DF Direct Weekly #81: Do We Need A Horizon 1 Remake? Path-Traced Quake! Dead Space Remake!

[@rebeccaslurpermann8444]

DF 100 should be a remake of DF 1

[@R17759]

Now with ray tracing

[@pietrmuffei8874]

add some RGBs

[@Aiumy91]

We need it!

[@Solidariity]

From the ground up

[@MR-pt7ou]

they are going to need to add going prone or the internet is going to be mad

[@steve228uk]

They eyebrow raise from Rich at 00:11:50 after the “here and now”… he knows we love it 😂

[@fullauto86]

Lol i didnt notice until i read this comment, is that an old df meme like bespoke?

[@BigCheeseEvie]

@@fullauto86 what's that lol? I heard them mention it

[@fullauto86]

@@BigCheeseEvie rich is always talking about "bespoke modes" and "bespoke settings" son on. I feel like he used to do it more but has let off a little but i cant fully tell. Anyhow someone made him that bespoke shirt you see him wear once in awhile, at least this is my current understanding of things. Lol i love these guys.

[@alexadelaide]

Thank you guys for pushing out another weekly show on an already crammed schedule

[@SITSIndustries]

11:56 "Rich says in-the-here-and-now" drinking game. Rich's subtle nod suggests he will have a drink.

[@VincentVanBro]

We’ve passed peak Richard being surprised by the episode number. We’re now on a new arc.

[@Sonic_Kirbo]

I would love if Burnout 3 Takedown could get some kind of basic remaster at the very least. It’s one of the few original Xbox games that didn’t get enhanced backwards compatibility so it’s stuck forever at 480i resolution, unless you emulate it. It’s one of my all time favorite games and it could sell really well. There’s probably licensing problems with the soundtrack and the source code could be lost… maybe one day. Heck they could do a combo remaster of both Takedown and Revenge, now that would be amazing!

[@Pchelekk]

It would clearly loose some of the songs. Look at the remaster of Paradise, 2 songs got removed from the base game. EA remastered paradise so it means that they still have an eye on the series, maybe in the future it will happen or not. It’s a old game Burnout 3 so for them it doesn’t make sense to remaster it because they think that it won’t attract enough fans I guess.

[@orijimi]

@@Pchelekk Burnout 3 and Revenge's soundtracks are in an especially good place to be re-licensed because pretty much all of those bands are gonna be pretty happy about an opportunity to make a quick buck in this day and age.

[@gamergod9182]

In regards to NFS, I really hope they *do not* change the formula. starting with a slow car and improving it, making it your own, unlocking better upgrades, better cars, working your way through the ranks... there aren't many games left that do that competently. Slow car fast > Fast car fast.

[@HCIbn]

Go play Need For Speed: HEAT you casual gamer lol.

[@edinalewis4704]

I honestly love the idea of a Horizon Zero Dawn remaster. Does the original still look good? Yes. Does it still look good after a few hours of playing Forbidden West? No. My hope is they are porting Zero Dawn in to the engine for Forbidden West and hooking them together as one continuous play experience. As a Horizon fan girl, that would be the dream!!

[@alexschneider8494]

Sony is either out of original ideas or they’re becoming one of the most greedy gaming companies out there. They already raised prices on their consoles two years after launch, lead the charge on $70 games, and prohibited their customers from using PS4 accessories and controllers on the PS5 even though they would work.

[@shaneosullivan8546]

So agree on the controllers not working. What a joke.

[@alexschneider8494]

@@shaneosullivan8546 Yep. Wish people would stop defending Sony’s shit practices simply because they’re PlayStation fanboys

[@shaneosullivan8546]

@@alexschneider8494 I have four perfect DS4 controllers and would love to use them. The haptic and triggers on dualsense is cool but I really could live without them.

[@SC0RPI0NFURY]

Why would you want to use PS4 controllers on PS5 games?

[@shaneosullivan8546]

@@SC0RPI0NFURY lets see. They are identical apart from the triggers and since they cost 75 euro and I have four DS4 it would save me from buying a spare. Oh! I also like my DS4 controllers and would like to get more use out of them. What difference does it make that a game is on the PS5. The only one I have that isn't cross gen is Ratchet and I've never played it. Not bought HFW yet but will do after Ragnarok. I can still use my xbox controller I got with my one s years ago on my Series X and I do. There is nothing special about the Dualsense that justified limiting the use of a dualshock 4 on the Ps5. It was solely for the money.

[@ericbonnard9161]

The Astro Bot "Franchise" has huge potential. My 5 year old kid loves Astro's Playroom so much... A fresh new game would be THE killer App for PSVR2. Sony should bundle it, just like they bundled Astro's Playroom with the PS5! Exciting times!

[@arbiter5100]

John hit the nail on the head when he was talking about how repetitive the design of new NFS games are now.

[@amxboxer]

NFS' design lead sweating profusely after his job was just summarised in 15 secs

[@tog2842]

Much like Bruce Willis films.

[@guitarsimon1]

@@amxboxer Hahaha, a job to aspire to, 2 hours work every couple of years.

[@SaviorInTheSun]

I feel bad for John in this video. You can tell he's not feeling well and it just trying to get through this. Get well soon John!

[@nping2001]

oh no whats wrong with john?!

[@TheBreadB]

Does he have covid or something?

[@dmar192]

@@nping2001 He has the case of the mondays

[@mattmaas5790]

it can be hard when your favorite console starts having poor business practices. Xbox fans felt that during xbox one era. plus he's trying not to start a fight with Alex lol

[@lennylennington]

@@nping2001 he seems to have a cold. Which, for Broc, is the end of the world. Tells you a lot about the type of guy he is.

[@elliotyorkcameron793]

It's kind of disappointing that every media outlet has misreported the HZD project as "remake". It very clearly says "remaster" on the leaked document. Beyond this, a remake very clearly wouldn't make sense. I'm not surprised that IGN and other outlets intentionally fanned the flames by misrepresenting this as a "remake", but it's a bit disappointing to see DF doing that when generally they are the voices of reason amongst a lot of the angst-filled gaming news. The reality is, there is no reason to believe it's anything other than a remaster, and a 2023-24 remaster of a 2017 game isn't controversial news at all. Plenty of games have received paid remasters in shorter spans than that with zero controversy. If news outlets reported this correctly for what it is (a PS5 remaster of a PS4 game) there would be nothing controversial about this at all.

[@i3l4ckskillzz79]

Yes but the game already received a sort of remaster on ps5 and now they doing another "remaster" with slightly better textures etc. And charge us another 80 bugs

[@elliotyorkcameron793]

@@i3l4ckskillzz79 No, it didn't receive a remaster. It received a patch unlocking the framerate. Not at all the same thing. And there is absolutely zero reason to think they would charge 80 or even 70 bucks for it. They have never done that for a remaster. Spider-Man Remastered was a $20 upgrade. Death Stranding was a $10 upgrade. Ghost of Tsushima was a $10 upgrade. Uncharted Legacy of Thieves Collection was a $10 and you got two games even if you previously only owned one. The only people suggesting this will be full-priced either have no idea what they are talking about or are intentionally trying to bait people into outrage.

[@exile9024]

I would love to see AvP & AvP2 given the Night Dive studio treament along with rtx.

[@ShanGamer1981]

Need the rights to it

[@nicolasrolke3538]

Fantastic idea.

[@concinnus]

@@ShanGamer1981 Obviously. But Night Dive is indie, they'd just be contracted by the IP owner. It's not like giving a Star Wars license to EA.

[@fullauto86]

Hell 6eah man, great games.

[@Dia1Up]

Im currently playing through horizon 1 for the first.time on my Steam Deck. I have no idea what they would do. This is one of the few games I don't feel that is limited by tech at the time. It's a seriously incredible game

[@MrMattMagoo]

I played it 6 months ago and I agree wholeheartedly. With everything cranked up on PC, that game already looks pretty amazing.

[@LN.2233]

It's going to be more of a remaster.

[@Omar-Asim]

Water and facial animations are the only things I noticed that haven't aged well

[@obliviondust2719]

Sony’s addicted to pointless remakes *AHEM TLOU

[@anonony9081]

They'll change to the new chubby faced character model and change "problematic" things that aren't actually problematic

[@charoleawood]

35:47 I disagree here. One of the things I really enjoy about NFS 2015 versus Criterion's Most Wanted 2012 (both are excellent games) is that you can keep the same tuner car for most of the game. That sense of progression, going from zero to hero, is very satisfying. It's great fun to take a car that looks like it can't push past 80mph and then smoke stock Porsches and Corvettes. Most Wanted 2012 had only a handful of events for each of the cars you can drive, it felt like going through the motions rather than having a career.

[@shanelmoraes14]

Just to add something to the NFS trailer bit. I work in the CGi industry and we don’t just export final files in random frame rates. Frame rates are double confirmed with the clients when a project is taken up as it’s a part of the process of understanding what a client wants and the deliverables to be made. If the client says 24fps then all final exports are done in 24fps.

[@zeldaoot23]

I wouldn’t mind if they redid the motion capture on Horizon: Zero Dawn to match the awesome stuff in Forbidden West. The question is whether that should be done soon or as part of a definitive trilogy release 5 years down the road.

[@jaketerp500]

The fact that the Killzone games are not being remastered but they want to remaster Zero Dawn, is criminal.

[@RoganGunn]

Absolutely agree. At this point, I'd take a Killzone 2 re-release that simply ran on current hardware, but a 60 or 120 fps mode with higher resolution would be nice. That game looked so good I'd take the graphics otherwise untouched! But yeah remasters of the Killzone games would be 😙👌

[@jaketerp500]

@@RoganGunn 💯. Completely agree. Just a 4K 60FPS on 2 & 3 would be 🔥

[@vincentbrassard7252]

Even when not feeling well, John never misses some good ol motion blur ;)

[@jaffaman99]

Thanks for all you do, love listening to you guys talk

[@thorocomments]

Peep Rich’s face when Alex is basically begging to cover Quake 1 RT, lol… Regarding Mario, I don’t think we can really judge the voice yet. There were what, 10 words spoken? I need to hear more.

[@cmd_84]

Isn’t the most logical comparison for a Horizon Remaster the Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection? An 10 euro upgrade for a proper ps5 version with a few graphical improvements, Dualsense support and faster loading?

[@Garnett945]

I hope it will be more. That Uncharted 4 and LL remaster was quite a little upgrade.

[@Snatcher42]

Yes, or Ghost of Tsushima/Death Stranding Director's Cuts. The leaked doc says remaster, not remake.

[@nicolasrolke3538]

NO ONE LIVES FOREVER 1&2 💥💥💥 biggest candidates that absolutely deserve a remaster!

[@maartenstriepe6893]

The media calling it a „remake“ instead of a „remaster“ as it’s actually called in the leak is pure bait to drive the drummed up discussion, riding on the backlash that happened with tlou part 1. Like it’s kinda an entirely different discussion

[@jerrysmart5010]

I think the problem I have right now is PSVR 2 sounds great, but it feels very out of the dark atm. We only know a few games, we found out backwards compatibility isn't a thing, Sony's said nothing about potentially updating PSVR games like the rumor suggested and we're all anticipating an extremely high price. Just feels like we could do with some communication, a PSVR 2 dedicated State of Play to bring all the details out there.

[@thanksbetotap]

A Horizon remaster (to whatever extent) is just a sign that the people responsible are out of ideas. The one game that would really be exciting to get a justified remaster or remake at this point would be Bloodborne, simply to fix the broken frame persistence.

[@redhunter1535]

No it's a sign ps fanbase just eat anything. If I was sony ill rise the console price again at 599€ and games at 90€

[@BlackTone91]

Why is there so much mixing of remake and remaster? The leak says Remaster, but the title and video mention a Remake

[@LucDutra92]

John just went and gave spoilers for the whole plot of NFS. Well done, John

[@BerticusBersht]

John reciting the NFS story mode tropes had me buckled .

[@GTAVREALISM]

I would love to see a multiplayer PSVR2 vehicular combat game with 4 players manning each vehicle, one driving, the other 3 manning mounted weapons and using vehicle abilities, and allowing players to switch seats quickly, would be fun af to take out other vehicles like dune buggies with all kinds of weapons.

[@stevenkaye1625]

I think it's a little disingenuous to call it a Horizon "remake" and discuss it as if it were this, considering right there in the document you guys were looking at, it clearly says "remaster". I know there's been a lot of exhausting discussions since TLoU Part I came out about what the differences are, but like you even mentioned, what's the issue with it being a Spider-Man Remastered type situation? No-one was up in arms about that, and I for one would love to jump into Horizon ZD again with a fresh coat of paint. In regards to saying that whoever is remastering it could be working on something else -- who says? If it's an external studio doing it, then it's literally providing work/a project to people who will be paid for their work, and if its internal, I highly doubt it's actually taking much away from whatever else Guerrilla are working on. The idea that these projects "distract" devs from better things is always a strange one considering there's rarely ever evidence to support this.

[@THU31]

I would be fine with this remaster (no idea why they were talking about a remake) if they actually brought over some changes from the second game - much better enemy scanning, inventory system and stash, maybe the glider? And one technical thing I really disliked in the first game - dialog positioning, which was never in the center. That really annoyed me, especially on headphones. If they are only going to do visual changes, then I am not interested. I would prefer to play new game plus over starting from scratch just for slightly better graphics. The original still looks great in 60 FPS.

[@nicholasharfield8780]

It's even more disingenuous to compare the HZ1 Remaster to Spider-Man Remastered. Spider-Man was a bonus added to Miles Morales at only £20

[@stevenkaye1625]

@@THU31 Sure, but I don't think there's anything wrong with them polishing the game up a bit, considering it has extra graphical features on PC. They can, at the very least, bring it up to parity with that.

[@stevenkaye1625]

@@nicholasharfield8780 I'm not sure what you're saying -- so if this HZD remaster is a £20 upgrade fee for anyone that owns the original, you'd be okay with that then? How about the GTAV "remaster" then that was released on PS4/Xbox One a YEAR after its original release on PS3/Xbox360? I don't remember anyone being up in arms about that. Or the Last of Us Remaster that was released on PS4 a YEAR after it came out on PS3. The irony here is that those two examples and the subsequent comparison videos were two of Digital Foundry's most popular videos. This type of thing is their bread and butter, so it's very strange to hear everyone there suddenly so down on it.

[@nicholasharfield8780]

@@stevenkaye1625 yeah, if the HZD remaster was a £10-20 upgrade it'd be find. And, again, you're being disingenuous. The GTA V remaster brought the game, that had a big online user base, to systems that didn't support the previous version. Completely different scenario but you lack the ability to look at context

[@GrundleStiltSkin]

HZD ps5 remaster will be, higher base resolution, faster loading utilizing gen 4 SSD, draw distance, and level of detail at distance.

[@Neoxon619]

I’m pretty sure a leak clarified that the Horizon 1 PS5 version is actually a remaster, probably along the lines of what Spider-Man got (as was mentioned in the video). To be honest, that makes way more sense than a remake.

[@bloomerb4162]

That makes much more sense. Like the GoT ps5 version.

[@AutoAbsolute]

Ha same - plays well on steam deck. Annoying that when I pick up on PC graphical settings are retained.

[@ZeitGeist_TV]

Even if it is a remaster - 5:20 which Rich correctly asserts aside from the PS5 patch a full blown remaster still makes no sense to pull the studio into doing that vs something else not to mention you know it's likely not going to be a free upgrade. HZD wasn't just a fps boost and had improved lighting, better controls and gaming animations etc the only thing missing was RT.

[@CharcharoExplorer]

Tzar: The Burden of the Crown is Bulgaria's first official game. It is pretty good though some of its UI (not so much mechanics) choices have aged. Another issue it has is the AI is not that great but no RTS had great AI at the time. I am happy you liked my country's first official major AA game!

[@RedzioMk1]

Oh my god, Tzar! It's game from my youth time, i still play it! Love the soundtrack and aesthetic! Greetings from Poland! :)

[@CharcharoExplorer]

@@RedzioMk1 I like it a lot. It is a very good first attempt. Celtic Kings and its expansion pack - Carthage. I love that even more.

[@NeroVingian40]

Hey, Alex, I know that Tzar game! It was this sort of AoE game, but with fictional history, with the campaign pitted you against a force of evil or something. It also has dragons, Arabian djinns and Japanese samurai warriors lmao. It was fun! Growing up, I didn’t have access to a lot of games, a friend of my dad saw me replaying Pokémon (illegally) over and over again on our family PC and gave me the game to try. It was fine, the big moment that I remember was that this game was the gateway for me to try the whole classic CnC games and the duo of Blizzard’s RTS games (Starcraft and Warcraft). So, yeah, it always have a nostalgic place in my heart.

[@RedzioMk1]

Oh my god you mentioned TZAR :o I love this game - i was playing it like for 6-8hours per day when i was 6 years old. Still have it on my old and new PC. Great soundtrack and aesthetic. Greetings from Poland!

[@umeng2002]

I recently placed Horizon Zero Dawn on the PC, and in certain places it looks absolutely incredible.

[@futureskeletons66669]

I gave Horizon 10 hrs and just felt myself die inside with the fetch quests. You've got to have have a 10/10 game before I'm going to entertain another open world anything and Horizon while it is a very good game, just doesn't have it to want me to sink 50+ hrs into it.

[@bingobongo1615]

HZD would be at least a 9/10 game if it was just battling cool robo dinosaurs in a straight forward slightly insane action game. Instead it had to be "cinematic“ and was stretched with busy work and lame dialogue…

[@8BitRetroMonkey]

That was my main issue with it and even HFW, the side quests are just fetch quests. Tired of this open world formula. GOW did things differently which I appreciated

[@dickdanson]

A lot of boring traversal required as well between missions, i mainlined the story but still the amount of time wasted travelling from your nearest fast travel location to the actual mission was frustrating as hell.

[@8BitRetroMonkey]

@@dickdanson this is why I actually prefer linear games now.

[@dickdanson]

@@8BitRetroMonkey 100%

[@alansmith4655]

A HZD remake is not needed at all. Who tf is making these decisions at Sony.

[@marcelo.mm.martins]

Thank you very much for this episode. You guys work hard and the results are always great.

[@ZM-333]

yay sony sell your not old games again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@voidmind]

What would be interesting to test is if running the game on Proton + Linux would make DirectX 11 games run well. Presumably when the driver is released in Kernel 6.0, it will support Vukan (what else is there to support on Linux?). So this means all Direct X games will be translated to Vulkan by Proton.

[@ScrapKing73]

I’m calling it now… the too big project that Jon’s working on is Intellivision vs. Colecovision! ;-) (I wish!)

[@Beaut_Beau]

I would love to see a whole video from Alex about some or all of his favourite RTS games! PLEASE!!!!!!

[@Se7en2107]

When you accidentally said Chris Bratt, I was imagining a very polite, British Mario going around the Mushroom Kingdom yelling "oh sugar" and greeting Bowser with "it's ya boi" and I really want to see that now 😂

[@jimmyrichards5595]

It's *Pratt*, Chris Pratt

[@EDcaseNO]

@@jimmyrichards5595 They know, Chris Bratt does video game journalism stuff, "People make games" is the youtube channel.

[@jimmyrichards5595]

@@EDcaseNO Ok, I didn't know that. I was wondering if you typed what you did on purpose, for a reason unbeknownst to me. They say you learn something new every day! Cheers

[@generalcjg]

01:21:43 I REALLY want to see remakes or remasters of games like 007: The World is Not Enough, WWF No Mercy, Rayman 2, Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2005), Need for Speed Underground 1-2, Gran Turismo 1-6, Forza Motorsport 1-4, NFL Blitz 2000-2003, ESPN NFL 2K5, Madden NFL 2004-08 (Sixth Gen console versions) but particularly Madden 08 because I know a certain KZbinr who would LOVE to get this game remastered or remade, NBA 2K11, Kid Icarus Uprising, Metal Gear Solid 1 and 4 (as well as the MSX games), Jak & Daxter games, Resistance games, Killzone 1-3, Little Big Planet 1-2, Syphon Filter, and more. Some of these could be made backwards compatible on current Xbox consoles (looking at the Forza Motorsport games to be precise), which I would still take over nothing, but remasters certainly would help for the sixth gen and seventh gen games I mentioned above; while the fifth gen games definitely could use a full remake.

[@Swiglr]

The last of us part 1 remake, was pretty close to the bare minimum for a remake, and only because of it's artistic and technical focus on characters. I can understand a horizon remaster from the same internal reason last of us was remastered but it would honestly bring nothing other then scrutiny.

[@paulmcgarry75]

One of the things I haven't seen anyone mention as probable reason that we are getting all these remasters/remakes is because Sony is now releasing games for PC. As primarily a console maker there is a strong motivation for them to make sure the "best" version of any game is available on their current console, which means some sort of update/remaster/remake after the PC releases. If the time between PS and PC decreases, we'll probably see more at the update/remaster end than remakes, but at the moment they are working through a large uplift on a bunch of last gen games.

[@xBINARYGODx]

Isaac talking, if he is going to sound anything like in the second game, is a mistake. He is not supposed to sound like a gruff action hero - and a silent protagonist can help make the player feel alone.

[@RealziesCuts]

The best remaster that no one has talked about yet would be the Smugglers run games 💫🎮🏆

[@FenderUsa]

Doubt they'd sell much

[@Darksjeik]

There’s interesting reports of people not getting a video signal from the ARC cards when used on certain monitors. To me that sounds like more of an issue than lackluster dx11 support. 😮

[@lancealex382]

Cmon now John, which VR games are better than Half-life Alyx? I can't think of any

[@Jo0j]

How could you not mention Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory for remaster/remake? Unreal 5...nanite for levels/models , lumen for lighting and shadows, tighten up controls/animations, this game screams it. Since Metal Gear left the building the stealth genre has been slim pickin's for a while now, it blows my mind they haven't done it.

[@xBINARYGODx]

Ubi hates SC, for the most part, it seems. A new game, that might jump the shark even more, is about the best you can hope for. I hope I am very wrong.

[@d3x7r0]

Funnily enough, Project Gotham Racing was published by MS and made by Bizarre. Bizarre was bought by Activision. If MS acquires activision, that would at least put all the rights in the same place so MS could do something with the franchise. I doubt they would do it now that they have Forza Horizon to fill the same general style of racing games though.

[@xBINARYGODx]

Interesting.

[@emlyndewar]

I can’t stand Forza Horizon, there’s definitely space in the market for the game. Make it less attitude, social media and cringe! We’ll never see another PGR but I can dream. In a similar vein, I’ve always hoped Driveclub would be resurrected somehow on PlayStation.

[@apokolipsmeow5481]

Rich is such a young soul. Love that Superman 2 quote.

[@Richard_T89]

Props for that Superman 2 reference. Kneel before Zod.

[@wertywerrtyson5529]

Speaking of driving a Ford Focus in a driving game. I personally prefer to drive more regular cars rather than super exotic cars that I’ve barely even seen in real life. Taking some trash car and built it up into a monster that beats super cars is much more satisfying than driving some car that only a hedgefond owner can afford.

[@Mrs_Puffington]

I think the Horizon remaster will turn out to be not much more than a simple native PS5 version to keep up with the PC release. I also believe we'll see this for other titles like The Last of Us 2 for example. If it is a full fetched remake, they lost their minds.

[@Neoxon619]

It’ll probably also add the accessibility options of the sequel, such as gyro aiming & highlighted climbing areas.

[@whothou9154]

@@Neoxon619 still not worth it

[@hellfire1947]

Still Pointless....Seems like a money grab to me ??I mean Horizon zero dawn Already Looks Good enough *Got 60 fps patch

[@gothpunkboy89]

@@hellfire1947 the entire concept of video games is a money grab. You don't like it you don't buy it.

[@weaverquest]

We have already seen this with Death Stranding, Ghost of Tsushima, and Uncharted 4/Lost Legacy. Essentially $10 upgrades to get the unique PS5 features like DualSense, 3D audio, faster load times, and access to more GPU horsepower than the 60 fps backwards compatibility patch provides. I don't know why the rumors say its a remake when it says remaster on the document as well.

[@jakedill1304]

I love this subtle like manhandling of industrial size water bottles that seems to be going on. Alex with his simple one or 1.5 you know, then then John shows up with his two.. I feel like the best thing for the next few minutes and if needed you could plan this for the next episode but Rich needs to pull out the actual water cooler jug stock and just rip the top off casually to complete the progression.

[@nnnneeeeuuuu]

Need for Speed having a similar art direction with those splashes that SF6 has will run that art style to the ground way faster than I imagined

[@pumakane]

There's no way that Sony aint owned by Mr. Krabs.

[@bastiHST90]

Why are the timestamps always a bit off?

[@Macho_Fantastico]

I'm loving all these classic games being given the ray-tracing treatment, they look amazing.

[@Tofuey]

I am praying for stuff like RTX remix willwork with Games like Bioshock and dark souls 1. 2 of my absolute favorite games and I'd love to experience them with improved visuals.

[@8BitRetroMonkey]

I think the main problem with Horizon Zero Dawn was the very poor voice acting (other than the main characters) which a remaster or remake would not rectify. It might even make it worse if everting else was improved. That is assuming they re-use the voice acting which I would very much assume they would.

[@sellingacoerwa8318]

Sounded fine to me

[@saruboss18]

I think u mean lip sync

[@8BitRetroMonkey]

@@saruboss18 no the actual voices

[@nicholasharfield8780]

My issue with the game was its uninteresting RPG elements. The story was interesting enough without static, dull talking scenes sucking the life out of it (with meaningless dialogue choices offering nothing of value)

[@devan_danger]

While yes the sidequest dialogue did just kinda exist. I think the real problem with the first game there was their automated animation system that made everyone seem robotic. Maybe they ran out of time and money but it really gave the presentation a black eye for what is otherwise a gorgeous game. I would hope that they mocap all of the cutscenes and possibly even rewrite some of those quests.

[@astreakaito5625]

Where's the Killzone remake T_T

[@sugarhigh4242]

If you run Arc on Linux using Steam+Proton, you'd have the Valve-optimized DX11 (or dx9) translation to Intel's Vulkan driver. Has anyone compared that to performance on Windows? And what prospects are there for an Intel "APU" running on handheld PCs, SteamOS console boxes, or just straight consoles from MS/Sony?

[@aL3891_]

With optical flow data and the path dlss3 is taking, I wonder if we'll see per object motion blur being available at the driver level at some point

[@Wobbothe3rd]

Ampere already has acelleration for motion blur but so far no games have used it. perhaps the new optical flow could help further.

[@TerraWare]

@@Wobbothe3rd That's the biggest issue with the 4090. It looks like it packs a punch and has nice features but there aren't any games out there to really take advantage of it, not really compared to Ampere's and RDNA 2's launch anyway. We had a new AC game, Cyberpunk was really anticipated and was a ray tracing masterpiece for RTX 3000. This time we have Cyberpunk again. Yay I guess? A Plague Tale seems like it could be interesting but they havent showed much of ray tracing footage.

[@sw1zzy940]

@@TerraWare just like the launch of Turing without a single Dlss/RT game released

[@HeloisGevit]

@@TerraWare Literally every DLSS supporting title going forward will be DLSS 3, and NVIDIA already revealed a list of games that will have support this year.

[@TerraWare]

@@HeloisGevit Yeah DLSS 3 is nice but I'm not talking about just more frames and don't yet know how I feel about the fake frames. I'm talking about new experiences designed to take advantage of the extra ray tracing horse power. Something like Cyberpunk was for RTX 3000. The Racer X or whatever it was called seems like a cool demo but it's just that a demo.

[@creativityandme]

Justice for The Leak!

[@scottsutton140]

Greed motivates everything Sony does.

[@HastyElderHaman]

Ah yes Sony is the only greedy corporation.

[@SC0RPI0NFURY]

Not greed, only business. Long term marketing strategies is something Sony are really good at

[@antivanti9805]

Apparently ARC cards already uses a translation layer for legacy APIs. It translates from for example DX9 to DX12 using some Microsoft code. But that code is probably made just for compatibility and may not have had as much optimization as the Vulkan translation that Proton uses for example. Would be interesting to see how performant the Intel cards are running Proton

[@franzusgutlus54]

After episode 69 it's all downhill. Some folks are looking foward to episode 88, but I am not in that crowd...

[@UserInterface00]

Do we really need a remake of anything? Majority of the time the answer will always be a mixed bag. If you don’t like it just move along, doesn’t hurt you because it’s always out of your control for them not to do so.

[@R17759]

Plenty of old games (mainly pre HD era games) could do with remakes. But most of those games that people want remade wouldn’t sell well enough to justify the cost of doing it. This is why we get Last of Us and Horizon again.

[@VariantAEC]

@@R17759 There are loads of IP on PS3 that could be remade for the current gen if PS really wanted to just "milk" things - as people like to say. Someone in another thread mentioned Killzone. Some leaks are wrong and what if this is a Killzone 1 remake for PS5. If so that would be amazing! I don't recall if the original on PS2 game sold huge numbers back in the day never mind how few people knew the strengths of their PS3 games and a remaster of those would be incredible. Maybe it's actually a Killzone: Mercenaries remaster (that game is trapped on PS Vita)? Way less likely an FPS version of Killzone: Liberation (trapped on PSP for now). Killzone: Shadow Fall (PS4) doesn't need a remaster or remake even though some sequences aren't as impressive as they once were it still looks and runs phenomenally on PS5 as is via native BC.

[@opinali]

I just started Horizon Zero Dawn (on PC) a couple weeks ago, now close to the end of the story but moving slowly as I'm doing every side quest. This game doesn't need a "remake" but despite its strong visuals (fantastic for the time), it certainly deserves a remaster: - Very noticeable texture popping all the time, even though I have a beast machine for this game: 5900X, 6800XT, 980Pro SSD. - Illumination is mediocre even for its era. Cities look like they're made of papier-mâché, geology which plays a huge role in level design casts very poor shadows, time-of-day is also used in the game but the effect is very limited, shadows from clouds are another joke, baked lights in underground facilities (cauldrons etc) are incredibly artificial, energy/fire balls thrown by guns are not light sources, etc. This game SCREAMS for Ray Tracing.

[@thisisnotmychannel4860]

THEY NEED TO REMAKE MORROWIND ASAP. DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING. LITERALLY GIVE ME THE SAME BROKEN GAME BUT WITH BEAUTIFUL GRAPHICS...

[@vgaportauthority9932]

Hearing PSVR2 be talked about as a real thing is just so awesome. I only really care about VR these days, and PSVR2 has been on my horizon for so long, and now we're finally getting so close, they're real and they exist out there. Got my PS5 waiting in the closet, I am so keen to get my hands on this thing. After 2 years of mostly Quest 2 native and PCVR, I am really looking forward to new hardware. Can not wait to get back into Dreams. Love that thing.

[@Dick_Valparaiso]

I played Horizon ZD on PS4. I bought a PS5 and got HZD w/all dlc for free last year. I thought to myself that was going to be the pinnacle of HZD. ...Now, should I even try to finish the game? I'm willing to bet that there will be an upgrade path to the HZD remaster. However, I'm also willing to bet that all of us who got the game for free won't be able to upgrade. We'll have to buy another full release if we want to play the "definitive version". ...I know that I *definitely* won't buy a HZD remaster at full price. The only way I'll play it is if it goes deep discount. Or, if Sony makes it a PS+ title. Imo, that's what they should've done with TLOU1 Remastered. Seeing all the effort that could've gone into new ip's or enhancing other bc titles is pretty frustrating.

[@leechallenor787]

Great video. Good points. I would want to see remasters VR2 games that were compatible with the PS3 and 3D TVs. Killzone 3 remaster , Resistance, Motorstorm games. Would this make sense and easer to develper to VR?

[@SC0RPI0NFURY]

I think one of the reasons why Sony are making these Remakes and Remasters is because most of these games will be PS VR2 compatible, you will most likely be able to play these games and the new upcoming Sony titles in stereoscopic VR, similar to the games you mentioned here. The cream of the crop VR games will be the native VR games but this will be an add-on feature to fill in the gaps so to speak so it will be a lot to play on the PS VR2 when it releases

[@chilldude30]

Knowledgeable dudes always love hearing thd news from you

[@chillnspace777]

Lol that opening. You can taste the exhaustion

[@arsenkay]

Let's get cracking, boys! The DF Direct is up!

[@TheNerd]

To be honest I would like to see a "remastered" Version of Horizon Zero Dawn but more like a "Definitive" Edition. - They fixed A LOT of small but annoying bugs in the PC Version that the PS4 Version still has - An overhaul of all animations - a small overhaul of the graphics features (For example DLSS / FSR for the PC Version (if think it already has it but I might be wrong)) - a specific PS5 Version with a graphics update (Water, Volumetrics etc.) Overall I'm thinking like a "Divinity Original Sin 2 Definitive Edition" which made a 7/10 game a 9/10 Game. Or "Persona 5 -> Persona 5 Royal" (which is prbly the best jRPG of all time) might be another example. Just make a great game a masterpiece.

[@existentialselkath1264]

In some shots in the nfs trailer you can see the cars reflect their own bodywork, and in others they don't. My guess is that RT will be enabled for a 30fps mode and the trailer is a mix of footage

[@j.d.6915]

I'll mention two old school games that not very many people probably remember, Shogun, and Below the Root. Loved both of them.

[@AntoineThisdale]

Quake 1 Ray Traced. OMG. I'm just now replaying the whole thing. I gotta get my hands on this!

[@autumn_rain]

OMG, Alex mentioned Tzar: The Burden of the Crown.

[@Notisfan77]

When I read the title I thought "Horizon 1 Remake" was about Forza Horizon 1 and I thought "Oh hell yeah!!!" :D

[@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY]

How about a Killzone remastered?

[@VariantAEC]

This would be a good use of Guerrilla's talent. Killzone 1-3 remade from the ground up for PS5! Count me in!

[@Crimsongz]

With multiplayer😍

[@shaneosullivan8546]

Include Mercenaries from the Vita and that's my dream compilation. Update Shadowfall for 60fps while their at it.

[@VariantAEC]

@@shaneosullivan8546 Killzone: Shadow Fall is already 60FPS on PS5 as it's framerate was always unlocked and targeted 60 you can artificially lock the game to respect a 30hz update in the options menu added via a patch for the original PS4 release. The game was nearly locked at 60FPS on PS4 Pro.

[@shaneosullivan8546]

@@VariantAEC It barely sits at 45 on Pro but very stable at 30 compared to base ps4. Pretty sure from playing on ps5 that its not a stable 60 so a bit of proper optimisation would be nice.

[@hednik]

Accessibility options and ease of life options. This would be a mainstream option for those interested by a new PS5 and the series coming from Netflix.

[@Ast0sH]

Im kinda sad cuz they announced the price in Germany today and i don't know if it's really due to the war or stuff but the arc price is around 430-490€/$ here. Just for comparison, after all those out of stock, we can find now a rtx3060 for 390€ and rtx3060 TI for 420€. I don't really know what happened but not its absolutely sure this card will fail in Europe which had always be a Huge market for US card...

[@Mythaelos]

The continuous use of the Frostbite engine in anything that is not a Battlefield game is not something to be hyped about.

[@kingotime8977]

It would be really nice to see Sony remaster their older VR-titles like Nintendo did with all their ports from the WIi-U to the Switch, as many people (myself included) haven't had PSVR1 and would like to experience the older titles.

[@drd2093]

You start with Proton and DXVK which translate dx11 to Vulkan at sometimes better-than-native speed. You contribute to and use DXVK internally to your driver, everyone wins. Except it’s Intel so that’ll never happen

[@nathantron]

TZAR is fucking awesome. Loved that game, cannot get it to run at all now... :(

[@daverhodus]

1:11:38 I hope AMD's vision of the future is GPUs that people can afford to buy.

[@xBINARYGODx]

based on the past couple of years - expect "better pricing than Nvidia" and dont assume that is really a good thing wrt the final price. I REALLY hope to be wrong.

[@WaffleCake]

HZD Remake? Seriously? The original release is still one of the best looking games in existence. The game's also remarkably unremarkable.

[@JinglesOnJuniper]

I don’t understand why people are throwing such harsh judgement at the voice acting when we’ve literally heard 2 sentences. Just wait for the movie and then decide haha

[@peppyrobo7049]

Sony not putting in the effort to make the PSVR 1 playable on PSVR 2 is a really bad idea

[@chillnspace777]

Atleast do the games that matter?

[@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418]

I would love Digital Foundary to finally take a look at Linux, Proton, DXVK, VKD3D outside of the Deck. There is an interesting possibility that the Intel cards will perform uniformly better on Linux and thus SteamOS 3.0 over Windows when looking at DX9/11. As the whole stack on Linux around DX9/11 is to translate the game calls to Vulkan. The relevant vulkan Linux GPU drivers for Intel are due in December. This becomes relevant to Windows as DXVK DLLs can be used on Windows but I don't know if Proton, and Gamescope which are part of SteamOS/Linux gaming will help performance also. Intel and MS solution is the use of a subpar DX12 based solution that hasn't had 4+ years of development and testing to ultimately support a consumer device (SteamDeck) and consumer focussed gaming OS (SteamOS).

[@corey2232]

I have a question similar to one asked - why don't developers use DLSS/FSR/etc PERIOD? Not just with RT effects, but why do so many games not use them at all? Been playing through a lot of PC games lately, especially from Game Pass, & I'm constantly surprised to find out how few use these technologies. Any commenter out there able to answer? Is it a licensing thing that just costs too much?

[@VariantAEC]

DLSS requires ML training to be done separately. It used to be that Nvidia handled that, but I think now devs can do the training in-house, but either way it takes time and some small tweaking by the dev plus a Game Works license. (I'm an outsider and have no first-hand knowledge of this process... If I happened to provide details about the processes involved in DLSS ML training and Nvidia licensing deals with developers, it is by coincidence)

[@mryellow6918]

@@VariantAEC no, thats the other way around

[@rayyanamir8560]

Because of planned obsolescence. They want you to buy better hardware rather than sticking with the same hardware

[@EDcaseNO]

@@mryellow6918 If you are talking about dev tweaking, I'm sure DLSS would involve some interaction, preferences... But much of that process is handled by Nvidia's algorithm, whereas FSR can achieve similar results but requires more of an authors hand getting there. @Rayyan 'Planned obsolescence'... No. The devs want to sell to as many as possible, the hardware vendors want to include new features to push hardware sales. That's a lose lose situation amigo. Truth is it's new, has some small hurdles, and currently helps a small proportion of the market. Only recently (past ~2 years) proved fruitful and hardware/games take a while to develop, going forward I expect most heavy games to implement at least one form of upscaling and new hardware to include acceleration.