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@purebaldness
@purebaldness 2 ай бұрын
3:09 - compelling 13:05 - curious 14:52 - curious 25:38 - curious 26:52 - curious 27:43 - curious 30:13 - curious 33:16 - compelling (John edition) 34:51 - curious 38:18 - curious 38:27 - curious 40:57 - curious 41:04 - curious 44:51 - curious 45:47 - curious 48:31 - curious 49:29 - curious 55:09 - compelling 1:02:09 - curious 1:10:11 - curious 1:25:25 - compelling 1:41:16 - *bespoke* 1:55:41 - in the here and now (Oliver edition) 2:00:59 - curious 2:02:14 - curious
@ntDelta
@ntDelta 2 ай бұрын
if it was up to me, sir. You would getting some jail time for things like this. xD
@purebaldness
@purebaldness 2 ай бұрын
​@@apfelingoNot so far. The coveted *BESPOKE* is powerful, so they must use it sparingly.
@DeonvanHeerdenMusic
@DeonvanHeerdenMusic 2 ай бұрын
King
@brettboi3730
@brettboi3730 2 ай бұрын
Quite the compelling breakdown you've made there, good sir
@goldie819
@goldie819 2 ай бұрын
curious
@Silvar55x
@Silvar55x 2 ай бұрын
Regarding why it took Microsoft this long to refresh the Series X: Console makers would have to commit to a set number of wafers of the APU in advance in order to reserve capacity and ensure supply. They would not be able to cancel those reservations on a whim - even if the console sold poorly. Maybe it took this long for Microsoft to start running out of the 7nm supply they had committed to before launch (or soon after it)?
@Phoenix_1991
@Phoenix_1991 2 ай бұрын
It would also explain how the PS5 got there sooner since they simply sold better and more so could commit to a change of chips sooner.
@concinnus
@concinnus 2 ай бұрын
@@Phoenix_1991 Greater sales also just generate economies of scale more easily. The more quickly you sell consoles, the more economical frequent adjustments will be.
@epobirs
@epobirs 2 ай бұрын
Not just the SOC but also the board it lives on and other items that changed for the revision. A follow-on question is whether they were committed to the 6nm production and its board and had to warehouse the inventory for a year or more until original Series X inventory in the retail channel started getting low.
@yomamasohot6411
@yomamasohot6411 2 ай бұрын
Makes sense. The Xbox consoles sold piss poor numbers. But doesn't that mean that they will be reserving an even smaller capacity considering it isn't selling well at all and they already plan to launch a 2026 next generation console?
@victory7763
@victory7763 2 ай бұрын
​@@yomamasohot6411they'll have to tread carefully
@Alcatraz760
@Alcatraz760 2 ай бұрын
I suspect it took them this long to get to 6nm because it took them this long to sell all their 7nm orders. Sony sells PS5s so much faster they were able to get rid of 7nm stock faster.
@rivix7546
@rivix7546 2 ай бұрын
That's my take as well. Be it from slow hardware sales, over projection or maybe they got an insane deal on their 7nm and just been sitting on stock. There's a million reasons why they had them but I think it's safe to say they were sitting on a bunch of 7nm so why upgrade if they are already paid for? Their plan was probably will move to 6 when we sell through 7 and they have done that
@x100bullets
@x100bullets 2 ай бұрын
Your speculation makes a lot of sense. I would have to think you likely hit the nail on the head.
@WayStedYou
@WayStedYou 2 ай бұрын
they would've got a discount for ordering like 30m or 40m chips and likely only just got sold through that now before swapping to 6nm yes
@NiGHTS1980
@NiGHTS1980 2 ай бұрын
This is what I speculated as well.
@Blindsyde5762
@Blindsyde5762 2 ай бұрын
Good point
@SecretStages
@SecretStages 2 ай бұрын
I agree with that more detailed graphics make it harder to "scan" a room for where to go. Playing Black Myth Wukong at the moment is a good example for this.
@goldie819
@goldie819 2 ай бұрын
Yeah it's been a problem for a long time. That's why "detective mode" was such a fad. Most of the graphical detail they've been adding since, like, the PS3 hasn't been in service of gameplay, so it just obscures things.
@notesscrotes4360
@notesscrotes4360 2 ай бұрын
Sometimes looking for stuff in Cyberpunk 2077 was a huge pain in the ass because of all the random junk that was there for decoration.
@SivTeaze
@SivTeaze 2 ай бұрын
​@@notesscrotes4360starfield is worse in that aspect
@lockekappa500
@lockekappa500 2 ай бұрын
@@notesscrotes4360 Cyberpunk does a good job with it's quest markers, except for the few times it doesnt. (Cough cough door locks)
@deschain1910
@deschain1910 2 ай бұрын
@@notesscrotes4360 This is both a good example and bad example. Cyberpunk has this "problem" but it's also fully in service to the world, so I wouldn't get rid of it. Chaos and clutter is part of the world-building in Night City.
@AbysmalEnd
@AbysmalEnd 2 ай бұрын
JOHN you are loved don't let that Boris idiot get to you! I've been watching for close to a decade and I cant imagine DF without you!
@TheAlgonquin-z6f
@TheAlgonquin-z6f 2 ай бұрын
Timestamp?
@zaq_d
@zaq_d 2 ай бұрын
likewise, I can’t imagine DF without John. Each member of the crew brings something to the whole.
@doriane9184
@doriane9184 2 ай бұрын
​@@zaq_d whats the timestamp where they mention this?
@abd1979o1
@abd1979o1 2 ай бұрын
Who in god’s name is Boris.
@MrWizardGG
@MrWizardGG 2 ай бұрын
​Boris could be a placeholder name ​@abd1979o1
@aleksjenner677
@aleksjenner677 2 ай бұрын
02:20 - nanometer 02:35 - nanometer 05:07 - double nanometer 06:33 - double nanometer 06:37 - nanometer 08:24 - nanometer 10:04 - double nanometer 10:19 - nanometer
@DroneCorpse
@DroneCorpse 2 ай бұрын
and? Did you learn a new word?
@VGJunky
@VGJunky 2 ай бұрын
Regarding Like A Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii, it's worth mentioning that moving the date up was not just a flex; Monster Hunter Wilds actually announced their release date as also being Feb 28 and they probably would have gotten absolutely crushed Still not ideal but at least there's a 1 week gap
@atomickaiser1934
@atomickaiser1934 2 ай бұрын
Yeah this is definitely the reason. They just don't play mh. So they aren't aware of what it's capable of.
@aleksjenner677
@aleksjenner677 2 ай бұрын
3:37 "Right now the Series S fits just perfectly on top of the Series X" - Shows picture of the most crooked stacking job of all time.
@i_amChrisJxmes
@i_amChrisJxmes Ай бұрын
Dirty as hell too lmao
@RetroCrisis
@RetroCrisis 2 ай бұрын
Surely "Analog 64" would have been a more apt name?
@TOMfULLERy3011
@TOMfULLERy3011 2 ай бұрын
Nintendo would somehow find a way to sue for even using that number 😂
@VGJunky
@VGJunky 2 ай бұрын
Nintendo Legal Department's ears just perked up
@Floodsye
@Floodsye 2 ай бұрын
Knowing Nintendo, they've somehow managed to patent the "64" and sent a threat to the devs.
@BurritoKingdom
@BurritoKingdom 2 ай бұрын
Trademarks last 75 years. Analogue did not want to deal with Nintendo's lawyers. Patents only last 25 years, so an N64 clone could have been released back in 2021 if it didn't mention Nintendo or 64 anywhere on it.
@JB.zero.zero.1
@JB.zero.zero.1 2 ай бұрын
The shader king arises.
@CinematicVisar
@CinematicVisar 2 ай бұрын
Mystic mentioned on his channel that - according to sources - these remasters are used by studios to onboard and train new talent, before they are moved to the new/primary projects, while also creating some additional cash flow in the process. It’s essentially a paid-for onboarding.
@shayanali8771
@shayanali8771 2 ай бұрын
When your competition is so lacking behind in good exclusives, it makes sense to remaster your old games instead of making new ips for the PS5 pro. People no matter what will stick with the Sony Platform.
@ErendieI
@ErendieI 2 ай бұрын
John: *breaths* Rich: " Ok lets move on."
@VGJunky
@VGJunky 2 ай бұрын
His lung capacity provides perfect segue opportunities
@jwhi419
@jwhi419 2 ай бұрын
6 hour podcast wen?
@theevilmuppet
@theevilmuppet 2 ай бұрын
Regarding the lack of additional reduction in power usage for the 6nm Xbox Series X SOC, the answer is pretty simple - the Xbox Series X has a wider memory bus, and the power requirements for driving memory don't shrink with process node improvements.
@justacollegestudent5147
@justacollegestudent5147 2 ай бұрын
That’s super informative! Thanks for giving that insight.
@kusumayogi7956
@kusumayogi7956 2 ай бұрын
True xsx has 512bit memory buswidth total Compare with 256 bit inside ps5/pro
@JavierArochoVega
@JavierArochoVega 2 ай бұрын
@@kusumayogi7956seriously??? It’s sad that Xbox doesn’t have great exclusives, cause Series X is an amazing hardware!!!
@chrisc_1012
@chrisc_1012 2 ай бұрын
​@@JavierArochoVegalmao, Microsoft own Studios have released far more games than PlayStation Studios have done this generation And there's slightly nothing, nothing at, which couldn't be done on the PS5 at least as well as it has been done on Xbox. If not fractionally better
@JavierArochoVega
@JavierArochoVega 2 ай бұрын
@@chrisc_1012 I don’t know man!!! I just don’t see they worth the buy!!!
@GaryWhitta
@GaryWhitta 2 ай бұрын
Richard please tell me that your little Q&A cartoon guy is ZZAP! 64 inspired. Also hi! Haven’t spoken to you since the Emap days I don’t think. I love DF :)
@speedracer2please
@speedracer2please 2 ай бұрын
Gary Whitta! I've been a fan of yours since my physical subscription to PC Gamer!
@busterspark4410
@busterspark4410 2 ай бұрын
If Xbox really wants to give anything a proper refresh, the dashboard would be an excellent place to start.
@weplayvrgames
@weplayvrgames 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately they sell ad space in they UI so any contracts they have currently or pending would have to be met before any UI changes could be made Which is one of the reasons I will not buy an Xbox , spend that much money on a system just to have ads shoved in your face......Nintendo and sony don't do that just literally show you your most recent games......shows the priorities of the companies
@mmmidnight1812
@mmmidnight1812 2 ай бұрын
I beg to disagree. Obviously you haven't been on an xbox dashboard in a long time. Ads are not obnoxiously in your face.
@Spendingryan
@Spendingryan 2 ай бұрын
Maybe they can actually make the dashboard render in 4K, and not 1080p, as it is now, even on a 4K display.
@shayanali8771
@shayanali8771 2 ай бұрын
​@@mmmidnight1812they are in your face. Have you ever scrolled down?
@mr88nyc
@mr88nyc 2 ай бұрын
Regarding the question about why Sony is remastering important PS4 games on PS5, I assume a large part of that is to bring the games up to current visual standards before bringing them to PC. Most of these remastered PS4>PS5 games have been released on PC shortly after or at the same time, right?
@alexatkin
@alexatkin 2 ай бұрын
In some cases sure, but Horizon Zero Dawn was already ported to PC yet they are choosing to re-release it again remastered. Would have made more sense to remaster it BEFORE releasing the PC version, I guess they just weren't sure if it was worth the cost?
@mr88nyc
@mr88nyc 2 ай бұрын
@@alexatkin yeah I see your point with Horizon remaster. It might be related to the tv show they were planning to release but really who knows. I do still think the majority of these PS4 remasters were primarily for a PC release. It makes sense that they would bring out a PS5 version as well so the console players don’t feel like they’re missing out (plus, Sony gets some more revenue).
@fvjtfjnx6535
@fvjtfjnx6535 2 ай бұрын
Sweet baby hadn't finished rewriting more of Aloys girlfriend crush levels to include in the dlc.
@xtr.7662
@xtr.7662 2 ай бұрын
​@@alexatkinyea its just that its too successful but zero dawn is massively below forbidden west in terms of visuals
@tylerhill40
@tylerhill40 2 ай бұрын
@@mr88nyc Its called "Double Dipping" on consumers.
@oreillymj
@oreillymj 2 ай бұрын
The cost of transistors is no longer falling with node shrinks because EUV litho machines are incredibly expensive and consume huge amounts of power. So the most expensive parts of each console is not getting cheaper.
@cube2fox
@cube2fox 2 ай бұрын
I think price per transistor is still falling (albeit more slowly) because otherwise it would not be possible to make significantly better new CPUs and GPUs for the same price. The only thing they could do would be to improve the hardware architecture (which has been already pretty optimized over the decades) and increase the clock frequency a bit with shrinking nodes. But I don't think that would get them very far.
@quesocoatl21
@quesocoatl21 2 ай бұрын
EUVs? Do you mean that electric vehicles are screwing with console and pc prices?
@MrHamof
@MrHamof 2 ай бұрын
@@quesocoatl21 Extreme Ultra Violet, it refers to the frequency of the lasers the machines use to etch the CPUs.
@CaptToilet
@CaptToilet 2 ай бұрын
Nightdive really is the savior of bringing classic games back in a new light. Hopefully The Thing Remastered gets dropped soon. Was hoping to play through that during scary month.
@FrawgfithAmblose
@FrawgfithAmblose 2 ай бұрын
Nightdrive sounds better
@RickR69
@RickR69 2 ай бұрын
Play the System Shock remake if you haven't already.
@twocityfoodies8476
@twocityfoodies8476 2 ай бұрын
All the folks hyped about the Analogue 3D will be in for a rude awakening when they visit their local retro shop and see the price for their favorite cartridges. 😥😥
@hybridvigga
@hybridvigga 2 ай бұрын
Especially as previous analog consoles don't play nice with those SD card cartridges.
@SoulbentAnime
@SoulbentAnime 2 ай бұрын
​@hybridvigga if they don't play nice with SD cartridges then what is the point?
@hybridvigga
@hybridvigga 2 ай бұрын
@@SoulbentAnime to use your old original cartridges instead of using an emulator. None of the other analog consoles work with them. They just rip the contents of the cartridge to the system, and then you still have to put the cartridge in as a security check, like installing a PS5 game from disc needs you to put the disc back in to play it. Those SD cartridges work by having a menu, and then transferring a game from the SD card into flash memory that then works like a regular cartridge. All analog consoles could try and rip and use is the menu, there's never gonna be a work around for it any more than you can mod your car engine to make it fly, it's just not how they work.
@SoulbentAnime
@SoulbentAnime 2 ай бұрын
@@hybridvigga thank you for the explanation
@xbradx75
@xbradx75 2 ай бұрын
Oliver's point on the AMD 5800X3D reminded me that I stuck with the i7-2600k for years and didn't upgrade until the 10700k released.
@ArchieBunker11
@ArchieBunker11 2 ай бұрын
I find it interesting that the 12700k was a 5800x3d launch competitor, that with ddr5 generally beats the 5800x3d, and yet nobody ever talks about it.
@EmpTeee816
@EmpTeee816 2 ай бұрын
​@ArchieBunker11 because at that point DDR5 prices were mega high. For lower price overall 5800X3D was the best gaming cpu
@ArchieBunker11
@ArchieBunker11 2 ай бұрын
@@EmpTeee816 yeah, but that doesnt change anything now. Also the 5800x3d cost more at launch, and is far worse at productivity. The 12700k is easily the better option today, and its way cheaper today. Edit: in my market at least.
@EmpTeee816
@EmpTeee816 2 ай бұрын
@@ArchieBunker11 yh maybe for your market. For me it's amazing. Plus the efficiency is on another level compared to i7 and i9. Of course productivity it slacks but no one will buy the 5800X3D for productivity
@ArchieBunker11
@ArchieBunker11 2 ай бұрын
@@EmpTeee816 i’d grant you that, but regardless it’s certainly as impressive and has had longer legs than the 5800x3d.
@peteparker22
@peteparker22 2 ай бұрын
That Mouse PI game looks so good
@mr88nyc
@mr88nyc 2 ай бұрын
At 1:08:57, the labeling here for remastered vs original footage appears to be incorrect.
@tyrus1235
@tyrus1235 2 ай бұрын
it was wrong in the original video as well. Not a big deal tbh.
@mr88nyc
@mr88nyc 2 ай бұрын
@@tyrus1235 agreed
@-PVL93-
@-PVL93- 2 ай бұрын
I couldn't tell which one is which tbh, so props to the developers I suppose?
@colevanhoogenstyn9322
@colevanhoogenstyn9322 2 ай бұрын
QUOTE UNQUOTE DROPPED!!!!!!!!!!!!
@jorge69696
@jorge69696 2 ай бұрын
Richard couldn't be less excited about a halo battle royale lol.
@Spendingryan
@Spendingryan 2 ай бұрын
I mean the campaign map he was referring to, silent cartographer was actually already used officially as a multiplayer big team battle map, death island, and had more playable space, for CTF and other modes.
@kn0bhe4d
@kn0bhe4d 2 ай бұрын
RGG Studios have actually mentioned how it's weird that Western devs don't reuse assets for their games, which is one of the points that allows them to release their games much quicker than other devs. It also keeps development costs down.
@smoothmercenary6735
@smoothmercenary6735 2 ай бұрын
It also makes their games feel like the same game over and over again. They might have their niche audience who don’t mind, but a lot of people want things to be better and improved over a previous game.
@xalener
@xalener 2 ай бұрын
@@smoothmercenary6735 Yak 8 feels just like 6? News to me
@UT_Alx
@UT_Alx 2 ай бұрын
@@smoothmercenary6735 I'm sorry but that is just a flat out lie.
@davidrenton
@davidrenton 2 ай бұрын
@@UT_Alx you know he was referring to the play area is either the same or shares many of the same assets, between yakuza games
@UT_Alx
@UT_Alx 2 ай бұрын
@@davidrenton and?
@rsolsjo
@rsolsjo 2 ай бұрын
"How big is the package versus the actual logic", that's what she said
@Shaki123
@Shaki123 2 ай бұрын
She didn't.
@sniperganso
@sniperganso 2 ай бұрын
A topic about the Tomb Raider 4-6 remasters but so far DF HAS NOT mentioned the announcement of the Soul Reaver 1-2 remasters. VERY DISAPPOINTING.
@Roach22
@Roach22 2 ай бұрын
I was wondering that as well. I thought I must've missed the segment because I couldn't remember it at all.
@sjake333
@sjake333 2 ай бұрын
I think it’s cause John was in Japan at the time and it’s mainly him who would talk about it
@Roach22
@Roach22 2 ай бұрын
@@sjake333 Makes sense.
@steveco1800
@steveco1800 2 ай бұрын
I’m sure they will at release. Looking forward to it
@roytore5062
@roytore5062 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, I didn’t know that
@brucemclee
@brucemclee 2 ай бұрын
The other thing to consider with the HZD remaster is there was a show in development but that is now in limbo. Sony likely wanted the remaster to accompany the show's release.
@NumairRana
@NumairRana 2 ай бұрын
Man i can listen to John talk all day, love how he explains things and when he talks passionately about topics or obscure things! Great episode as always.
@deepblue8143
@deepblue8143 2 ай бұрын
Same, love listening to him.
@THU31
@THU31 2 ай бұрын
John finally let down by physical distribution, still waiting for his copy of Silent Hill 2. But I'm sure he'd manage to find a way to say it's worth the wait just to be able to touch that beautiful shiny disc. 😉
@arturiaarthus8367
@arturiaarthus8367 2 ай бұрын
thanks John for explaining where the yellow paint comes from, or for what purpose. i've been telling this for years, most players still think that the yellow paint exists for journalists who can't play.
@pronstorestiffi
@pronstorestiffi 2 ай бұрын
Just a throw away comment, because you mentioned yellow paint, but Still Wakes the Deep probably has the best use of that aspect in any game that i have seen.
@R17759
@R17759 2 ай бұрын
All of the big brain capital G Gamers that complain about it would be lost without it
@arturiaarthus8367
@arturiaarthus8367 2 ай бұрын
@@pronstorestiffi yes i've seen it. you want to know where you CAN and CAN NOT go if something is chasing you. it only makes sense really.
@VGJunky
@VGJunky 2 ай бұрын
that was just a tongue in cheek joke for a while, not surprising that people somehow manage to take things like that seriously
@arturiaarthus8367
@arturiaarthus8367 2 ай бұрын
@@VGJunky then you have missed the many people who have legitimately began to criticize games for having it, and for ''appeasing'' to journalists. it's the main reason as to why John mentioned it in the first place. why would he, if it was just some joke?
@or1on89
@or1on89 2 ай бұрын
I don't understand the "finally" for 6nm processor when 7nm was performing well and performance do not improve...it would've been a "finally" if it would've brought a cheaper slim model...but in the way it currently delivers no one cares?
@anonony9081
@anonony9081 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, pretending that the die size matters to the end consumer at all is strange to me. No one really cares unless it comes with serious performance, gains or heat reduction.
@danwehmeier9717
@danwehmeier9717 2 ай бұрын
Usually making the same chip on a smaller node leads to both lower overall costs (more dies per wafer). This cost can either be passed along to consumer or pocketed as additional profit.
@ReachTea
@ReachTea 2 ай бұрын
Passed along to the consumer lol
@evil_chuck
@evil_chuck 2 ай бұрын
@@danwehmeier9717 false
@flimermithrandir
@flimermithrandir 2 ай бұрын
@@danwehmeier9717This was true until like… 14NM. After around 2017-18 it did only go up in Price because TSMC does take so much more Money than before so this cant be true anymore. It basically jumped from 10K per Wafer (7) to 17K for 5NM to now around 25K for 2NM. Back then for the PS4 we jumped from 28NM to 16NM. Thats almost half… while costing slightly more Money per Wafer… the overall Cost was reduced massively because of that. But again… this is not true anymore. We would have to go to 4NM and even then its nit really true since those NM Numbers are Bullshit to Begin with either Way these Day. Intel 5NM is not the same as TSMC 5NM.
@tricky2917
@tricky2917 2 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed Ollie's answer on AI post processing / injection.
@LunaKatana
@LunaKatana 2 ай бұрын
Do we have 100% confirmation that the Slim PS5 covers/plates will fit the Pro. There is much debate online, I've bought the black plates on a whim, hopefully they fit.
@scenenuf
@scenenuf 2 ай бұрын
A Halo BR mode where the players are split between the Covenant and Spartans/Marines trying to get off-world as the Covenant glass the planet/Zone, would be a brilliant take on BR, could also have a Flood swarm mode... such a huge missed opportunity if done with love.
@HermannTheGreat
@HermannTheGreat 2 ай бұрын
Yep, they really blew it on that one. Maybe the one franchise that could have been competitive with FN with a battle royale mode.
@sEaNoYeAh
@sEaNoYeAh 2 ай бұрын
I actually really enjoyed Halo 4 (particularly the campaign), loved Halo 5 (multiplayer), and Infinite has its strengths, but it just feels like they can't get any content made. Like it's good when it comes but it's so small in quantity. I just don't think they could make the BR mode or anything of that sort fast enough to ever conceivably be finished. Hopefully the move to unreal if nothing else let's them expand and create so much faster.
@comeontars
@comeontars 2 ай бұрын
I daydream of a halo br all the time. Add in groups of NPCs or even specials where you can spawn in covenant drop ships it would really add something special to the genre and make HALO big again
@sambagogo777
@sambagogo777 2 ай бұрын
Analogue 3D price in the UK: $250 (£193 at current exchange rate) for console $50 (£39 at current exchange rate) shipping £46 Import VAT £8 UK Customs handling fee Plus any potential banking fees for currency conversion Total price: £247
@tHeWasTeDYouTh
@tHeWasTeDYouTh 2 ай бұрын
1:04:47 please DF make a video comparing Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness PS2 and PC version. I never knew the PC version actually took advantage of pixel shaders. I always thought it was a cheap PC port of a PS2 game
@360Fov
@360Fov 2 ай бұрын
Killing Time reminds me of the fantastic and underrated REALMS OF THE HAUNTING.... whopping 4 discs, 2 hours of FMV, crazy horror/fps/adventure/puzzle games. I remember picking it up from Staples for £12.... back when browsing all the boxes for PC games was a definite past time while shopping with parents lol
@mayen67
@mayen67 2 ай бұрын
They said Bloober team has been scaling up and getting better, shown by the Silent Hill 2 remake. Some credit is due.. but remaking a game is quite different to making an original game, with SH2, they had the blueprint, while it would have its own challenges, I still think the medium is a better game to judge bloober on.
@randomfriendlygamerRFG
@randomfriendlygamerRFG 2 ай бұрын
I would agree with you if the SH2 was an almost 1 to 1 remake but it is a lot more than that. Besides the updated combat and graphics; the puzzles, areas, the flow of the game, the town structure and even how to access certain areas were also overhauled. The game does have issues in how some of those things are handled but it's far above the level of remake than Super Mario RPG or The Last of Us Part 1.
@Unexpectedstuff
@Unexpectedstuff 2 ай бұрын
John, normal people are usually not pointing out favorites because it’s not very polite thing to do, but angry internet commenters are prone to point out people they dislike. So those are just vocal minority angry people. It has nothing to do with you, probably. So, I mean, like, I mostly watch df for consoles and retro, and your opinion on things are very interesting. Df won’t df without you.
@RealJeffTidwell
@RealJeffTidwell 2 ай бұрын
One thing you find with age, opinions are basically random. Everyone has a reason to like or dislike, give time to or not give time to, blah blah there’s so much variance in factors that every culture will have a counter-culture. And every fractal superposition in-between. I say, let people celebrate what they love. I want to hear positivity, because it’s so easy to be cynical.
@s871-c1q
@s871-c1q 2 ай бұрын
@@RealJeffTidwell I feel like on the internet cynicism has just gotten into everything that it's just boring. It's an eye-roll generator.
@RealJeffTidwell
@RealJeffTidwell 2 ай бұрын
@@s871-c1q Aye. I think it’s wonderful to be critical, because that’s how progress happens, but a constant stream of cynicism indicates an immaturity to me. Everything can be better, but it’s much easier said than done.
@TheGodilas
@TheGodilas 2 ай бұрын
They aren't doing it out of pure greed? I guess that's why they sell the ps5 stand and the disk drive separately... lmao
@Radek494
@Radek494 2 ай бұрын
You do realize that stand is not even needed to put the console vertically? It's just a money trap. Also their argument about base PS5 was that they didn't become cheaper to manufacture over time, unlike previous generations. Base PS5 with disc driver bundled is still a better deal, and once again the stand is not needed
@TheGodilas
@TheGodilas 2 ай бұрын
@@Radek494 Yo do realize that money trap and greed go together, right? LMAO What if you want to put it horizontally? Maybe you don't care, many others do. It's a money-grubbing scheme and saying that the base ps5 is a better deal is clownish. Ps4 is an even better deal. lol When ps6 arrives remember to also mention again how better deal will be the ps5 then. lmfao
@gothpunkboy89
@gothpunkboy89 2 ай бұрын
​@@TheGodilas You don't need a stand to put it horizontally. And adding a disk would onlu raise the price more.
@jwhi419
@jwhi419 2 ай бұрын
​@@gothpunkboy89not having one is fine. The problem is a bundle with one doesn't exist. Meaning if it was up to sony. They wouldn't have discs at all. That's greed
@gothpunkboy89
@gothpunkboy89 2 ай бұрын
@@jwhi419 They have disks drives you can buy and attach. Part of their single SKU system rather then needing to make 2 different ones.
@caldale4941
@caldale4941 2 ай бұрын
I gotta say, Playstation won this generation by a mile BUT, the design of the Xbox console is far more modern, discreet and attractive than the Playstation. The PS5 looks like a fancy toy while the Xbox looks super clean and minimalist.
@G360LIVE
@G360LIVE 2 ай бұрын
You spelled Nintendo wrong. The Switch won this generation by a mile. And yes, the Switch (launched in 2017) is in the PS5/Xbox Series (launched in 2020) generation, the same as the Dreamcast (launched in 1998) is in the same generation as the Xbox (launched in 2001). And the Switch 2 will be next gen. It'll launch in 2025. The next gen Xbox console will launch in 2026, and the PS6 will launch in 2027 or 2028, depending on how fast Microsoft's hardware sales tank.
@amnril
@amnril 2 ай бұрын
@@G360LIVEtbh, I’ve never considered the Switch to be part of this gen as it’s so far behind technically but I see your point.
@mastersmurfify
@mastersmurfify 2 ай бұрын
MS has been ahead for quite some time in this area but the masses love PS, Sony kills it on ease of use for devs and thus that is where all the time and effort goes.
@RichiPuppi
@RichiPuppi 2 ай бұрын
The series x wouldn’t fit on my built in entertainment stand, so not for me, not quite good enough to replace my receiver.
@PeterSmith-y7q
@PeterSmith-y7q 2 ай бұрын
@@G360LIVEswitch didnt win anything, revenue and market share is way smaller
@Listai87
@Listai87 2 ай бұрын
Just joining the chorus here to say that John is the best. Love his work for DF especially in the retro space.
@nikhilgotmail
@nikhilgotmail 2 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved how prepared Oliver was with the AI question. And what a great and comprehensive answer too!
@Yuzuincrash
@Yuzuincrash 2 ай бұрын
I love hearing all of your thoughts on Halo Battle Royale, especially John’s excitement. I think it’s very discouraging to know that the people at 343 do not have talks like these in the office. It’s clear from the last 3 games that they have NO IDEA what makes Halo, Halo. I really hope the game falls into the right hands one day and that Microsoft gets the ish together to save that series. It was one of the best ever made.
@TobiasWiggle
@TobiasWiggle 2 ай бұрын
Concrete pounding melee weapon "rocket jump" is like the Shieldgun Jump in UT2003 which they made an explicit feature in the xbox version Unreal Championship (not the superior UC2), where you didn't even have to look down to do it. A multiplayer that plays with darkness reminds me of the asymmetrical Mercenary multiplayer mode from Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow. Didn't really take off but it was cool and unique!
@JacobVanasse
@JacobVanasse 2 ай бұрын
John you’re the only reason I watch DF, please never leave. We love you man!
@SPG8989
@SPG8989 2 ай бұрын
Alex and Oliver are making it almost unbearable to watch. I wish John would grow some balls and take a shot at creating his own version of DF
@s871-c1q
@s871-c1q 2 ай бұрын
@@SPG8989 I don't get this insane impulse to divide up DF that so many commenters have.
@IsaacSperrow
@IsaacSperrow 2 ай бұрын
​@@s871-c1qAnd if you ask them the reason, its always over the most minor or petty thing ever.
@BrophyMichael
@BrophyMichael 2 ай бұрын
Hi guys - do you think you might be able to do a quick analysis: Intel Arc 140V vs Radeon 890M Kitguru did one and it was woefully inadequate.
@otacon5648
@otacon5648 2 ай бұрын
John is the most passionate retro aficionado I’ve ever seen. Keep on keeping on John.
@Dragonfury3000
@Dragonfury3000 2 ай бұрын
Analogue needs to make a ps2 HD
@Acquire
@Acquire 2 ай бұрын
Sony's remasters are really not difficult to understand. Remastering an established game gives small teams of devs experience with low risk and expands the games audience like Oliver said. Additionally, it's all relative, we were all there when Horizon released, but new gamers were not. An older teen or young adult getting into games now is seeing sequels where the first game released when they were kids. That feels ancient to them. These remasters make them modern.
@iownu92
@iownu92 2 ай бұрын
When John starts talking in-depth about Angel of Darkness, the other 2 guys are like “😶😶” with the occasional “huh…” and “okay…”
@MegaDeth859
@MegaDeth859 2 ай бұрын
It was so obvious. I wonder why they don't just TRY to make this podcast not awkward sometimes
@DEVILTAZ35
@DEVILTAZ35 2 ай бұрын
No mention of the all new immersive controller that was supposed to be included with Brooklin as well. This didn’t come to pass either. I assume it meant haptic feedback finally on Xbox. As far as designs, I just stuck with my Halo Edition Series X as it is still far better looking than any of the other designs.
@TheAlgonquin-z6f
@TheAlgonquin-z6f 2 ай бұрын
1:54:45 That's a good point. Its like a mod, basically.
@e.v.g.e.n.y
@e.v.g.e.n.y 2 ай бұрын
I am biased since Tomb Raider 4 was my first entry into Tomb Raider but i absolutely loved it. I believe it was the last TR on that engine and it was a culmination of all the best things. Cutscenes were gorgeous too!
@Coldmud
@Coldmud 2 ай бұрын
0:39 Rich is not impressed 😂
@dakbassett
@dakbassett 2 ай бұрын
I want to thank you all for the work you do. The whole team behind Digital Foundry ❤
@devriak4263
@devriak4263 2 ай бұрын
52:12 "fartnite" indeed
@Szydelski
@Szydelski 2 ай бұрын
Regarding Nvidia, there had to be crisis in the AI. So far Nvidia definately do not want to be involved in powerful cheap consoles. Switch is another story, since it is not competing with either RTXs for marketshare or AIs for foundry availability.
@Konic_and_Snuckles
@Konic_and_Snuckles 2 ай бұрын
1:10:37 "Lara Croft + Kurtis Trent Tomb Raider" - So, basically, Tomb Raider & Knuckles
@AlistairNY
@AlistairNY 2 ай бұрын
I think the newer Tomb Raiders invented yellow paint, although it was more like white chalk.
@hybridvigga
@hybridvigga 2 ай бұрын
Uncharted did it first, not sure if the first one ever to do it but before the Tomb Raider reboots.
@Trai1b1aze
@Trai1b1aze 2 ай бұрын
Don't think ps3 UC1 originally had it, but UC2 might have.
@hybridvigga
@hybridvigga 2 ай бұрын
@@Trai1b1aze Maybe not actual paint in the first one, it's been a while since I played the original version, but like yellow ladders and yellow flooring that showed the way towards the next objective at the very least. Also not 100% sure Uncharted was the first game to ever use it, I just know it did before Tomb Raider.
@chriswaters834
@chriswaters834 2 ай бұрын
Not sure what the point of 4k output is if they aren't upscaling the internal resolution...
@Spendingryan
@Spendingryan 2 ай бұрын
53:17 "The Silent Cartographer" was actually used in halo 1 pc multiplayer, it was renamed "Death Island" and has more playable space and you can access the top of the island as there were banshees and such, could be interesting for a different mode though.
@SIXminWHISTLE
@SIXminWHISTLE 2 ай бұрын
It would be insane for Nightdive to remaster some weird Marathon-engine game that no one has heard of before the actual Marathon trilogy. I know Aleph One exists and recently came to Steam, but it seems like a no-brainer.
@tyrus1235
@tyrus1235 2 ай бұрын
Although there's a fan project that's on Steam (and free, to boot!), I do think Nightdive would be remiss in not bringing the trilogy to all modern consoles and PC with their usual high quality and accessibility options!
@jamesoloughlin
@jamesoloughlin 2 ай бұрын
1:52:16 I think AI mods can happen today to PC games in real-time. Style Transfer can be implemented today in Unreal Engine, it has to be a done by the developer and deliberate process. See also Google Stadia demoing a variation of style transfer when that service was introduced. I don’t see why a style transfer mod can be done without the developer’s involvement though.
@HatedJared
@HatedJared 2 ай бұрын
I am most excited about the Analogue 3D because I have old saves, including my childhood Ocarina of Time save sitting on a cartridge thats going to expire any day now. Really hoping I can use it to rip my save.
@rivzart1041
@rivzart1041 2 ай бұрын
I think the 6nm process it's just about long term contracts, we can't change massive production contracts day to day and maybe Microsoft pushed a lot of Socs but wasn't able to sell enough consoles.
@rowanunderwood
@rowanunderwood 2 ай бұрын
Imagine a similar FMV concept for modern times where it is a VR title that incorporates 3D immersive FMV into traditional gameplay (yes I know there would need to a a "stand still" conceit as you can't move around in a 3D video, but would still be amazing.)
@CRTOGRPHR
@CRTOGRPHR 2 ай бұрын
Loved the Chromatic shoutout! There are so many great GB games coming out right now. Zephyr’s Pass is just one of them (not biased or anything 😅) hope to see more coverage in the future!
@hooky17
@hooky17 2 ай бұрын
On the Analogue. The only thing that disappoints me a little is they could have included one of those 8bitdo controllers with it. Or at least do some kind of deal if you wanted to bundle one. I get why though. If you have a cartridge to play in it you likely have a controller to use. But still. Would be interested to know if the Switch Wireless N64 Bluetooth controller would work. Hope so
@nickgovier
@nickgovier 2 ай бұрын
There is already a turbo version of the N64 core on MiSTer that can unlock faster framerates in games. The problems are a) a lot of the game logic is tied to 20 FPS, so gameplay can break when you run faster, b) it often requires ROM hacks to unlock and it’s not clear how the Analogue 3D can support this when loading original carts, and c) some games explicitly “sped up” game logic in areas where they knew the framerate was going to tank, so if you run it on “better” hardware that doesn’t drop frames, they will run too fast. It remains to be seen how the Analogue 3D deals with these issues, but you should temper expectations that this will simply make games smoother without unintended consequences.
@RolanTHUNDER
@RolanTHUNDER 2 ай бұрын
Great comments about the 5700/5800X3D. I've got the 5700X3D which was my upgrade from a 3600x. Needless to say the difference was night and day! What a monster CPU! It cost me around $60 less than the 5800X3D yet, as Rich and Olie said is essentially the same chip. The only difference being the clock speed. I can vouch for it's performance.
@tomkirbygreen
@tomkirbygreen 2 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this episode chaps. Is there any chance we can get all of you together for an episode before the end of the year? The episode equivalent of your lovely DF Fights back in print?
@zzavatski
@zzavatski 2 ай бұрын
9GB graphics cards, finally!
@korel8967
@korel8967 2 ай бұрын
1:15:55 Humble as usual. The reason I enjoy watching you guys regularly!
@420inportland
@420inportland 2 ай бұрын
I got a brand new 5800X3D for $270 at Best Buy thanks to them price matching, what I assume was clearance pricing, for the chip at Micro Center about 6mo ago. Paired with the 3080 I finally managed to get about a yr and a half ago, I feel like I am still in good shape for some 4K high refresh gaming for another 3-5yrs to come. While there is more powerful hardware out there to be sure, I don't feel like even the most AAA games leverage that hardware well enough to make me feel like I'm not getting the close to the best experience available. (I even get framegen now thanks to AMD if I want it.) Considering I only spent $750 on my PC 5yrs ago, and another $770 to upgrade my AM4 platform I feel like I've enjoyed some pretty kick ass gaming on a budget for many years, and expect to for many more, all without having to have spent a fortune. Hell, just being able to play online games without the $10mo surcharge they gouge you for on consoles paid for my upgrade.
@Tuatara7
@Tuatara7 2 ай бұрын
I wish 343, err… Halo Studios, is able to re-capture the quirky gameplay elements that John described from the Halo CE in their next title. There should be a balance between “modernizing” an FPS shooter and still keeping the unique elements of the older Halo titles.
@xShikari
@xShikari 2 ай бұрын
That galactic Xbox looks cool, but I already have a PC. 🤷
@DauntlessDamian
@DauntlessDamian 2 ай бұрын
13:57 I don't believe the Slim plates are compatible with the Pro. I haven't seen any documentation from Sony stating compatibility with anything other than the currently available disk drive. Sony even notes on the product pages, that the plates are compatible with the Slim version specifically.
@jesser4221
@jesser4221 2 ай бұрын
They are compatible. The point of the 3 lines in the Pro is to match the size of the slim plates.
@luism8130
@luism8130 2 ай бұрын
Does TSMC even make 7nm anymore? I’m pretty sure they were forced to switch, so this has nothing to do with Microsoft.
@alfheim7579
@alfheim7579 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, they usually keep a specific node running for over a decade. TSMC still has multiple fabs producing 20nm and 28nm node wafers.
@dozilla77
@dozilla77 2 ай бұрын
Nightdive is such fantastic work bringing these classics back to life. System shock was so incredible. System shock 2 can’t come soon enough
@necroboxic8526
@necroboxic8526 2 ай бұрын
1hr long trailer for squadron 42 came out. I'd love to see you guys cover that.
@SabeTimoth
@SabeTimoth 2 ай бұрын
The thumbnail looks like the three stages of fester adams
@ThinusSwart-t4n
@ThinusSwart-t4n 2 ай бұрын
The Xbox 2TB is a special limited edition. Not sure why all the hate for the paint job?
@yomamasohot6411
@yomamasohot6411 2 ай бұрын
It just makes PS5 Pro look cheap for what it offers.
@FSAPOJake
@FSAPOJake 2 ай бұрын
1:38:40 that username absolutely sent me 😂
@NdiforKhan
@NdiforKhan 2 ай бұрын
Have a good day John, Oliver and gramps
@forasago
@forasago 2 ай бұрын
Exclamation point
@NINisTR1
@NINisTR1 2 ай бұрын
Wichard
@NathanH90
@NathanH90 2 ай бұрын
Welcome, in a sense.
@SITSIndustries
@SITSIndustries 2 ай бұрын
1:55:41 Oliver plays the in-the-here-and-now drinking game.
@purebaldness
@purebaldness 2 ай бұрын
A bespoke game that is quite compelling, I would say. I'll be curious to see how the rest of the game unfolds...
@nathanaelhowe6914
@nathanaelhowe6914 2 ай бұрын
The greatest advice from Richard Leadbetter: Go and play Quake.
@raulgalets
@raulgalets 2 ай бұрын
21:48 it is not a loop... it is a spiral
@gonschor7dleven
@gonschor7dleven 2 ай бұрын
Worth noting the NA release of Angel of Darkness was a lot buggier than the PAL release. There’s a bunch of good videos on the differences.
@daniebello
@daniebello 2 ай бұрын
if PS6 could have a VRR window of 30-120 that would be amazing, idk if it’s possible on the PS5 Pro
@TheGameLecturer
@TheGameLecturer 2 ай бұрын
OMG John's home cinema setup looks sweet !
@etbadaboum
@etbadaboum 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if they got the idea for Mouse when Disney's original Mickey Mouse animated cartoon came into public domain and so weren't afraid of using a tangential universe in their game
@lasaldude
@lasaldude 2 ай бұрын
Image the Blind Fire game in HDR on an OLED with Full path tracing. IT WOULD BE INSANE LOOKING!!! We need full path tracing.
@concinnus
@concinnus 2 ай бұрын
Alas, so few people play in truly dark rooms that I fear that the concept isn't a good idea commercially.
@OoviokuoO
@OoviokuoO 2 ай бұрын
Do we know for sure that Microsoft haven't already swapped the SOC at an earlier stage? How often have tech reviewers actually done a teardown of the Series X in the last couple years?
@AbrahamZX1
@AbrahamZX1 2 ай бұрын
Looking forward to Chronos: The New Dawn, I'm a huge fan of survival and psychological horror games and of Dead Space in particular. Loved the SH2 game, so here's to hoping Bloober can deliver.
@gamepreserver
@gamepreserver 2 ай бұрын
"I'm still flanked by CRTs" Now that's good positioning.
@williehew
@williehew 2 ай бұрын
Will N64 carts themselves hinder these potential performance increases on the Analogue 64? I can’t imagine near-30 year old tech being improved much on modern hardware, data-speed-transfer wise. Looking forward to footage and reviews.
@bowi1332
@bowi1332 2 ай бұрын
They can probably store the whole content of the cartridge in memory.
@lionight85
@lionight85 2 ай бұрын
1:25:40 I think the appeal could be similar to the Criterion Collection where when you buy from nightdive you get a certified unqiue cult classic in its best possible form(s)
@ElioCossu
@ElioCossu 2 ай бұрын
My god, i totally forgot ZPC! It was so weird!
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