DeWalt vs Milwaukee Rear Handle Saws | 2830 vs DCS578X1

[@eastint]

I have the Dewalt and it might be my favorite cordless tool I own. Very impressive saw!

[@fongsa1yuk]

The most important thing that they miss is to check the temperature after each use. Running a higher voltage with lower current is cooler and doesn't stress the battery and components that much. When you run high current with low voltage power draw, you will need thicker wires and there are more voltage drops along the way. Milwaukee's battery runs hot and sometimes bogs down or it does auto-shutdown to protect its cells. We did not see this because they did not do stress test both saw. You can see this problem on other reviews. Again, they may be drawing the same amount of power but higher voltage with lower current draw is way way better. It's just physics.

[@legendarypillow1450]

True. This is why it is not recommended to use dewalt’s 15ah battery in smaller 20 volt tools. It’s just not safe and efficient for your tool. It also puts a hole in your wallet, like 300 dollars for 15ah? At least it isn’t worse than Milwaukee lol.

[@tanman102]

I have owned that DeWalt DCS577 for several years... and it still impresses me with its power, balance and great controls, rugged rafter hook and the weight is great when compared to corded worm drives. Spot on assessment about the oversized handle, as that feels better than great- its just perfect. Not discussed was the depth and bevel adjustment controls: The DeWalt ones are oversized and several years in, they are still smooth and easy to use. They are just as easy to use on a cold snowy November day with gloves on as they are on a sunny, hot July afternoon. It's not an exaggeration when I say that this saw could make you question if you need to even bother running cords for your trusty Mag77.

[@jeffpowell8308]

I own the Milwaukee and I love it. They have improved the performance of battery tech to point that I've had to eat my words from 15 years ago. Battery powered tools have replaced corded for me. Milwaukee has the best platform with the most innovative line up of power tools on the market today.

[@RedondoBeach2]

How many years do the batteries last, or is it a question of how many charging cycles?

[@jeffpowell8308]

@@RedondoBeach2 battery life is dependant on several factors. Mostly it comes down to the heat that is created when using the tools. The more current that is called for by the tool the the hotter the batteries get. Heat is the enemy of the cells in the battery. Fortunately Milwaukee and most other brands have computer chips that monitor the batteries while in use and communicate that to the tool. If your pushing a tool beyond its limits it will shut off to prevent damage to one or both. I've been on the Milwaukee platform for over 10 years now and I've yet to have any of the 18 volt batteries die on me. I can't say that about the 12 volt. I've had one of those die.

[@RedondoBeach2]

@@jeffpowell8308 Thanks for your your insight and sharing your first hand experience with Milwaukee tools and batteries. A couple follow up questions for you. First, can you give me a rough idea of approximately how often or how many hours your tools have been used on an annual basis during the 10 years of ownership? I'm looking for a rough average. I understand that there might have been years when the tools were use a lot and other years when they possibly sat on the shelf and collected dust, so just the average usage over 10 years would be great to know, to give me an understanding of what to expect if I buy a Milwaukee circular saw. Second, would you recommend a circular saw with the blade on the left or right for a right-handed person? I believe Milwaukee makes circular saws with blades on the left or right, but I have only seen the smaller saw with the blade configured on the left side and the larger saw configured with the blade on the right side. I'm not sure how I should think about the left vs right side configuration when considering a circular saw. Please explain the reason for your recommendation.

[@jeffpowell8308]

@@RedondoBeach2 I'm ambidextrous so the question of blade right for me is only a question of what does the needs of the project at hand demand. I own both left blade and right blade saws ( 6 1/2" and 7 1/4" blade left and a 7 1/4" blade right). I use them all on a as needed basis nearly every day. The rear handled 7 1/4" blade left is the most powerful saw of any kind I've ever owned or used in all of my 30+ years of using power tools. I only ever had an issue once with the 7 1/4" blade right as it would over heat when used in normal conditions and as a result shut down to prevent overload. I sent it to Milwaukee and they sent me a knew one that had not had the same problem ever. I've never had any of my first string teams sit on a shelf for years. I have back ups but none of those are mentioned in my comments.

[@jeffpowell8308]

@@RedondoBeach2 is advantageous to have both in certain circumstance depending on what you are planning to do. It has to do with the bevel cuts you might be doing. I've found it to be invaluable to have both because I do projects of every scope and style. Everything from building decks to breaking down sheets of birch plywood for custom made cabinets. If I had to recommend just one is say the one that is most powerful so that it can handle the most arduous of tasks. That is the blade left rear handle 7 1/4".

[@1on1c5]

You honestly cannot go wrong with either saw. Love both products.

[@minnesotaman3]

Diablo makes 2 different framing 24 tooth blades can you guys test them to see if there is any difference, one is a regular framing blade the other is a "Demo demon ultimate framing and demolition" blade theres a 5 dollar difference between the blades is it worth it?

[@akaredcrossbow]

My Dewalt DCS577 doesn’t have a LED light, are you positive that the Dewalt has an LED light? My DCS577 is about a year and a half old and no light, did Dewalt upgrade the saw with a light? I’m very curious now! Thank You!

[@mytoolbox871]

no light oj tje dewalt, they misspoke

[@domlopez3552]

I have the Dewalt work drive and makes me forget I’m working and not making toast when using a diablo blade!

[@Shmankafy]

I'd love to see you guys bring in a Plumbing/HVAC Contractor and put the New Milwaukee Super Hawg against the DeWalt Flexvolt Right Angle Joist Drill!

[@d5morgan]

I own the dewalt saw and love it, awhile back my boss bought the Milwaukee saw and here and there I tried it and was impressed with the power but found at times it couldn't handle some rip cuts I would make with my dewalt but none the less both are very good saws but I run all dewalt for all my tools

[@landonkuenzel4853]

As a contractor using both but primarily dewalt I have noticed that the main difference are the front handles and the blade depth set, it wasn’t mentioned in the video, but Milwaukee goes by 1/4” and dewalt goes by 1/8”. Makes a big difference if you can’t cut deeper than the material you are cutting.

[@ericking4072]

I'VE USED THE 7-1/4"DEWALT WORMDRIVE 60V.(BATT GOES IN CENTER)TOTALLY KICKASS SAW.I'VE ONLY BEEN CUTTIN SINCE 1980.

[@matthewhood3243]

Love my Milwaukee rear handle!!! As well as all their other tools that run on the 18v system! One platform of battery! I'm a cordless tool Milwaukee snob now....lol

[@Lkom24]

Aren't we all? I work all day with these tools and watch them on KZbin, who would have ever thought

[@dougcjohn]

Late to the video comments; as all your reviews, this one was a great review and these two both are the big dogs even a few years later. Although I'd agree with @Fong Sai Yuk on the volts vs current: low volts / high current is hotter and higher stressed vs high volts / low current cooler and less stressed. High volts also tends to provide more deep cycle power. I've used both and agree on the positive points indicated for the Milwaukee; nice points and noteworthy, although minimally better than the DeWalt in these points. The DeWalt overall feels & handles better for my hand/eye usage. In aged or damp material, or any pushing of the cuts the DeWalt 60v shines and rarely bogs or stalls indicating to me it's providing more power/torque... due to higher volts. Decision comes down more to the platform you're already using, both are great saws! Overall, the Milwaukee platform provides much better nailers of all sizes, no contest in nailers, these are DeWalt's weakest tools ... the new 2022 DeWalt Pin 23g nailer is the only decent nailer DeWalt makes and hopefully is a indicator of the next generation to come for DeWalt, till then Milwaukee easily rules in Nailers. DeWalt seems to be better in the non-nailer tools in performance, ergonomics and minimal size. I have the older 60v 575 Right, later both the 577 Left Rear & 578 Right.

[@mikepower41]

I frame for a living and I’ve run the DeWalt since it hit the market. I’ve had both red and yellow tools in the past. My current setup is red except for Flexvolt tools where they’re available because there really is no comparison for heavy use. For a homeowner? Whatever works! But for earning my paycheck every day? Give me the power so I can get it done faster and with less hassle. The guys I frame with have been running the Makita 36v saws almost as long as I’ve run my DeWalt and the Makitas definitely have better ergonomics and lighter weight. And nowhere near the power. We were excited for Milwaukee’s saw to hit the market because our company has been transitioning away from Makita to Milwaukee for everything but the saws. We run everything cordless we can. Finally got a Milwaukee saw a few months back. We run our saws hard all day every day and the DeWalt is still the clear power winner. I don’t know what kind of dimensional lumber you were cutting for your test, but we deal with No. 2 Doug Fir as the standard here in Utah. Cutting that and cutting engineered lumber all day? Give me the power. The DeWalt is heavy (so is the Milwaukee) and ungainly, but the power is simply undeniable. The guys I work with all agree. The Milwaukee is huge-literally, physically, huge, even compared to the Dewalt. But it does balance a little better. Table friction? As a review component? Ridiculous. If you want a minuscule detail to compare that’s useless to a homeowner but matters to someone who gets paid according to how fast he can frame, how about mentioning that the DeWalt spins up from zero to cutting rpm faster than the Milwaukee? Again, if you’re doing it all day, every day and trying to go as fast as you can, it matters.

[@TheBenjammin]

Dewalt is made by Stanley. You might as well go with Fisher-Price. Also, if you trying to go as fast as you possibly can, it's more than likely your work isn't very good.

[@GregTGolden]

@@TheBenjammin useless comment. Hes a framer...he wants to push his saw thru the wood and not wait for it to chew thru. Whats wrong with that??? Paid by the sqft not by the hour. Whats wrong with dewalt being owned by Stanley?? I guess ferraris are garbage because they are owned by fiat too then? Porsches must be crap because they are owned by VW too right?? That argument is illogical. Its common place for higher end brands to be owned by standard grade brands. The economics of an industry usually dictate that. Stanley has a lot larger market than dewalt ever will, more money coming in.

[@PhilPic01]

@@TheBenjammin dumb comment. If you have no framing experience, you have no business commenting on what he does. As a handyman, I use the DeWalt exclusively for cordless tools, as we needed to pick a brand an stick with it as far as the battery powered tools go. I picked DeWalt because I didn't like them, but wanted to see why everyone else did, where we had a few of our techs go Milwaukee, Craftsman, Porter Cable, etc... Craftsman and Porter Cable guys are hurting, bad. The few Milwaukee guys like their stuff, but sometimea borrow mine, and I ended up borrowing a few of theirs. It's about preferences when you get to the good tools on the common market. Slight differences here and there, with some components coming out better on Milwaukee over DeWalt to where I have a ton of their hand tools and flashlights. I still prefer DeWalt regardless, because the torque on their motors is always top knotch.

[@justinmartin8887]

@@PhilPic01 we aren’t in the carpentry business so I have nothing to say about these saws. What we do is heavy automotive, industrial, and Agricultural equipment building and repairs. As far as power goes, dewalt wins on drills, Milwaukee on impacts and metal saws. The 6” cordless grinders, cordless drills cordless metal saw, and 1/2” mid torque impacts get used heavily and abusively. And the clear and obvious winner for durability is Milwaukee. The 6” cordless grinders are complicated, because both are similar on power, maybe the Milwaukee a little more, but the dewalt is way ahead in ergonomics, size, and balance

[@PhilPic01]

@@justinmartin8887 good points all around. I've just found the differences to be over all minimal. Preferences as far as grip and such. The impacts on Milwaukee are indeed superior, but not enough to have me have several sets with different batteries. Trying to convince a few Craftsman friends to go Milwaukee though.

[@aaronrepper7649]

Both look awesome. Get the one you have the most battery for. Me it's Milwaukee

[@interman7715]

The Milwaukee's battery will heat up a lot because it is drawing around three times the amps to get the same watts as the Dewalt ,this needs to be addressed. High amp draw and consequently heat is a killer of batteries , imho there is no way Milwaukee will be as powerfull as the Dewalt ,I have used the Flexvolt sidewinder and Milwaukee Fuel Gen 2 sidewinder with it's high output battery and there is no comparison. I believe Dewalt chose the correct path a few years ago by increasing voltage to cope with future high draw power tools. Milwaukee has been caught on the back foot and the "high output " batteries are a band aid solution . I am a career carpenter and these are my unbiased observations as I use many different tool brands . Recently Makita has released new 40 volt tools to cope with heavier work loads ,I believe Milwaukee will have to up their game in the future to remain competitive.

[@chriswright-ek5jy]

I’m non biased and appreciate your honest assessment 👍.

[@gs300ondub]

The Milwaukee is basically a copy of the dewalt.

[@mediumgrey1947]

Milwaukee needs to consider copying dewalt upgraded voltages as it is clear with their table and miter saws that 18v isn't enough. Even with running hot on high amps.

[@A1Pariah]

20V is a marketing gimmick. They aren’t actually 20V lol..... still 18v drill. Measured differently.

[@TheJoshuadavis73]

@@ThatAnalogDigital dewalt was actually first that came out.

[@christophercrawford2736]

@@A1Pariah yes but how does that address his comment about table saws and miter saws?

[@mindlessbutcher4182]

Really? Cuz I have it and I for the last 2 months been putting it to work and it has not let me down at all so I want to know if your speaking from experience out in the work set or just a KZbin video?

[@suzesiviter6083]

@@A1Pariah Exactly, all use 4.2 lithium cells, so can only be a multiple of that.

[@mattcable4340]

"Secondary handle ergonomics..." Sorry, don't mean to sound like a smart a** but I got a kick outta that. 99% of the time that's just a carry handle for me, not a distinguishing feature. I think the best choice I made around a decade ago was to commit to M18 and I'm very glad that Milwaukee hasn't made me regret that choice. The tools have just gotten better and better. AND in a pinch I can still run any of them off any battery that fits the system - including several ancient 2.0AH batteries that refuse to give up. Beyond Milwaukee’s commitment to the battery platform I appreciate Milwaukee's design team, they continue to be industry leaders where it counts. If I had one wish it would be that the manufacturing of the product was onshore. I'd pay more for that given equal quality.

[@r0me063]

I’d like to see all three cordless TABLE saw reviewed side by side. I’ve seen a lot of reviews over them but I’ve only seen ONE channel that talks about how flat the table saw top are; and, I happen to agree with them. I’ve own just about everything Milwaukee tool available and like most of them. The top on my Milwaukee table saw is not at flat .. not even close. I don’t see how anyone can get accurate cuts out of it. In order for me to get a fairly close square cut I have to adjust the blade angle to different angles depending on the side I’m making the cut. The table top is higher on the left side of the blade than the right side. Let me know if you guys can make that comparison possible. I like how you guys review tools and the information you put from those reviews. If you guys have already done a side by side comparison than I apologize. I looked for it but could find one on you channel. I did see the Milwaukee table saw review, however, the flatness of the table top was not address. And if having a flat table top doesn’t matter. Than please show me a video as to way. I’m tired of needing one angle if I cutting off the right of the material vs cutting off the left of the material. Please let me know. I think it was be an amazing review

[@Dale37]

Interesting, I have the Milwaukee table saw and have not noticed this. I will be checking it when I get home.

[@r0me063]

Dale86 was your Milwaukee table saw top flat? Or did it have a bunch of valleys and ridges?

[@TheJoshuadavis73]

I'd have to go with dewalt always come out first with tools and very hard to beat for a old model not doing too bad i say.

[@mediumgrey1947]

Every cordless tool I own is red! The Dewalt has WAAYYY more power than the Milwaukee

[@bryanlee3353]

But wilwaukee has so many options on their tools compared to dewalt... I’m on dewalt platform and regretting seeing how Milwaukee for the same tools have so many more functioning options

[@Bigelite094]

I want the milwaukee, but I was playing with the depth knob and the guard. They both felt stiff, was it just the display or is that a good thing?

[@Bigelite094]

@@Protoolreviews Thank you for the reply. I've been wanting a rear handle saw for a while, I have the M18 Framing nailer. I'm hoping they pair up well together.

[@Redsr5]

They’re both really good saws but since I’m alredy on the millwaukee platform then I would have to go with the fuel

[@konamanstudio2447]

All right how much is the Dust adapter for the DeWalt you had that into the person see what the difference is there

[@scanyoursector5731]

I have 2 of the rear handle DeWalts, and the 2nd one I bought last fall came with it! But until cordless vacs become viable, I don't see the use for a vac. That totally defeats the purpose of a cordless saw! I also have the Milwaukee rear handle, and do not use the vac adapter, infact I removed it, it's just in the way!

[@redcenturion88]

Just got my DeWalt DC578 with the 9 AH battery. Next level stuff!

[@brianf9619]

Both are Great Saws , BUT Makita has been running a Fantastic Sale over the last month on their 36v X2 XSR01 rear handle circular saw , for $245.00 you get the kit that includes the saw , dual charger , two 5.0ah batteries , and a bag PLUS two Free 5.0ah batteries , so that's 4 batteries for $245.00 , that puts the Makita on Top in my book , I should have bought 2 , lol ...

[@whatthehellimbored]

I have the DeWalt and it's a beast

[@LKN4WAR]

Tools using higher voltage and less amps are likely to last longer is my guess.

[@dustinconfer4161]

With the currently sale at HD now, at $250 with the battery and charger, and not seeing one for Milwaukee, would you go for the Dewalt at that point? For me I don’t have hardly any Dewalt, but I also don’t have any Milwaukee batteries over 6.0. So seemed like the best option for me, even though my main platform isn’t Dewalt.

[@schm147]

Just bought that exact sale. Perfect opportunity to get into the flexvolt line so I could buy the 60v blower and other stuff

[@purediymaintenance3593]

I am a dewalt fan so dewalt it is for me I am going to be getting one sent to me very soon good review

[@CaseySexton]

I've had the Dewalt saw for a little less than a month and you're going to be shocked by how much power the thing has. If I could do it again I'd buy the exact same saw again. I love it.

[@purediymaintenance3593]

Casey thank you for the tip I not got it yet but I look forward to using it

[@ramzanmohamed8520]

Where is the led light on the dewalt warm drive circular saw

[@atlanta5746]

I see no point in the vacuum port on these saws I wish they kept it like the real worm drive on the bottom of the saw you get no less dust on the cut line but what’s the point of being cordless if you’re attached to a vacuum some jobs make sense but most dont

[@carlosvasques5776]

I like the flexvolt platform,, but the warranty isn’t good; That’s why I switch from dewalt to Milwaukee, because the warranty.

[@jasonm9264]

I’d like to see the new Skilsaw 77 cordless. I am looking at Milwaukee since it’s all I have now. But I’m betting the skilsaw might be better

[@alexvarro3432]

How dose the Hilti compare

[@chadczer]

I am a DeWalt guy all day but we use the Hilti at work for concrete highrise work. Gotta admit it is a better but the price is WAYYY higher.

[@MrJustliketht]

I find it very difficult to make the switch from my skilsaw to a battery powered worm drive... Compare the mag 77 against these !!!

[@danthechippie4439]

What about the cordless skillsaw?

[@MrJustliketht]

@@danthechippie4439 Got the Dewalt wormdrive, still would choose the mag77, just hits and feels different. EDIT: I'm a builder now so I dont use the circ as much as I used to :)

[@serendipityguy]

The Dewalt has the rafter hook which comes in handy for storage

[@morislemus8665]

They both do

[@kazkomperda2118]

Could you run a test on the Kobalt XTR circular saw? I'm quite interested in seeing how it holds up to these 2 saws you guys tested.

[@dw-rh6fb]

I just got the dewalt, but this was a very interesting comparison. I almost wish i went with Milwaukee.

[@antoniomagno3356]

They are wonderful tools, too bad that here in Brazil they are very expensive. I keep my Bosch GKS 20-65 Professional. She close to an electrical outlet has no for anyone kkkk

[@brianslack4045]

Great review, answered a lot of my questions about the dewalt, as I’ve used a coworkers Milwaukee. Looking to buy a worm drive kit and it was between these two. Think I’ll go ahead with the Milwaukee. Wish they went on sale lol Thanks

[@danthechippie4439]

I get that these are rear handled circular saws but i don't believe either are worm drive. You need to look at skillsaw for that

[@tomcat8751]

I had the Milwaukee but when heavy usage, it would hear up (battery) and I had to stop until cool. Disappointment. The Dewalt was recommended and returned the Milwaukee fir the Dewalt and problem solved. Thanks!

[@dewaltonlyrestistrash3934]

DEWALT ALL DAY !!!!!

[@isasakiri3679]

Damn right!

[@mattseymour8637]

Agree!

[@justinmartin8887]

Wow! Biased much?

[@jo_nathan_nation6544]

Some people are just dumb… Milwaukee is much better. I have ran both brands, and with both low grade and their top of the line tool, and Milwaukee is overall the better tool.

[@dewaltonlyrestistrash3934]

@@jo_nathan_nation6544 you’re a Milwaukee fan boy !

[@canedobrazil3209]

DEWALT (STANLEY) vs MILWAUKEE (TTI).

[@danickdesrosiers7338]

As I see from the comments both tools are great and both have a fan base of their own, some swear by yellow others by red. To each their own. As I'm only starting to get in the carpentry trade, this is what makes me unsure on what to buy since some videos are biased from the part of content creators personal preferences. I want to make a good decision based on tool performance and durability in the long term. This video had very good arguing points and made me lean a little bit more on team red but I'm still unsure at this point. Have any of you in the comments had experience with both tools and other battery powered tools between these 2 brands. What are the good and the bad between the 2. Thank you very much.

[@realstaceylewis]

I’m sure you’ve made your decision by now but here’s my take. Both platforms are great. Depending on your trade one may go deeper into that trade than the other as far as carpentry tools. I feel like Milwaukee has more specialty tools for different trades than DeWalt. Dawalt seems to still be a little bulkier than Milwaukee. The reputation for DeWalt is rough and tough vs Milwaukee advanced engineering and refinement. Milwaukee thinks about the little things especially usability. It’s hard to see until You use the tool and then you find out how easy that make certain things. Makes you enjoy the tool more. I’d also say Makita is right there with Milwaukee and as far as Saws I think they are the best. Makita may also have the most expansive line of tools from the bunch and they too like Milwaukee are always trying to stay ahead. They’re miter saws are the best and the new 40V circ saws are the smoothest on the market. Each line has something they’re best at. If I were going into carpentry it would be Makita or Milwaukee for me.

[@cuchanu]

As nice as that DeWalt saw is I would never buy it because the depth adjuster comes loose at random times unless you really pound it tight. I've cut through important things before because I didn't realize it was at max depth all of a sudden.

[@christophercrawford2736]

I’ve never had that issue on the Dewalt circ saws.

[@cuchanu]

Maybe the saw is defective. It's only the cordless worm drive, I've never experienced it on their other saws, or any other saw for that matter, but it's happened several times in this particular saw.

[@allbayfishing9456]

This has been happening to my Milwaukee lately. It sucks bad

[@michaelfahim5878]

I got my Milwaukee for $180 from the big box during the buy more save more event with the tool hack.

[@liamtaylor5122]

as long as they do the job thats all that matters!

[@Jesse-gv9tf]

I think the dewalt takes the prize. Home depot runs the buy more and save more deals on dewalt batteries and having a few of the flexvolt 12 AH is a real game changer. The milwaukee has the 12 ah batteries, but they hardly go on sale and having to drop serious dollars on a few batteries defeats the purpose of running a small business. I guess it comes down to how many batteries you own and are you willing to change platforms.

[@OUTILSCLIPSQC]

Dewalt is best in saw .

[@scanyoursector5731]

good luck running the milwaukee with the 2 ah battery. You will find out the m18's are not all the same! In fact the 2ah won't even run the milwaukee chainsaw. Heck even the 6ah xc overheats within a very short time. I have both saws, and if I had to get rid of one, it's not even close. The milwaukee would be gone in a new york minute!

[@patrickmiller1674]

Still itll work. Its good to use your okd batteries ina crunch.

[@josuelozano645]

No a match.... Dewalt so much power the Milwaukee

[@adrianmarin5101]

Bro, the prices there are so low, is almost double in UK

[@interman7715]

That's because of VAT and being taxed to pay all the Royals and other dole bludgers lol .

[@CP-ok1gv]

Great review. Both are great. I have Milwaukee rear handle, but just got the Makita rear handle (kit + two 5.0s) since I’ve heard it’s higher quality and lighter.

[@georgedavall9449]

Makita baby, Makita !!! 😁

[@Dale37]

I really like my Milwaukee.

[@rrutter81]

my 2 most favorite brands. Milwaukee has an issue with their overheating batteries. Dewalt keeps on trucking.

[@nickdewalt4526]

I used to own the dewalt until it got stolen the other day. I loved it ! Great saw

[@Michael-hn5cj]

Drawing more amperage from the battery is not a good thing. The amount of work a saw does is a measure of how many watts it uses. These saws seem to operate at similar wattages (runtime not mentioned in this video, probably the most important comparison). Volts x amps = watts. If they do the same work why go through all the trouble to make the 60v tools? The difference is heat. When the saw operates at 1/3 the voltage it needs to draw three times the amps off the battery. This creates way more heat and requires more expensive construction. Much harder on the battery as well. The special saw batteries probably use more expensive cells which withstand those conditions better. I don't know what the long term impacts on the battery are. But I would expect it to take longer for the battery to recover from each use, take longer to cool down for a charge. And I wonder how it would last over the years. Shouldn't any of that at least be mentioned in a video for carpenters who are trying to ultimately... make money?

[@ccadama]

@Pro Tool Reviews. Hey Kenny, Clint and Tom. You're not done! What about including the Makita XSR01PT 36V (X2) rear handle style saw in your testing? I can get that Makita as a kit for $249 with saw and blade, two 5.0AH batteries, fan cooled dual port rapid charger and contractor's bag. Hope all you guys and your families stay safe and well.

[@scanyoursector5731]

And that saw would be worthless with one battery, so it's misleading stating two batteries. and the dual port charger is a bare minimum as well. I don't have that saw, but it's a pretty big step down from the two reviewed.

[@Or0s_808]

The Makita is a great saw, I keep it and the cordless Skilsaw in my personal truck. The Makita comes out way more than the Skil. I own the Milwaukee saw in the video but I passed it to one of my crews to use. My brother and business partner runs the Dewalt. I will say the other saws (Milwakuee, Skil and Dewalt) have slightly more power than the Makita but for me Makita makes up for it in ergonomics and weight. Honestly I don't think you can go wrong with any of these saws if you're in a battery platform already. I just happen to have the ability to run all of these saws and the one I gravitated to was the Makita.

[@mattk7827]

Just bought this dewalt saw. Looking forward to using it!

[@ruggiero1371]

I would have to disagree with your reviews for for a few reasons one the line of sight is much clearer clearer and easier to see with the Milwaukee the dewalt is difficult 2 Milwaukee M18 high output batteries yes does give you an advantage with some of the tools but they are all backwards compatible. with the deWalt you can't do that you have to buy the flexvolt battery. 3 the dust collection Adapta is not included with the Dewalt it is with the Milwaukee.4 The run time is longer with the Milwaukee You get more cuts with them Milwaukee than the dewalt. 5 the Milwaukee hands down is a much better saw. But I will give the Walt one point for a great blade These are just my opinions

[@schm147]

What are you disagreeing with? They agreed with all those points in the video

[@TheRsixpilot]

Hey what happened to changing the blades lol

[@OUTILSCLIPSQC]

Now then i have both saw i can sai i like the milwaukee best and the power is very similar the milwaukee bit more

[@ayoitsyayo]

Either way you go, a million times better than a makita

[@jeffalan6339]

The battle of the red's... Hilti nuron Vrs Milwaukee fuel

[@philipjohn4149]

Lol. They hiding the heat problem for Milwaukee

[@heyboss318]

Milwaukee!! Fuckkk yea!!

[@DanielGomez-cf6vk]

Milwaukee all day team red

[@turdferguson2839]

They're both good, but the Milwaukee is just a little bit better. Milwaukee is better built, better battery technology and better warranty.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Milwaukee's better everything.

[@audenwang4156]

they are displaying wrong model

[@adanilenko7065]

Dewalt does not have a light like you guys mentioned. Not sure about milwakee

[@harveyhouse9652]

I sold my Dewalt to buy a Milwaukee and the Milwaukee is a lot more versatile however it definitely doesn't have the same power. If your mainly cutting in roofs then 100% get the Dewalt. im due to get it again as the Milwaukee lacks power

[@philipjohn4149]

Lol. Milwaukee HO at 18 v is a joke compared to dewalt 60v. None of these reviews test the tool at its highest capacity. Milwaukee will damage the battery from heat. They cant be used constantly. HO is good for small jobs... but a huge cost and kills a 300 dollar battery.

[@Joethetoolguy]

The makita worm drive style still reigns supreme to me.

[@sickovelasco5072]

Flex volt !

[@datsun4x]

Its kind of a flawed comparison without even mentioning the makita and how they compare to it, especially since it's the standard that both of these were designed to compete against

[@jslay8319]

Dewalt can say what they want but those 60v batteries are not backwards compatible. We've burnt up at least 5 20v drills at work with them. Maybe okay for quick spurts with long cool down times in between but don't expect to run them like you do with the 20v xr battery without frying them. Multiple tool review channels have already experienced it as well. VCG construction is one that comes to mind.

[@patrickmiller1674]

The 60v line has a powerful tool line up, that makes the investment into the platform still worth it. The tools i run, with exception To the mini blower, and impact drill, are on the 60 v line. Heavy duty construction only.

[@christophercrawford2736]

That’s probably due to longer run times allowing you to abuse the tool for a longer time. I use my flexvolt batteries on my 20v tools without issue. So does FinishCarpentryTV.

[@macbook802]

The dewalt has laser guidance, which no one even mentioned

[@schm147]

What? No it doesn't

[@davidnflowers]

Lol i see these saws in the midwest too

[@aessu]

Wheres Makita????

[@simono.1970]

and Ridgid!!!!

[@TheJoshuadavis73]

Im guessing because dewalt started the rear handle cordless and milwaukee more recent

[@J.Wick.]

should be retested to include the new Metabo HPT RH Saw.

[@georgebrow3002]

Dewalt is more powerful should of been draw

[@paulnicholas5082]

Walk kee.... nuff said. And yes I can spell...

[@marcorosiles]

And makita???????

[@ЕмилДамянов-з5ы]

To real the test nex time when you put 12 Ah on Milwaukee put and 12 Ah on DeWalt it will be the real

[@andyd9199]

It either is or isn’t worm drive there’s no worm drive style

[@brianlutz7813]

Corded still better

[@lucduchesne9869]

Metabo 36v

[@TheXJthatCould]

I use the m18 cutoff saw at work and the piece of shit always overheats

[@wahyuSatria]

mantpa im live in indonesia

[@wahyuSatria]

@@Protoolreviews sama sama

[@playboxxtv6287]

rear handled saw - the must stupid invention ever which is abtle to crack your wrist. please leave this BS in US

[@wadesipes9321]

I’m heavy into the Milwaukee platform but the dewalt saw is more powerful, noticeably, than my Milwaukee