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Digital Foundry

Digital Foundry

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@JasonEvangelho
@JasonEvangelho Ай бұрын
Rich just casually mentioning he manually checked 5000 individual frames.
@jessetufano6748
@jessetufano6748 Ай бұрын
I thought the same lmao 😂
@focus_sk8-yd8nf
@focus_sk8-yd8nf Ай бұрын
I sensed a little more intesity in his eyes just as I started to doubt
@TerraWare
@TerraWare Ай бұрын
He's right about the frame generation part though. I have examined frame by frame generated frames and it looks just like that. I think it's going to be rough this game at launch.
@TerraWare
@TerraWare Ай бұрын
@@JasonEvangelho What do you mean? You can run the game at 100% resolution scale and choose FSR, TSR, XeSS or DLSS as the anti-alisaing method or upscaling if you lower the resolution scale.
@NPC_Rey
@NPC_Rey Ай бұрын
Like he said that like it was light work!!! My jaw almost dropped. You got it Rich! 🤯
@majdsaadems
@majdsaadems Ай бұрын
Alex is looking different this week
@Demmrir
@Demmrir Ай бұрын
Damnit, I was going to joke how different Alex looked after dyeing his hair.
@TheKingOfSpain
@TheKingOfSpain Ай бұрын
This a bespoke Alex crafted specifically for this week’s ep
@dangermouse1282
@dangermouse1282 Ай бұрын
He was only allowed to play console games for the past week
@fazares
@fazares Ай бұрын
😂
@MrCheesegr8r
@MrCheesegr8r Ай бұрын
It's the glasses
@alvinlu1
@alvinlu1 Ай бұрын
4500 frames. manually. rich. the man. the myth. the legend.
@sheepsteak
@sheepsteak Ай бұрын
37:20 John starts falling asleep 😀
@shashi27100
@shashi27100 22 күн бұрын
dayaaamn!
@kohlmannj
@kohlmannj Ай бұрын
So glad to see Jam and Ronald again, just like every week
@Ghost-pb4ts
@Ghost-pb4ts Ай бұрын
Actually They're sam and donald
@emiami458
@emiami458 Ай бұрын
That was a really funny and odd name joke that was glossed over bu ther two
@rolithesecond
@rolithesecond Ай бұрын
My weekly schedule has just been turned on its head
@Green_Ninja325
@Green_Ninja325 Ай бұрын
Had to double check what day it was and make sure I wasn't late for work
@goob8945
@goob8945 Ай бұрын
Unprecedented shifts in our routine
@TheWolfSharp
@TheWolfSharp Ай бұрын
Same thing, I was like wtf is it monday?!?
@Appleloucious
@Appleloucious Ай бұрын
Yes always confusing when tje DF Direct is uploaded on a Sunday xD
@suly3243
@suly3243 Ай бұрын
@@Green_Ninja325”wait, did I come to work on my off day?” Was my first thought lol
@Zendien
@Zendien Ай бұрын
I can imagine the reason for gamepass not being popular on PC is because people have learned what the subscription model means. Monthly fee that keeps going up and up and when you finally get tired of it all your games are gone. Personally I just use Steam and pick up most of my games on sales
@fcukugimmeausername
@fcukugimmeausername Ай бұрын
Yep. That's basically what happened to my XSX. I had Gamepass Ultimate for a good few years, then turned it off and realised 90% of my games were reliant on a current subscription. I only played one or two of those games regularly and renewing my subscription easily meant I would pay much more than I would have for those games instead of just buying them outright.
@Cloysterpete
@Cloysterpete Ай бұрын
I'm stacked up for another three years so I’ll have had nearly ten years of awesome game rental for close to zero money, so it’s been fantastic for me!. It’ll be £20 a month by the time my subscription runs out, at that point it’ll be cheaper for me to just buy what I want to play in a sale, I'm extremely slow at actually playing through games.
@cheungchingtong
@cheungchingtong Ай бұрын
That footage was originally released by Playstation China on Bilibili, not IGN China, don't know why it was not the Playstation but IGNCN to post that footage here on YT, so I guess IGNCN forward that video from Bilibili to KZbin, and here is the thing, Bilibili has poor compression on 4k video, much worse than KZbin, if you think the video quality is bad because of the compression, maybe it is. But no one really knows, guess we will wait for GS to release some more PS5 gameplays themselves then.
@_CrimsonBlade
@_CrimsonBlade Ай бұрын
Yes china they can be trusted and definitely arent biased
@anabang1251
@anabang1251 Ай бұрын
@@_CrimsonBlade Please keep your „China bad“ yapping on mute, thank you
@julianorozaa
@julianorozaa Ай бұрын
@@_CrimsonBladewhat a random comment to make about KZbin video lol
@FFFFPPPP
@FFFFPPPP Ай бұрын
@@anabang1251China bad. Yap yap.
@wolliebolly
@wolliebolly Ай бұрын
@@_CrimsonBlade Same can be said about US....
@MrJamesDiamond
@MrJamesDiamond Ай бұрын
Just flew back to Australia from being overseas, and now DF out a day early. I don’t even know what month we’re in at this point.
@jayblaze53
@jayblaze53 Ай бұрын
John dozing off is just so funny.
@mustermann58
@mustermann58 Ай бұрын
As a Linux user I can confirm that pre-compiled shader distribution works in the valve ecosystem on the desktop for non Steam Deck devices. In the Linux build of steam is a toggle to enable shader pre-caching and sharing with others. So it's a crowd sourced effort similar to steam input configs but without user interaction. You can additionally decide if you want to enable "background processing" similar to downloads during gameplay.
@Yobleck
@Yobleck Ай бұрын
Doesn't it rely on some kind of DX12 to Vulkan translation thing?
@TheShitpostExperience
@TheShitpostExperience Ай бұрын
@@Yobleck Yes but generally there's no performance loss. If anything some benchmarks show better performance on linux due to lower OS overhead. That said it's a game to game thing, some games may perform better on windows, some on linux, it all depends on how resources are allocated to the system, but for the most part you can expect same performance at least on linux.
@purebaldness
@purebaldness Ай бұрын
5:35 - "qualidy" 5:38 - "quality" 5:47 - "qualidy" 5:59 - "quality"
@KiranBalakumar
@KiranBalakumar Ай бұрын
same energy as GTX TI or GTX TI (tie)
@TheKingOfSpain
@TheKingOfSpain Ай бұрын
Schrodinger’s DLSS setting
@ericd.9038
@ericd.9038 Ай бұрын
This is the level of analysis I expect from DF fans👏🏻👏🏻
@ozzyg82
@ozzyg82 Ай бұрын
It’s so our American cousins can understand what Rich is saying.
@julianorozaa
@julianorozaa Ай бұрын
Lol
@matthouse99
@matthouse99 Ай бұрын
Regarding the admin account thing, it's more bizarre and a bit absurd imo. If I understood the HUB video correctly, it's apparently not enough to run with a local admin account (local account in the administrators group). AMD is saying you have to run with the SID 500 built-in admin account. This is ridiculous. I'm pretty knowledgeable on Windows (I can't know EVERYTHING though), and I've never heard of any difference between the SID 500 account vs running with a local admin account for something like this. Regardless, Steve GN addressed it well imo. He said they're ignoring AMD's advice about the admin account because they test all of the CPUs in the same way. It's no longer "apples to apples" if you're going to compare Zen 5 with PBO vs Zen 4 without, or if you're going to run as admin for Zen 5 but not Zen 4. He said they'd compare like for like and leave it at that. HUB said that running with the admin account also boosted performance for Zen 4, so that's still not going to help Zen 5 look better. This whole release is bizarre. Intel was already self-pwning themselves, and AMD managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
@AusOpening
@AusOpening Ай бұрын
Yeah best to avoid this gen altogether - especially if you play at 4K zen 5 makes absolutely no difference even compared to zen 3 bc of gpu bottleneck.
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 Ай бұрын
AMD never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity
@韩朴宇
@韩朴宇 Ай бұрын
The built-in Administrator account can't run any UWP programs by default. Just search User Account Control: Admin Approval Mode for the Built-in Administrator account
@donkeymoo1581
@donkeymoo1581 Ай бұрын
AMD watched some fps gain youtube videos that tell you to disable all security to get more fps and thought "hey that sounds cool lets say that for our new terrible cpus" Wish HUB never made that video. Even if they clearly state you should not use this it is an insane risk for minor performance gains you know full well thousands of people will still do it because as clear by fps guide online people will disregard absolutely every security feature in the world to get 1-5 fps more in a video game.
@mathburn1
@mathburn1 Ай бұрын
Never in my life have I seen a good quality IGN's game footage.
@mechanicalmonk2020
@mechanicalmonk2020 Ай бұрын
It wasn't recorded by IGN
@yomamasohot6411
@yomamasohot6411 Ай бұрын
​@@mechanicalmonk2020 t was by ign china
@tanmaypanadi1414
@tanmaypanadi1414 Ай бұрын
some one else commented it's billi billi footage posted by PS China. IGN reuploaded it to youtube​@@yomamasohot6411
@LeesChannel
@LeesChannel Ай бұрын
Rich's mic is a bit hot
@bab027
@bab027 Ай бұрын
Glad i’m not the only one who noticed!!
@MrCheesegr8r
@MrCheesegr8r Ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@djayjp
@djayjp Ай бұрын
Sibilant.
@LeesChannel
@LeesChannel Ай бұрын
@@djayjp I'm talking about gain, not sibilance
@existential_
@existential_ Ай бұрын
Not as hot as his sunburn
@GrooveSpaceArk
@GrooveSpaceArk Ай бұрын
I thought I'd missed work!
@koerel
@koerel Ай бұрын
Same here! Bit of a panic there for a split second 😂
@Dr-Zed
@Dr-Zed Ай бұрын
About Deadlock: There literally is a discord and forum for testers to leave feedback.
@wsjudd
@wsjudd Ай бұрын
Must have missed that!
@idaret.
@idaret. Ай бұрын
speaking about it, that discord has rule 6 "You are allowed to make youtube videos that are unlisted" so if df wants to do a video about deadlock and post it on the discord, that would be probably allowed
@shaw1484
@shaw1484 Ай бұрын
Great point Zed. Not just that though, valve asked players not to share info, it's not about a journalist reporting on it and "doing his job" as Rich and the team mentioned, this is valve specifically asking players not to talk about the game publicly. It doesn't matter how many concurrent players or how poorly kept the secret is. Valve asked not to share, to make an article about the game and specifically pointing out and flaunting the fact you read the message and chose to ignore it is just the icing on the idiot cake. Game is heavily in development with work in progress assets and so they don't want press coverage that could lead to negative thoughts about a game prior to release. Not much much really here to discuss. "Please don't share information about the game" a clear and easy to understand message, the journalist who reported on this is an idiot and as unlikely as it is, I hope other developers don't give the verge any behind the scenes stuff in the future. It shows a complete disregard of developer wishes, and a typical desperate act for clicks as is so very common with these terrible online publications. Verge has been a garbage fire of reporting and "journalism" for a long time, less we forget the time they showed everyone how to build a pc by doing every aspect of the build incorrectly prompting real pc builders to respond with their own videos showing how to actually do it properly. Would hope that DF team could do better in future rather than giving passes to fellow journalists for stupid behaviour.
@shaw1484
@shaw1484 Ай бұрын
​@wsjudd I wonder if misreporting on info about where and how to discuss the game is part of why valve has specifically asked people to not to talk about the game. If one journalist can't follow the rules and now digital foundry is now misreporting. It's almost like the press should just wait for valve to issue a press kit... hmmm...
@quinnd6
@quinnd6 22 күн бұрын
After hearing about Deadlock I'd have zero interest in it. Valve trying to make a big deal out of nothing. More multiplayer only garbage.
@tyo101
@tyo101 Ай бұрын
After the 'Nuts Dot Wad' triumphant video, we get a DF Weekly early, what a lovely day!
@acnash27
@acnash27 Ай бұрын
Wake up John! Looked like he was dozing off for second there during the Zen 5 segment lol
@thanksbetotap
@thanksbetotap Ай бұрын
Hearty thanks to Rich for that tedious manual frame analysis of Wukong! And oof, 30 fps interpolated to 60 fps by FSR 3 is going to be brutal for image quality and input latency.
@Nick-cs4oc
@Nick-cs4oc Ай бұрын
And you’re definitely gonna feel that in responsiveness. I’m hearing that Denuvo is in play, so I may give it a shot when I find a DRM free version 😉
@thanksbetotap
@thanksbetotap Ай бұрын
@@Nick-cs4oc You’re totally right. Added input latency to my original comment.
@Melontheyoutuber
@Melontheyoutuber Ай бұрын
That’s why I use my PC nearly exclusively now. My PS5 wasn’t used before or after Stellar Blade. Literally collecting dust.
@metv1221
@metv1221 Ай бұрын
​@JackoFrenchtonDoggo built pc rig Feb of last year because this crap is getting tiring... trickery or hiding actually what is... DF should not have to do this, for us to know what the game is... My console is basically going to be brand new even when next next-gen starts 🙃 😢😢😢
@борисрябушкин-з9н
@борисрябушкин-з9н Ай бұрын
In game will be native 60 fps. They show version with frame gen based on quality mode.
@billybased64
@billybased64 Ай бұрын
So many comments freaking out about the schedule change. Lmao
@fcukugimmeausername
@fcukugimmeausername Ай бұрын
Alex looking like a customised Hogwarts character today.
@Fulthrotle73
@Fulthrotle73 Ай бұрын
Let us get Bespoke.
@TheKingOfSpain
@TheKingOfSpain Ай бұрын
On earth as it is in the here and now. Amen 🙏
@shaunewilliams305
@shaunewilliams305 Ай бұрын
Fact is no reviewer has access to ps5 is a major red flag. Looks like a wait for me
@BlindTrustProject
@BlindTrustProject Ай бұрын
In 2014 we released a first person game called DeadCore. The original name during crowdfunding was Deadlock. Bandai Namco (our editor) made us drop the name because there was already a game from the late 90 called Deadlock, so we changed our name to DeadCore. I find amusing that now Valve would have a first person game named Deadlock ^^.
@adamadam6351
@adamadam6351 Ай бұрын
Interesting!
@hybridvigga
@hybridvigga Ай бұрын
That was ten years ago. If you don't use something for long enough your rights to it lapse, chances are since Namco haven't made a game called Deadlock since then, they just timed out on it. It's why Transformers re-use names for other, completely different Transformers from the past, it's to keep the copyright going for when they do re-releases or new versions of the old ones, if they leave it too long without using it again, they loose the name and somebody else can start using it, and put their own copyright on it that would stop Hasbro re-using it. Like Captain Marvel, who was bought by DC, then not used for a long time, and when Marvel saw that the copyright expired they introduced their own Captain Marvel, and DC weren't allowed to use the name anymore and started calling their one Shazam.
@BlindTrustProject
@BlindTrustProject Ай бұрын
@@hybridvigga Sorry I wasn't clear : Bandai namco was editing OUR game, so they feared kipping the name Deadlock was to risky and asked us to change it to DeadCore to avoid to have to deal with potential legal issues down the road. And they were right. Because the same week we released DeadCore, the old Deadlock game from 1996 (Deadlock : Planetary Conquest) was re-released on Steam... Talk about a coincidence. ;-)
@obiwanmedeiros4501
@obiwanmedeiros4501 Ай бұрын
1:06:30 Square's version of Unreal 4 is heavily modified and the team is used and expect those changes to work on the third installment. Moving to UE5 would mean they would need to port all of their custom tech to the new engine version, this is a huge daunting task that should not be underestimated.
@AdnanAhmed
@AdnanAhmed Ай бұрын
Damn Deadlock hurt John personally? 😂
@mechanicalmonk2020
@mechanicalmonk2020 Ай бұрын
Rich being so done of John's shit around the master system comment was amazing. Reminds me of how my colleagues react to my jokes
@leeroy1986
@leeroy1986 Ай бұрын
On XBox, I think it'll be around the next generation past 2028, but the generation after, I can see them abandoning that and going all in with Cloud.
@bab027
@bab027 Ай бұрын
Rich, your audio this week’s a little off. Bitrate seems to be lower😢
@goob8945
@goob8945 Ай бұрын
He’s going for the LoFi crowd
@roz1281
@roz1281 Ай бұрын
Rich's s's kill me when on max volume phone speaker 😅
@fftisgoatk109
@fftisgoatk109 Ай бұрын
Evidently, a ‘bespoke’ solution is required.
@Die-Coughman
@Die-Coughman Ай бұрын
56:28 I assume they specifically don't want the press to write or share anything about it because they want untainted player feedback. Think of how loud minorities often signal boost their favorite creator's opinions in online spaces. They want organic opinions and discussions among the community rather than having people rally with their favorite creators.
@damianabregba7476
@damianabregba7476 Ай бұрын
They want to reduce the effect of ,,influencers" and how their arbitrary opinions and even manipulations are absorbed by others. As you said, taints their first impression which is the most important impression. Not only that, but it gives the message, that they want to work with players and not just media in the form of extended marketing. Makes it feel more honest.
@SliceofKris
@SliceofKris Ай бұрын
I had a guy join a match without trying tutorial or any attempts to learn the game then just complained the entire match he didn't understand and just repeated talking point he thinks popular influencers say it is.
@xdplayah
@xdplayah Ай бұрын
casuals think they know everything like they are some kind of special people lol​@@SliceofKris
@InfiniteDarkMass
@InfiniteDarkMass Ай бұрын
In the video they kept coming up with excuses like "you can just type it in search" and "the guy ignoring a polite request is just doing his job", but I wouldn't know about Deadlock if it wasn't for that guy. Never even heard the name. And I'm the guy that consumes gaming content daily, so you can bet there's many more people out there that didn't know about it. One of the few things I dislike about DF is how they always seem to avoid topics and opinions that could upset big publishers, developers or media. Like when someone publishes a barely working turd for people to buy and the video on it sounds like a guide for "baby's first PC port". People that don't know what an FOV slider is should not be working on those and don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.
@nik12937
@nik12937 Ай бұрын
58:30 I doubt Valve is actually intending to curtail the spread of information for Deadlock. It seems more like a marketing strategy, and considering how many people I've encountered discussing it, I'd say it's working.
@ozzy6361
@ozzy6361 Ай бұрын
Wukong optimization is 🐶 💩 on PS5
@tomsawyer8218
@tomsawyer8218 Ай бұрын
PC has a few issues as well. probably best to wait for some optimization patches before purchase, regardless of platform.
@spenny2cents
@spenny2cents Ай бұрын
Has there ever been a Chinese made game with great optimization and performance out of the box?
@Rabbitlord108
@Rabbitlord108 Ай бұрын
Why is this coming out on Sunday instead of Monday like usual?
@Gravy1255
@Gravy1255 Ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I imagine it's an accidental public upload or they have a "special" one coming up.
@rickysargulesh1053
@rickysargulesh1053 Ай бұрын
As a treat
@tayjn
@tayjn Ай бұрын
Embargoed content tomorrow most likely, DF weekly usually comes out early when that happens
@Chasm9
@Chasm9 Ай бұрын
Because Black Myth Wukong comes out tomorrow when this Direct might come across as either prophetic (the frame gen performance mode in BMWK) or out of date and incorrect. Either way, it's a good decision.
@aquaneon8012
@aquaneon8012 Ай бұрын
at first I thought I lost track of the days.
@luca4870
@luca4870 Ай бұрын
john talking about how deadlock doesn't look appealing when the graphics and ui are all placeholder, this is exactly why valve doesn't want people to share deadlock footage.
@DuckAlertBeats
@DuckAlertBeats Ай бұрын
It just looks like another one of 'those' games though doesn't it
@Nick-cs4oc
@Nick-cs4oc Ай бұрын
Sure mate, 22k people playing? And they’re showing placeholders? Uhuh seems like a Valve problem at the least
@FlipFlopGod
@FlipFlopGod Ай бұрын
Idk they had a lot of people on the play test and the game should nearly be done with how long they been working out it. I love valve, but I feel like this game is going to miss… Problems keep popping up
@dtoodlez513
@dtoodlez513 Ай бұрын
@@FlipFlopGodgame is great.
@FlipFlopGod
@FlipFlopGod Ай бұрын
@@dtoodlez513 it’s really not. People are just saying that because it’s valve. Sorry
@frodox10
@frodox10 20 күн бұрын
Someone hand John a coffee before these podcasts start, seems like hes falling asleep anytime someone else is talking.
@sneakingelephant
@sneakingelephant Ай бұрын
As someone who has been gaming on the series X primarily since it came out and only recently switching to PC gamepass, I think the biggest issue that is preventing gamepass growth on PC is the terrible UI. On PC you are competing against so many other launchers(the biggest being Steam obviously) as well as competing against a lot of cheap and free games. The gamepass value proposition has to be a little bit higher on PC. I don’t mean that it needs to have more games but potentially a focus on making the service more user friendly and provide better discovery
@zeikjt
@zeikjt Ай бұрын
57:10 steam has discussion forums for every game, I would imagine that's where Valve wants you to discuss the game with other people who also have access to it.
@jarrodjob
@jarrodjob Ай бұрын
1:34:49 - RÖG pronunciation never gets old. I chuckle every time. Never stop.
@MrMattMagoo
@MrMattMagoo Ай бұрын
JaysTwoCents just recently did a great video on the multiple CCD and core parking settings and fixes. I think there are some great answers in there for you.
@Wolverine3196
@Wolverine3196 Ай бұрын
57:00 there is infact a discord and a forum hosted by Valve and listed within the game
@soulsbourne
@soulsbourne Ай бұрын
Apparently they reused the zen 2 microcode ( apparently it was rushed) so there's latency where ot should have none... Hopefully an update can fix that
@DanielHaywood
@DanielHaywood Ай бұрын
Love John's perspective of the value of Xbox to someone who owns a 4090. Microsoft and Sony are both moving away from permanent exclusivity and if you've invested thousands into PC then sure, not much of a value proposition to also get a console, and I hear this perspective a LOT online. But many people aren't going to own a 4090 and these consoles are a good value proposition as an alternative platform for the latest games.
@harrifongostudios
@harrifongostudios Ай бұрын
John making his master system joke and getting crickets and laughing at his own joke making Richard passively annoyed was great.
@TerraWare
@TerraWare Ай бұрын
Valve bringing their OS to other handhelds is great news. It's the perfect opportunity because Windows in handheld sucks, why not capitalize on it and make Linux based OS even more popular.
@stefancvetincanin2710
@stefancvetincanin2710 Ай бұрын
Alex is looking weird on the thumbnail.
@marcw3852
@marcw3852 Ай бұрын
The paraphrase one question... 'whats the point of Xbox when I can play game pass on a 4090' is one of the daftest questions asked of DF in a while. Not everyone wants or needs an expensive gaming rig, simple as that
@tomsawyer8218
@tomsawyer8218 Ай бұрын
Indeed. I like cross saves on xbox because I can pick up later on my laptop. Also gaming on a couch in front of a tv is still a thing.
@spenny2cents
@spenny2cents Ай бұрын
Obviously when people make that statement they are speaking from a personal perspective. For example, I have a great gaming rig that will outlast the PS5 Pro at this rate, what would incentivize me to buy 3rd party games on Playstation if they will run better on my rig? Same applies to Xbox gamers who have a great PC, no need for an Xbox.
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 Ай бұрын
I love the Will, Jam, and Ronald show
@mondodimotori
@mondodimotori Ай бұрын
23:00 why should you be excited about those? High core counts CPUs are not the best solution for games. You would still prefer faster cores than number of cores, and of course the amount of cache. That's why the 5800X3D still shows very high up in Gamers Nexus benchmarks. I'm one of those excited about the 9900x and 9950x just because I work in rendering, and still rely a lot on CPU rendering. The more cores I have the merrier. And we saw increases in performances in those applications. If you want to just play games, either get a 7800X3D or wait for new 9000 X3D CPUs.
@James-gj8rn
@James-gj8rn Ай бұрын
No transparency about the PS5 version of Black Myth Wukong doesn't sit right with me, i'm going to wait for reviews on this one (i don't want to risk playing on PC after i saw about bad optimisation)
@originalityisdead.9513
@originalityisdead.9513 Ай бұрын
IGN China has PS5 gameplay. The game is using UE5, so i wouldn't expect it to look crisp and clear as no UE5 games do on console.
@CheesyX2
@CheesyX2 Ай бұрын
It runs just fine on pc, at least the benchmark tool. Everything maxed out (Cinematic) including Full Ray-Tracing on Max, 3440x1440p Resolution. I get 73-105 fps with Frame Generation and about half that without it. Without Ray-Tracing it's running at a locked 144fps (limit of my monitor) with Frame-Generation and 80-110fps without. Not bad at all considering it's all maxed out and is the first UE5 title that pushes the engine. You can drop the settings down to ultra (which look identical in the benchmark run) or even high to gain even more fps. Dropping from cinematic to ultra gains you an additional 10-20fps. Given that this game is not even out yet, it (at least the benchmark) performs better than most games released the last 2 years especially given what's on display. Tested it yesterday on a 4070 Ti Super paired with a 7950X3D and 64GB of RAM, yes it is quite a powerful system but again you still have the option to turn down settings and even on lowest settings at least the benchmark scenes still look very very good. I don't know what people are doing with their systems that they are that bogged down in performance. After my benchmark run i stumbled upon a video from Vex and with almost the exact configuration (apart from his CPU being a 7800X3D) and the same settings he got almost half the fps that i got.
@ThatGuyXX7
@ThatGuyXX7 Ай бұрын
After Cyberpunk hiding last gen console version, I don't blame you.
@James-gj8rn
@James-gj8rn Ай бұрын
@@ThatGuyXX7 Publishers think we won't be wise to this stuff
@paul1979uk2000
@paul1979uk2000 Ай бұрын
I usually find when publishers are quiet on any given platform, it doesn't bold well for the game on that platform, because usually, if the game is running great, they would be singing from the rooftop about it. In any case, we'll find out soon enough. As for me, I personally always play games on the PC, but I rarely play games on release because of the state so many games run in, but once I get around to buying, they usually run really well, I found that out with Batman Arkham Knight that ran like dog shit on release, but when I got around to playing, thanks to the freebie from Epic, the game ran like a dream that I was surprised how smooth it actually ran with all the negatives it got on release. The moral of that little story is that it pays to wait it out, not only do you get a game that runs better with better performance and less issues, but you also get the game cheaper, and this is probably why I rarely have issues with games on PC, because I play them well after release when they run a lot better, whereas the ones buying on release are really getting a raw deal, paying more for a worse product, and not just on PC, even consoles we are seeing a lot more issues on many games on release.
@Symovik
@Symovik Ай бұрын
Tom Warren has already denied it's Forza Horizon 5.
@BUPMY1
@BUPMY1 Ай бұрын
Is that really a good choice to put on PS5?
@dln.sweeney
@dln.sweeney Ай бұрын
@@BUPMY1 I think so. Sony has GT but the Horizon games are pretty far removed from GT7 and Forza Motorsport as far as glossy, big budget racing games go. It's by far and away the best open world racing franchise at the moment and would likely sell really well.
@BUPMY1
@BUPMY1 Ай бұрын
@@dln.sweeney I think MSoft is thinking that PS players can just play The Crew series from Ubisoft for their open world arcade racing fix.
@BurritoKingdom
@BurritoKingdom Ай бұрын
I think Halo, Gears and Forza are the untouchables. Everything from every dev/publisher since they bought from 2017 onwards is fair game to be ported to everything. My guess is Starfield, it costs $200 million to make and it didn't sell well enough on Xbox to recoup the costs.
@Symovik
@Symovik Ай бұрын
@@BurritoKingdom Tom Warren replied on X that it's not FH5, Halo, Gears or Starfield.
@Kysen10
@Kysen10 Ай бұрын
I panicked and thought i somehow slept through monday.
@AndyGilleand
@AndyGilleand Ай бұрын
The way Rich said they "can't exactly comment on" whether Forza is coming to PS5 makes it sound like he definitely knows lol Usually when it's about something they don't know, he just asks everyone's opinion
@IcePakOG
@IcePakOG Ай бұрын
Is Future Rich the ultimate form of Digital Foundry?
@PookaBot
@PookaBot Ай бұрын
John's description of Deadlock's gameplay could be of just about any game? You point and the numbers go down?
@powerfulaura5166
@powerfulaura5166 Ай бұрын
1:38:05 if they don't care about their end-user freedom/liberty, then sure. GNU/Linux is free/libre & open-source software (F/LOSS) the user can control & doesn't have built-in spyware like Microsoft Windows & other closed-source proprietary operating systems, everyone should aspire to make the switch to it at some point.
@tiptester
@tiptester Ай бұрын
Thought I'd just mugged off an entire mondays worth of work. Thanks for that.
@1324Potato
@1324Potato Ай бұрын
TF2 is not what John's describing
@Robx4k
@Robx4k Ай бұрын
It would behove Microsoft to be transparent. In the here and now, which would be rather compelling
@benbaer3525
@benbaer3525 Ай бұрын
Who else waited till Monday to watch this😊?
@iPlaySEGA
@iPlaySEGA Ай бұрын
Good timing DF! My Lunch is ready! 😂
@MultiRacz
@MultiRacz Ай бұрын
For some time now whenever i hear "technically feasible", I see a flash of Mr. Linneman in my mind, and I feel like that is just not healthy anymore.
@charoleawood
@charoleawood Ай бұрын
Jam and Ronald are the best!
@PositionOffsetGaming
@PositionOffsetGaming 26 күн бұрын
59:38 John, this is exactly why I play Fortnite in solo mode. I don't have to talk to anybody. But I am kind of surprised at your aversion to cartoon graphics across the board here. I've seen you praise lots of cartoony stuff that aren't shooters
@JadenHybrid
@JadenHybrid Ай бұрын
The fact that Forza Horizon 5 has not gotten any significant sale or price drop because its inevitable typical server shutdown would lead to releasing somewhere else.
@galvesribeiro
@galvesribeiro Ай бұрын
For the 444 dude, the amount of time and money he spent could be easier to write a controller in a raspberry PI and make it switch the correct matrix. Those all have controller ports thru serial or I2C. He did it the jenkiest way possible :D
@mbsfaridi
@mbsfaridi Ай бұрын
He wanted the world record and in the future will be a museum.
@suriyarn4013
@suriyarn4013 Ай бұрын
5:25 5000 frames by eye! 🔥🔥
@tyrus1235
@tyrus1235 Ай бұрын
In regards to that last question, when I got my first PS3 in 2008 I only had a 14 inches CRT on my bedroom. Needless to say, games ran buttery smooth for my young teenage self's eyes! Played a ton of Far Cry 2, Call of Duty MW2 (and others after it), Resistance 2, Uncharted 2 and 3, Killzone 2 and 3... Even played split-screen CoD with my friends after school!
@SAUCEyou
@SAUCEyou Ай бұрын
nothing regarding stalker 2? 🥺😔
@spenny2cents
@spenny2cents Ай бұрын
Stalker who!? 😢
@hastesoldat
@hastesoldat Ай бұрын
Why is there always so many segments on how microsoft is shifting its strategy towards multiplatform and publishing. I feel like I already heard you guys discuss this a 100 times at this point. Don't want to be rude but it's becoming pretty boring. I know I can skip but still I felt like giving this feedback because it really sticked out to me.
@AvocadoDesperado_
@AvocadoDesperado_ Ай бұрын
Kinda looks like the console versions aren’t going to look as good as what we’ve seen so far.
@SOTVT
@SOTVT Ай бұрын
Of course not🤷‍♂️
@BUPMY1
@BUPMY1 Ай бұрын
Did you change your purchase decision?
@coliander4180
@coliander4180 Ай бұрын
They're console versions, what were you expecting?!
@ProblematicSloth666
@ProblematicSloth666 Ай бұрын
@@coliander4180virgin lol
@RonniSchmidt-mi7pd
@RonniSchmidt-mi7pd Ай бұрын
​@@BUPMY1he has no PS5
@colossusrageblack
@colossusrageblack Ай бұрын
Anyone else feel like John is that insufferable nerd from college. He's always right, and no one can challenge him. Interrupts everyone.
@cargorunner9960
@cargorunner9960 Ай бұрын
Why do you say that xbox is only going to release a high end console and a hand held? Handhelds are usually a generation behind. DF have stated that a handheld series S is not an easy machine to make. If more series S consoles are sold than series X it seems dumb to abandon a next generation series S. To me it seems sensible for xbox to release a next gen series S and X. And to also have an independant handheld line that has a completely separate release schedule. And separate certification process. I think gaming generations are now dictated by game engine releases not hardware releases. This why the current generation has been totally underwhelming. We were still on unreal engine 4 until very recently
@GosetsuDaito
@GosetsuDaito Ай бұрын
John with a beard is so PEGI 18 and I'm lovin' it!
@mazziecat
@mazziecat 29 күн бұрын
Deadlock looks nothing like Fortnite. John is so clueless
@photonboy999
@photonboy999 Ай бұрын
*R9-9900x/9950x performance issues...* BUT... I'm pretty sure they work better on LINUX. If that's the case, it's an OS software issue, not something you need a BIOS update (microcode in CPU update) to fix. I guess the Linux info came out after you guys made this video. There may also be multiple issues. Also, it's worth noting AMD has said that the architectural changes will benefit FUTURE software changes.
@Nick-cs4oc
@Nick-cs4oc Ай бұрын
It seems like if Valve actually wanted to keep it secret then they went about it in the worst way possible. Like if EA did the same thing the rhetoric would be completely different (not that it would be fair then either)
@TTSAudiobooks
@TTSAudiobooks Ай бұрын
I really like your videos guys, thanks for making these for us :) what would make this one specifically more pleasant was if John would wait for his turn to speak, since jumping into you guys' commentaries made this sound a bit too hard for the ear
@davidmichaeljennings
@davidmichaeljennings Ай бұрын
I will be interested to see what specs the Frankenstien ps5 pro pc will be, particularly the gpu.
@deepblue8143
@deepblue8143 Ай бұрын
Oh wow, it looks like I've been treated to an early birthday present! Thank you DF, its great waking up to this!
@masterbenjamin3348
@masterbenjamin3348 Ай бұрын
miss the time in the game had native resolutions without fsr dlss fg etc. just a pure picture
@thisisblain
@thisisblain Ай бұрын
Christmas came early boys.
@Razzbow
@Razzbow Ай бұрын
57:00 there is an official discord for testers.
@FBuilding
@FBuilding Ай бұрын
Episode dropping early, but then there's future Rich time traveling to the past in it. This is too much time juggling for my brain. We're just missing VanDamme's bare buttocks.
@Demmortal
@Demmortal Ай бұрын
FSR looks alot better then TSR in this game, u need to check again
@BarryMagikarp
@BarryMagikarp Ай бұрын
Pre compiled shaders are a linux/proton thing in general on steam, just the compilation happens at game launch rather than a download.
@Gkhn32
@Gkhn32 Ай бұрын
I am glad that Richard mentioned "over-sharpened" look of the base picture. Actually, DLSS looks even worse because of the clarity or maybe double sharpening (dlss+ue5). It looks like a sharpy effect we have seen on Lords of the Fallen and the early days of Witcher 3 with High Sharpening setting. It looks awful. We were able to defeat it in Robocop by tweaking the ue5 engine.ini settings. I hope it is the case here. Because with lords of the fallen, it didn't work. The game looks awful and somewhat fake-cartoonish (it is difficult to put out) with that excessive sharpening.
@lancealex382
@lancealex382 Ай бұрын
review code already out for black myth, reviews are in! suprised eurogamer or df dont have this when ign have reviewed it
@spenny2cents
@spenny2cents Ай бұрын
Reviews are In!? A whole day or two before release wowzers what a tremendous feat from the developers
@mrwalker6026
@mrwalker6026 Ай бұрын
Looks like its using FSR to upscale from sub 1080p and artefacting seen in games like Jedi Survivor..
@ajayvailaya2091
@ajayvailaya2091 Ай бұрын
Alex was rendered using FSR2 this week
@fractalsauce
@fractalsauce Ай бұрын
Good lord this just scared the shit out of me! I thought I was 5 hours late for work!
@GameTechLead
@GameTechLead Ай бұрын
Normally I would agree that TSR does a better job than FSR but not in this benchmark. FSR does have problems when alpha tested objects are dis-occluded but other than that it's far more stable than TSR and gives more detail. I'm saying this after comparing both at 1440p and 67% upscaling.
@Dr.RojoMcDelly
@Dr.RojoMcDelly Ай бұрын
Shiny Alex ?
@metalhead2550
@metalhead2550 Ай бұрын
Might as not bother with the Switch 2 now, hardware is multiple generations out of date now
@dabuski1
@dabuski1 Ай бұрын
Hi John...have you tried the PC adapter for PSVR2 yet?
@sasquatchsenpai
@sasquatchsenpai Ай бұрын
AMD had the chance to take over the market with Intel shitting their pants infinite times. They said "nah we gonna join the shit show." WOW
@Hazmatt36000
@Hazmatt36000 Ай бұрын
It’s funny that anyone playing wu kong on console will never know just how amazing graphics can be when all the best features are turned off or down. Hope they have a friend with a PC so they can see in person the way it was really built.
@Phiidyn
@Phiidyn 25 күн бұрын
I believe this "awkwardness" surrounding the direction of Xbox is a symptom of an internal struggle with leadership at Microsoft. I'd believe that even they aren't able to agree on which path to take forward and that indecision/infighting is something consumers are picking up on right now, manifesting itself as confusion from the loss of brand identity.
@soulshinobi
@soulshinobi Ай бұрын
There's nothing "odd" going on with Zen 5 beyond them simply not being done yet with developing the product. Was much more hopeful for them, considering Intel cannibalizing its reputation, but "AMD never misses and opportunity to miss an opportunity."
@sconathon
@sconathon Ай бұрын
valve banning the verge guy is just a funny way to drum up more press
This issue is plaguing modern gaming graphics
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