Dewalt planer dust collection cabinet

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This video shows how you can make a small dust collection cabinet for dewalt planers.
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@govenr
@govenr 6 жыл бұрын
Good try however I think you over engineered this one. Try using a powertec dust filter bag as it works fantastic since this planer has a built in blower exhaust. Make an extension of the existing black dust port with pvc. so it will be out of the way and slightly off to the side. I use mine every day and for $20 it works awesome.
@akbychoice
@akbychoice 6 жыл бұрын
Kia'aina Wong wonder if stacking one up and one down would work? See lots of dust collectors built that way.
@rickbraden4272
@rickbraden4272 2 ай бұрын
Could you tell me what Powertec bag you have? I'd like to do that to mine too. Thanks.
@DBYNOE
@DBYNOE 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe if that vent was on the top, gravity would assist in keeping it clear?
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Darnley Bynoe I thought about this right after I posted the video. It would be definitely better. Thanks for watching Ryan
@MWAWoodworks
@MWAWoodworks 8 жыл бұрын
+Darnley Bynoe it wont help. I tried EVERYTHING with my box, to no avail. that chip ejector/blower is way too powerful for its own good.
@akbychoice
@akbychoice 6 жыл бұрын
Or a spiral on the ceiling of the cabinet with a top exit to act like a dusty deputy.
@Richard-wk9le
@Richard-wk9le 3 жыл бұрын
I think if you look at other systems they all use gravity to get the chips down but exit the air upward.
@Wordsnwood
@Wordsnwood 8 жыл бұрын
Ryan, that is some impressive problem solving. You worked the problem until it worked. But it still looks like way too much effort to me - especially having to lug that planer off it for emptying. I was looking at your shop at the 5:49 mark in the video and I wonder if you have considered swapping the location of the planer with the location of that wood storage cart.. Most of that wood looks like it would easily slip under the bench. Why not build some low wood storage carts (or shelves) and put the wood under the bench. Then you can put the planer over where that cart is now and have a taller planer cart. (I have back issues so anything to avoid all that bending and lifting!)
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Wordsnwood (Art Mulder) thanks! Well for me, I just don't use the planer enough to dedicate floor space to it. 99% of my projects are made from plywood and if I look back in the last year, I bet I wouldn't of filled the container yet. Lifting it off isn't a big beal considering I use to have to lift it every time I used it before I made the cabinet. Oh and space your talking about is reserved for a full lumber rack, watch for that video;) Thanks for watching Ryan
@Wordsnwood
@Wordsnwood 8 жыл бұрын
+Shop built Hard to argue with more lumber! ;-)
@my520graj
@my520graj 8 жыл бұрын
Your shop is small? HAHAHA. Come to UK, you gonna see what the small shop mean. Nice vid.
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+my520graj small compared to my last shop;) Thanks for watching Ryan
@stevensrspcplusmc
@stevensrspcplusmc 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t get it.. looks like pain in the back and too much trouble emptying the chips !
@LemonySnicket-EUC
@LemonySnicket-EUC 3 жыл бұрын
Add a drawer
@marknylund1808
@marknylund1808 8 жыл бұрын
I would try to reduce the blockage of the output screen by moving it to the top of the box right next to the planer
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Mark Nylund yeah, thought of that after, top would be way better Thanks for watching Ryan
@briantaylor9266
@briantaylor9266 8 жыл бұрын
Great build! I have the same planer, and took the lazy man's approach to chip collection. My planer is on a cart with a flip top, so the planer/cart will roll under my bench when it's flipped down (no lifting - I'm not as young as you). When I plane, I use 4" rigid PVC pipe to direct the chips into my Rubbermaid trash can. I use a 3'X3' piece of non-woven geotextile bungied over the top of the trash can to act as a filter. It works great, and when I'm done the chips are already in the garbage can :-)
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Brian Taylor nice! I like to complicate thing;) Thanks for watching!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 8 жыл бұрын
Sweet Build! I love the design! odd question. what temp are your lights?
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Wood By Wright thank you! I use the 6500k
@SAWMetalworks
@SAWMetalworks 8 жыл бұрын
Vertical V-shaped baffles(like angle iron stood on end) of progressive height(2" tall through 2" shorter than the interior) mounted to both the main compartments floor and ceiling would greatly reduce your blow by.
@SAWMetalworks
@SAWMetalworks 8 жыл бұрын
The v portion pointing to rewards the exit path so the v's interior can catch chips/shavings.
@kmooney1954
@kmooney1954 8 жыл бұрын
Nice video and great perseverance. I have the same planer and have made several collection setups (2 by John Heisz, Jay Bates etc.). They worked well, but always produced some side issue... emptying, taking up space etc. I ended up with Jay Bate's and David Picciuto's originals - a pillow case! Just attached to the end of an extension hose (from the planer exhaust) and it works like a charm. Easy on/off (if needed), easy to keep out of the way and easy empting. $1 from the thrift store!
@MWAWoodworks
@MWAWoodworks 8 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see that someone else experienced the same thing I did with trying to manage the dust on that planer! I wasted a ton of time trying to build a cart/box to collect the chips. I got basically the same results you did, which I was not satisfied with. Plus the box leaked air out of every small crack it could find. I tried sealing it with caulk and foam, but around the doors I still had too much air and fine dust escaping. I finally just decided to hook the planer right up to my dust collector and run it without the dust collector turned on. Works MUCH better. My lungs are thanking me :-). The chip ejector on the Dewalt is SO powerful, in my opinion its just too powerful to effectively collect the chips. That seems strange to say, but its true IMO. Great video!
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+MWA Woodworks dust collector is by far a better setup because you get the filter. I only have one small dust collector at my table saw which is not plumped to the side shop where the planer is. This solution works well for me because I hardly ever use the planer and this keeps it out of the way and keeps me from blowing the chips all over shop like what I did before. Thanks for watching Ryan
@rowey1992
@rowey1992 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan, great effort but you need think about what you are trying to achieve here. All any set up like this will achieve is basic chip collection. You are not capturing any of the harmful dust particles that are invisible to the eye. This system is just pumping the harmful dust back into the air for you to breathe, and it is not even capturing the chips that effectively. Really, just hook up a vac straight to the planer. It wont capture the fine dust either, but it will work better as a chip collector....and way simpler for you. Google Bill Pentz and read up on dust collection, you only have one set one lungs.
@dignan17
@dignan17 4 жыл бұрын
How much is that screen doing? Seems like you're blasting all the small, dangerous particles into the air. Maybe you could find a HEPA filter to attach to that wind screen?
@joecox9958
@joecox9958 4 жыл бұрын
I have similar problem when I make table saw dust box. For planer I just use Toro blower bag that has 4" import thus a direct fit, the key is we need larger area and density material to allow air out while keep dust in, the window screen is no good.
@vincent7520
@vincent7520 8 жыл бұрын
It seems that a pouch made of material would have done the job : it could be put in the box for easier hacking if needed. Then again, thanx for posting.
@jean-marclabonte2844
@jean-marclabonte2844 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent Job. I admire your problem solving skills. I like the music too. Thanks for posting the build.
@SMCDisaster
@SMCDisaster 8 жыл бұрын
Why not make a dust separator like Mathias Wandels design and have your chips feed in the side and the screen on the top exit hole. Takes care of your small space, chip collection, easy empty and little to no dust
@ginoasci2876
@ginoasci2876 5 жыл бұрын
You posted this in March of 2016, it is now December 2018.....what kind of set up are you using now after more than two and a half years? I'm thinking you've graduated to a better collection system...yes.
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 5 жыл бұрын
Actually I still use this set up. Besides being cumbersome to empty, it works really well. I like how the whole set up fits under my workbench as well. If you use your planner alot it my get to annoying to empty but for lite use, it works well.
@MattDiresta
@MattDiresta 8 жыл бұрын
love seeing all the attempts! great work! glad it worked out out as well as it did! Rock on!
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Matt Diresta thanks Matt!
@chipbarkhouse7702
@chipbarkhouse7702 2 жыл бұрын
Attach to a dust collector that uses centrifugal force.
@DanPrudlow
@DanPrudlow 8 жыл бұрын
I have this planer...almost 100lbs...can't imagine having to lift it off there every time to empty chips. Definitely a cool concept though!
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Dan Prudlow before this cabinet, I had to lift every time I wanted to use it, this is a step up for me:) Thanks for watching Ryan
@DanPrudlow
@DanPrudlow 8 жыл бұрын
+Shop built I hear ya...mine currently sits on top of the box it came it...still trying to decide what kind of cart/stand to build...so many options!
@Mitermikeswoodshop
@Mitermikeswoodshop 8 жыл бұрын
nice job revising it until you had a product you were satisfied with.
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Miter Mike's Woodshop thank you!
@francisbarnett
@francisbarnett 8 жыл бұрын
would an old dust sheet made into a large bag work better for collection and disposal of planner shavings? I like your well made video / design and problem solving process.
@ajbax96
@ajbax96 8 жыл бұрын
for emptying: what if u had a way to plug the screen and then hooked up dust collection to the input side and just suck out all the dust
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+AJ Baxter I'm sure that would work but my dust collector only has a small container so it would be to much of a hassle... Thanks for watching
@jocmarti
@jocmarti 8 жыл бұрын
That whole setup would drive me insane, but I understand you've got to work with what you have.
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+jocmarti yeah I can see how this wouldn't be good for most people but one thing I forgot to mention is I hardly ever use the planer, 99% of my projects are out of plywood so this setup is really not a big beal for me at all. Thanks for watching Ryan
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+jocmarti yeah I can see how this wouldn't be good for most people but one thing I forgot to mention is I hardly ever use the planer, 99% of my projects are out of plywood so this setup is really not a big beal for me at all. Thanks for watching Ryan
@CharmleysChopShop
@CharmleysChopShop 2 жыл бұрын
Man you are not afraid of the blade on a table saw lol
@protect.your.digits.creations
@protect.your.digits.creations 8 жыл бұрын
Why don't you put a port or blast gate attached where your screen is now and use your cyclone to catch the small amount ,
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Gregg Voice of Reason that's not a bad idea;) Thanks for watching Ryan
@LivefreeanddiyTv
@LivefreeanddiyTv 8 жыл бұрын
4th time is a charm :)... After thinking about it a bit, I wonder if it would have been better to put the vent on top, so the dust would have to contend with gravity as well. Either way, good job, glad you got it working!
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Live Free and DIY I though about that right after I posted the video too, would be way better:) Thanks for watching Ryan
@breakinn403
@breakinn403 8 жыл бұрын
Expanding on the screen on the top idea. How about a couple of 6” PVC stacks about 12 “ tall (or shorter) with screen caps. It would be more difficult for the dust to swirl in the stack and gravity would be your friend. Just a thought.
@nathangold9775
@nathangold9775 8 жыл бұрын
Two Home Depot buckets on top of each other (one upside down) with a Thien baffle between them and hose going in from side of top bucket to create a cyclone affect works much better. Exhaust is through the top (bottom of upside down bucket). I hook it up to my shop vac to let its filter keeps fine dust from exhaust. When not inI use you could just take the buckets apart and stack under your bench.
@chuckhart8970
@chuckhart8970 8 жыл бұрын
Hey it works. You didn't have pay some company a ton of money and it fits under your bench. Great job at problem solving. When you get famous you can pay someone to solve the problems. Until then...it works
@billonthehill9984
@billonthehill9984 5 жыл бұрын
...I think what I liked about your setup is how you are saving floor space by storing the planer beneath the workbench. I too have a small workshop & the Dewalt DW735X is on my wish list. Currently I am exploring different ideas on chip & dust collection. Your design is sound, once you worked it out... I will most likely be putting my planer on the Dewalt DW7350 mobile stand & roll it into a corner when not in use. I will make my own dust/chip collector using a plastic 40 gal. waste container & modifying a plywood top to accept a 4" hose & make a vent on the opposite side. The key is to keep it simple but functional, hopefully. I use a Rigid 6.5 HP shop vac for my Delta table saw with a 2.5" dust port... The thickness planer will absolutely get its own chip/dust collection & will not require any suction if done correctly. Great post, thanks... :-)
@Cactusworkshopchannel
@Cactusworkshopchannel 8 жыл бұрын
Very nice problem solving! It looks great. I was thinking of some overkill solutions but for sure this is quite simple and does the job pretty well so why bother on complicating it a lot for a 4% more of efficiency :D you got to the spot!
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Cactus! workshop for sure, I really don't use it enough to get to fussy;) Thanks for watching Ryan
@williamdavis437
@williamdavis437 Жыл бұрын
i love the honesty
@tthomasokc
@tthomasokc 8 жыл бұрын
I just picked up this same planer on cragslist for $300 have been kicking around options for managing the dust. Great video.
@Rollie80
@Rollie80 4 жыл бұрын
Where the hell ya been?
@toolify
@toolify 8 жыл бұрын
Nice. I gotta make something like this. And man, you make lifting that machine look like a piece of cake!
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+FastEasySmartTOOL thank you! I've had lots of practice;)
@austinhastings8793
@austinhastings8793 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being honest enough to show what didn't work, and the evolution of the project. I'm not a fan of the background music - it's a little too loud. I like the lift-and-drag roller idea - that's worth stealing.
@steveandalyssa
@steveandalyssa 8 жыл бұрын
Great video! Definitely going to make me one tomorrow 😊 did you try putting a strip of the foam/rubber tape between the removable lid and the baffle? It looked like some of the dust might have snuck in through there.
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 8 жыл бұрын
maybe, use some 4" pvc with mini holes drilled in it to pass air to the secondary chamber(cap the end in the primary chamber) drill holes small enough with plenty of holes might do the trick:>)
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Russ Veinot I think anything small will get plugged in the first stage Thanks for watching Ryan
@ou8nucks630
@ou8nucks630 8 жыл бұрын
I just recently built something similar to this myself. I've got an infeed and outfeed that are on hinges and swing down outta the way when not in use. it's a 2 chamber system that catches most of the chips in the first one and exhausts out under the infeed through a filter. Great design buddy, I really enjoy your videos.
@oxintheshop
@oxintheshop 8 жыл бұрын
Great idea I have the same planer. So this is getting me thinking of some ideas to do with my planer.
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+The Ox In The Shop thank you:)
@immathug
@immathug 8 жыл бұрын
I see the wood shavings stayed in the cabinet, but what about the saw dust? How good or bad is it? I have been in need of something similar to what you built.
@GlassImpressions
@GlassImpressions 8 жыл бұрын
Great trial. Square objects are hard to make into DC units. I like the casters!
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Glass Impressions I found that the hard way;) Thanks for watching Ryan
@noncched6839
@noncched6839 8 жыл бұрын
I have one of these that needs dust collection. I will try this out.
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Mr Woodworker No.1 if you have the room, there are lots of options out there for a full size stand. Thanks for watching Ryan
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Mr Woodworker No.1 if you have the room, there are lots of options out there for a full size stand. Thanks for watching Ryan
@Mrfreezeee1
@Mrfreezeee1 8 жыл бұрын
I just let it fly then hit it with the leaf blower ,great compost for the garden and the grass
@M4tt1mus
@M4tt1mus 7 жыл бұрын
Cool project. Have you thought about baffling the input from the planer?
@neilf4128
@neilf4128 8 жыл бұрын
why not use a dust deputy and shop vac?
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Neil F still need a cart for the planner:) Thanks for watching Ryan
@SawDustMakerRJM
@SawDustMakerRJM 8 жыл бұрын
That test piece of wood was getting pretty thin. Hope you can use if for something. Great video as always Ryan.
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Saw Dust Maker might be tricky to find a use for thoughs pieces....
@SouthernGinger
@SouthernGinger 8 жыл бұрын
Neat idea, thanks for showing us your thought process.
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+SouthernGinger thanks for watching!
@mihumus
@mihumus 8 жыл бұрын
Very nice solution.
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Humus Workshop thank you!
@colehudson7799
@colehudson7799 8 жыл бұрын
In this type of system, what actually causes the chips to fall out of the air stream is the air stream slowing down, so the chips are no longer entrained. That's why it's getting caught in the corners and stuff. I think your best bet is just more volume, unfortunately (if you wanted to improve it, at least). Or maybe a bunch more baffles, as the air against the wall of each baffle is essentially not moving.
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Cole Hudson I agree, but I think it will be good enough for how much I use the planer.
@jbrogham
@jbrogham 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome idea. It was nice to see your process from the first concept to your last.
@Sebastopolmark
@Sebastopolmark 8 жыл бұрын
GREAT project Ryan. Way to stick with a problem and get it solved. Looked like you had a bit of Matthias W, Jay B and Steve R working in your head. If airflow becomes a problem, maybe another screen on the side might help. Personally, I would just get a dustpan and empty in on the floor rather than lifting the planer.
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Sebastopolmark thanks! before I made the cabinet, I had to lift the planer every time I used the planer so this is a step up;)
@frankorona1
@frankorona1 8 жыл бұрын
Great project!! improve its slip if you put wheels.
@jeffforbes3772
@jeffforbes3772 8 жыл бұрын
I get why you built it with the low profile for storage when you’re jot using it. If storage was not an issue, do you think if you built it bigger you would have the same problem? I'm wondering if a larger collection void would help to offset the high volume of air pushed around by the blower. Or at that point would you just hook up your Dust vac and not worry about it?Anyway, I enjoy your vids. Thanks.
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Jeff Forbes John hiesz has a large one that seems to work well. After I posted this video I saw a video made by make something that just used a filter bag which also seems to be a good option. Thanks for watching Ryan
@TheMarcball
@TheMarcball 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Ryan, this was a very very inspiring video, the improv and problem-solving, I think, is very refreshing and very well conducted. you've shown talent at designing and building before (like the Thein baffle if I remember right) but I find it particularly thought-provoking to see you sequentially zero in on the "good enough" solution. I see some YT niche there, at least one that fits my appetite, as I consider YT the main culprit in metamorphasizing my brain from "pretty scared of trying anything DIY" to "well I guess i could try this or that". Anyway, thanks for sharing and Keep on trucking ! (from France)
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+MakeFix thank you very much for the kind words! It really does mean a lot:)
@sachae321
@sachae321 8 жыл бұрын
Ryan, you might benefit from another strip of the foam vertically on the edge of the baffle. Looks like there's an air path from the big compartment straight to the windowed exit especially when the air blows increasing the internal pressure and that pushes the middle of the removable board out a bit.
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+sachae321 your right! Not sure how I missed that Thanks for watching Ryan
@BrunoBsso
@BrunoBsso 8 жыл бұрын
I like how you had a problem, you tried a new approach, you had another problem, and tried a now approach, and how you learnt from that. The final solution looks excellent and very very good. Thanks for sharing this experience without cutting out those parts!
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Bruno Sacomani thanks for watching:)
@Shopcat22
@Shopcat22 8 жыл бұрын
Great idea. Thanks for sharing.
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Waylight Creations thank you!
@sachae321
@sachae321 8 жыл бұрын
Should have said - awesome project and explanation of thought processes too.
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+sachae321 thank you!
@FXRPIONEER
@FXRPIONEER 8 жыл бұрын
I saw that table saw on the home depot website. How do you like it? Sturdy enough?
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+FXRPIONEER yes, a few minor negatives about the saw but I still recommend it because you really can't get another cabinet table saw with cast iron top for that kind of money. Thanks for watching Ryab
@120Livi
@120Livi 8 жыл бұрын
is it planner or planer? if it's planner that'd explain why my Gumtree searches for a planer are coming up short!
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Livi120 definite typo;) thank for letting me know, all fixed.
@MikeKapotsy
@MikeKapotsy 8 жыл бұрын
Nice job Ryan. That's using your noggen!
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Mike Kapotsy thanks mike!
@mikemcdonald5147
@mikemcdonald5147 7 жыл бұрын
was there a reason why you didnt just use the shop vac you have?
@M4tt1mus
@M4tt1mus 7 жыл бұрын
shop vacs dont handle lots of dust well.
@BruceAUlrich
@BruceAUlrich 8 жыл бұрын
Cool concept.
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Bruce A. Ulrich thanks!
@phukincack1
@phukincack1 8 жыл бұрын
To empty, how about putting some type of blast gate on the side, then you can just hook your shop vac to it. Saves you from having to take apart every time you need to empty. Also, instead of a slot, did you think about just some drill holes? Would make it harder for the large chips to get through.
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+Robert Navarro the blast gate would be a good idea but the only dust collector I have only has a small container and wouldn't really be worth transferring. I did consider small hole but I think anything smaller than than the chip size in the first stage would probably just get plugged up. Thanks for watching Ryan
@anklebiterwoodworks2818
@anklebiterwoodworks2818 8 жыл бұрын
Neat!
@offgrid70
@offgrid70 8 жыл бұрын
Very cool project!!!
@Shopbuilt
@Shopbuilt 8 жыл бұрын
+R Tavares thank you!
@phukincack1
@phukincack1 8 жыл бұрын
But, awesome job. Gives me something to think about.
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