical. And the 3/8 impact is a toy compared to the milwaukee.

[@johnschwab1672]

If you’re lucky you can find the kit with a 4ah battery for $89.00 a lowes, they’re leftover seasonal holiday stock.

[@jarrodbass8969]

Will you test the Milwaukee 2862-22 1/2 drive impact??!! Just bought one and I am very curious of how it compares to the 2967

[@Whateva67]

I found one of these in a kit with 2 5 ah batteries,charger and a bag for 247$ cad.at Home Depot.couldn’t believe my luck that they had one kit that they don’t normally sell but they had one for some reason,they gave it to me for half price ,couldn’t pass it up. Greetings from British Columbia

[@timjd7964]

Just picked up the DeWalt for 109 at lowes

[@billymurphy3]

I bet Dewalt is going to make a jump in the impact wrench space soon enough. With the new impact driver and battery tech for smaller and more powerful tools? Seems like Dewalt is throwing some punches to me.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

It's amazing what a change in perception DeWalt has accomplished in a matter of a month when it comes to their latest tech. Really excited to see new stuff from them

[@billymurphy3]

@@TorqueTestChannel totally agree. All the other brands were making moves. Literally like 2 days before Dewalt dropped their new battery pack there were rumors of the same tech from Milwaukee and Flex. I was pretty impressed/surprised that Dewalt fired the first shots haha It’s all very exciting and annoying 😂😂

[@Biaanca5036]

Can always use more teeny tinies, gimme gimme! The current batteries all have fat front parts that stick out past the front of the new drivers and it's about time they did something to make them smaller. A new class of compact batteries for an even tinier set of impacts is a very welcome addition! Ryobi in Japan had the teeny tiny 9.9cm Bid-11XR for almost two years and It's probably why everyone in the West is scrambling to push out teeny tiny 10cm impact drivers now :) BUT I NEEED THOSE SMALLER BATTERIES. NO MORE CLOWN SHOES!

[@adamperry4610]

personally i would love to see a big f-off flexvolt 3/4" or 1" impact

[@randalsweeting661]

So with the new compact atomic 20volts now out will they release a mid torque atomic impact? Something with 500 to 600 torque

[@prototype3a]

I don't think I've seen you test it but do you have any thoughts on the M18 9ah packs?

[@gman5780]

I have a snapon air hammer I would like to see put up against the rest its never been used

[@kennethstephens8046]

Started working at a Toyota dealership 3 1/2 weeks ago. My ridgid mid torque has been used sparingly around the house. Used it for 2 1/2 weeks doing rotations at the dealer and it died. Kinda disappointed. But I’m gonna use air until I can find Chicago pneumatics new impact and battery line somewhere and get that.

[@powertools2375]

Will you guys be testing the dcf894 with the new powerstack battery? Please

[@Micko350]

Are you going to test them with the new 'compact' Flat Cell Packs?

[@tankmlee]

I just bought some craftsmen tools because of the last video on budget mid torques. It's nice to know that I have a well performing toolset

[@rpavlik1]

Any chance we can get more battery teardowns or a link to someone else who does? I don't have the video revenue to tear mine apart, I'd like to keep their warranty, but there's precious little documentation out there showing the bms boards, battery protection (what's the "cooling wrap" Skil brags about?), whether the protection circuits are in the tool or battery, etc. Saw a deal on Sata cordless tools recently (they apparently have a 18v drill driver and impact driver), with an interesting looking connector (looked like all the balance lines were brought out) and yet I could not find anybody else with a similar connector despite the fact it's almost certainly a rebadge or at least modified oem'd tool.

[@roussell]

Would be interesting to see the Craftsman with the 21700 pack - and also a teardown of the Dewalt and Craftsman to see if the internals are interchangeable

[@nealmyers2735]

Can you test the Skil tools? I accidently got tricked into getting all of the ones I could on Amazon because if you get one , go all out because you have the batteries. I'm just a weekend user of tools but I'm really satisfied with the tools they seem to be really good (for weekend use ) tools.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

We have!

[@superdave103harley]

I had the DeWalt and I am so glad I switched to the Ryobi p262 that gun for the money is an absolute little beast!! I got the Ryobi p262 for 140 bucks I consider that a steal I was in the market for an electric half inch and I am so glad I took your guys's advice on that gun

[@niteninja0133]

Can you try the new dewalt stack on batteries and see how the compare to the other batteries

[@honchoryanc]

I just got a craftsman clearance at lowes for 70 bucks

[@Smillster]

I'm curious on how Ingersoll Rand's mid torque compares.

[@alexandersantangelo9366]

Can you test the Porter-Cable high torque

[@AL_Lopez_101]

Have you ttied the One Key Milwaukee Fuel Impact Wrench.

[@dross50]

Do you guys have any intentions of testing Hilti tools? I'm planning on buying one of their drills, I'm curious if it would be worth the coin to buy a package that includes an impact and to be honest I love your channel so much I want to wait until I see your thoughts before I pull the trigger.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Yes, but might be a couple months 'till we purchase Hilti

[@thatoneguythatwasntlikewow5167]

Starting as a lube tech soon would anyone suggest this? Those in the automotive world knows lube techs do tire changes/rotations I need speed and efficiency at a good price seeing I'm trying to budget. I do intend on buying Milwaukee as I grow my tool box I just need something to start with

[@al1sa920]

Are you interested in testing Hilti impact wrenches?

[@D3AThCAl2DS]

got the mac 894 with 2 4ah pretty sure its the same I am starting to experience a dislike for the torque limiter on my though kinda sticks when it shouldn't and I might a bearing going out in the snout of the impact. Just a dumb quick luber but seems like i should upgrade to the 2962-20 there are many times people have over torqued the lugs on pickups and the 894 just couldn't get them off with a fresh battery. Then I break out the klutch 47910 air impact i have that sees lots of line pressure ;) and rips them off in no time. well except when they are seized turned a subaru stud blue today before it snapped lol

[@powertools2375]

You should get the larger one in a kit with the new 6amp battery to give new life to your 894. Imho I’ve seen the 899 as low as 199 on special including the battery that interchanges with the 894 for those times don’t need the big gun.

[@TheSirPotato]

Imagine if Craftsman get a 21700 2p battery.

[@patricelebrasseur5649]

Mac are almost the same, they just use a better plastic that resist oil better and you pay more for the truck convenient

[@mikethetoolman8776]

mac has a better warranty also

[@801woodbutcher]

Test the metabo mid torque plz

[@eggsamich]

Does the Milwaukee gen 2 3/8" really out perform the gen 2 1/2" variant?? It would be nice to see a head to head video!!!

[@TorqueTestChannel]

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[@Lucerne9]

Is the spreadsheet/rainchart available anywhere for us to download and have for ourselves? One that you guys can update after each video for us to keep up

[@LittleWapiti]

Think you need to join their patreon to download data

[@TorqueTestChannel]

We don't have a patreon :P Just email us at [e-mail]