DF Direct Weekly #90: The Game Awards Reaction, Callisto Protocol Dramatically Improves

[@fourlights]

Richard is the picture of true happiness in that thumbnail.

[@DigitalFoundry]

Geoff has that effect on me.

[@XYZ-pm3ju]

@@DigitalFoundry Is that the dog or something?

[@Tyranniod]

@@XYZ-pm3ju Yes his dog is named Geoff Keighley.

[@XYZ-pm3ju]

@@Tyranniod That is adorable!

[@pedramesmaeelzadeh2367]

That pic gives Sid from Ice Age vibes

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

I want Alex to know I appreciated his Pimp My Ride joke at 53:57. "Some Xzibit style streaming" 😂😂😂

[@joker927]

Thank you for posting timestamps. Super valuable

[@mustang750r]

And yet time stamps are completely absent in all their other videos sadly

[@anthonybrunet5378]

If you're using timestamps you're missing out on the Blasphemy, though.

[@MetalJoshi156]

1:04:08 Seeing Rich in those parody thumbnails is the funniest thing I've seen all year. The faces, arrows, emojis, "Your mum", absolutely spot on.

[@NOTMuzzaFuzza]

I had to rewind to re watch those, thinking I imagined some haha Absolute gold!

[@mikem2253]

Lol man those are money. Perfectly sums up all of KZbin right now

[@MetalJoshi156]

@@mikem2253 It statistically works as well. I know most of these creators really don't want to do it deep down but it's what generates the views and ad revenue.

[@Zeouterlimits]

oh my god, these are incredible (and painful)

[@sean8102]

Yeah they completely nailed parodying those type of thumbnails.

[@brandon_nope]

That Armored Core VI trailer was so beautiful, even though it was pre-rendered

[@thanksbetotap]

Rarely do pre-rendered trailers get me hyped, but that one was insanely cool and gorgeous.

[@BoyProdigyBaby]

Yeah, it was on Bilzzard level

[@pennywisethedancingclown7139]

How you all gonna comment 2 and 3 days ago on a video that was just uploaded? What am I missing here lol

[@TheBean87]

@@pennywisethedancingclown7139members get the videos early

[@simonrockstream]

@@pennywisethedancingclown7139 Patreon early access

[@AgsmaJustAgsma]

27:53 Sporefoken, the sequel that EA and Maxis refuse to make.

[@mikerenna4027]

Thanks for answering my question! I did, in fact, mean 100 nits. Sadly, projectors generally can only reach about 100 nits (give or take) after calibration. That's why I put HDR in quotes. They can accept an HDR signal but have to tonemap it way down. That's why HDR on projectors is a little misleading. It can still look fantastic, but nothing like OLEDS. I also think the Switch looks amazing on my Epson 5050UB. Mario Kart is a blast at 140". But I generally agree that OLED quality with HDMI 2.1 provides a superior experience than the projector. Cheers!

[@techsamurai11]

It's all FOV (field of view) - there's a calculator out there that will show you the angle for any screen size and distance. A 55 inch at 5 feet distance is the same as a 110 inch screen at 10 feet. They are both 43.6 degrees which is IMAX level. Your eyes can only focus on 30 degree angle and I believe that's a bit high (it's substantially better in the middle as there is a higher density of cone cells) but I'm no expert. I have a 55 inch from 11-12 feet that yields a 20 degree view. It's ridiculously comfortable for me to see the entire soccer match, tennis court, and when I play games, I see everything. I'll upgrade to a 65 inch but I'm not sure I really want to do that. When you watched this video, do you maximize the window? I usually keep it on the smaller side on a 27 inch and maximize it on a 15 inch laptop. Maxed out on a 27inch, it's a FOV of 2.2 which overwhelms me. A 130 inch projector from 10 feet away is 50 degrees so it's about the same as a 27 inch from 2 feet away. When you work do you see the entire screen? The point of a movie and a game is a bit different than working.

[@LukeBenMBay]

I game on a 120 inch screen, sitting 12 ft from it, and it's awesome. I know it's theoretically the same as being 6.5 ft away from a 65" TV, but I tried it with my TV and I swear it's not the same feeling. Also, being away from the screen makes the surround sound (and Atmos if you've got it) really surround you. You have to try it to believe it. The bigger is clearly the better for me. So much more immersive. But I agree with Alex that 30 fps games tends to be noticeably choppy, especially FPS games.

[@blackcaesar8387]

@@LukeBenMBay This! the immersion of a projector screen is not just about how it fills your view, but also about how it fills the space. Since I bought a projector 2 years ago with a 120-inch screen. I have barely touched my 55-inch. Not even for stuff like youtube. But the sad truth is that if you are a videophile (which the people at DF obviously are), you will always want OLED quality over a big screen. I want both, but as long as a 100-inch OLED costs as much as a small SUV, then it's projectors for me.

[@mikerenna4027]

@@blackcaesar8387 I guess, for me, deciding between a 65" C2 and 140" Epson 5050UB is a good problem to have.

[@chknshack2220]

I've been gaming on a projector for over 10 years in a dedicated movie room. I just recently increased the size from 100 to 120 and love it. I sit roughly 17-18ft away. My next big purchase will be the JVC DLA-NP5 supporting 4k 120 with hdmi 2.1. I definitely enjoy it but also understand everyone has unique circumstances and performance targets. 🙂

[@soundthatyoucansee123]

The "twenty pieces of silver resource management Judas game" concept got a surprising belly laugh out of me

[@charlesballiet7074]

the best part was the send off with reformed ewish rabbi bill C

[@envirovore]

While that whole bit had me chuckling, I lost it at Rich's idea.

[@johnboylan3832]

Edgy. Now do Mohammed.

[@donshillon9926]

90 episodes in and you guys just get better and better. I love this channel.

[@Alcatraz760]

The Naughty Dog blog posts for Part 1 PC and Uncharted lost legacy seem to imply they're building an internal PC team and "adding PC development to the way we develop games". So, seems like they're the first Sony studio to embrace PC fully and not give it to other studios?

[@12coco100]

Probably bc last of us factions will be on pc day 1 so they can update the game in unison of the ps5 version

[@Alcatraz760]

@@12coco100 Agree with that. They’re using Part 1 to bring their engine to PC, and then they’ll use that engine to make that factions game on PC day one.

[@adremal1840]

Warhammer 40k Space Marine 2 looks insane , wasn't expecting this level of visuals from that studio , biggest surprise of the show for me.

[@montygill2835]

I remember paying £70 for Turok on N64 back in 1997 🤯

[@BurritoKingdom]

$80 for Chrono Trigger in 1995

[@adnanasif9538]

$70 for wcw vs. Nwo revenge at launch

[@amnril]

So in real terms, todays games are cheap….. eek!

[@adnanasif9538]

@@amnril Why do you think DLCs, micro transactions, game passes are common these days?

[@amnril]

@@adnanasif9538 those are all optional of course but yes, that’s a good point.

[@gameguy301]

The amount of stuff on screen in the space marine 2 trailer was impressive, it’s like EDF if it had good graphics.

[@Decenium]

edf is super impressive though imo, for what it does you dont see any other game like it

[@samgoff5289]

I hate all the colors that make it look like fortnite

[@Grandmastergav86]

@@Decenium EDF is insane - they've had a few duds - Iron Rain, Insect Armageddon - but the series is mostly great.

[@JFLTX]

Insomniac gave RT with 1440p on 60hz why can't others do that? Spiderman and Ratchet and Clank looked awesome and ran well.

[@TristanTheVRGamecat]

Because they are very talented and great at optimisations allowing them to go further , most third party devs have to work to build they games on multiple specs of hardware and it takes a toll just a talent and a passion there that's missing in most places focusing on making a game as great as it can for a single piece of hardware it's the ideal scenario for getting the best result

[@goncaloduarte4683]

Very few game engines are very well optimized for RT like Insomniac's, there's basically only UE5 and the one The devs of Metro Exudus use.

[@JFLTX]

@Gonçalo Duarte with the increased cost in next gen games, there just shouldn't be an excuse for piss poor optimization.

[@artvandalleigh7894]

Insomniac has the luxury of building for a fixed and closed system when designing their game. Also, Insomniac is just coming off a 2 year period where they put games and performance options at level and quality that makes most studios look like they have no idea what they're doing. I wish most developers could be like Insomniac, but there is a reason that their production and talent are noteworthy.

[@JFLTX]

Another example was Developers of Doom Eternal. They optimized a last gen title perfectly for Series X and PS5. That was prior to Microsoft acquisition too.

[@MichaelCordeiro]

"Two weeks of blasphemy in a row" What a great chat. That line had me spitting out my tea.

[@neocaron87]

Hey team! You can actually insert FSR 2.X in any DLSS games through a very easy mod and it works better than it has any right to. It was great for my 1080ti, though now that I have a 4090 it doesn't really matter to me. Anyway, always a pleasure to watch the weeky! Looking forward to the 100st!

[@sunyavadin]

It's fantastic.

[@tylerclayton6081]

So that’s only useful for cards without DLSS?

[@darkdraconis]

How many people have the 4090 lmao? At this point 50% of DF viewers have one

[@TerraWare]

@@darkdraconis some do. Many high end pc enthusiasts watch DF I guess

[@athlonzero]

oil daddy

[@rabbitenjoyer6320]

Rich at 27:44: "Chad Warden all about games." 💀

[@dopespillcomics]

I’m so glad to see Alex in a better mood, I was worried

[@10whiten99]

The Forspoken demo must have cheered him up!

[@cosmonautikal536]

Me too. Hope he can keep it up and must be happy that developers listen to him. I mean could you not; he's like a puppy. It breaks the heart to leave him hanging.

[@xfunkypicklex]

@@10whiten99 don't you mean sporefoken? 🤣

[@10whiten99]

@@xfunkypicklex haha, indeed! Not sure where I got “Forspoken” from

[@TheProphegy]

You guys only having 1.28m subs is criminal. It’s still a lot but given the community size for gaming you guys deserve a ton more. 💪🏼

[@umeng2002]

The price hike is barely an issue for me since I haven't paid full price for a game more than once or twice in the past 5 years. Devs aren't releasing complete games, so they're won't get a complete price.

[@danbooke2001]

THIS.

[@Edino_Chattino]

FF16 runs on a modified version of FF14´s engine, which itself is a heavily modified version of Luminous that branched of during its development. You could say it´s Luminous-B v3. And that new engine will be ported back to FF14 for a graphics overhaul.

[@merritt2014]

Yeah it's just one of those things where I'm happy they're addressing the issues with Callisto, but man you gotta really release a game like this in a better state. I get having like a patch/feature road map in a multiplayer game or a huge open world game, but a 12 hour linear horror game????? It's almost too little too late.

[@peckc16]

The "some people" thing is something all the pr teams at games do. I love calling it out as gaslighting though 😂

[@rafadono]

Omg those thumbnails are GOLD! Whoever did it is a genius

[@Matt-hb7tu]

The thing that confuses me about the stutter is how does no one play it and say guys, we need to compile them in the menu

[@RobertFromEarth]

From my experience, it's all about impossible deadlines. At one point, the company management pushes for a release, the developers wrap the thing as best as they can leaving on the table a huge list of "things broken or not done" ...like pre-compiled shaders!

[@concinnus]

Part of it may be that it's no longer an issue while they're cached. So for most test runs, it won't be much of an issue.

[@modermonkula]

When the game starts just have an option "compile shaders yes/no ?" Isn't it that easy to solve the problems?.

[@Ehal256]

@@modermonkula Generally when something seems easy and isn't done, and you aren't an expert, you should probably assume there is another reason for it.

[@LamestLameOK]

@@Ehal256 There's a way to do this on DX11 version of games running on UE4. All you have to do is copy and paste a line in the games Engine.ini. Why couldn't the developers just do that? It's so silly.

[@jal.ajeera]

1:04:05 SKIP TO THIS!!!!!! And then listen to the rest of it coz the team is amazing...but skip to the time stamp first!!!!!

[@frankbreuer7185]

As an Series X user I have to say yeah, Callisto Protocol definitely improved, ray tracing is finally on board, but the quality of ray tracing is still not on par with PS5. Which is a shame, because I really love this game.

[@Renk1]

Aww yes, shoveling snow at my yard and listening to DF Direct. Weekend fun.

[@mediaclass2009]

I'm inside with a coffee listening while I procrastinate snow clearing lol.

[@theoldpcgamer77]

Snow, er F that. If I lived where snow fell I'd move. It's about 2c and I'm freezing but at least I won't have any snow to deal with.

[@MarcoPaints]

For me it's painting and listening to DF...bliss

[@djtomoy]

my favourite weekly dose of frame rate gossip

[@TerraWare]

I actually did a quick ray tracing comparison video between the PC and the PS5. The PS5 seems to be running on medium ray traced reflections. Some pretty big cutbacks between high amd medium, especially for things in motion.

[@davecarsley8773]

Ummmm... what game are you talking about???

[@TerraWare]

@@davecarsley8773 Oh The Callisto Protocol. In the beginning they were talking about how Alex hadn't had a chance to compare the ray tracing differences in the game between the PS5 and the PC.

[@Zeouterlimits]

Alex's finger wag, grin + "you bastard" rasp is great, that should be a gif

[@kingotime8977]

Ngl those Richard troll thumbnails are the best thing to ever happen on this channel!

[@nobodyblues]

30fps ray tracing modes are acceptable only if its Gi+shadows or Gi+reflections. on cp2077 you only get rt shadows on consoles and its 1440p 30fps, thats not acceptable imo

[@franscartoons]

Development costs are much higher but the number of sales are much higher too. Publishers still make ever increasing profits, so I don’t fully agree that price hikes are necessary.

[@abass1770]

I would agree that game costs need to rise, if it wasn’t for the fact profits have continued to rise substantially even while they were cheaper.

[@azazelleblack]

Yeah, this whole "abloobloo poor game developers need mo' money fo' dem programs" narrative is horseshit. These companies are making money hand over fist.

[@lordxmugen]

@@azazelleblack They dont even want to pay those people! IN FACT, they'd rather sexually harass or abuse them with crunch and nonpayment or whatever else management can get away with. A "plea for some kind of sanity" like this can ONLY be met with a vicious attack by pretzels!

[@BoomTag]

Shouldn't the shader compilation stutter be looked at during some kind of quality control process throughout the development of a game?

[@danielclark5639]

Skip to 1:02:46 to see what Alex thinks of numbered ratings

[@10whiten99]

Having just tried out GTA V with RT reflections, I am quite pleasantly surprised at the quality of them. It’s only really noticeable on cars and transparent glass, but I recommend anyone with a “next-gen” console to try it out. It’s only 30fps but Rockstar seems to be pretty good at making it feel smooth.

[@Highwaysonyfan87]

GTA 5 doesn’t use ray traced reflections. It uses ray traced sun shadows.

[@dock6]

@@Highwaysonyfan87 they updated the game on 13 dec 2022 to have RT reflections as part of the new Online DLC

[@10whiten99]

@@dock6 RT Reflections and Shadows in combination definitely make it a very clean game to look at, and the resolution is still much higher than in performance mode. That can’t be said with RT mode on the new Witcher update unfortunately, but I hope they are able to improve it. GTA V still holds up very well and I’m hopeful for these RT implementations in VI.

[@emhome924]

Glad to hear Calisto Protocol got better on PC. I refunded on release day. Will buy again in sale.

[@funtourhawk]

RT still looks unplayable (60 fps on a 4090? lmao)...the gameplay is 50% of the reason I refunded anyway

[@Decenium]

is a mediocre at best game anyway

[@Lightsaglowllc]

If you care about RT, I'd stay away. Its absolutely broken.

[@ionseven]

Agreed. If it goes in sale for like 20 bucks I may grab it. Not worth paying for a half hearted port when even the ps5 has optimized raytracing.

[@SobeCrunkMonster]

thank you for being a responsible consumer. im wanting to pull my hair out over the state of the industry AND the state of consumer ethics nowadays. im seriously gonna give myself a heart attack hating on these people.

[@theragingsparten1107]

There are actually some mods that add FSR 2.0+ to games that dont support. They are titled as DLSS Unlocker, im not sure exactly how it works, but it essentially replaces DLSS with FSR

[@WayStedYou]

56:22 record profits and much larger consumer base and paid DLC and MTX have also spiraled out of control.

[@IvoryJazzMan]

If I remember correctly, FFXIV 1.0 (the version that was shut down) used Crystal Tools, the same engine used in FF13. Unfortunately, a limitation of the engine is that it can't display more than 8 characters at the same time, making it particularly unsuitable for an mmo. It also relied heavily on scripting, which made it easier to implement features, but dramatically affected performance. (source: /noclip documentary ep1) 2.0 uses a subset of the luminous engine, remember that the game that morphed into FF15 started several years earlier as a FF13-2 (another game in the FF13 world) so luminous was in development from 2011-12, when ffxiv 2.0 was in active development.

[@loldoctor]

1.0 was definitely able to render more than 8 characters, just search for the ending event on YT. Obviously the whole thing was a mess and ARR really is a miracle revival that deserves a lot of recognition. But people forget the amount of work that went into patching the original game while ARR was in development. I can't imagine how horrible it must have been for them, only for all their work to be deleted.

[@IvoryJazzMan]

@@loldoctor you're right, I remember the 1.0 videos too, but I could swear they said something about an 8 npc limit somewhere, if not /noclip then Fall and Rise 🤔

[@Partyprime]

The swarm engine from Space Marine 2 is the engine that world war z uses.

[@SiStockbridge]

Returnal on PC recommending 32Gb of RAM, dayum!

[@JurisKankalis]

One thing about the masterpiece of a game that DSII will surely be - is that Mads Mikkelsen - the danish actor who's friends with Mr. Kojima himself - and whom Kojima admires (apparently, Mr Kojima has watched all movies with Mikkelsen) - will not participate - which is kinda understandable due to what happened in the first game with the character. Also - the trailer showed black child handprints on a wall in the very beginning - meaning, well, there will be weird stuff in the game - but no one really doubted that anyway. Happy to see the game announced, the first one was an incredibly deep journey into all states of the human paradox.

[@Nolasco.]

I really agree with what you said John, a 30 fps with RT or a 60fps without RT is a very very good trade off, really hope we will see that on future games on consoles. Thanks my dudes 😁👍 P.S Best use of fixed camera angle was in the first silent hill right at the beginning, that was an epic moment.

[@TristanTheVRGamecat]

I'd also like a performance rt mode like in Spiderman if it's possible

[@Nolasco.]

@@TristanTheVRGamecat like the DF crew said in one DF direct (if I did not misunderstand) if the developers plan beforehand for those futures during the development it is possible a 100 procent, must be a developing choice from the get go. Let's hope it becomes standard 😁

[@TilSkywalker]

The fake KZbin-Thumbnails killed me, amazing!

[@leguama]

Releasing a UE4 game without DLSS this day and age is just sad really. All games should come with FSR and DLSS standard. PC state of games still hell, and its sad to see :(

[@ZAPPED916]

I love how every game is broken on release! That’s one of many things I love about the game industry.

[@LucDutra92]

Next thing you see they are only sending you the code and assets for you to develop the game yourself.

[@existentialselkath1264]

I can run portal RTX on my 2060 at 60fps. Granted it looks very blurry with 1080p dlss performance. Point is, it can run on almost anything, it's just the visual quality that scales with hardware.

[@kj1ox]

It would be nice to see you all or some of y’all live during game or tech events like live I think it would be cool

[@matthewbarrios1028]

Just mod the DLL files in the game folder for Control and it will run FSR 2 in place of DLSS in the settings.

[@Armataan]

Giving context to Matthew’s comment, “cyberfsr” is a fan mod that works in most but not all games that support dlss 2, that replaces the dlss files and “tricks” The system into using fsr. It does work, mostly, but it is not without its bugs, glitches, instabilities, and flaws. It also absolutely does not give equivalent quality to native FSR 2.1 support.

[@matthewbarrios1028]

@Armataan Thank you for adding some of the details I didn't. You're right in everything you said. It does work pretty well when implemented. Not perfectly but way better than nothing in most cases I've tried. Either way, thanks for adding that information 👍

[@sunyavadin]

@@Armataan In CP77, PotatoOfDoom's FSR 2.1.2 mod is still considerably better than the native 2.1 implementation, which is unsurprising given how it's been in ongoing development for 6 months, with frequent revisions to refine it, and can be updated way more responsively than CDPR can push revisions to it in new patches for the game, due to the console versions needing certification each time, etc. There are a few things CDPR's implementation tackled better, like ghosting on screen text, but that focus seems to have come at a cost of more artifacting and flicker elsewhere in regular gameplay, stuff Potato's mod focused on fixing early on.

[@Lightsaglowllc]

I have a 4080 and Callisto Protocol's RT is broken. GPU routinely sits at 60% or even lower with HUGE frame dips. FSR makes no difference. Its insane devs allow games to release in such a state.

[@corey_massey]

What part of CPU bound is difficult to understand? After a generation of GPU bound limitations in games the shift towards pushing CPU's to its limit is to be expected. The problem is that everyone upgraded their GPU in anticipation of this generation of games and the GPU's aren't the issue.....its the improper CPU utilization.

[@antonkirilenko3116]

54:03 But John, back when the $60 price was established we didn't have DLC, multiple editions, microtransactions and other forms of monetization. We're well past the point of getting all of the content for $60.

[@lordxmugen]

In this instance, I feel like John is either a corporate parrot or just far more naive than we thought he was. Because you would think someone who follows this industry as close as he does would see the corruption and BS and ridiculous fiscal quarters from a mile away.

[@slopesgameroom]

The Stadia devkit stuff really interests me

[@matsta177]

The Oscar’s showing off new movie trailer would actually be quite awesome! It would be there peers & friends watching what they have been making that year. I’m here for that being an actor and filmmaker myself.

[@VariantAEC]

Pretty sure that's probably already happened.

[@tiromandal6399]

I shed a few tears whenever I think about Red Engine. I really really really hope they do something with it someday and not totally kill it off.

[@handsomesquidward151]

Shed tears? What a melodramatic manbaby jesus christ

[@BlindBison]

It’s a shame yeah - one of the best PC game engines for sure.

[@tiromandal6399]

@@BlindBison Certainly better than UE5 in the shader compilation aspect. Something that killed Callisto Protocol.

[@d.s2660]

I don't pre order any games now. I'm so sick of getting ripped off by games not being ready for release.

[@kirion111]

we had no news about Bluepoint for quite a while i really wonder what are they working atm cos I'm pretty sure they must be working on something...

[@aloluk]

I realise now why XBox didn't increase their prices earlier like Sony. Its because they didn't even have any games to release at the new higher price.

[@yomamasohot6411]

Would you release Starfield at 60$ or 70$?

[@riceeater79]

@@yomamasohot6411 MS hasn't released anything worth $60 in the last 8 years but your arguing to increase the price for a game that hasn't even released yet from a studio know to release broken buggy games? Lol

[@yomamasohot6411]

@@riceeater79 I'm not. I'm just asking you from the pov of a developer, wouldn't you want to charge more from your customers? They were happy to let Sony take all the bad publicity that comes with it so as it is apparent now, Xbox wouldn't have to.

[@hababacon]

With the $70 price tag I ask my older gamers how much did SNES games cost back in 93? I can recall paying $79.99 for Super Street Fighter Turbo, $75 for Super Metroid, $75 for KI on the SNES. The reason being cartridge cost to manufacture. That made sense, however modern times I honestly think it's a money grab. They brag about how new game engines allow them to quickly make high quality assets but somehow game development time has increased. Not only increase, they lunch in a buggy state taking two years to fix (CP2077). It's not that visual, everybody wants to build this big open world epic crap that takes 5 frigging years to develop. Game developer should focus more on creating procedure level deployment systems.

[@hababacon]

Onto Microsoft, all the developers they've purchased since 2018 and they have more games launch exclusively on Sony systems than their own. You have games like Hell Blade 2 announced years ago, shown off years ago and it's not out. Perfect Dark is probably a 2024 title if it doesn't get cancelled. Avowed is either a 2024 or 2025 title. State of Decay 3 shown off years ago and it's not out. By the time Forza 8 launches, it would have been almost 6 years between racing titles. Microsoft either have slowest, or laziest development teams I've seen with few exception. They're not managed well up until this point. I mean Rare Wild game is probably years away from release, and they missed an opportunity to make an awesome Battle Toad game. Rare should have been handling Perfect Dark instead start up team The Initiative which really isn't developing PD, the core of PD is being developed by Crystal Dynamics. Speaking of CD, another game company Microsoft could have purchased from Square Enix for cheap. KI sequel should have been out years and MS missed another opportunity to purchase Double Helix for cheap. A group with decent talent they let slip to Amazon. Is Fable 4 or Legend coming anytime soon? Game Show was a flat-out embarrassment with no titles to show. The talents at the Coalition is spending time cleaning up Halo Infinite which was developed by contractors and not 343I. The actually engine guy was a contractor who left the project. The actually 343I developers were left trying to figure out how to use the Slip space engine after the contractor left. I mean, what kind show are they running over there? The only thing their leaders are good for is good PR to distract from their lack of content to show. This worked in 2018, 2019, 2020 they could blame Covid, but 2022? Red Fall is another Back for Blood, Left for Day clone. Forza 8 looks good, but it's a racing game. Starfield premise is interesting, but it looks dated, looks like an advance Xbox 1X game from 2019.

[@wayn3h]

Even then a £34.99 PS1 game purchased in 1996 would be £64.18 now adjusted for inflation. Bearing in mind PS1 games were made by teams of between 1 and 50 people in a very short turnaround and publishing/disk production costs were notoriously low on PlayStation. Now games are made by teams of hundreds over the course of 3-5 years. I'm not sure a £70 price tag is wholly unreasonable considering. I say this as someone who buys very few AAA games because I tend to no longer enjoy the experience they offer.

[@TheLegendOf43]

Heres the thing though: pushing out unfinished products with a promise it will get fixed later is just unacceptable in general.

[@outphase78]

59:20 I miss those event moments too. They are going away but the most recent moment was when GoW Ragnarok released. I stood outside and other gamers were excited too. Reminded me of MW2 (2009) release day.

[@KrytopsyX]

The 4% thing is funny. 😂 I would not want to see a world where Microsoft impose their bad expertise on all products or consoles available to consumers, I can't trust them for making hardwares or softwares that meet my standards. Keep up the good work DF team! ❤

[@TheNamesJER]

1:04:05 - those fake KZbin thumbnails were too good! 😂

[@dariusdaingurse]

Those thumbnails of Rich were amazing 😂

[@MentatOfDune]

I like the idea of the 'fake KZbin thumbs'. It reminds me of the very similar images of the guys in Zzap64 beside their reviews back in the late 80's. I think they did KZbin thumbnails decades before KZbin existed.

[@pferreira1983]

The Christopher Judge speech was hilarious! 😂

[@KhromTX]

55:00 The $60 game price standard was around long before Xbox 360, games were $60 even in the 90's with the N64

[@antivanti9805]

Enhanced AA techniques should be standardized and included in the APIs like DirectX and Vulkan. They use the same type of input data so should be doable

[@antivanti9805]

Wasn't XeSS built specifically to be able to be an open standard where different vendords can provide their own custom solution in the back end? Microsoft should step in and standardize that in DX12 just like they did with DXR after RTX came around. That would push Vulkan to hopefully do the same

[@tloz171nfs]

I think there's some weird choices in the Forspoken demo. Like, defaulting to easy difficulty and requiring circle to be held down to use parkour (changing to toggle does wonders especially just running around the open-world). I loved the combat and using movement to engage and disengage with the bigger enemies and mobs.

[@sator_project]

Moving forward, I suspect Fromsoft will make a real effort to improve their PC stability given the success of Elden Ring . . . but Armored Core was developed in parallel with Elden Ring, so good luck with that tech review

[@BrotherKnowledge.]

People really do downplay how quickly digital copies of games go on sale. It's not just the physical games that do so. Case in point: Just 8 months after the release of Horizon Forbidden West, I was able to get a digital copy if that game, for the PS5, for a few cents less than $40.00 from Eneba. (And a month after that, it went on sale for $40.00 on the PSN store itself.) I own a Digital PS5. (And though my Xbox Series X does have a disc drive, I am digital-only over there as well.) Digital deals are far more frequent and cheap than a lot of people give it credit for.

[@yomamasohot6411]

No matter how often digital libraries go on sale they cannot be as frequent and as deep as the physical ones and there is a purely logical reason for it. 1) You become wholely dependent on one Seller so there's no competition for your money. 2) Physical retailers tend to put games on deep sale just to clear out any inventory so they can use the valuable shelf space for something else.

[@BrotherKnowledge.]

@@yomamasohot6411 My experience doesn't support your claims. Neither does my purchases. You're free to believe whatever it is you want to believe - that's on you - but you can't convince me that my own experiences are false. That's just not going to happen. 🤷🏾‍♂️ And digital games can be bought from multiple storefronts as well. Not just one. So that part of your statement is wholly false.

[@yomamasohot6411]

@Iskinder Bucari how can it? What you've got is called selection bias. Also, have you ever bought a game on Epic Games Store and tried returning it on Steam?

[@BrotherKnowledge.]

@@yomamasohot6411 How can what? "What you've got is called selection bias." - No. What I've got is called *evidence.* With sense and logic to go along with it. 😂😂 "Also, have you ever bought a game on Epic Games Store and tried returning it on Steam?" - That is illogical. I wouldn't do something that doesn't make sense. Why would you try something so silly? Besides... I don't buy games that I don't intend on keeping. If it's not worth keeping, I won't buy it and I won't play it. This tactic helps me keep my backlog from further ballooning into something unmanageable. Is my backlog still pretty large? Yes. Yes, it is. But it is manageable. Least that's what I tell myself still. 🤣🤣

[@eSKAone-]

They could have patched this into Callisto pre-launch but this way they now got extra free coverage on one of the most viewed gaming related KZbin channels. Well played

[@sellingacoerwa8318]

sure bro, a masterstroke to get good press son

[@johnboylan3832]

Yeah, genius. Just tarnish your first impression and your reputation so you can repent to a tiny number of people a fortnight later.

[@neonix01]

It's true that games have cost $60 for a long time, and that a price increase might be overdue. But please remember, that those $60 games in the Xbox360, PS3, PS2, etc. era was COMPLETE games - no paid for DLC's, no season passes, no content locked behind deluxe and ultimate editions, oh, and most games shipped in a finished and mostly bug-free state! The $60 price tag of then cannot be compared to the $60 price tag of today, with all this content being locked behind paywalls. It's fine to increase the base purchase price of games, but then give us all the content, and stop with all this paid DLC's, season passes, cosmetics, and all this nonsense.

[@xiaolinstyle]

THANK YOU. This idea that games have not gone up in price is just fucking ridiculous and frankly just corpo propaganda. Games have been monetized all to hell. Profit is at an all time high and CEO compensation is too. These companies are GREEDY AF and blaming "dev costs" is just ignoring reality.

[@kirion111]

Hidetaka Miyazaki is gonna give the GOTY award to himself next year 😆

[@hideff4982]

I play The Callisto Protocol at 5760x3240 with DLDSR on the 5800X3D + RTX4090 with DLSS quality and everything maxed out + RT but without raytraced shadows and it still can be CPU limited in some areas where my 4090 suddenly drops to like 85% GPU usage or even less. Really really poor CPU optimization in this game.

[@anabang1251]

What‘s this resolution for? Seems off-standard

[@_Chris390]

Also TCP, correct me if I’m wrong, was the only TGA game with two trailers / commercials. Make of that what you will but to me it says commercial desperation / damage control / garbage game.

[@transtechgirl8786]

Highlight of my weekend and yes please do a DF After Dark on Stargate/Star Trek/Battlestar etc.

[@mechanicalmonk2020]

I would watch the shit out of that

[@2klogic]

I've always game-shared on PlayStation games, which I know is probably frowned upon from Sony but it saves you 50% on the initial price tag immediately at launch. No way to do that on PC cuz game-share on PC makes it so you both can't play that game at the same time which really defeats most of the purpose. A price increase on PC would probably make me wanna buy games EVEN less than before.

[@jonRock]

🤣🤣🤣 that music in his speech. I thought that was planned or something to make his speech more epic. It was just a hint to get off of the stage? I'm dying of laughter.

[@juanvsreviews]

Most award shows are so boring though. I think having trailers and al this stuff makes it waaaaay more interesting

[@via_negativa6183]

The tekken trailer was kinda wierd think It's still very much wip, the original story teaser they showed a couple of months back looked far more impressive and was definitely in game.

[@Jereb343]

Cyberpunk is the only published game ive played that could fool me into thinking its an offline CG render. The material and texture quality heavily rely on RT reflections and once theyre on it competes with the games actual CG trailer which is crazy

[@craig71686]

I played through Metro Exodus EE with my 6700XT using RSR. It didn't look bad and I was able to get good frame rates. Even though RSR isn't as good as FSR, it is still a viable upscaling technology. A lot of people point out games only having DLSS but never mention trying RSR.

[@jonRock]

I played through Metro Exodus EE with RSR as well, but I used a greatly overclocked 6900XT. The performance was actually really good.

[@craig71686]

@@jonRock yeah. RSR is definitely a good substitute for AMD cards.

[@jonRock]

@@craig71686 It works with custom resolutions as well! I made a 1260p resolution and used RSR to scale to 1440p. It looked very good at that rendering resolution.

[@MentokTheMindTaker]

Glad to hear Digital Foundry have an actual realistic and reasonable take on game prices. It's absurd to expect games to constantly get better and more expensive to make, without the price changing at all, especially considering inflation

[@discodan2265]

Looking forward to your Portal RTX review Alex. The dev menu looks a lot like reshade.

[@aaronaton]

Its good to see Alex not in tears (literally) over a game he was reviewing on his 4090 this week. Oh the suffering.....

[@TheDarkestPhoenix]

60 dollar games were the reason I didn't usually buy AAA games day 1. And now at 70 it's going to be worse because I refuse to buy games at 70. There is a glut of good to great games at far less than that. Also on the Nintendo topic, they went up a generation later than Microsoft/Sony did, AKA Wii U rather than the Wii era.

[@DarshUK1]

I wish I could find someone who looks at me the way that Rich looks in this thumbnail

[@Rebel_at_Heart]

Hahaha... This mention about judas was truly hilarious hahha! :))) Regards guys! :)

[@counterstriker3971]

That $70 price tag is for ppl that have a much higher degree of petulance, than they have patience. For instance the new Sonic game has already gone on sale for nearly $20 off.

[@kieran.grant_]

55:25 Don't mind me, just leaving a bookmark

[@Kriv]

Justifying the price hike by John is the first time I have disagreed with DFs opinion. They make excessive profits off games, they can easily hold the price by stop paying Phil and Bobby stupidly high bonuses!

[@artvandalleigh7894]

I disagree with John or any minimizing of the price raise because I don't think you need to be a cynic to see that this increase is hitting when Microsoft has first party games they can attempt to sell for $70 coming in the next few months.

[@EllipseGamer]

I wish I had £1 for everytime you guys said 'curious' 😂

[@AlecRozsa]

Remember when video games ran at 60fps

[@Orain88]

Nope, never paying $70 for any base game. I got a back catalog and a bit of patience. I'm not supporting increased corporate profit margins. Video games are profitable af. Prices did not need to go up. I call bs.

[@mitchp4303]

Theory on shader caching, higher ups wanted games to boot up right after installation. See game icon, click, game running. They wanted to eliminate customers having to wait to play, probably to increase engagement and give the illusion of instant gaming. The solution was on the fly shader caching. For consoles, no problems. But PC reveals the shortcomings of this approach.

[@chrisbullock6477]

What makes things worse in the video gaming medium is when people covet hardware over video games themselves and the past time.

[@SICK_O]

Are the 'added/ fixed' Xbox Series X ray traced reflections on Callisto still low res?